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Cancer diagnosis - please help!

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Sarah Cruz2 Sarah Cruz2 MemberOP
20 messages
joined Nov 2004
#1 ·
Hello everyone,

A few days ago, my younger sister was diagnosed with colon cancer, and unfortunately, it has metastasized quite extensively. The doctors had to perform a colectomy, but there is still a great deal left to address. Our whole family is in a state of absolute shock; we are completely out of our depth here.

She is barely eating at all—it’s almost impossible for her—and she feels incredibly weak. In order for her to even begin chemotherapy or radiation, she really needs to build up some strength. I feel quite lost regarding what to do. They actually took her off the IV because they thought she was finally eating, but honestly, whatever little she manages to consume is practically invisible.

PLEASE help!
How soon after surgery can someone typically start radiation and chemo? I am terrified that we are racing against the clock here.

Does anyone know of an alternative practitioner who has actually achieved real results?

Regarding Aloe Vera, what form should I be looking for? Is it in capsules, or perhaps a syrup? What specifically works, and how should it be administered?

Any advice or information would be so deeply appreciated!!!

THANK YOU

p.s.
How does one go about getting an appointment at the MD Anderson Cancer Center? Do you need a specific connection or referral? Also, has anyone ever utilized their family counseling services?

p.s.
I am asking the moderator, please do not delete this post. PLEASE!
Taylor Brown61 Taylor Brown61 Member
24 messages
joined Oct 2004
#2 ·
😢

Hey, can you grab this thread and cross-post it over to the Health forum too?
Bryan Murphy84 Bryan Murphy84 Member
10 messages
joined Apr 2004
#3 ·
You don't actually need a referral to visit the MD Anderson Cancer Center; a standard insurance authorization is enough. At least, that’s how it worked for my mother once her diagnosis came in. She had surgery, stayed there for a bit, and went straight into chemo. After the first round, she headed right home, and for every subsequent session, she’d just show up, get the treatment, and head back... though, keep in mind we're talking about breast cancer, so I can't speak to how things work for colon cancer 😢

As for what she was using in massive quantities, it was beet juice and Taheebo tea—if that's how you spell it—which I believe is brewed in distilled water. She also took Megamin.

To deal with the nausea during chemo, she used Zofran tablets. It helped a little, but honestly, not nearly enough. She couldn't eat anything, and we weren't even allowed to cook anything in her apartment because even the slightest scent would make her feel sick. 😢

As for any alternative remedies that might actually help, I unfortunately don't have any ideas.

Sending a lot of love to everyone out there 🙂
Larry Lewis2 Larry Lewis2 Active Member
74 messages
joined Apr 2004
#4 ·
I know someone who might be able to help her out—maybe just a little, maybe a lot, honestly I can't say for sure. All I know is that this person is honest enough to admit they can't step up if they aren't able to.

Shoot me a private message if you want more details.
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
32 messages
joined Dec 2004
#5 ·
Bryan Murphy84 said:What she was drinking tons of was beet juice and Taheebo tea

I'm with you on this! Carrots and beets. I guess the main thing is just boosting your immunity and cutting out sugar and heavy fats. Maybe try going veggie or macrobiotic. I heard omega-3s are good too. And maybe some Aloe vera or Noni and stuff.
Megan Morales5 Megan Morales5 Active Member
86 messages
joined Dec 2004
#6 ·
To boost up your immune system, just grate some fresh beets, an apple, and some carrots—ideally if you have a juicer handy—and mix it all together. Drink about half a liter or more of that every single day. One of my older relatives actually used this to "bounce back" after every flare-up... they were dealing with multiple sclerosis.

And honestly, forget about suddenly jumping headfirst into vegetarianism. This isn't the time for someone to overhaul their entire diet overnight, especially not by switching exclusively to plants. You can still eat meat—it doesn't have to be some breaded schnitzel; think boiled chicken breast, turkey, fish, or even a small piece of lean veal.
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
32 messages
joined Dec 2004
#7 ·
Megan Morales5 said:I don't think switching to vegetarianism is the move right now. It’s probably not the best time for someone to flip their whole diet upside down, especially going strictly plant-based. You can still have meat—it doesn't have to be some fried cutlet; maybe just boiled chicken breast, turkey, fish, or even a little lean veal.

