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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
loneskipper3 said:Just take a look at the comments and see how many likes each one is pulling. I honestly don't get why these people are so desperate to join the European Union—and more importantly, why on earth should we be expected to support them in doing so?

It’s the exact same story here in the States; they’re just sitting around pinning all their hopes on some federal prosecutors coming out of nowhere to finally haul their corrupt politicians and shady officials behind bars.
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
brightheron64 said:Watching this whole oil circus unfold is going to be quite the spectacle to follow...

Looking at the projections for 2022, we're seeing Chinese daily imports hitting around 7.5 million barrels, while India is pulling in about 5 million... It’s expected that India will save billions of dollars every single year because Putin has already offered them such an irresistible price, even if it means the Russians continue to rake in massive amounts of cash...

SINGAPORE, June 20 (Reuters) — It looks like the landscape of global energy is shifting quite dramatically, as Chinese imports of crude oil from Russia surged by a staggering 55% compared to this time last year, hitting record highs this past May... This massive spike has actually pushed Saudi Arabia out of its top spot as the leading supplier, leaving domestic refineries in a position to reap significant profits from these redirected flows, all while navigating the complex fallout of sanctions imposed on Moscow following its invasion of Ukraine...
According to recent data released by the Chinese Customs Service, imports of Russian oil have hit nearly 8.42 million tons, factoring in everything from the steady flow through the East Siberia Pacific Ocean pipeline to various maritime shipments arriving from Russian ports across Europe and the Far East...
That brings us to roughly 1.98 million barrels per day, which is actually quite a significant jump when you consider we were sitting at just over 1.59 million barrels per day back in April...

NEW DELHI, July 8 (Reuters) — Ever since the conflict in Ukraine kicked off, the United States and its allies have been leaning heavily on other nations to scale back their purchases of Russian oil, all in an effort to hit Moscow where it hurts most for its aggression. However, Indian refineries have taken a completely different path, actually ramping up their intake of Russian crude oil instead... meanwhile, the government is now looking into various ways to shield its domestic oil companies from potential fallout if they ever find themselves caught in the crosshairs of international sanctions...
We're seeing a massive surge in supply coming straight out of Russia. Looking at the numbers, India was importing a staggering 819,000 barrels per day back in May, which is quite a leap from the 277,000 barrels per day they saw in April, and an even more dramatic jump from just 33,000 barrels per day a year ago... It turns out Russia has officially stepped up to become India's second-largest supplier, actually overtaking Saudi Arabia in the process, though Iraq still holds onto that top spot...

Where are all the other heavy hitters, though? I’m thinking about those smaller players who are basically teetering on the edge of total bankruptcy... take Pakistan, for example, which is practically broke right now... especially since the Chinese have just gone ahead and restructured $4 billion of their maturing debt...

The government over in Pakistan has officially reached out to its domestic refineries, asking for their input on whether importing Russian crude at those incredibly attractive price points might be a smart move to offset the rising costs of imports... It looks like they’re following suit with a growing list of Asian nations that are keeping their options wide open by looking toward suppliers outside of OPEC...
According to industry insiders and market analysts, if you look at the numbers on paper, sourcing oil from the Urals could potentially save Pakistani refineries at least $30 per barrel compared to what they’re paying for Middle Eastern crude...

"At the very best, if we were to shift 100% of our energy needs over to Russia and managed to snag a 30% discount on our total oil import bill, we'd be looking at annual savings of about $6 billion," noted unnamed from Pearl Securities.

So, when all is said and done, who is actually going to end up being the "matchstick" in this oil war? Good old Europe, most likely...
I’m sitting here impatiently waiting for the announcements from the administration and the new Secretary of the Treasury in ten days. Is Eurosuper still going to be $4.50?

Our only real glimmer of hope is that sanctions on Iran and Venezuela might finally be lifted, though it will certainly take some time before Venezuela can really get back up to full speed...

From where I'm sitting, it looks like Saudi Arabia currently has exactly the kind of surplus we need, so the entire oil landscape is just shifting around. Other players are picking up Russian oil at a discount, which frees us up to buy what they used to buy, albeit at a much higher price. Yay. In the end, though, things should eventually level out... or at least get pretty close to it.
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
steelfox98 said:Eighty percent of the globe hasn't even touched Russia with sanctions. Even close US allies like Mexico—or take Israel, for that matter—haven't moved an inch. In fact, most of them maintain perfectly fine relations with Russia and show zero interest in changing that. Just another day in this messy world.
A few months back, when I dropped this exact figure, a bunch of "experts" popped up just to tell me the rest of the world doesn't matter because the West controls 50% of global GDP. Funny how fast the narrative shifts once reality hits the fan. It doesn't matter what we think on this forum, but that dismissive, West-centric attitude has always been the playbook—and the rest of the world sees right through it. No wonder one of Russia's biggest rivals, MBS, recently suggested he'd rather cut deals with the Russians who actually respect an agreement than deal with us and our habit of breaking them. But sure, let's go back to our old arrogance, pretending the rest of the world is irrelevant and everyone else is too blind to notice.

