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urbantinker11 said:Look, I don't have any skin in this game personally, but the connection between his diet, his willpower, and actually beating the disease is pretty glaringly obvious. If you aren't buying it, hey, that's your prerogative. I've heard his story firsthand a few times now, and you can't just argue away the fact that his nutrition played a role in his recovery, regardless of what you might think about the whole thing. 😉

As a matter of fact, I knew that Louis Armstrong actually started a foundation to help people fight cancer, and if you look through their testimonials, you can clearly see the link between what people ate and how they healed.

Alecia Hardwick

"...You eat the right foods and you just keep your spirits up. During chemo, you should eat a lot of green vegetables; a lot of green vegetables. They tell you to eat fruit, but I really wasn’t a fruit eater. I would supplement it with fruit juices: orange juice, apple juice, peach juice, and it really kept me going. Drink plenty of water....

etc.

ps: Sarah Cruz2, you might actually find some better advice on these official sites than what we're tossing around here on the forum; sometimes you just have to put in the legwork to find the best solutions. 🙂

wiredsailor7 said:1) Are you just repeating manufacturers' talking points? Like some kind of corporate slogan?
Who actually stands to gain here? The manufacturer uses the Armstrong chain for their own marketing, while people like you just swallow it whole.

2) Who do you think you are, acting like some "sponsored influencer," arrogantly deciding where everyone else (in this case, cancer patients) is going wrong??

3) Look, I'm telling you simply: take this bullshit somewhere else!
Go buy an ad slot on a Local TV station and spread your nonsense there.

1) On the official website for the Armstrong chain, his sponsors are listed, including PowerBar as a nutritional company that produces dietary supplements.
I don't have any skin in their game, but the link between his diet, his willpower, and his victory over illness is pretty damn obvious. If you don't want to believe it, fine—that's your prerogative. I've heard his story several times, and the fact that nutrition played a role in his fight against sickness isn't something you can just wish away, regardless of what you think about it. 😉
You seem incapable of grasping how much Armstrong might appreciate a sponsor who helped him through that part of his battle (via nutrition), so you resort to phrases like "using it for marketing." It’s honestly a bit dense, and frankly, it doesn't matter who benefits more in the end—is it Armstrong, who is still here, or the people successfully selling things to folks like you? 😉

2) "Arrogantly deciding..." ????

The only person making decisions here is the individual actually facing the situation. Our various opinions are just meant to help them reach their OWN conclusion. For that reason, I don't feel "arrogant" for speaking my mind, even if I have to stand by it despite the provocations and insinuations you're throwing around.

I was merely echoing sentiments that have already been voiced, and I agree with them (so quit whining). I went through a similar situation with my father; because of a doctor's error—or maybe just negligence—he ended up in a very similar spot. By the time the "natural remedy" crowd got involved, it was too late, but back then I was just a kid and didn't process things with the perspective I have today. 🙂
I'm telling you, he would be alive today if I had known then what I know now. Someone can agree with my view or they can not, but I'm not going to let anyone talk down to me or dismiss what I'm saying, alright?

To wrap this up, I actually found myself agreeing with your sentence: "Just one more thing: you won't find a universal solution; find the golden mean among all opinions and advice." Because I truly believe that too (and not just to suck up to YOU), though it seems like YOU haven't quite grasped the weight of the words you wrote. Maybe try reading them again. 😉 😁

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Jamie Clark74 said:and that’s left over on another thread... if you don't count what I take for pain, I'm at about 25 tablets, so we're looking at 30+ pills a day

Asbestosis

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I went through your thread regarding Asbestosis, and I think I get where you're coming from.
Honestly, your drive to warn others about the fallout from asbestos exposure is something I really respect.

If I’ve got this right, you were working around asbestos back in the day—pre-'87—while smoking and carrying an extra 20 pounds?
Then it hit you, the reality of the situation set in, and you were faced with a choice: quit the cigarettes and drop the weight, or face the music. You did the work, but you're still left dealing with the consequences, aren't you?