I didn't say they should switch overnight. But I guess cholesterol helps cancer grow, or at least that's how it seems to me and what's been proven. Maybe some "lighter" meats are okay, but I'd definitely steer clear of pork... or anything fried, for that matter. Also, about beets—they might not actually boost immunity; I heard it's more like the color itself acts as the healing agent. Plus, you get the minerals, which are fine and all.

Btw, it's not that rare to see people make a difference through a macrobiotic diet. But yeah, everyone needs a slightly different approach; what works for one person might not work for everyone.
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
446 messages
joined Mar 2024
#8 ·
Peter Taylor63 said:cholesterol actually helps cancer grow

apparently even her color is supposedly the substance that 'cures' everything.

😱 😱 😱

Man, you're getting seriously dangerous with this kind of nonsense...
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
32 messages
joined Dec 2004
#9 ·
Jose Miller3 said:😱 😱 😱

Man, you've really become something else with all this nonsense

I don't think this thread is meant for venting your frustrations or whatever you're going through regarding me... if you actually want to help, then help her, otherwise it's probably better to just stay quiet...👎
Peter Taylor63 Peter Taylor63 Member
32 messages
joined Dec 2004
#10 ·
Basically, the main priority is just making sure they meet the requirements so they can get started on chemo, almost for sure...
Douglas Doyle49 Douglas Doyle49 Newcomer
1 message
joined May 2005
#11 ·
My dad’s been battling cancer for four years now..
Sadly, they can't cure him because the metastases hit his lymph nodes and now they've spread to his lungs..
He did chemo for a couple of years and spent the whole time taking all sorts of natural stuff, which honestly helped him handle the treatments physically way better ..
Let me try to remember everything he was taking:
- Taheebo tea (already mentioned above)
- Aloe vera (you can grab 100% juice at a pharmacy.. at least you can here in Germany)
- You can actually make some kind of remedy from the aloe vera plant itself (like the cactus thing).. if you want the recipe, I'll ask my mom and shoot you a DM.. we also have a few cacti at home, so if I ever head over to the States, I could bring some for you
- Quail eggs (don't cook them or anything, just drink them raw)
- Swedish twig? I think that's what it's called
- Beets
- Ugh, I can't recall, but something from bees too..

Also, my brother's wife had cancer and luckily she beat it.. she used to make this mushroom juice or something.. if you're interested, I can ask her exactly what she used

- Try to cut down on meat, or stop eating it altogether if possible..
- Macrobiotics

I'm heading out to visit my folks this Wednesday, so I should be able to give you more specifics over the weekend if you want.. I'll be calling my family today and tomorrow, so I can get the full details for you then...

And one thing that's huge: stay positive! (I know that sounds easy to say when things suck, but trust me, it matters so much.. she can't give up, she's gotta fight)

I'm wishing her all the luck and strength in the world, and honestly, the same goes for all of you, because I know firsthand how heavy this is for her and everyone around her...
wearywolf26 wearywolf26 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Mar 2006
#12 ·
Try to get some capsules or something containing turmeric (derived from the Curcuma longa root). I know you can find the powder used as a spice in local grocery stores, but capsules typically offer a much higher concentration of active ingredients. Apparently, it has anti-tumor properties. Do some research, look into it, and good luck!
Justin Gonzalez87 Justin Gonzalez87 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2005
#13 ·
Megan Morales5 said:To boost your immune system, just grate up some fresh beets, an apple, and some carrots.

Use about 7 ounces each of carrot, apple, and fresh beet—just toss them all into a juicer. Add enough honey to match the amount of juice you get out. Drink a few spoonfuls a day.
Supposedly great for immunity—I say "supposedly" since I haven't tried it myself, but a local herbalist recommended it.

Good luck. 🙂
Megan Morales5 Megan Morales5 Active Member
86 messages
joined Dec 2004
#14 ·
Justin Gonzalez87 said:Just toss 20 decagrams of carrots, apples, and fresh beets into a juicer. Add enough honey to match whatever amount of juice you end up with. Take a few spoonfuls every day.
Supposedly great for the immune system—though I say "supposedly" because I haven't actually tried it myself... just what some herbalist recommended.