A couple of months back, this same user was peddling the exact same nonsense. Back then, they went even further, insisting we should just shut down all energy imports immediately because—get this—“we'll just get electricity from the wall outlet.” They never once bothered to explain where that power was actually supposed to come from. Typical. 🤣
Progress is finally visible.

John Deere. Just another cog in the machine. I remember seeing one of those massive tractors idling outside a diner back in Iowa—smelled like diesel and broken promises. Same old story. Terry Hernandez10 says:
Given Putin's age, a regime change is almost inevitable long before any fifty-year milestone. Will the successor follow the exact same playbook? Who knows. But it would be incredibly foolish to just keep doing the same thing without trying to pivot. If you look at the history of the USSR—which the current Russian policy mimics quite closely—every new leader introduced significant shifts, even within such a rigid system. Stalin was different from Lenin; Khrushchev was different from Stalin; Brezhnev from Khrushchev; even Andropov, despite his short stint, was highly critical of those "years of stagnation." Then there was Chernenko, who was perhaps the only outlier because he failed to truly grasp control, much like how Andropov managed to leave his mark. Finally, Gorbachev was the icing on that cake. At the end of the day, both Yeltsin and Putin had distinct styles, so it's likely someone will emerge after Putin with fresh ideas, even if they have to use the old structures to seize power.

Looking at the fallout after Putin, the only person who could step in is someone even more hostile toward the West.
We all know truth is the first casualty in war, but today's news coverage has devolved into a full-blown propaganda binge. Sure, the Russians have messed up plenty—as happens in every war—but there’s zero balance here, no alternative perspective whatsoever. It’s not like some Russians aren't watching how the other side reports this; I highly doubt they enjoy what they see. Are people really going to be foolish enough to vote for some pro-Western politician because of this?
Every action triggers a reaction. In this case, the result is a galvanized Western public opinion, while the Russians—who might have once found the West attractive—have completely shut out.

What triggered the conflict is a massive topic for another thread, but Putin has been warning us since 2007. This tragedy isn't some random outburst; it's a long-planned reaction from Russian leadership who felt backed into a corner.
It brings us back to that old idea of "what's legal for one isn't for the other"—how we spent years trying to stomp on the Russians, and out of pure arrogance, refused any dialogue with them until the bitter end.

EDIT: Does anyone remember the shock when the Russians demanded payment in rubles? People were acting like, "How dare they! That violates our sanctions!" Or look at the recent turbine situation.
That perfectly illustrates the mental capacity of our esteemed leaders. They are completely detached from reality, drafting grandiose plans on paper that could easily push us into a recession, or even a depression.

Total misunderstanding and ignoring the opposing side hasn't made anyone happy.

God help me with these people repeating that we should have shown some understanding for Putin's plan for a new Russian empire.

Oh, I see, so now it's our fault because we didn't just hand Ukraine over to Putin on a silver platter? We're all pretending to care now, but suddenly it's "oh, why didn't we do this?" We should have just abandoned our moral values immediately and shown Putin how terrified we are so we could just give him whatever he wants. I'm sure we'd all be much better off then.
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
Hey everyone, look, the reserves are sitting right here in the States, being pumped out constantly... at least when it comes to Americans.
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
feralhawk45 said:My bad... you're right. You'd realistically need about 500 m2 of solar panels.

Nah, honestly, the video is just being deceptive by showing a single roll, when there are actually 18 rolls in total, and each one is only about 190 square feet. It’s easy to overlook that in the text when you're already swept up by the flashy footage.

It’s pretty obvious from the clip that what I'm saying is true—those 18 rolls aren't going to fit in a car, let alone take up the whole thing. This whole thing feels more like a stunt than actual tech. The people in the video just spend the whole time rolling one single sheet out and back in, admiring it; they don't show the full set for even a second.

This guy claims there's massive potential here and that this test will prove to everyone how amazing EVs really are... but any viewer who isn't paying close attention is going to fall for it because they never see those 18 rolls. They don't even see two. It just looks incredibly slick when you're only looking at one roll.

Most "innovations" these days are just glorified scams.
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
feralhawk45 said:That Tesla drove all the way across the US using nothing but solar panels... just 18 square meters of panels folded up like plastic wrap. When the battery ran low, the guys just unfolded the "plastic" and recharged everything in 45 minutes for the next 249 miles.
Sorry, getting off topic.

Yeah, right... 18 square meters of mediocre solar panels fully charging a Tesla in 45 minutes? That would mean they’re pumping out 100-200kW of power. Come on, think about it. You can't get nearly that much solar energy hitting an 18-square-meter area, even if you converted every single photon into electricity. If that much radiation was actually hitting us, we'd all be toast.

I reckon you’d need something like 100 square meters of actual, legitimate solar panels (not some rolled-up gimmick) to get maybe 10kW of power; that's roughly the right ballpark...

