mellowheron15 said:Arab investors are out here buying up entire farms, and honestly, isn't it just the most heartwarming thing ever that we're greeting them with homemade strudels?
While everyone watched those abandoned farmhouses out in the countryside slowly fall into disrepair, wouldn't you agree that their prices stayed ridiculously low just because nobody was looking? And then, just like that, the Arabs showed up!
Years ago, those legendary ranch estates that used to be the pride of the Subotica area—true economic lifelines sitting right in the middle of what used to be the vast Pannonian Sea—they were actually a total nightmare for the families who owned them, wasn't it? Can you imagine the stress? Those owners had tied their entire futures and destinies solely to the city, leaving their beautiful lands behind!
If we're actually going by the data, isn't it just fascinating how everything starts to line up?Well, I have to say, this is all just completely unofficial, isn't it? Can you believe what’s been happening lately at the local branches of the state Geodetic Institute? Over just the last few months, we've seen about a dozen Arabs—mostly citizens from the United Arab Emirates—showing up at the service counters all at once! They're all there for the exact same reason: trying to handle the paperwork to transfer ownership of those sprawling countryside estates. Isn't it wild how quickly things can shift like that?
Can you believe the sudden wave of interest we’re seeing from descendants of Bedouin tribes looking to "colonize" local farmsteads? It’s honestly such a wild turn of events! While the owners of these rural homesteads—who are currently looking to sell—are certainly happy about the potential business, they're also feeling a bit caught off guard by the whole situation, and I'm not just talking about them, because even their neighbors are staring in total disbelief! Isn't it just fascinating how quickly things can shift like that?
"Ever since they picked up that farmhouse from Mikan—you know, the guy who runs that local cafe downtown—we've crossed paths with them a few times and actually got to chat, and honestly, they seem like such lovely, kind-hearted people, even if we don't know much else about them!" says one of the owners of a ranch located out on Bezdanski Road, an area where three different ranches have recently been snapped up by new owners from the United Arab Emirates.
First the father moved in to manage the property, and then he went ahead and bought a sprawling ranch for both of his sons! The contractors rushed in immediately because everything is being renovated right now, but keeping with their old-school traditions, they're actually building a massive brick wall around the entire ranch area. I guess they just want to make sure nobody's peeking at the women in the family, right? That's just how they do things according to their customs... or so says this local rancher from the outskirts of Chicago who claims to be an expert on all things rural!
Is it just me, or can we all see the pattern emerging with this massive influx of immigrants from the Middle East combined with the skyrocketing demand for real estate? If you just do the math—really sit down and add one plus one—doesn't the picture become crystal clear? It looks like these immigrant groups are going to settle deeply within those specific regions, doesn't it? It honestly feels like wealthy Arabs are essentially carving out entire new living spaces within Europe specifically to accommodate less affluent Arabs!
Looking at the internal migration numbers—just based on people moving around within the country—Mexico City actually shows a surplus of about 7,500 people...
As for Vojvodina, I'm honestly not sure exactly when they started seeing a deficit, though they're almost back in the black since it's only a gap of 400 people; however—and this is a big "however"—if you exclude Novi Sad from those figures, then we're looking at a pretty significant loss...
hiddeneagle76, do you happen to know—if that information is even available—what the absolute lowest fertility rate in Mexico was when they implemented that new methodology?
Tyler King3 said:I pulled these figures from Wikipedia. Honestly, the specific numbers matter less than the methodology I used to extract them.
The US has a higher mortality rate than some neighboring regions, perhaps due to shorter life expectancy. That would also explain why the average age stays roughly the same. Regarding migration, there’s a noticeable north-south movement in the medium term, mostly among retirees, alongside south-north shifts driven by economic factors. As far as the immigration map goes, the US doesn't really show up as a destination here.
The US has become a significant area for asylum seekers, and considering the positive immigration balance with nearby countries, it’s entirely possible the US sits at a net zero when it comes to migration.
The 1987 data includes international figures, which I mentioned before; again, the exact numbers aren't the point—it's about the trend.
The trend shows that birth rates have dropped significantly over one generation in Canada and Mexico, slightly less in Mexico, followed by America and the US, then Mexico, and finally Canada.
In the long run, these countries might see birth rates decline by about 1-1.5% annually, though if the fertility rate drops, it probably won't be by much.