Good luck 🙂

Thanks for the tip 🙂 honey goes in there too, I forgot to mention that.
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
446 messages
joined Jan 2024
#15 ·
I was browsing online and came across some info suggesting that whey protein—the stuff athletes usually grab to bulk up—might actually boost the immune system and help manage various conditions, including cancer.

http://www.agram89.com/?ID=24

http://www.healthe-livingnews.com/ar...y_protein.html
Angela Martin2 Angela Martin2 Member
34 messages
joined Sep 2011
#16 ·
Sarah Cruz2,

Had some cancer cases pop up in my extended family...
Following a macrobiotic diet really helped us out.

I know one alternative option.
Personally, she’s cured every single ailment I’ve ever gone to her for.
And I know she can handle tumors too.
It’s not even that "alternative" in the sense of—you know, just random stuff.
Thinking about it now, it isn't really alternative at all.
Anyway, DM me for the details.
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
446 messages
joined Mar 2024
#17 ·
Megan Morales5 said:Thanks for adding that bit 🙂—oh, and honey is part of it too, I totally blanked on that.

In our case, while we were prepping and taking that tonic, the oncologists actually advised us NOT to add any honey. Their reasoning was super clear and honestly made total sense: honey is packed with nutrients, really high in stuff that nutritionists love. Every single cell in our body gets something out of it, especially those fast-moving ones. And which ones are those? The metastasis cells, of course. A few different doctors suggested cutting out the honey entirely, especially since my mom was eating pretty well right up until the end...

So, yeah, just sharing my experience... just so you guys know...
Betty Bennett10 Betty Bennett10 Active Member
92 messages
joined May 2005
#18 ·
Sarah Cruz2, offering advice in a situation like this feels incredibly heavy because there’s a certain weight of responsibility that comes with it. I would personally be very inclined to recommend macrobiotics, but if you decide to go down that path, you have to be realistic: it requires a significant commitment, both in terms of money and the sheer amount of time you'll pour into it. It’s essential to seek out consultations with macrobiotic teachers to develop a structured plan for your sister; they will almost certainly insist that whoever is handling the cooking completes specific training courses. There is also the possibility they might suggest bypassing chemotherapy altogether, which is an immensely difficult decision to weigh. That said, if you want to explore this further, you could look for the book "anti-cancer diet" by Michi Kushi; for local resources, you can reach out to the Macronow center located at 72 Main Street. The person you'd be speaking with is Zlatko Pejić.
Megan Morales5 Megan Morales5 Active Member
86 messages
joined Dec 2004
#19 ·
Jose Miller3 said:While we were prepping and drinking that concoction, our oncologists actually advised us NOT to add honey. The reasoning was pretty straightforward—and honestly, quite logical: honey is incredibly nutrient-dense, packed with all sorts of nutritional value. Every single cell in our bodies benefits from it, especially the ones that divide at lightning speed. And which cells are those? Metastatic cells, of course. Several doctors suggested cutting out honey entirely, especially since my mom had such a good appetite right up until the very end...

So, there's my experience, just so you guys are aware...

Hmm, makes sense.
Sarah Cruz2 Sarah Cruz2 MemberOP
20 messages
joined Nov 2004
#20 ·
Thank you all for the comments; everyone is more than welcome here! I especially value those who have gone through this themselves. There is a whole other layer to this regarding psychology and the weight of family obligations, though I don't find any of it particularly difficult to handle. What worries me more is how the elderly relatives seem to be suffocating her and making her cry; I have this nagging impression that they might actually cause her harm. If it were within my power, I would gladly forbid them from visiting, just so she could have some peace.

I won't back down, and neither will she.

Quickly, regarding the honey—sugar should be avoided entirely, so I assume honey is off-limits as well. It probably just encourages the rapid spread and division of cells....

I'll move on. Cats wrote something quite profound to me—that she simply needs someone to make her feel safe and loved. She is terrified because she feels she is reaching the end of her life. It’s easy to dismiss our own fears, but I can't help but wonder if things had to reach this point just so I could finally tell her how much I love her. 😢

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