World Handball Championship: The Final Stretch
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Linda Peterson43 said:Regarding point number one, Vettel is the one at fault. It isn't because he intended to leave space for Kimi, but rather because Max found himself in that position by rushing to get ahead of his teammate at any cost... he had half the track to choose his line... 🙂
Edit: The real issue within Ferrari is what happens if Kimi starts consistently beating his own teammate; I mean, why on earth did they even bring Vettel along then... 🙂 that explains those overly cautious, lukewarm statements regarding their collision...🙂
It was the same in China, and honestly, it still is... both times, Vettel was the one to blame... (Tibi, don't even bother replying to this 🙂 )
As for everything else, Max does things he simply shouldn't—changing his line during braking, driving way too aggressively and dangerously... it feels like watching a teenager playing on a PlayStation, thinking if he "dies," he can just hit reset and try again... he really should have been penalized, but hey, it's Heineken, so I guess that's just how it goes... 🙂
coastalwolf6 said:The man who lives for the race...“Five or six years ago, while Mladen and I were running Formula 1, I sat down for a major interview with Bernie Ecclestone at the Esplanade. Out of pure politeness, I mentioned
– 'Mladen sends his regards.'
Bernie just stared at me, confused
– 'Mladen?'
– 'Jergović, he used to work for you.'
– 'Oh, that Mladen. What is that clown up to these days?'
– 'He’s with us now, on TV, acting as a special Formula 1 analyst.'
– 'An F1 analyst??? You guys must be getting desperate.'
He just waved me off and muttered, 'It's always nothing but trouble with Mladen.'
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stormybadger8 said:Why 🤷
I mean, it’s not like he had zero chance, right? He was leading on the intermediates and Ferrari clearly had the pace...
If he’d actually managed to shake off Felipe Massa, Nico Rosberg, and those other slowpokes, I guess he would've been right on Lewis Hamilton's tail and even ahead of Ricc once he finally exited the pits on fresh intermediates.
Just look at how fast Ricc—who wasn't held up by Massa—was closing in on Hamilton when he was on those fresh intermediates...
http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?p...el Ricciardo
stormybadger8 said:From what I can gather, it’s not just that he blew his chance at third place, but maybe he even threw away a real shot at actually winning the whole thing.🤔
jadeseal7 said:Today was just a perfect example of that. He didn't have any issues with the car at all, really.
Richard Ross11 said:Anyway, Lewis Hamilton just sliced right through that chicane and nobody even blinked...🙂
If this had happened during qualifying, they probably wouldn't have even bothered checking his time...
Charles Lewis2 said:Hey
Been gone for a while. Seems like time just stands still in this place, like we're stuck in some waiting room.
Just one thing. Kimi. He’s sitting at second in the standings right now. Last season he finished fourth, right behind two McLarens—totally expected, nothing anyone could really do about it—and ahead of Vettel. Where did he fail? If we're playing that game, Vettel actually had the worse run. Okay, if the excuse is "he's too old" or whatever, then what's the standard today? Are we judging strictly by the final standings? He’s second now, but when he was fifth, a bunch of self-proclaimed experts were trying to kick him out of NASCAR. Now there are plenty of guys behind him, but nobody mentions them.
Is it just about the total points? When he had fewer points, he was called a fraud, a washed-up drunk, or totally dominated. Why isn't anyone bringing that up now?
Or is it just that second-place finish from the last race? Some people get treated like rookies even when they pull off a brilliant 6th or 7th.
Everyone else seems to have an excuse, and they don't get roasted nearly as hard for mediocre results. It's funny how everyone's quiet all of a sudden.
And let's be real, everything just fell into place for Max today. I'm not taking away his win, but that's just how it went down. I won't pretend the media would be writing the same headlines if Kimi had won like that.
That's it. Someone had to say it.
ruggedhawk20 said:A loser!?
That's interesting. I guess when Ayrton Senna rams into Alain Prost, he isn't some kind of loser.
Or when Sebastian Vettel crashes into Mark Webber, that’s just fine too.
But the second the most exciting driver on the grid today hits his own teammate—then suddenly, he's a loser.
Real great. If we followed your logic, we'd have about 22 Jenson Buttons on the starting grid.
But wait a sec. Even Jenson Button almost took out Sergio Perez once, right? No, he didn't. He just came close. So, I guess he's not a loser either.
rowdyrider12 said:The pit crew absolutely blew it for Verstappen... they totally forgot the tires, or maybe someone just can't count to four...
If they’d actually nailed that pit stop, I guess Sainz might have had a chance to fly past, maybe picking off Palmer within half a lap, and then who knows, maybe even Bottas too..
But honestly, at this rate, they're lucky to scrape even a single point..
Jerry Moore61 said:...we're all just getting worked up over here ...
Jerry Moore61 said:That’s all well and good, I guess, but the real issue is that nothing actually seems to be getting better. If we don't see some pretty radical rule changes soon, Mercedes-Benz is just going to keep dominating forever.
I mean, if you look at it from this angle...
Mercedes basically got a massive head start compared to everyone else. They spent three whole years developing and testing while nobody else was even close. Then, once the rules changed, no one else was allowed to develop anything for two full seasons. So, when you do the math, Mercedes is effectively five years ahead of the rest of the field.
I remember how McLaren was dominant back in the late 80s and early 90s, but they were only truly untouchable for maybe one season at that level.
And sure, Red Bull took four titles in a row, but those weren't exactly easy wins. Red Bull never had a situation where they were pulling a 1.5-second advantage per lap. That’s because the regulations actually let other teams develop their cars enough to catch up to Red Bull.
But since 2014, development has been basically frozen. I mean, honestly, it’s kind of hard to expect anyone to actually catch or pass Mercedes at this point. And then you have these weird qualifying formats being floated around. This current setup just plays right into Mercedes' hands. You get down to five minutes left in Q3, there are only three cars on track, and suddenly there’s all this empty space on the circuit to set an ultra-fast lap.
It’s probably why Mercedes asked to be placed in the last garage in the pits, just so they could be the first ones out of the pit box.
Don't get me wrong, I love motorsports; I've been following Formula 1 for as long as I can remember. I’ve actually made it to over 50 races in the last decade or so, mostly thanks to my brother who’s been deep into F1 for 15 years now.
I don't really root for any specific team, but I think most people—myself included—would love to see a bit more actual competition. It doesn't mean we need twenty different winners in twenty different races, but what we have right now is just a disaster for those of us watching.
Though, if I'm looking at it from a family standpoint, I probably should be rooting for Mercedes. But I’d rather root for Formula 1 to actually feel like racing again, though I highly doubt that’s happening anytime soon. Maybe one day, when someone else finally takes over the whole machine and Bernie Ecclestone finally moves on.
But yeah, I'm afraid we might be waiting a long time.