Twenty years is a lifetime. Back then, the connection between nutrition and systemic health wasn't nearly as obvious as it is now. The doctors graduating in that era didn't have a clue about it, and frankly, some of them still don't today. 😢

The body has this incredible capacity to repair itself if we actually give it the tools to do so—if we provide the raw materials it needs. Unfortunately, our bodies aren't exactly great communicators; they don't send us a manual listing exactly what's missing. That's why scientists have to spend decades digging through data just to try and decode the signals our bodies are sending, hoping to catch up before things go south.

Did you know that the cells in your soft organs can essentially regenerate entirely once a year?
Did you know your bone cells renew every seven years, meaning you basically have a whole new skeleton every seven years?
And did you know your skin regenerates roughly every seven months? It’s made of seven layers, and each individual layer cycles out every 28 days.

It’s all about potential.!!!
These are opportunities we can choose to take, or we can just let them pass us by.
We can leverage them if we actually know how to navigate this polluted world to find something truly pure and organic—something genuinely healthy, free of synthetic junk, and actually effective. 🙂

I managed to find that. It’s almost silly; when someone strikes gold, they don't exactly shout it from the rooftops because people tend to stop believing them. It takes time for things that seem absurd or impossible to be accepted as common sense, or as something that has become absolutely essential.

Whether you'll ever see it that way, I honestly don't know. I have plenty of time, and many people do too, but do *you*? ... You don't have to take my word for it. You’re well-read, you know English, so do your own deep dive into everything you find. Just put in the effort, because you have very good reasons to do so, and time isn't exactly on your side.

Some people wonder why I bother trying here.
Look, I know I can't fix the whole world, but if I can change—or even save—just one life, then the world has changed for that person. If you haven't experienced that, it's hard to wrap your head around.

Even if you think I'm being pushy, foolish, or some kind of salesman, please understand that I have zero intention of selling you anything. I truly just want the best for you as you fight through these illnesses and the issues that are weighing you down.

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wiredsailor7 said:Just one more thing—you aren't going to find some magic, one-size-fits-all answer out there. Your best bet is to find that middle ground where all the different opinions and pieces of advice meet.

I'm with you on that, 👍

Jamie Clark74 said:An open letter to the moderators!

Count me in on the protest!

Jamie Clark74 said:I actually took a break from the health section for a while to avoid reading all the nonsense some self-proclaimed experts try to peddle here.

I’ve been trying to do the same, but I just can't seem to stay away.

Jamie Clark74 said:Maybe we should just open a separate sub-forum for these types of people and their followers—either under Health or just its own thing entirely. It would stop people who are just trying to force their propaganda about "cures" using stuff that isn't even medically recognized from being banned in the Health section.

When we say "medications," we mean actual drugs used to treat illnesses. Since this sub-forum is dedicated to "Health," I’d suggest creating a new section called "Illnesses." You see, health is a much broader concept than just dealing with diseases; true health is the absence of disease, and frankly, it's even more than that.🙂

Jamie Clark74 said:On top of everything else, for any drugs to be released for production, they have to pass nutritional oversight and get official approval.

Vitamins and various byproducts don't require that kind of approval, so they aren't considered medical products... they're supplements.

It's not the pharmaceutical companies that regulate drugs; it's the Department of Health (or at least, that's how it's supposed to work).😉

Drugs aren't food, but nutrition can certainly be a deciding factor when it comes to ultimate wellness and recovery.

Vitamins derived from plants shouldn't even be categorized as "medications"—they simply aren't. Any reputable nutritional company producing them operates under specific approvals from top-tier national institutions, backed by actual science rather than just folk herbalism or alternative medicine.🙂

Jamie Clark74 said:They were outright deceiving people by putting glucosamine and chelates in supplements... it wasn't shark cartilage they were using, it was cow bone, and a well-known company ended up getting shut down for it.

