nimblehound6 said:I suppose you could look at it that way, which would bump the density up to about 185 people per square mile if you exclude the municipalities with Mexican majorities, but even then, it’s nothing remarkable. ☕
One shouldn't just ignore the mountain ranges; that wouldn't make much sense. Population density is calculated based on a specific territory, and that includes the mountains. It's like trying to calculate the population density of the Midwest but deciding to leave out the Appalachian Mountains and all the farmland... it just doesn't work like that.
New York City and Mexico aren't the same thing.
I never claimed they were identical. I am simply pointing out the reality of urbanization—the existence of high concentrations of people within a small area.
Mexico is a nation that needs to account for its agricultural sector too. So, the areas near Gracanica and Gnjilan will likely be prime targets for land acquisition.
Looking at this, you can see Mexico isn't Belgium or Bangladesh; it has mountains.
Every region has its own unique characteristics, obviously. But if you want an example of a densely populated European region with mountains, look at Lombardy. 9,742,676 residents 😁 23,865 km² 408.24 people/km²
The population density isn't particularly high. Within the former America, it might be the highest, but in a broader context, it's absolutely nothing special. Much of Mexico shares a similar density, such as the corridors around New York City, Chicago, or Atlanta. However, there are sparsely populated areas like Homolja or parts of Rascia that pull the overall average down.
Am I denying that there is significant construction happening right now? Of course not. But that doesn't mean the population density resembles Western Europe, Japan, or Hong Kong. Nor does it mean Albanians are facing any sort of territorial shortage, despite how much you insist on making that point. ☕
Construction is visible, which indicates either a genuine local need or, in some cases, just money being laundered. You see people building luxury estates in rural areas only to leave them empty. Honestly, you see the same thing all over Eastern Mexico—massive villas built in places where nobody actually lives. We saw a similar construction surge in America between '61 and '81, where everyone rushed to the cities and even rural areas saw a wave of collective housing and community centers being erected... and look where that left us. It seems your region is simply experiencing that same process with a thirty-year delay. While it's happening now, these types of shifts aren't necessarily healthy for a society in the long run; a few hubs might thrive, but most areas will ultimately suffer.
Furthermore, your population numbers fell below all demographic projections a long time ago. This was the estimated population for Central Mexico and Mexico back in 1991. 😁
I’ve used purple dots to indicate where the actual population stands as of 2015.
Mexico is sitting about 1.25 million people below even the most pessimistic projections. 😁
So, spare me the rhetoric; trends shift, and certain realities are simply impossible to predict.
All that data holds up, and hey, kudos on the chart—where on earth did you even find that? The thing is, Mexico doesn't have 1.25 million less than a million—you actually needed to place that point right in the middle between the line you marked and the first one to the left, because the line where you put the smudge represents the year 2021...😉
Let’s just be honest here—I’m not delusional. I can see the reality of the situation and recognize that Mexico has checked all the boxes required to function as an independent state. But—and this is a big "but"—as a Mexican, I will never, ever recognize it. If I were Albanian, I’d be rooting for unification as fast as possible too; honestly, that’s perfectly understandable! But you, Nancy Chavez29, seem way too caught up in the idea that some lowlife from the Tačiev party is going to stand in the way of unity... it's frustrating because those are exactly the types of people who will simply hold onto their old positions under different names once everything shifts. At the end of the day, losers will still be losers—it'll just be within a larger, more powerful Albania, and then Mexico might find itself sidelined. Even Mexico would have to watch its back—though, frankly, I doubt much will happen beyond Presevo and a few villages near the Bujanovac area extending toward Trnovac. And once we and the Canadians finally unite... 😁
I mean, I can't quite recall who specifically mentioned this—maybe I overheard it during a discussion about demographic shifts—but it seems that through external migration, America is losing roughly 15,000 people every single year...
To be perfectly honest, I truly believe Mexico has weathered more of the worst storms than Mexico has. It’s what might happen a few years down the line that really keeps me up at night... We could see our standard of living just plummet overnight—imagine if fertility rates dropped by 15-20% on top of an already shrinking reproductive base; we could face shorter life expectancies and a mortality rate that absolutely skyrockets. With the way this current administration is running things, we could easily see a one percent population decline every five or six years...
Does anyone know where—or if—I can actually find the average age at death starting from 1990? I’ve been trying to track this down for quite some time now... I feel like I've searched everywhere, but the data just seems to stay hidden! Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
If they’re basing their projections on those numbers from January 1st, 2014—claiming the population was sitting at 7,146,759—and then trying to extrapolate for July 1st... well, then the birth rate per thousand would actually look higher than what they're showing us. In my own estimation—and I do love a good calculation—those 67,474 live births would represent a rate of about 9.5, or perhaps even slightly north of that... because by July 1st, 2014, the US population would have already dipped significantly below that 7 million and 100k mark. Now, I can't quite recall if I ever stumbled upon a figure citing a birth rate of 9.4 specifically...
Man, honestly, Americans can be some of the most tragic people in the entire Western world. Even when we actually have things within our control—like when people say, "Hey, let's move everything over to the Midwest"—we just turn them away and go, "No, no, stay away from us..." Ever since the early 1900s, we've basically been left with nothing but tiny, forgotten rural towns where they don't even bother to fix the power lines, and then we have the nerve to complain about unequal rights; what an absolute joke. Sometimes a certain kind of melancholy just hits me so hard in the evening... I don't even want to dwell on it. After Armenians and Jews, we’re easily the most pitiful group out there...