They’d be sitting there trying to charge him for a week instead of 45 minutes with just 18 square meters of solar, assuming even that would be enough.

Actually, if I remember correctly, they were hauling dozens of those rolls, maybe twenty of them. They basically took over a whole football field once they unrolled everything. I can't quite recall the exact number...

Bottom line is, they’d end up covering every meadow and pasture in sight with cars parked like that. Plus, you can't fit anything else in a car. If you could even fit the gear in there, they must have been driving a support truck with those rolls. I don't see how twenty of those things fit into a Tesla Model 3. Honestly, it sounds to me like they were just pulling a fast one to bait investors and hedge funds...

EVs, solar, renewables—it's all the ultimate investment hype train. Throw in 3D printing on top of that, and if they sprinkled a little bit of AI buzzwords over the whole thing, there wouldn't be any limit to it... people would be throwing money at them by the bucketload.
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:
fgzcvijetic As stated by:
And why would they? Do you honestly believe anyone in this administration is capable of strategic, long-term thinking?

Just take a look at the prices for flour, bread, and pastries lately. It’s absurd. Meanwhile, they offered farmers a buyout price that barely covers the cost of seeds.$0.70 Per kilogram (currently trading at about $0.37 on the European markets).
Anyone with enough silo capacity will play it smart. They’ll store their harvest, sit tight through the peak of the season, and wait for the dust to settle. Once those market prices skyrocket again? That’s when they strike.

It is worth examining who actually controls the storage infrastructure. For instance, take a look at John Deere—they hold 45,000 tons in their silos under the control of an unknown owner tied to Mitsubishi and King ITC.

Gentlemen and ladies—do you honestly believe that wheat is harvested and corn is gathered all year round, making storage capacity entirely unnecessary?
Of course silos exist. They are almost entirely privately owned, which is a stroke of luck since they have zero connection to the government. History shows that whenever the state manages strategic reserves, those supplies have a funny way of vanishing right when things get tight. One day the silos are brimming with wheat; the next, they’re bone dry. I suppose we should just blame the security guards for pocketing the grain while they walk out the gate. It is the same old story we see with bank bailouts or those massive subsidies for failing shipyards—whenever the government hands out taxpayer money to fix a crisis, that cash inevitably evaporates into thin air.
Wheat is a global commodity. Seriously, walk me through the logic here. As a producer, why on earth would you ever sell your grain below the current market price? It defies all common sense. Unless, of course, you are actively trying to drive yourself into bankruptcy—or perhaps you’re just an executive at someone else's firm, motivated by some "special interest" to dump stock below value. It makes zero sense.
Government-run grain silos won't do a damn thing to drive down wheat prices. It’s a fallacy. You still have to fill those silos in the first place, which means you have to buy the grain from someone else. That requires massive amounts of capital. Suddenly, your liquidity is tied up in bushels of wheat or corn sitting in a bin, and everyone knows the market is a gamble—prices could skyrocket or crater overnight. Then there's the matter of shrinkage; even with perfect storage, you're looking at about a 1% loss in mass annually. But that’s a whole different headache.

Yeah, you're spot on; in America, commodity reserves are a total myth.

I was watching this program where they explained that America imports wheat because even though we produce plenty of everything, there isn't enough space to store it all, so a huge chunk gets exported and then we end up importing it back later...

Wouldn't it make more sense to just store it in silos instead of exporting it? Then, instead of importing it down the road, we could just pull it out of storage. Why doesn't that ever happen?
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
brightheron64 said:But why would they bother? Do you truly believe anyone in this administration is actually thinking strategically or looking at the long term...

Just take a look at the prices for flour, bread, and pastries lately... meanwhile, farmers are being offered buyback prices as low as 2-$0.70 cents per pound (compared to the much higher rates on the European Union market).
Whoever owns the silos will just store their stock safely and wait out the harvest season, and once those prices skyrocket again... well, they'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

It’s also worth noting who actually controls the storage infrastructure (for instance, companies like PPK Valpovo—where 45,000 tons are held by Stipa Matić, the owner of M-san and King ITC).

At least they could think about their own kin for once—rigging up some family-run contract for silo construction so that even if we end up paying three times the market rate, at least we’d actually have the damn things built.

Just take a look at what we're paying for flour, bread, and pastries... meanwhile, the farmers were offered a buyout price of just 2-$0.70 per pound (on the European Union exchange, it's closer to $0.37).
Whoever owns the silos is going to store everything perfectly, wait out the harvest rush, and then strike when prices skyrocket again... and that's where the real money is made.

It’s worth noting who actually controls the storage capacity here (for instance, a massive facility like the one in Valpovo—45,000 tons sitting right in the hands of Stipa Matić, the guy behind M-san and King ITC).
Sanctions on Russia in War in Ukraine ·
electricsurfer47 said:Also,

Russia knows they're sinking; only Putin knows just how deep it goes. I honestly think he's planning to cut off gas and oil right before winter hits. He's probably calculated that that's the best way to squeeze Europe the hardest.