Exactly!👍
The fewer scammers and frauds we have around, the better. It leaves room for actual quality to shine after twenty-five years.😁

Jamie Clark74 said:I’ve actually been meaning to write up my thoughts on Alternative medicine for quite some time now...
but life keeps getting in the way, forcing me to put other projects on the back burner just so I can finally sit down and get this thread started![/B]

Hopefully, your new topic will actually get more eyes on it than all these previous ones have.

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ps: Jamie Clark74, don't go getting worked up; it really isn't good for your heart 😢 (especially considering you're in a high-risk category given your current build)

Jamie Clark74 said:You clearly haven't the slightest clue what her fitness level is actually like, otherwise you wouldn't be sitting there typing out this nonsense;

When it comes to pernicious anemia, there really isn't any other way around it—you’re looking at lifelong B12 supplementation. There isn't some magic pill or a one-time cure waiting around the corner; once your body loses the ability to absorb that vitamin properly, you basically become best friends with B12 injections or high-dose oral supplements for the rest of your days. It’s just how the biology works.
Regular injections. Just when you thought life couldn't get any more repetitive, you’ve got to deal with the whole routine of scheduled shots. It’s one of those things that just becomes part of the background noise of existence, isn't it? Like a recurring subscription you never actually signed up for, only instead of a streaming service, it's medical maintenance.

And you’d actually want this guy—this total amateur who clearly doesn't know his head from his elbows—trying to prescribe Vitamin B? Honestly, just get him off this Forum already. He has absolutely no business being here.

So, you brought up those initial B12 injections... I mean, look, we all know B12 is just a vitamin, but what exactly are you trying to get at here? What's the end goal?
Just as a quick heads-up for everyone here—let’s not get ahead of ourselves: vitamins aren't exactly medications. 😉 )

Calling someone a "thug" just because they happen to share your opinion is really just a reflection of your own culture. 😁

Jamie Clark74 said:Think about this: eighty years ago, the average life expectancy was hovering somewhere between 55 and 65. Back then, "natural remedies" weren't exactly doing much heavy lifting when it came to keeping people around. Before we had vaccines, or things like penicillin and treatments for tetanus, medical science was essentially hitting a brick wall. You can look at how little "natural care" could actually do for someone battling tuberculosis as a prime example, but that’s just one case. We’re talking about hundreds of other diseases that simply couldn't be touched until modern medicine stepped in.

Nowadays, we aren't really seeing people dropping like flies from infectious diseases the way they used to; most of those battles have largely been won, provided you look at what’s actually taking us out these days. The way we look at illness today feels like we’re staring through a cracked lens. It isn't just about catching a bug or dealing with a seasonal flu anymore; it feels like our entire modern lifestyle is essentially a slow-motion collision with our own biology. We live in an era where we’ve mastered the art of being sedentary while simultaneously overstimulating our nervous systems with constant digital noise, and then we act surprised when our bodies start sending out distress signals. It’s a bit like trying to run a high-performance engine on low-grade fuel while keeping the car parked in a garage with no ventilation. You can't expect the machine to hold up forever. We see this massive surge in metabolic issues and chronic inflammation, things that aren't just "bad luck" but are often the direct result of how we eat, how we move—or don't move—and how we manage stress. It’s almost as if we’ve built a civilization that is fundamentally at odds with the very organisms we inhabit. There’s also this strange, modern paradox regarding how we treat these ailments. On one hand, you have the heavy hitters of big pharma and mainstream medicine, which are incredible at crisis management but sometimes feel like they're just putting a Band-Aid on a sinking ship. Then, on the other side, you have the explosion of alternative medicine enthusiasts who promise a miracle cure in a bottle, often peddling products through multi-level marketing schemes that feel more like a pyramid than a wellness plan. Navigating the middle ground is where it gets tricky. We’re caught between institutionalized medicine that can feel cold and impersonal, and these trendy, cult-like wellness movements that lean heavily on anecdotal evidence rather than hard science. Finding actual balance—real, sustainable health—feels less like following a single prescription and more like trying to navigate a minefield of misinformation and conflicting advice. It’s a lot to parse through when you're just trying to feel human again. And honestly... what exactly is their motivation for showing up in the first place?

