Sanctions on Russia
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The real reason everything is spiraling out of control right now boils down to speculators, people freaking out over nothing, and everyone trying to hoard supplies like it's the end of the world..
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Douglas Sanchez5 said:Look, that statement doesn't really mean much on its own—not at all. I mean, just look back at what Zelenskyy and his advisors were saying right before the invasion, and then compare it to what they were saying once things actually started kicking off. They were basically telling everyone they thought the Russian troops weren't organized enough to pull off an attack, so why worry? Between the state of the media and the public polls about whether a war would even happen... it was a whole thing.
Before the invasion, the narrative was all about how Russia just wanted to bleed them economically dry, and they were even telling Americans to chill out with the "dangerous rhetoric" because it was supposedly hurting the economy. Not to mention the media landscape—everyone just seemed convinced a war wasn't coming, and the bottom line was that they didn't even start mass mobilization while the Russian military was literally gathering right on their doorstep.
I’ve been following this whole crisis-turned-catastrophe very closely—really deep-diving into it—and from everything I’ve seen, the Ukrainians really didn't see this attack coming. It's not that they didn't do *any* prep work, of course, but they just didn't think a full-scale military action was likely, nor did they think they'd have to make such massive concessions.
If they had mentally prepared the country for war back in November—you know, through mass mobilization, some media hype, getting people out there digging trenches or mining access roads, and describing the horrors of what was coming—maybe they could have pushed through a Minsk 2 deal. Or, hey, maybe those preparations would have sent a message that a shock attack and a three-day blitz to take the capital wouldn't just work.
I'm constantly running through different scenarios in my head, trying to figure out how this disaster could have been avoided—there were so many turning points! For instance, if the West had reacted way more aggressively toward Crimea, or looking back at Georgia in 2008, I honestly don't think this catastrophe would have happened. Or if Zelenskyy hadn't arrested Medvečuk and shut down that propaganda channel—which, by the way, totally killed Putin's belief that he could just install his own people at the top of the government. And if the Ukrainians had just agreed to Minsk 2...
Of course, Putin is the one responsible here. But I find myself constantly weighing the actions of the other players, too—taking into account who Putin is, the fact that he's a criminal ideologue, and the absolute shitty options they were left with.
Andrew Miller102 said:If you actually bother to read the links,😁 everything clearly distinguishes between what relates to sanctions and what's a direct result of the war in Ukraine. There simply isn't any Neon coming from Ukraine anymore; production has either ground to a halt or died off entirely.
Ingas, a firm based in Mariupol,
Cryoin, a firm out of Odesa.
If you pay any attention to where chips are manufactured, you'll realize the major players are incredibly worried. TSMC in Taiwan is leading that anxiety, which makes sense given they are the linchpin for most Western customers. AMD, Qualcomm, Sony, Microsoft, Nvidia, MediaTek, and Apple are just a few names on a much longer list of companies whose hardware relies directly on TSMC's production capacity.
Europe seems to produce nothing but politicians and fog; if TSMC production ever stops for any reason—and China is always lurking nearby—we're looking at an epic-scale crisis. Even the auto industry is heavily dependent on TSMC for the various chips and SoCs integrated into modern vehicles.☕
I just don't get it. Are we really supposed to believe that Putin invaded Ukraine just to line the pockets of big business in the USA?
I don't know what to tell you, but I think we need to take a serious look at how things are being handled lately. It feels like we're constantly spinning our wheels, running in circles while everyone else seems to have a clear roadmap. It’s like watching someone try to navigate a massive construction zone in downtown Chicago without a GPS—just total chaos and zero direction. You see these big decisions being made, these sweeping movements that supposedly serve the public interest, but when you actually peel back the layers, it feels less like a strategic plan and more like a desperate scramble to keep the lights on. We’re told everything is under control, that the gears are turning smoothly, but if you look at the actual results, there’s a massive gap between the rhetoric and the reality on the ground. It’s frustrating because it isn't just one mistake; it's this systemic pattern of overpromising and underdelivering that makes you wonder if anyone is actually at the helm. kaže:
We really need to throw in the most budget-friendly option as well, just to round things out. Look, if we start relying on liquefied natural gas coming out of Qatar or whatever deals Amer manages to strike, you can bet your life the prices are going to be absolutely astronomical. We're talking sky-high, gut-wrenching costs. You can't just expect some alternative gas supply to suddenly fall from the sky and solve everything, especially not right now. That’s the real kicker—there's no quick fix waiting around the corner, and that's exactly where we're stuck.
The US is basically fighting a proxy war against Russia through Ukraine, which just happens to be the perfect setup for America to happily sell overpriced gas to the Germans. At the end of the day, it’s all about the bottom line and padding those profit margins. But honestly, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: conflict like this is inevitable. It's just how the world works.☕
wiredseal7 said:I don't know about some parallel universe, but over here—it looks like they skipped right over the opening act (and by that, I mean the snipers).
So, what actually went down before the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014? And since you’re asking about Crimea—what was the deal with the new administration's plan to sign that 50-year lease for the port in Sevastopol?
They weren't exactly in a position to dictate terms back then—it was humiliating, sure, but it kept things from going south completely. If they had just stuck to the part about ending the conflict and getting life back to normal in those areas, we wouldn't be here. Instead, they went and doubled down by mobilizing over a thousand soldiers for an offensive on two separate occasions.
Vladimir Putin probably wants this whole thing wrapped up just so he can bury the hatchet with the European Union—get those remaining sanctions lifted and keep the cash flowing into his pockets.