But Europe isn't doing nearly enough to prepare for that.

I don't hear anything being said publicly about how we're actually replacing the gas supply. Why aren't they giving people tax breaks or subsidies to buy wood stoves and firewood?? I know, I know, it's not the "green" solution. But wood has always been, and will continue to be, cheaper than gas.

Plus, it would take the pressure off the gas demand, which could then be used to produce synthetic fertilizer that we're going to desperately need next year. If anyone is actually planning to react, they need to do it right now.

We keep hearing our leaders claim the gas reserves are at 50% and that they have plans to hit 90% once deliveries arrive... but if I'm reading the situation correctly, those reserves might just be enough to limp through the season.

And while we're on the subject, I don't understand why we don't have adequate grain silos. Is it just that expensive, or is the return on investment not high enough for them? The government should be treating this as a matter of national security, even if it’s essentially a sunk cost. Otherwise, all this talk about banning grain exports is completely pointless... you can't actually enforce an export ban if you don't have the infrastructure to store the stuff.

In this new era, governments—actual administrations—have to step up and handle these fundamental necessities. You can't leave this stuff to profit-driven capitalism to solve. In fact, it's that exact obsession with the bottom line that creates these strategic vulnerabilities in the first place.
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Kate Lewis3 said:Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if some big shot at the top has shady ties to Russia and intentionally made the company reliant on a single supplier—especially since they aren't even a major player in global titanium production anyway (African nations are leading the pack; South Africa exports nearly 700 times more kilograms than Russia does).

egzekli
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Dana Robinson4 said:It isn't even remotely the same thing.

Whether you're pumping oil into a tanker or a pipeline, it’s all essentially the same deal, isn't it?

But with gas, if you want to put it in a tanker, you have to go through the massive effort of super-cooling it first, only to have to reheat it once it reaches its final destination.

It doesn't matter; the bottom line is that an LNG terminal gives you the flexibility to bring in gas from any source you want, whereas those Russian pipelines leave you stuck with whatever they decide to send... and it's the exact same deal when it comes to oil...
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Ilana I can't even begin to wrap my head around this. It’s like watching someone try to build a skyscraper out of wet cardboard and then acting shocked when the whole thing collapses under its own weight. You see it all the time—people making these sweeping, half-baked claims without ever stepping back to look at the actual mechanics of how things work in the real world. It’s one thing to have an opinion, but it’s another thing entirely to be so confidently wrong that you actually believe your own nonsense. Honestly, it reminds me of those amateur pundits on cable news who talk for twenty minutes straight without saying a single coherent thing, just circling the drain of their own logic until the audience eventually tunes out from sheer exhaustion. You can't just ignore the fundamental rules of the game and expect to win, no matter how much noise you make.
Sure, all that sympathy is nice and all, but let’s be real—it doesn’t actually change anything. It’s like being told "sorry you're hungry" while someone's standing there holding the only key to the pantry. Nobody here, and honestly nobody in your life, even gets a say in whether you're allowed to make your own choices or not. Everything is decided by those people at the top who decide when they want to cut off your access to cheaper gas just so they can force you into buying the expensive stuff. It’s a rigged game; they create the dependency on one thing just so they can hike the price on exactly what you need to survive, and we're all just stuck following their lead.

You got any other options?

The whole situation with importing oil via pipelines directly from Russia is just a massive headache that we can't seem to shake. It’s like trying to rely on a neighbor you don't trust to keep your furnace running all winter; you know deep down that at any moment, they could just turn the valve and leave you shivering in the dark just to prove a point. We're essentially tethering our energy security to a volatile geopolitical wildcard, and honestly, it feels like we're walking a tightrope without a net. You look at the infrastructure we have in place, and instead of diversifying or building something truly independent, we’re stuck leaning on these massive, outdated conduits that give one specific foreign power way too much leverage over our domestic stability. It’s frustrating because it feels less like a strategic choice and more like we're being held hostage by a supply chain that was built on shaky ground to begin with.

Then there's the whole business of importing crude through those massive tanker terminals, kind of like how they operate out of the Port of Corpus Christi or the refineries down in Louisiana. It’s a completely different beast compared to just pulling stuff from a pipeline. You're talking about deep-water access, massive infrastructure, and having to deal with the sheer logistics of docking these gargantuan vessels. It changes the entire flow of the supply chain when you're relying on those coastal hubs to feed the refineries.

Look, if you follow principle A, all you're doing is handing over the keys to the kingdom and making yourself completely beholden to Russia. It’s like building your entire house on someone else's land and then acting surprised when they decide to charge you rent just for existing. You aren't gaining any leverage; you're just creating a permanent dependency that leaves you with zero room to maneuver when things inevitably get messy.

Under principle B, you basically have the green light to buy fuel from just about anyone capable of filling up a tanker truck. It’s wide open.