Jamie Clark74 said:So, just to give you a little context regarding my own background—I’ve actually put in about 18 months of solid experience on this.
Back when I was applying for medical school, they didn't just hand you a white coat because you showed up; you actually had to prove you knew your stuff by passing grueling exams in anatomy and biology first.
Back in my working days, I actually went through formal training as an officer for worker injury and rights, along with serving as a supervisor for asbestos abatement projects.
I still find myself showing up whenever a few of my professors reach out to invite me to guest lectures they know I’ll actually care about.

It looks like you all have a much better handle on this than I did. Dr. David Heber (I suppose you’re looking for a bit of background, or perhaps a rundown of who I am and what I stand for. It’s not quite a formal autobiography—I don't have a memoir sitting on a shelf somewhere waiting for a publisher—but if you want the long version, I can certainly give you the highlights. I tend to view things through a rather skeptical lens, preferring to look past the glossy marketing and get down to the actual mechanics of how these massive organizations operate. I’ve always had a bit of a fascination with how certain groups manage to maintain such tight, almost paramilitary-like structures while claiming to be just about wellness or community. It’s a curious thing to watch, really. I like to dig into the details, pull at the loose threads, and see if the whole sweater unravels. I'm not one for short, snappy soundbites. If we're going to talk about something, let's actually talk about it. Whether it's dissecting the way multi-level marketing schemes try to reinvent themselves or debating the nuances of public health guidelines from the World Health Organization, I prefer to take my time. I like to lay out the facts, provide a few analogies to make sense of the chaos, and let the logic speak for itself. You won't find much hype here—just a steady, somewhat dry attempt to make sense of the world as it actually is, rather than how some corporate press release wants you to believe it is.Well, I'll be damned. Huge congratulations to you! 😁

Jamie Clark74 said:Look, I know my way around my own health and nutrition better than most.

I see it! 😎

Kenneth Alvarez37 said:@urbantinker11/">@@urbantinker11, you’d basically turn medicine into a religion if you had the chance... and honestly, that just doesn't work.

I’d argue the exact opposite—it’s the people who turn medicine into a religion, placing their faith in doctors even more blindly than they do in God. 🙂 😁

At the end of the day, you really ought to trust your own gut and your own logic, but that’s where most people stumble; it’s much easier to just follow someone else's lead than it is to actually sit down and think for yourself. 😉 😁

Kenneth Alvarez37 said:When you're talking about B12 absorption, sure, maybe you can't isolate it from whole foods, but once it hits the bloodstream via injection, the body can actually put it to work...

Exactly, and it’s the same logic with an IV drip; when someone’s system is too compromised to process nutrients normally, they turn to an infusion as a sort of shortcut.

Think about liquid FOOD—you know, the kind packed with all the micros and macros—traveling through the digestive tract. It shares those same bio-assimilative properties, making it easier for the body to digest and extract what it needs without the usual heavy lifting required by solid meals, if you catch my drift.

So, "cellular nutrition" is essentially just a streamlined method, a more efficient way for the body to soak up necessary nutrients while providing the peace of mind that we’re actually getting everything we need.
Now, you could point to the top experts and scientists in this field as a guarantee of quality—meaning they hit those ideal ratios—but honestly, even their stamp of approval wouldn't mean much to me if I didn't already know how this works in practice. Besides, since you haven't personally experienced what I have, there’s really no point in us debating it in such a limited fashion. 😉

Jamie Clark74 said:Even this guy using a Hummer sent me a DM claiming he could "cure" both my wife and me... meanwhile, he doesn't have half the medical insight I do.

The guy was actually naive enough to suggest he could fix my wife's B12 deficiency through supplements... when he clearly hasn't realized she has a legitimate medical condition where her body simply can't absorb B12 from food. She has to rely on B12 injections every three months for the rest of her life.

It’s just a small glimpse into the world of charlatans and scammers... but unfortunately, people all over the country fall for it and pay a premium for absolutely nothing.

In reality, you rarely even need vitamins if you're eating a proper diet.