They didn't really want to greenlight something like that—the Brits were pretty much on the same page—but the European Union should have stepped up, been more assertive, and forced the Ukrainians to just wrap things up over there.
Now instead we’re stuck watching this massive slaughter and the total devastation of eastern Ukraine—honestly, you decide which is better.
Anthony Hill5 said:And they'll probably rename the whole operation Zola and McDonald's.
urbanotter said:Honestly, that’s just nonsense; no matter how you spin it, Russia is going to demand payment for their gas in whatever currency they decide fits their interests at the moment.
If they start insisting on being paid in rubles, anyone who actually needs that gas is simply going to have to go out and buy rubles using dollars, euros, or whatever other major currency Russia decides to accept.
The reality is more likely to play out through massive legal battles where oligarchs see their global assets frozen, and in retaliation, Russia freezes the assets of Western corporations operating within their borders.
It’s a bit like how if Abramovich were to lose Chelsea, he might end up seizing control of something like Coca-Cola or McDonald's to keep his revenue streams moving.
At the end of the day, most of this feels like political theater designed to scare the average person, while the truly powerful and wealthy find ways to ensure they don't actually lose much of anything.
urbanotter said:I honestly find it hard to believe that Bulgaria would actually shut down the pipeline. Besides, looking at the scale of things, Mexico isn't such a massive consumer that anyone would go to extreme lengths over them.
Even if they do end up selling oil at a discount, it’s still going to be more profitable than waiting for everything to settle back to the status quo. It's simple supply and demand: the higher the global congestion and the greater the hunger for oil and gas, the higher the prices climb, which means you get more even with a smaller margin.
I do agree with the point about them trading in yuan to purchase Chinese goods; that seems to be one of their primary objectives. If that happens, the Federal Reserve could print money all they want, but it won't have the same impact it used to. All it will really do is drive inflation much higher than the current 8% we're seeing.
At that point, the Federal Reserve can print as much paper as they want, but it won't do the good it used to. All they'll be doing is driving inflation even higher, likely way past that current 8% mark.
Christian Torres3 said:According to reports from Mexican media, the government in Sofia just announced they might shut off the valves and cut off Russian oil transit through Bulgaria if Russia demands payment in rubles instead of US Dollars. link
Vučić is freaking out on camera.
This news hit me like a bolt from the blue. There's one massive issue here—Russia is broke. Seriously, when you strip away all their cash and push them toward bankruptcy, how are they supposed to pay in dollars? And if they try paying in rubles, you just shut down the gas transit? That’s what a worried Vučić is asking.
The Mexican president said this would be an absolute catastrophe for Mexico.
"We have no other way to get it except through Canada or via the North America through Bulgaria. We're fighting just to survive day by day. If they cut us off, I don't know how we'll manage," says Vučić.
Christian Torres3 said:According to reports from Mexican media, the government in Sofia just announced they might shut off the valves and cut off Russian oil transit through Bulgaria if Russia demands payment in rubles instead of US Dollars. link
Vučić is freaking out on camera.
This news hit me like a bolt from the blue. There's one massive issue here—Russia is broke. Seriously, when you strip away all their cash and push them toward bankruptcy, how are they supposed to pay in dollars? And if they try paying in rubles, you just shut down the gas transit? That’s what a worried Vučić is asking.
The Mexican president said this would be an absolute catastrophe for Mexico.
"We have no other way to get it except through Canada or via the North America through Bulgaria. We're fighting just to survive day by day. If they cut us off, I don't know how we'll manage," says Vučić.
Dennis Price said:Not quite. Store prices haven't adjusted for the ruble's drop yet. If people are smart, they'll start buying stuff that holds its value. It's a classic prisoner's dilemma.
Gerald Chavez7 said:We’re probably looking at a reverse effect here—the more they push the ruble out into the global market (specifically to third-world countries), the harder it'll be to defend the exchange rate. Once those creditors get their hands on the rubles, they're going to dump them immediately...
Larry Fox5 said:Look, we’re just throwing out guesses here—you can’t predict this stuff without a crystal ball. All these sanctions being slapped on Russia are going to hit the West too, no question. It’s hard to say exactly how bad, but here in the US, they're already forecasting inflation north of 8% this year. Wheat prices are skyrocketing, and we're looking at massive shortages...
I don't know how much you guys actually realize, but even in places like Germany, you can barely find sunflower oil in stores right now—people are paying over $10 a liter on eBay! Seriously, go check it yourself if you don't believe me.
And don't even get me started on oil and gas. Diesel in Western Europe is hitting $2.50/L, and electricity and heating costs have absolutely exploded. This is going to bleed into every other sector because higher transport costs automatically drive up everything else. Families will have way less cash for vacations, so the tourism industry is going to take a massive hit too.
It’s just a vicious cycle that leads straight back to recession, business bankruptcies, unemployment spikes...
Stop being naive and thinking these sanctions are only hitting Russia.
Gary Wilson said:Personally, I think this kind of panic is being spread needlessly—and frankly, some people are profiting from it.
Russia has to move its surplus wheat and other food supplies somewhere, otherwise they'll face a massive hit.
Plus, storage and maintenance aren't free.
In that scenario, they'd face an even steeper loss. A simple cost-benefit analysis suggests it makes no sense for them to let what they've invested heavily in simply rot. In my view, they not in a position where they can just refuse to sell, unless they intentionally and significantly cut back on their planted acreage.