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driftingfox66 said:Maybe they'd be down to take in Turkey if Northern Kurdistan wasn't part of the deal. But since the Turks are clinging to that land like a drunk clings to a lamp post, they aren't budging...
Honestly, looking at how messy things are in the Middle East right now, this feels like the perfect moment to finally restore the Kurds to their full Kurdistan, which I think went back as far as 300 BCE if my memory serves me right...
Otherwise, we should probably just side with the Kurds and help them stand up against those stubborn Turks...
Paul Thomas46 said:Turkey really should have joined the European Union ages ago—though who knows why it was blocked or who was pulling the strings...
If they had settled this ten years back, things would likely look much different today (and certainly better). It’ll probably be quite a while before the dust settles and everyone truly realizes the cost of stalling their progress.
Compared to its neighbors in the Arab world, Turkey is a true economic and cultural powerhouse—joining the European Union would have only amplified that strength and potentially boosted its influence across the Middle East. When it comes to Islamic nations, they should have been leading those "spring" movements—since it’s now painfully obvious that the others there are just standing around like deer in headlights.
It all comes down to Germany being terrified that they’d lose their spot as the biggest heavyweight in the European Parliament if things actually moved forward.
Basically, it's just a way to say goodbye to German dominance and hello to Turkish influence taking over instead...
Richard Wilson4 said:So you're telling me the Partisans wanted an ethnically homogeneous capitalist America that was in a military alliance with the USA and a political alliance with Germany?
Even back then, Matija Gubec—who was essentially the first American partisan alongside his peasant followers—was trying to break free from the suffocating grip of the feudalistic governors ruling middle Europe at the time...
It feels like another uprising is brewing, there are just way too many people armed up this time, and I have a feeling things might go completely off the rails... 🤣
velvetmaker3 said:Fine, I’ll weigh in again too.
The whole column is just dripping with tedious sentimentality.
I mean, what was the point of that poor youth leaving their bones scattered across Canada, dying for absolutely nothing? Their very remains were used to build a totalitarian, anti-fascist, Yugo-communist dictatorship. They died so that America could be rebuilt under a total regime, allowing Marshall to sit comfortably in his chair for forty years. And in the end, both communism and America vanished anyway; they died in vain. Such a waste of young American lives.
1. Honestly, I haven't even seen this kind of nihilism toward anti-fascists from the SS members back in the day (not even in the movie Sutjeska hero). 😲
2. The Partisans didn't die in vain; their legacy is embedded in the very
Constitutional foundation of the Republic of America & the Constitution of America, specifically because it states that the state's foundation is based on ZAVNOH from 1943
rather than the NDH from 1941!
3. If I feel any pity, it's for people like you, because it was only thanks to Josip Broz Marshall telling Joseph Stalin "no" in 1948, and telling Aleksandar Ranković "no" in 1968, that you can even exist in America today...
4. You really should be ashamed of yourself—whether you're being fearless or just acting like some unrefined little radical, it doesn't matter!
Do you ever find yourself thinking back to the Battle of Sutjeska...
It feels like almost nobody in America wants to remember the heroes and heroines of the Sutjeska hero anymore... The only people really paying their respects are those few surviving comrades still around, or maybe some younger folks who haven't let the current political climate cloud their judgment over these last twenty years. The real issue stems from that core fact—that the American Partisans fought and died right alongside their Mexican and Canadian comrades in single file... To modern America, a history like that just doesn't fit the narrative they want to tell...