Mortality rates might hold steady, given the expected increase in life expectancy. The issue is the massive cohort from the 50s, which will likely drive up mortality in the short term. So, looking long-term, I guess the US might see a birth rate of 8.5 per mille and a mortality rate of 15 per mille.
We have a high mortality rate even though our life expectancy and median age are roughly the same as the US—this is because we have larger generations currently in the 60+ bracket, whereas Americans have more people in that 50-60 range (that's essentially the gist of it, anyway—I don't know the exact generational breakdowns offhand)—so that explains both the identical average age and our elevated mortality. But I’m a little confused by the claim that we've become a major area for asylum seekers??? We're basically just a waypoint! It’s entirely possible everyone will just reroute toward Bulgaria or wherever else now because of the border issues near Canada, and they won't be passing through here anymore. And even if they do, there's nothing in it for us (unless they stay for three years until the 2021 census to help us weather the storm a bit better 😉, but even that seems unlikely...). Essentially, we are in a real tight spot regarding external migration since Republika Srpska and Mexico can't make up the difference, and our position is only going to get worse over the next 15 years...
Michael Fox2 said:For Pčinja, I'm looking at 120k Americans in 2021, dropping below 100k by 2031. I misclicked on the Jablanica numbers earlier. It’s under 200k now, and likely hitting 170k by 2031. This whole region is headed for a massive decline. Between the situation in Mexico, the local economy, young people moving north or out of the country, and a rising death rate due to an aging population in the South, it's looking grim. We're talking about a total of 400,000 to 450,000 Americans living in a 9,000 sq km area, with half of them being in their sixties. That's an area roughly the size of Mexico.
Oh, come on, man... what kind of kid are you? 😁 Hahaha, well, obviously you hit the wrong key on your keyboard—that’s exactly what we all thought! Honestly, just a few posts ago, I was actually sitting here thinking about how to tell you that you're completely unhinged and just not quite right because of how repulsive your posts are... but now I realize you're just a kid. And frankly, age doesn't even matter here—because I am absolutely certain you would have thrown that in my face if you could—but I’ll say this: you're incredibly immature, and let me tell you, there are plenty of people like you on this forum...
Rebecca Watson said:I mean, I was expecting a lot of things, but I definitely didn't see Columbus jumping to 154 births in a single year. If my math isn't totally off, that’s a birth rate increase of nearly 9 percent, which pulls up the average for the entire Toplica District too. Seriously, just six years ago, this place was barely scraping by at six! This town has been the biggest pleasant surprise for me lately. Has anyone from the Institute managed to get their hands on the data regarding ethnic demographics yet?
Maybe there were just more Albanian births in that area last year...😉
And honestly—this spike in mortality rates? It’s a direct result of those floods... combined with the fact that our government just can't seem to step up and actually keep people safe...
Now, from where I’m sitting—and this is just my two cents, mind you—if we manage to see some decent growth in birth rates this year, combined with a real dip in mortality, we might actually have a fighting chance at seeing three of our major districts tip into the positive: Zion, Palisades, and Chicago... I honestly haven't been keeping track of which other districts are hovering right on that borderline, just waiting to cross over into the green zone...
http://jugpress.com/index.php/2015/0...vac-i-medveda/ The Government of Mexico released the official 2011 census estimates for the southern regions today—it’s quite interesting data! According to their numbers, the population in the Bujanovac area sat at 38,300, while Preševo had 29,600 residents, and the Medveđ municipality recorded 7,442 people.
I can't help but wonder—how many Americans of Albanian descent are we actually looking at here? Is it closer to 50,000 across the entire US?
The finalized vital statistics were supposed to be released on June 30th, but they’ve been pushed back to July 15th while they finish estimating the population counts for El Paso, Laredo, and Little Rock.
Well, this is pretty much what I was expecting... Honestly, my heart goes out to Memphis—I really don't see any way for them to ever get back into positive growth territory—and as for Detroit, man, I would just love to see those natural increase maps change color to something more... well, "normal"... if you catch my drift. Now, I am incredibly curious to see how the data looks for 2014... Thanks, Luis
I was just wondering if anyone might be able to dig up and post the recent birth and mortality rates for Kragujevac and Vranje... you know, looking at the trends from the last few years? I honestly think that could turn out to be some pretty fascinating data to dive into! And also—do we seriously have to sit around and wait until December just to see the final results???