Look, Principle B is a bit of a headache because, let's be honest, most suppliers out there operate like they're part of some shady little cartel, just squeezing you whenever they feel like it. But if you step back and look at the big picture, you’ve still got a whole lineup of different vendors to choose from, so you aren't really stuck hanging on the teat of any single one of them for survival.

It’s the exact same logic you apply to LNG. You either pull gas through a pipeline from someone like Russia—or maybe Algeria or Norway—or you have an LNG terminal that lets you source from the Americans, Australians, Qataris, or Norwegians. Basically, you can buy from whoever has the capacity to fill a tanker. Even Iran is sitting on massive reserves if you really wanted to go there. The beauty of it is that because there are so many players, you’re actually in a position to hunt for the cheapest option available. It’s not like dealing with a single entity like Russia or their state-run Gazprom where you're stuck with whatever they dictate. That’s exactly why those guys try to form cartels in the first place; they’re terrified that if they don't stick together, the competition will drive their prices straight into the ground.

Why is it that the same politicians who essentially handed Germany’s energy security over to Russia on a silver platter—leaving us with zero LNG terminals to our name—are now suddenly landing cushy, high-paying board seats at Russian mega-corporations? You have to wonder if they were actually working for the benefit of their own citizens and the stability of the country, or if they were just setting themselves up for a golden parachute all along. It feels less like public service and more like a long-term career move funded by foreign interests.

It’s pretty obvious from everything we see that Putin doesn't actually care about money for its own sake—to him, cash is just another tool in the kit, a means to an end. And yet, here you are, thinking that in a world filled with guys like him, you can somehow play the game by just obsessing over the bottom line. That is a hell of a strategy, really. I mean, if you're planning on running for office, I’m sure Putin will be more than happy to throw his support behind you during the election.

The combatants love to sing their little anthems about how vital they are, acting like they’re locked in some grand, mythical struggle for the soul of the nation. It’s all very dramatic, isn't it? But while they're busy playing hero, the actual people on the ground are stuck agonizing over every single cent, forced to make impossible choices between buying a gallon of milk or a bunch of bananas. They’re out there organizing bake sales and abstinence challenges just to scrape by, all while the leaders are quietly padding their own bank accounts behind closed doors.

So, where does that leave us now? You can complain about all the cynicism in the world all you want, but look at the underlying logic here: people act like if anyone makes a dime off something, the whole thing is instantly branded a scam. It’s this immediate, reflexive judgment where if there’s a profit margin involved, then profit is automatically labeled the sole driver behind the scenes, and everything else is just some sugary coating meant to sell a lie to the masses. It’s this pervasive, almost universal mindset that we see everywhere in America today. We hide behind this veil of skepticism to deny the possibility that a good cause or a positive movement could actually be supported by, or even sponsored by, someone making money. Because let’s face it—if you dig deep enough into any organization or initiative, you’re going to find a profit motive somewhere. And because of that, people decide the entire endeavor loses its soul and becomes invalid. It’s a lazy way of thinking that shuts down any nuance.

Even when you look at the actual money involved, what are we even supposed to do with this? Take the way the US handles Ukraine—it’s not like we’re just selling them weapons; we’re basically handing them massive piles of equipment for free, all while tossing in heaps of extra cash on top. When you sit down and crunch the numbers, subtracting everything else, it turns out that American taxpayers are footing the lion's share of this entire bill. We’re talking billions upon billions of dollars already gone. If anyone is getting fleeced here, it’s the average American taxpayer. The only people actually seeing a return on this investment are the owners of the big US defense contractors, while the working class picks up the tab. And who owns those companies? Mostly just massive American pension funds. So, in a weird way, nobody really wins; a few people get filthy rich, but can we please just focus on the real issues? Instead, these profiteering elites are scattering our attention everywhere, treating us like we're some sort of disorganized labor union instead of a nation. It’s the same story with oil prices—they stay high for everyone because it’s a global market, though obviously, it feels a bit lighter at the pump for Americans since we don't deal with the same heavy tax hikes they do elsewhere. Sure, gas and energy demand is going to skyrocket because of this mess, but where does that leave us? Did Putin really, truly have to invade Ukraine? It honestly feels like he didn't need to at all. Just look at the sheer amount of propaganda and so-called "experts" they've mobilized to manufacture reasons why this was an absolute necessity. It feels incredibly staged; if there were actually a legitimate, powerful reason behind it, they wouldn't need to work this hard to sell us on the narrative.

It’s really not that complicated, honestly. You have corrupt politicians landing cushy sinecure jobs at places like Gazprom, and yet you’re standing there claiming they were actually working for the people or sabotaging LNG terminals for the greater good? Give me a break. Having more options for gas procurement—which, let’s be real, is an absolute strategic necessity for Germany—is somehow supposed to be bad for a nation? According to this logic, we should just rely on one single country as our primary energy source, even if that country is ruled by a dictator and a KGB-style regime that poisons its own people with nerve agents, just because the price tag is a little lower. If anyone ever tries to change that dependency, we’ll just turn around and tell them they’re trying to force expensive gas on the country, effectively shutting them down. It’s all very clever and deeply profound stuff, clearly written by someone in that special "too smart for their own good" category.
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brightheron64 said:Actually, you absolutely can. You pin that demon down while he's still on his back, you don't give him a second to breathe, let alone stand up... and come after you again.