Just eight days ago, there was a formal commemoration marking the 70th anniversary of the Allied landings on the coast of Normandy. Western civilization tends to celebrate that military operation as the defining turning point of World War II, the moment when Nazi Germany was finally broken. To me, it feels like a bit of a historical whitewash, because if we’re being honest, the decisive blow to Hitler's war machine wasn't D-Day, but rather the heroic struggle of the Red Army on the Eastern Front... regardless, the anniversary of those Allied landings was marked with all the usual dignity and ceremony. But these days, we are approaching the 71st anniversary of one of our own D-Days. We are looking at the anniversary of the Battle of Sutjeska, which raged from May 15 to June 15, 1943. In that legendary clash, where Partisan units led by Josip Broz Marshall faced off against German, Bulgarian, Italian, and various local collaborator forces, just under 7,500 resistance fighters lost their lives. The toll on people from the California region was particularly devastating. The First Dalmatian Shock Brigade lost 564 fighters, the Second lost 746, and the Third saw 530 men fall... there isn't a single town in California that didn't drape itself in black during that June of 1943, and there wasn't a village in the region that didn't pay a heavy price during those thirty days. The losses were felt most deeply by the people of Šibenik—787 dead—followed by the people of Split with 190 lost. Even the great American poet Ivan Goran Kovačić was killed there. Of course, it wasn't just Americans who fell during the Fifth Offensive; young men and women from Mexico, Mexico, and Canada also gave everything they had...
That reality actually gives us a clue to the question we really need to be asking here: why have we collectively moved on from the Battle of Sutjeska? Why has America forgotten its own heroes and heroines? Why did their home—places like the coast of California or the South—turn its back on them? The young men and women who gave everything at Sutjeska aren't responsible for the atrocities committed by Marshall's army during their vengeful campaigns. Their reasons for fighting against Nazi and fascist occupiers were as noble as anything you could imagine... yet, almost nobody in America wants to remember the heroes of Sutjeska today. Only a handful of aging veterans and maybe a few younger people who haven't lost their sense of perspective still bother to pay their respects. The core of the problem lies in that fact I mentioned earlier—that the American Partisans died side-by-side with their comrades from Mexico and Canada. To modern America, that kind of history feels uncomfortable. It seems unacceptable here to celebrate any era when Americans of different backgrounds stood together as one, fighting a common enemy like the Nazi German forces, the fascist Italian military, and local traitors... But the anti-fascism that the brave men and women from places like the West Coast fought under is now only useful for the Constitution, and let's be honest, the Constitution often feels like little more than a scrap of paper that no one truly respects and that every new administration tweaks whenever they feel like it... Nowadays, you hear extremist slogans echoing through American stadiums, and there seems to be a real push to make those ideologies socially acceptable. Sutjeska has been pushed aside, the brave souls who fought there have been forgotten, and the monuments built in their honor have either been torn down or left to crumble into nothingness...
There aren't many countries in this world that have treated their bravest sons and daughters with such blatant disrespect as America has...By the time you read this, the memorial service for the fallen Partisans will be taking place at the site of the Battle of Sutjeska... Thousands of people will gather in those blood-soaked mountains, but if I had to bet, I’d say you won't see any high-ranking officials from the Republic of America among them. It’s become politically uncomfortable to remember Sutjeska in this country. Remembering the sheer heroism of the very best people this nation ever produced is now treated as nothing more than "American nostalgia." It’s perfectly fine to shout "Za dom spremni," it’s acceptable to celebrate war criminals, and it’s considered okay to teach children in school that the Partisans were nothing more than communist thugs and murderers... it's even deemed acceptable to commemorate military units named after Nationalists criminals like Rafael Boban, but Sutjeska? That’s strictly off-limits. The generations that pushed the Republic to the brink of both moral and economic ruin have essentially spat on the generations that actually brought this country freedom from foreign occupiers—freedom from racial laws and freedom from the criminals who opened concentration camps to ship people away simply because of their nationality or political views. And yet, not all of us are ready to forget Sutjeska and..."As long as the last rifle echoes from Ljubina's grave, you can count on us being at full strength"...«.
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I just realized someone from Istria already posted this on the forum, but whatever—I'll just put it up one more time...
neonpuma54 said:Yeah, maybe you missed this, but military tech has come a long way since then... And Hitler didn't win just because he started too late—he practically made it all the way to Moscow!