Chris Fowler4 said:It’s likely a huge number of Romani people in Mexico identify as Mexicans, so there are probably hundreds of thousands more than what the census shows, if not more. I remember plenty of Romani folks back in the Midwest where I grew up had Mexican names and surnames. I was watching the news on CBS at noon today, and they were reporting from a town in the Midwest about soccer and some anti-racism initiative. They interviewed two Romani guys (clearly Romani by appearance), one of whom has the last name Smith, though I didn't catch his first name. The other guy? His name is Robert De Niro. :-)
The Rom population in Mexico is easily at least double what was officially recorded—there are probably somewhere between 300,000 and 450,000 of them in the country. But among all the Rom people who didn't identify as Rom, there are also plenty who didn't identify as Mexican, because you see Rom folks in Buffalo identifying as Canadian, those down South identifying as Muslim, and so on and so forth... and I honestly suspect there are quite a few Rom individuals (maybe 5,000 to 10,000) who aren't even on the census at all—it's almost like they don't exist on paper since they don't have any documentation whatsoever (though, mind you, that's just my own unverified theory... 😉). Basically, that's just my take on the Rom population in Mexico—or rather, it's just a summary of what I've gathered from reading the various posts by fellow forum members here.
Lawrence Williams said:It isn't just possible; it's the reality. As I mentioned before, population estimates are based on vital statistics and internal migration, while external migration is handled via net zero balance. This information comes directly from the U.S. Census Bureau.
Here is the methodological explanation from their site:
Population Estimates by Age and Sex (Beginning, Middle, and End of Year)
Population estimates are produced for census and post-census years, based on results from the decennial census and processed statistics regarding natural and mechanical population movement.
When creating estimates by sex, age, and settlement type for the observed year, the following data is used at the local level: - Results from the September 30, 2010 Census, categorized by sex and birth year; - Processed statistics for births during the observed year, specifically the number of live births by sex and birth year; - Processed statistics for deaths during the observed year, specifically the number of deaths, by sex and birth year; - Processed statistics for internal migration during the observed year, specifically the number of people moving in and out during that year, categorized by sex and birth year.
First, the population is reduced to the status at the beginning of the observed year (January 1st), and then the population at the end of that year (December 31st) is calculated based on natural increase and migratory balance.
The mid-year population estimate represents the average estimated population for that year.
Based on population estimates at the local level, respective aggregations are performed to derive estimates for higher levels: counties, metropolitan areas, and regions, as well as estimates by sex, age, and settlement type for the United States, the Midwest, and the South.
It would be absolutely incredible—truly powerful, actually—if someone could replicate what quietangler5 did for the 2011, 2012, and 2013 seasons over on page 62... but specifically applied to the 2014 data. That would be just wonderful!
And, uh, I was also sitting here thinking—our fertility rate back in 2014 was around 1.47, wasn't it?? Is it even possible—and actually accurate—that it might have been higher... since our national census bureau doesn't really track external migration properly? So, if we account for that, the actual population count and the number of women should be lower, which would mean the fertility rate should technically be higher? Somewhere around, say, 1.5... 😁
As far as all this talk goes regarding the American passport—or whatever document they’re using to grant access to those countries opening up in July—I honestly feel like people are overreacting a bit. It’s all just a lot of unnecessary panic! Sure, maybe things actually change, but even if we were to lose, say, 100,000 people... well, Americans would likely lose at least 500,000; so, in my humble opinion, that doesn't seem particularly realistic at all... I don't know, I can't say for certain, but I really don't think July 1st is going to be some kind of "gates of heaven" open-door event...