That whole idea of a "deservedly slow death" feels like a tired cliché from some James Bond film where the villain is left to fade away, only to somehow manage to wreck everything anyway at the very end...

The general global population—and I say this gently, but many couldn't even point to Moscow on a map if their lives depended on it—happily swallows the narrative that sanctions will slowly wither Russia away. They fail to realize they are dealing with a nation that transitioned from feudalism and a brutal autocracy (essentially total destitution under the Tsars) into another form of struggle—communism—and was then handed a version of "progress" and democracy by Putin himself, leading to a lifestyle where things like BMWs, iPhones, Adidas, and Nestle became the standard norm...

The West (NATO) seems to be viewing this entire situation through rose-colored glasses, assuming that whatever hurts them must be hurting the Russians just as much. But if you want to see how effective that kind of policy really is, just look at South Korea... which, heaven help us, is still breathing, thriving, and living on nothing but a bowl of rice, all while building up a defense sector so massive that picking a fight with them would be genuinely, perilously dangerous...

Try sending a million starving people to surrender and then see how that works out for you.
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I can't make sense of what you're trying to say here. It's just a single word without any context, so I have nothing to work with. If you want me to rewrite something, give me the full text and I'll get to it. kaže:
There’s just no way to know for sure ahead of time. To me, the real question isn't about intelligence or foresight; it's whether there is any genuine, sincere interest on the global stage to actually promote democracy—and I don't mean the messy, destabilizing kind of "promotion" we saw play out in places like Libya, Iraq, or Afghanistan. I'm talking about doing it through peaceful, constructive means.

Look, at the end of the day, if you want to see any real change from those kinds of provocations, you can't just sit around waiting for it to happen. You need a response that comes directly from a critical mass of people within the target country—people who aren't just watching from the sidelines, but are actually organized, genuinely interested, and willing to push back. It’s about building enough momentum through various dedicated groups on the ground to make sure those incentives don't just slide by unnoticed.

The reality of the situation is, once the cat has licked its paws... Building a real democracy isn't just about checking boxes on a ballot or setting up some fancy government building; it’s about actually successfully cultivating democratic institutions and a genuine culture of civic engagement. It's one thing to have the framework on paper, but it's an entirely different beast to foster a society where people actually understand their role and respect the rules of the game. You can't just manufacture political maturity overnight—it takes time, grit, and a shared commitment to the principles that keep a nation from sliding into chaos.It’s almost certain that what helped those defeated Axis powers after World War II was the fact that... You have to look at how much leverage the winning powers of the anti-fascist coalition actually managed to grab for themselves. It wasn't just about winning the fight; it was about who walked away holding all the strings and controlling the levers of power once the dust finally settled.

Is that really an absolute prerequisite for success? Honestly, I hope to God it isn't, because if it is, we might need to start looking for a different way to play the game entirely.

Is there actually any real necessity for the existence of a competing superpower to provide that kind of motivation? Back in the day, having the USSR around certainly did the trick, but I don't know. It’s one of those things that makes you wonder if we only move forward when someone is breathing down our necks.

I’m not even going to try to argue that establishing anything resembling a democratic or liberal regime in Russia or China is some simple task. In fact, I wouldn't go so far as to say it's even possible in our lifetime. If you actually take a moment to look at the sheer weight of history in those two nations, it becomes pretty obvious that we're looking at a monumental, perhaps insurmountable, uphill battle.

I’m just saying, it's worth a shot.

If we actually managed to steer ourselves away from the constant threat of war for good, that would be the real prize.

The whole idea that ethnonationalist states can actually function as stable democracies is a complete fantasy. If you look at history, those kinds of setups are basically ticking time bombs for democratic stability. When a country defines itself by a single ethnic identity, it inherently creates an "us versus them" dynamic that eventually poisons the well of political discourse. You end up with a system where anyone who doesn't fit that specific mold is treated like a second-class citizen, which is the literal antithesis of what a healthy democracy is supposed to be. It’s a recipe for exclusion and resentment, and honestly, it makes the entire foundation of governance incredibly fragile.

Europe only stays even remotely stable because they’re being kept on a tight leash by the Americans.

Treating Russia as if it were some kind of functioning democracy is an incredibly dangerous gamble. It’s like trying to build a skyscraper on top of a sinkhole; you might get a few stories up, but you're fundamentally ignoring the fact that the entire foundation is hollowed out and ready to collapse at any second. When you deal with a regime that operates under those kinds of pretenses, you aren't engaging with a stable political system—you're just playing a high-stakes game of chicken with a massive, unpredictable void.
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George Robinson43 said:You might have forgotten this part, or perhaps you left it out on purpose—it applies to all warships belonging to belligerent Powers.
...unless we are talking about the warships of belligerent Powers returning to their home ports in the Black Sea.