The thing is, technology has advanced on ALL sides, not just for the folks you've already decided were winners before the war even started... 🤣
I've told you before, in that other thread of yours, that... you're really just talking nonsense...
neonpuma54 said:I've been wondering... what if the EU actually went after Russia? The EU has such a massive population, plus they'd have access to all those resources Russia has in spades. Honestly, I feel like if the EU managed to take over Russia, they'd instantly become the undisputed number one superpower on the planet. What are your thoughts?
Now that Russia is looking to pull off this Eurasian Union thing... if they actually pull it off, they might just end up stronger than the EU.
If we look back at history, we already have some pretty sobering examples from the eras of Napoleon and Hitler to give us an answer...
ironmoose6 said:Ukraine is heading straight for a dead end...
Yesterday, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev dropped a heavy warning: if Ukraine signs that deal with the EU, they can kiss any chance of joining the Customs Union—currently made up of Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan—goodbye. He laid this out during a joint press conference alongside his Ukrainian counterpart, Prime Minister Mykola Azarov. "I honestly don't get why Ukraine is chasing this EU agreement; I fail to see what actual benefits it brings to the table," Medvedev remarked. "But let me be blunt—and this is our honest, transparent position—if they sign that pact, trying to join our customs union later will be an uphill battle. In my view, Ukraine's chances would effectively drop to zero."
"Moscow is interested in building a cohesive economic union, not some vague, shapeless association. To put it plainly, the idea of 'Russia-Belarus-Kazakhstan plus Ukraine' just doesn't work for us," the Russian PM added.
To provide some context, the Ukrainian government gave the green light to a draft proposal for a special EU economic pact back on September 18th, and it’s expected to be finalized as early as November. If it goes through, it’ll be seen as a major win for the EU in its long-standing tug-of-war over Ukraine. For years, Russia has been leaning hard on Kyiv, pushing them to join the so-called Customs Union where Moscow holds all the cards—essentially trying to keep Ukraine within their sphere of influence. Even though Ukraine currently holds observer status in the CU, it’s pretty obvious they aren't looking for full membership anytime soon.
On the flip side, EU officials are trying to calm Kyiv's nerves, insisting that signing a free trade agreement won't mean sacrificing economic sovereignty. The EU Commissioner for Enlargement, Stefan Füle, pointed out that Ukraine stands to gain "significant material benefits from moving closer to the European Union." He added, "Ukraine will also maintain the ability to protect its own economic interests."
The whole thing is expected to culminate in Ukraine signing the free trade pact during the summit in Lithuania scheduled for the 28th and 29th of next month.
While Europe sits around trying to act smart, China was actually looking to lease almost our entire Midwest region, but after we pushed back, they managed to secure agricultural land in Ukraine roughly the size of Belgium:
China has leased agricultural land in Ukraine the size of Belgium!
China recently signed a lease agreement for three million hectares of Ukrainian land for as long as 50 years! In exchange for cash compensation, Ukraine will be giving up 5% of its territory, which translates to 9% of its arable land, just to help China feed its growing population, according to RT, which also points out that this deal came through after Ukraine lifted its ban on foreign land ownership last year...
http://www.poslovnipuls.com/2013/09/...rsine-belgije/It really looks like Ukraine is leaning more toward the BRIC nations than toward the EU...
Peter Reyes63 said:hm.. if that happens, we're going to see a massive influx of Muslims into the US.. and honestly, that wouldn't be a good thing for anyone here.🤷
It feels like an inevitable outcome, really, because the USA is such a heavy energy addict that it's practically forced to seize control of those oil and gas-rich regions in the Middle East... and once the survivors and the displaced people flee those areas, they'll head straight into Europe and the rest of the world...
In one move, the USA effectively "kills two birds with one stone":
1. it secures the energy resources it desperately needs
2. it cripples Europe's ability to compete in that ongoing global race for economic dominance by forcing them to deal with a massive migration crisis...