Skeptic

- So, are you only a skeptic now because nothing has worked for you yet? You mentioned previously that you've tried everything under the sun, which implies you weren't much of a skeptic before this, right?

- There’s likely a physiological reason why your wife’s body can’t absorb B12 orally (even if it works via injection 😕). Sometimes the body requires vitamins in their ideal, natural ratios; taking random vitamins here and there without balance often results in zero effect...
Just look at people dealing with iron deficiencies—how many of them see absolutely no improvement in their bloodwork despite taking regular iron supplements? ..
I personally know about a dozen people who could tell you the same story; they had identical issues, but once they started taking ALL the micronutrients every single day (in those perfectly balanced proportions) for 90 days, their bloodwork came back perfect. Just a reminder—blood cells regenerate roughly every 90 days... 🙂

- "You rarely even need vitamins if you're eating a proper diet."
That might have held water twenty years ago, but today, vitamins and minerals are essential dietary supplements—a fact the World Health Organization has been stating clearly since early 2004.
It's unfortunate you're living under that misconception.
Natural vitamins (derived from plants) and synthetic ones (manufactured in labs) function very differently, and it's been proven that cellular absorption is a completely different process for each.

- Using the term "cure" here is fundamentally wrong. No one can "cure" you with herbal products... what happens is that your body can finally start functioning correctly and arrange its own "building blocks" the way it was designed to, provided you give it food that is perfect—containing all necessary macro and micronutrients. You already noted that the body is the most perfect machine imaginable... I'll let you draw your own conclusion there. 😎

- To call someone stupid, a fraud, or a charlatan, one would actually need to know them personally, and for that reason, I won't be making such claims about anyone.. 😁

ps: Don't take this too personally, but you've become a slave to your own "knowledge." Keep researching and learning just like you always have, just perhaps slightly shift the direction of that research. 👋

Sandra Hayes88 said:How much do you guys actually know about these Multi-level marketing cults—specifically Herbalife—and the whole psychological setup involving the cult mentality and how followers behave?

It seems to me that you all are working overtime every single day to strengthen this little "anti-progress" cult of yours right here... 😉 😁

hiddenviper9 said:I posted a piece over on Spirituality about the cyclist Lance Armstrong—it’s one of those posts that didn't exactly trigger a massive debate or anything. 😕 It’s just plain sad.
His burning desire to become the world's greatest cyclist actually managed to overpower his illness.
Well, there you go—that might actually help.

You're absolutely right—it can certainly play a part, but let's not fall into the trap of thinking that was his only secret weapon in beating the illness. A massive portion of that victory actually comes down to his strict athletic nutrition, specifically all those nutritional supplements he integrated into his daily diet. 👍

quietraven14 said:Another thing to consider: you really have to play both sides of the fence from the jump, balancing conventional medicine with alternative approaches simultaneously.
I haven't had a chance to catch up on every single post here, but if you're looking for some direction, I’d suggest looking into a few things: beet juice, papaya juice, and aloe vera.

We even gave macrobiotics a shot, though we didn't see much of a payoff in the end. It’s one of those things that feels incredibly individual, though—what works for one person might do absolutely nothing for someone else. I've actually heard about quite a few cases where people successfully transitioned to it, provided they took it slow and didn't try to overhaul their entire life overnight. You have to ease into it rather than going in aggressively.

We actually made the trip out to see Plečko in that suburban town, but we were already in the final stages by then, so it’s hard to imagine anything could have really made a difference at that point.