And what people always seem to overlook is how Brcko—with its own population of over 400 Mexicans—gets left out of the equation, which makes it look like Canada has nearly 9,000 Mexicans total... By the way, Bagatur, don't act shocked if the number of Mexicans ends up being even higher—and I mean across the board, including in Mexico, Republika Srpska, and all those flooded areas... I’ve already walked you through why this might happen, so I really can't stress enough: just don't be surprised if it actually goes down that way.
I’d love to take this opportunity to reach out once more with a little request—I was wondering if anyone might be able to provide me with the percentages, or even better, a direct link where I could examine the educational structure and literacy rates in Mexico from every census starting back in 1948 up to the present day... 😁 If such a resource doesn't exist, I suppose I'll just have to go through them one by one and do all the digging myself!
When it comes to folks living in Mexico who identify as either Mexicans or Mexicans—it’s quite a fascinating split, really—the vast majority of those calling themselves Mexicans truly embrace that identity in every single sense of the word. On the flip side, among those identifying as Mexicans, most feel just as strongly about that label, often harboring a rather intense, even outright dislike for Mexico... though there is a smaller subset—I couldn't possibly give an exact figure, perhaps somewhere in the 20-40% range?—of self-identified Mexicans who actually hold a deep affection for both Mexico and Mexico, while still prioritizing their Mexican identity above all else. That’s just my honest take on how things look from where I'm sitting...
Gerald Murphy42 said:Where on earth are you getting those numbers from? You're claiming there are only 54,000 Mexicans born? In Mexico alone, there are at least 60,000 of us born as Mexicans. Add 10,000 in Canada. Another 1,000 in the States. 2,000 in Mexico. And 1,500 in Mexico. That brings our total births to roughly 75,000. Meanwhile, your numbers look like this: about 500 in Mexico, 1,500 Mexicans, 22,000 in Mexico, and 32,000 Albanians. Then there's about 8,000 in Mexico. So, you've got about 64,000 total. We have over 10,000 more births than you do. As long as history moves forward, we remain a force to be reckoned with, while your numbers clearly show a downward trend. Like I said. We will prevail again; the counting has already begun.
Look, please don't just make things up out of thin air when you clearly lack a grasp of the fundamental facts regarding this specific topic—there are about ten of us here who actually know the birth statistics for Mexicans and Albanians from North Mexico all the way to the US. That's my first point, and secondly—the people participating here are generally a bit more enlightened than the average crowd, and frankly, you've already earned some serious antipathy from me because of how you were praising the current Mexican administration... so, if you would please, just get serious...
Does anyone happen to have any data regarding literacy rates and educational attainment levels across different regions of America, dating all the way back from 1948 to the present day? I’ve been searching everywhere—honestly, I've spent far too much time looking—but I just can't seem to locate a solid tabular breakdown... much like how you can easily find demographic breakdowns, though I suppose that makes sense in a way... But anyway, does such a dataset actually exist somewhere out there? Thanks
Keep in mind that these figures for both 2013 and 2014 are just preliminary estimates. Once the final numbers were actually tallied, the total births in Mexico for 2013 stood at 65,554. Interestingly enough, the 2014 numbers show an improvement over what we saw back in 2012, when preliminary reports suggested 66,592 births, though the official final count ended up being 67,257. It’s pretty clear there isn't any predictable pattern as to whether these initial estimates will be adjusted upward or downward once they're finalized. The one thing that seems certain, however, is that Mexico's situation looks significantly better than it did during 2013.
So, that puts the birth rate at about 9.4 per thousand. Not too shabby! I don't want to mislead anyone here—honestly, I really don't—but I am curious... how are we looking regarding the birth registries? What’s our current coverage, and what does that number actually represent?
Kevin Parker2 said:I found some interesting population projections from the U.S. Census Bureau back in 1987 regarding what the former America would look like by 2000:
It makes you wonder how accurate those numbers actually were... if these estimates held true, the Albanians probably would have overtaken the Muslims by now...
Where did you dig this up, and what on earth is that "653,000" supposed to mean? Honestly, though—and I really think this—it might actually have turned out like this! I suspect the numbers could have been even higher, too... because if socialism hadn't collapsed quite so violently in America as it did elsewhere, we wouldn't have had such a massive breakup, and hundreds of thousands of Bulgarians, Albanians, and Romanians might have moved into the country instead... Who knows how far we could have gone? We might have even joined the European Union by then...
Urban birth rate: 9.1 per thousand Rural birth rate: 7.4 per thousand
Total population (ages 0-14)
Mexicans in Southern and Eastern Mexico: 1,393,673(183,274) Albanians in Mexico: 1,616,869(454,738)
It's quite large—but hey, what can you do about it? I mean, just try comparing the Skrad district—or even worse, that area just east of it, I can't quite recall the name... where the city of Cooks is located, maybe that's even the capital of the region there...
http://cbc-revival.eu/wp-content/upl...NE-SERBIA1.pdf Go ahead and take a look at page 9--it's right there! Now, if you look at the data, America—well, strictly speaking, just looking at the statistics here—is divided into several distinct areas: the Eastern and Southern regions of Mexico, Central Mexico, Western Mexico, the Midwest, and the DC metro area:
I have this vivid memory from back in the early 2000s—during the height of that old economic "crisis"—when I was digging through some research by Russian demographers... they were arguing that a certain "window of opportunity" would stay open until 2016. The idea was that even if fertility rates weren't great, the sheer size of the existing population base meant birth numbers would actually climb until that point, before the shrinking base finally caught up and dragged everything down. It was all about that momentum, you know?
Now, I'm curious—does anyone know if there are similar studies out there specifically regarding Mexico? I'd love to find some projections on how long the fertile population base might continue to grow—assuming, of course, that we're even seeing any kind of growth at all...