All other vessels are permitted to stay in the Black Sea for up to 21 days.

Vessels of War belonging to non-Black Sea Powers shall not remain in The Black Sea more Than twenty-one Days
regardless of why they are there.
Article 19.
In time of War , Turkey not being belligerent , warships shall enjoy complete Freedom of Transit and navigation through The Straits under The same conditions as those laid down in Article 10
to 18.

Vessels of War belonging to belligerent Powers shall not however , pass through The Straits except in cases arising out of The application of Article 25 of The present Convention,

It isn't a "war," it's a "special operation."
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northernangler8 said:NATO presents itself as a defensive alliance, yet here we are, right in the middle of a war because of them. I guess it would probably help some people if they weren't quite so naive and actually used their own heads for once.

What was Ukraine missing all this time? They lived the Western lifestyle for as long as they wanted. They had their freedom. In fact, one Ukrainian even mentioned how both Russians and certain Ukrainians have been oppressing people within Ukraine since 2014, and how he misses the days when the Russian language could be spoken freely there. American policy pretty much tore all of that apart.
So, please don't lump what the Ukrainians want together with what politicians want—those are two completely different things.

Send me that statement from Putin—not a transcript, I want to see the actual video.

Look, let's call a spade a spade here: we're in the middle of a war because Vladimir Putin decided to launch an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. It’s that simple, though people love to complicate it with endless political gymnastics. He crossed the line, broke the peace, and now the whole world is dealing with the fallout of his aggression.

Look, let’s be clear about what we’re actually talking about here: NATO is a defensive alliance. It exists specifically to provide a shield against Russia. That was the whole point behind Ukraine trying to break away from Russian influence, along with every other former Warsaw Pact nation that found itself under the thumb of Moscow. Every single one of those countries and their people made it crystal clear: they don't want a single person to ever come along and pretend to "protect their freedom" while actually stripping it away again. They've had enough of that story, and frankly, so have I.

So, Russia is out here spinning this absolute fairy tale where they claim NATO is some shadowy cabal secretly forcing everyone to flee from them, basically using them as pawns in some grand scheme. At the exact same time, they’re out there using raw military force, leveling cities, and committing blatant war crimes in an attempt to crush Ukraine—all while framing this whole invasion as some kind of "liberation" from that supposed secret NATO coercion. It’s honestly laughable. You have these so-called geniuses over there trying to sell us this nonsense with their half-baked logic and finger-wagging, acting like we’re all too dim to see through the smoke and mirrors. They aren't fooling anyone; nobody is actually buying this level of delusion.

Quincy:
What exactly was missing for Ukraine all this time? I mean, they’ve been living that Western lifestyle for as long as they damn well could. They had their freedom, plain and simple.
What was it that finally broke Russia’s ability to just stay within its own borders? They had everything they needed to maintain their little slice of freedom—which, let's be honest, was basically just being a state run by the KGB mafia. For years, the rest of the world played right along, trading with these mobsters like nothing was wrong. They even managed to grease the palms of the Olympic committees and FIFA just to keep those massive, prestigious global events hosted on their soil. But it wasn't enough. Instead, that Russian KGB mindset got wrapped up in this suffocating, arrogant self-importance. They became obsessed with the easy win: looting their own people blind while simultaneously bribing Western politicians to look the other way, all just to feed the delusion that they could rebuild a mafia-style version of the old USSR.

Quincy:
I even heard one Ukrainian guy remarking how things have gone downhill since 2014, claiming that Russians and certain local factions have basically been squeezing the life out of the country ever since. He was actually expressing this genuine sense of regret for the days when you could just speak Russian freely without looking over your shoulder. It really feels like American foreign policy has come in and completely torn that social fabric apart, leaving nothing but chaos in its wake.
You know, I’ve been sitting here thinking about this, and I can't help but feel like we're being fed a complete fairy tale. When you really step back and look at the big picture, isn't it obvious that the Russian aggression against Ukraine is actually just a byproduct of American policy? It’s almost like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone points fingers at the conductor, but nobody wants to admit the tracks were laid out by Washington all along. It makes me wonder if anyone is actually looking at the underlying mechanics of how these geopolitical tensions are stoked and maintained.