Basically, it’s just what we’ve been talking about all along—you really have to cut back on the sugar and fats in your diet, if only to starve out those damn cancer cells.

quietraven14, I’m right there with you, and I honestly couldn't agree more with your point. You really have to hit both sides from day one—you need to be running with the conventional medicine and the alternative stuff side-by-side right from the jump. 👍
The biggest mistake most people make is waiting until the very last second to actually look into "home remedies" or making any real changes to their diet. It’s always that same pattern—they exhaust every other option first, and only when they've hit a wall do they finally decide to consider an anti-cancer diet or some natural approach. They treat lifestyle shifts like a backup plan instead of the foundation, which is honestly where they go wrong from the start. 😢

Sarah Cruz2 said:So, we finally tracked down an alternative practitioner, and now we’re sitting here sipping herbal teas while planning a trip to see him next week. Here's the catch, though: he's basically given us an ultimatum—it’s either conventional chemo and radiation, or it’s him. Since we’ve already kicked things off with the chemo and radiation route, he's a bit noncommittal about how much he can actually help. It makes sense when you think about it; they're working with completely opposing energies. One side is designed to kill, and his approach is all about lifting you up.

She drank a bottle of Aloe vera, which was fine, I guess. Nothing to write home about. Now we've moved on to Taheebo.

Her iron levels are incredibly low right now, which apparently signals a pretty dire situation and a crashing immune system—at least, that's what my deep dives into the internet seem to suggest. I’m honestly terrified that hitting her with aggressive chemotherapy and radiation is just going to finish her off. I'm completely in the dark about how the whole process unfolds, how long these treatments actually last, or even what happens during the breaks between sessions...

You have to wrap your head around the fact that aloe acts as a sort of internal janitor, sweeping out all that heavy chemical residue left behind by things like chemotherapy. It’s not some overnight miracle cure, either; you can't exactly expect aloe vera to completely reset your entire system in just thirty days—that would be a bit much to ask, wouldn't it? It needs to become a staple part of your daily routine. Think of it as a way to systematically dismantle inflammation throughout the body, calming those processes down before they can spiral out of control, while simultaneously taking the fight to the various viruses and bacteria trying to tear your system apart.
Alopecia can definitely take a toll on your immune system, though it can also be a factor in boosting it, but honestly, what your sister really needs is actual food. Her body needs proper fuel so her healthy cells have the strength to fight off the diseased ones. Think of antioxidants from fruits and vegetables as a sort of defensive shield protecting those healthy cells from getting overwhelmed.

Peter Taylor63 said:Not too long ago, there was this segment on FOX about a guy the doctors had basically given up on. He ended up pulling through by using some sort of traditional remedy—a specific combination of everyday ingredients, if I recall correctly (I think coffee was one of them). He actually shared the recipe during the broadcast. If anyone is looking for more details, your best bet might be to shoot an email to the local news station; they could probably dig through their archives or you could try reaching out to them some other way...

There’s a massive variety of plants and herbal combinations out there that can influence how diseases progress, but let's look at the bigger picture here...

Modern nutrition has essentially taken the ancient wisdom of Chinese medicine regarding medicinal herbs and paired it with cutting-edge technology. This allows for the creation of increasingly sophisticated plant-based products that can provide significant support in situations like this.

The body requires food—specifically, all the essential nutrients in perfect balance—every single day to repair itself and bounce back from the onslaught of a disease. Once you grasp how an IV works to facilitate rapid recovery, you might start to understand the logic behind "cellular nutrition" (MacGregor, James Newman).

ANLOKIN said:I haven't caught up on every single post, so I'm not sure if diet has come up yet, but honestly, any effort made is pretty much wasted if you don't overhaul what you're eating. We're talking fruits, vegetables, whole grains, legumes, yogurt... You really need to cut out meat, dairy, sweets, and processed junk. There are hundreds of books out there dedicated to an anti-cancer diet; read up on it and build a solid plan.

I'm with you there. People have all sorts of different experiences and eventually realize that nutrition is the cornerstone of cellular regeneration. However, when things get truly serious, you can't just wing it; you need a professional approach. The real experts in this field are nutrition scientists. 😉

Sarah Cruz2 said:She's lost so much weight; she looks completely frail now. Her iron levels are also incredibly low. We want her to be consuming nothing but fresh, living foods, but she can barely manage to swallow anything at this point. You can see the muscle wasting is becoming evident, and I'm genuinely worried about whether she'll be able to recover within the next year or two...
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The most efficient path to recovery often comes through cellular nutrition. You should really look into the stories of people who have completely transformed their lives by following that path.