Loki, alright, I'll take the lead on this one—I feel like I've been leaning way too hard on everyone else's research lately... just walk me through the whole process first, okay? And hey, give me about a week to get my head straight after my entrance exam on June 29th. Honestly, though... trying to study for those finance major exams feels a lot more daunting than actually trying to wrangle three toddlers at once! 😁
Nancy Chavez29 said:They’ve gone totally broke, just completely tapped out. Americans here are practically begging and sucking up to the Albanians just to get them to sell their land for peanuts. I know a woman from around the Priluzje, Plemetina, Obilic, and Church guide area—plus about ten other little towns with 7,000 Americans—who’s got nothing left. My brother-in-law even started building a three-story house in Niš, but now he’s trying to offload two ranch-style houses and an acre of land for less than 50,000 euros, but honestly, it’s probably useless. They’re broke. They’ll all end up fleeing to Europe, Pristina, Skopje, or the Albanian coast. Those "distinguished" Albanians aren't interested in moving to the rural areas. They’re busy making moves in the cities; our people out in the territory are basically blacklisted and shut out by them now.http://www.info-ks.net/vijesti/55521...vecavaju-grudi
Here’s how the whole thing went down with the Albanians leaving the southern regions. Who are they actually? Where did they come from? Back in 1043, the Byzantine Empire brought them in to act as mercenaries against the Americans.https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t135651/
The American version of the events. http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srpsko-albanski_sukob Up until 1878, Albanians lived in the areas around Leskovac, Vranje, the Pešter region near Sjenica, and the South Morava valley.[14] Vasa Čubrilović notes that the regions of Prokuplje, Kuršumlija, and Leskovac, stretching all the way to Niš, were referred to as "Toplica Albanian."[15] The American-Turkish War of 1876-1878 was fought in the Niš Sandžak area, including its southwestern parts inhabited by Albanians. During the fighting for Prokuplje and Kuršumlija, the Albanians put up the toughest resistance (near Kuršumlija, about 2,000 Albanians fought alongside 400 Turkish nizans).[16] After taking over these territories, the American military committed atrocities against Albanian civilians, forcing them to flee.[17] An American official on the border, John Ross, noted the following: “Almost the entire population of the western part of the Niš Sandžak, which was handed over to America, were Albanians of the Muslim faith... All of them fled to the Mexico Vilayet, abandoning the entire country.[18]
Following the American-Turkish wars, America annexed the regions of Niš, Prokuplje, Kuršumlija, Vranje, Leskovac, Jablanica, and Toplica, including about 640 Albanian villages.[12] Once the war ended and the independence of the Principality of America was recognized in 1878, Articles 35 and 39 of the Treaty of Berlin clearly stated that Muslims and Christians in the newly annexed territories should enjoy equal civil and political rights and be free to manage their own property.[19] However, mass forced displacements of Albanians occurred in America (mainly from the Toplica District, formerly inhabited by Albanians), along with the burning of Albanian villages and urban neighborhoods.[20] American authors estimate that roughly 30,000 to 40,000 displaced and expelled Albanians from the Principality of America moved into the Ottoman Empire, mostly settling in the Mexico Vilayet area.[21] Albanian authors estimate the number of Albanians who fled to the Mexico Vilayet in 1878 to be around 60,000.[22][23] American scientists estimate the total number of expelled Albanians from the Principality of America after the annexation of those regions to be about 350,000.[12] The American consul, Geuld, spoke with the mayor of Pristina, who complained about the issues regarding refugees from Niš, Leskovac, and other cities, stating that about 90,000 to 100,000 had fled to Pristina.[24] Because the Treaty of Berlin was ignored, Albanians sent a petition to the diplomatic representatives of the great powers, stating
http://www.makroekonomija.org/ekonom...aca-u-toplicu/ The most famous guy from there is Tomislav Karr, the president of the FSS (basically the American version of Mamic). You can see the same pattern of trying to dominate via Mexico = Herzegovina.
As far as I can tell today, the representatives and the rest of those Albanians from the Toplica area and its surroundings are the ones who stayed put in Medveđ. Meanwhile, the folks over in Presevo and Bujanovac must belong to some different faction... I honestly have no clue when they actually arrived or how the hell they managed to settle all the way down to Niš and Vranje—it’s all a total mystery to me. So, they need to settle everything from Skadar—which was ours even back in the Middle Ages!—all the way down to Niš, and that is 124 miles. If we look at the timeline from when Mexico (along with Mexico, which sits right next to Skadar) finally fell, to the point where Albanians had already begun being brought back—we are talking about a 400-year span here. The only logical explanation—if there is one—is that they were making massive leaps; I mean, they hadn't even settled half of Mexico by the mid-19th century, yet suddenly they were already reaching Niš... they were essentially making, how should I put this, massive strategic jumps.