Quincy:
Look, you really need to stop conflating what the Ukrainians actually want with the agendas being pushed by politicians. Those are two completely different beasts, and treating them as the same thing is just fundamentally misguided.
It’s pretty obvious when you look at the big picture: Ukrainians are pushing hard to join the EU, and Vladimir Putin is doing everything in his power to block them. If you actually stop to think about it, the choice is staring everyone in the face. When you're forced to pick between a bleak, suffocating Russian dystopia and the opportunities found within the EU, any rational person is going to choose the latter. It isn't some complicated geopolitical puzzle; it's just common sense.
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northernangler8 said:This is the kind of naivety everyone falls for. There is no such thing as a truly sovereign state. Our country isn't even truly sovereign. That only exists on paper. Everyone is ruled by someone bigger. That's why what we're seeing in Ukraine is actually a war between two major powers fighting over who gets to dominate and control Ukraine. Do you really think our leadership makes independent decisions? Not a chance. They just do whatever they're told from above; they don't have the backbone to think for themselves. No small country actually calls its own shots.

If Ukraine hadn't given up its nukes, they never would have been freed from the Russians. That was the whole point of the deal. Russia allowed Ukraine to enjoy Western comforts in exchange for the nukes. And look what happened once Russia let the West into their politics. The West poked its nose into their business just to stir up a conflict with Russia, and it's the Ukrainians who are paying the price.

Ukraine had no reason to fear Russia, unless they turned their backs on them—which is exactly what the pro-American politicians in power did. Ukraine could have maintained the freedom it had until now if politicians with bad intentions hadn't engineered this war. The U.S. is bothered by Russia, and this is just their attempt to get rid of them. I guess Putin was being patient while watching the U.S. provoke this situation in Ukraine. This war could have started much earlier, but Putin didn't want it. Now, though, he felt like he had no choice because the noose was tightening too much.

NATO attacks subtly and murky, much like a virus. But it’s always there, quietly provoking war. Not directly, but through indirect actions.

In short, the KGB mobsters want Ukraine, but the people won't give in, leaving the EU and NATO as their only lifeline.

The KGB mobsters are terrible actors, pretending to be Americans while they carry out their dirty work, only to later claim they're doing what Americans are capable of. Then they'll pivot and attack the Americans using that exact same logic, leading you to wonder why they can't manage it themselves. Like I said before, the word "no" means nothing to a Russian; they'll spout two contradictory things, lie through their teeth without a shred of shame, and say whatever they think will influence someone else, regardless of how much of a lie, stupidity, or contradiction it is. They just babble incessantly without any sense of decency.

An average person who isn't constantly glued to the news would easily believe some of this, simply because it's hard to wrap your head around the fact that anyone could lie, twist the truth, and revise history so shamelessly and persistently on such an unbelievable scale.
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rustynomad12 said:Honestly, you just seem a little immature—especially since you keep using "we"... who is this collective "we" you think you represent?
Just you.
Sorry, I'm not going to sink to that level...
I respect any argument that's actually backed by facts, including yours...
Maybe re-read what I wrote... or don't. Whatever.
As far as I'm concerned, this debate is over.

Trust me, there isn't a lower level for you to sink to than where you're standing right now.

There isn't even a debate happening here; you just took something personally, and all it does is make you look like a Russian troll.

And when I say "we," I'm talking about the people actually participating in this forum—the ones who have been posting under the same handles for months, not someone playing dress-up.
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rustynomad12 said:I’m not quite following you... are you saying I don't have a right to my own opinion?
After watching a million deep dives, strategic breakdowns, listening to generals, experts, professors, looking at historical facts... and keeping up with this forum, yeah, I do.
My whole thing is taking all those little puzzle pieces and putting them together to figure out what the big picture looks like.
And I’ve already laid out my conclusion clearly! Honestly, if you get what I mean, I really don't care what everyone else thinks about it...
I choose what matters to me.
But let me be crystal clear: absolutely NOTHING and NEVER justifies Russia's crimes, their invasion of a sovereign nation, or the pure nastiness they're bringing to this war.

Trying to shift the blame onto Americans while Russia is actively tearing Ukraine apart is just a way to excuse the Russians, no matter how much you scream in all caps that you aren't doing that. In reality, that is exactly what you're doing.

People didn't give a damn about Iraq when it was actually happening, but suddenly everyone is an expert on the "bigger picture" and deeply concerned about Iraq when it serves as a convenient excuse to downplay Russian aggression.

We see right through you. You're just here to provide cover for the Russians. Every time they pull some absolute bullshit, you're right there ready to swoop in with your "big picture" perspective to make sure they aren't held accountable.
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rustynomad12 said:They work, don't you worry... it just takes a little while...
I mean, let's be real, nobody is more of a bully than the USA...
If we're being totally honest, once this all settles how it's supposed to, we should just tell them all where to shove it and focus on getting stronger within the Union...
The Russians and the Americans are both terrible choices...
It's just a matter of which set of evils you're forced to pick from...
The USA is the main one to blame for all this mess, period! No debate!
Just listen to that Nulandicu-fuck EU. That's enough smarts for one day.

Listen up, because the trolls are actually being sincere for once

The trolling antics never seem to end, do they?

First, you have to establish the premise that both Russia and the USA are equally shady

And only then do you aggressively pivot to claiming the Americans are even worse.

Only someone truly sharp can see through that logic.