Thomas Nelson25 said:We're talking about actual spears here—say they weigh 130 lbs—so when you factor in surface area, force, pressure, blah blah blah... it's just wild.

It's those specific mental capacities that kick in once you commit to that kind of discipline and maintain a much clearer headspace.

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 29, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:When you bring up the idea of eternal life to skeptics, it just seems to grate on them—they bristle at the very notion, and I suppose there isn't much one can do about it, given how much they truly loathe the thought.

Personally, I think they just get tired of hearing the same old recycled nonsense about an eternal hell waiting for them if they don't "accept Christ as their Savior."

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 27, 2016

silvergardener152 said:There’s this beautiful promise out there, isn't there? This idea that humanity might one day live as long as the sun itself, dwelling in an earthly paradise, perpetually young, healthy, and perfect. It reminds me of that profound passage: "And he who sat upon the throne said, 'Behold, I am making all things new.' And he said to me, 'Write this down, for these words are faithful and true.'"

True, but I don't think that means we'll live forever in a literal, flesh-and-blood sense. It's more about being realigned with the principle of growth, allowing for spiritual advancement, which naturally flows into better health, creativity, and intelligence. Think of a human being as a complex structure made of various "bodies" or layers of being. The physical layer eventually fails due to circumstances beyond our control—whether you live to be 70 or 17,000 years old, the physical level, along with the subtle matter that existed when humans inhabited higher dimensions, simply breaks down over time. It's a factual reality: everything is composed of sub-elements, which are themselves built from even finer elements. Nothing exists as a permanent foundation; everything has its own underlying base. Just like matter in the cosmos, everything is cyclical—it arises from energy and eventually returns to it. When I say "energy," I'm not talking about gravity or electricity, but rather the energy of the subtle realm.

It’s beautiful to believe in the "what happens when it happens" aspect, but we really need to focus on the here and now. Right now, humans aren't living eternally in a physical form, nor will we ever. Of course, if you take things entirely literally, it might seem possible, but that usually just means someone hasn't fully grasped the deeper meaning. All the best.

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 26, 2016

silvergardener152 said:Oh, it’s definitely not 821—that’s practically just the beginning! 🙂 The eternal cycle lasts as long as the sun continues to shine.

Hmm, I don't think a person actually lives that long. 🤔

Think of a human being as nothing more than a vehicle—like an F1 car designed for the purpose of self-discovery. If you cling too tightly to your physical body or your ego, treating them as your entire "self," you aren't going to fare well in the grand scheme of the universe. Honestly, if someone lived for 1,000 years while staying that attached, it would be a living hell. You'd just be chased by your own thoughts, consumed by your emotions, while your body decays and your mind falls apart.

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 26, 2016

silvergardener152 said:Five hundred years? Honestly, that feels like such a small number when you really stop to think about it. It’s as if we humans were fundamentally designed to exist for much longer—maybe even forever, or somewhere in that cosmic ballpark. We just seem to have this little glitch in our genetic code holding us back. You know, history is full of legends about people who lived far beyond a normal lifespan; I mean, look at the stories of Methuselah. Back then, it seems like aging wasn't this rapid, relentless sprint it is today, but a much slower, more graceful process.

So "near eternity" puts us at roughly the year 821, right? 🤔

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 25, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:I suppose you could say these things pull people away from true spirituality... which is why fewer and fewer people seem to reach it, despite the endless number of religions and spiritual gurus out there.

Think of religion as one kind of cage, while the scientific, materialistic view of the universe is another. Neither has to be limiting if you have enough perspective—if you don't let yourself be defined by them, but instead observe them for what they truly are. Technology isn't inherently evil, either. It only becomes a barrier when used by a low level of consciousness to chase selfish goals that exclude or oppress others. In its essence, technology is neutral; it’s actually a tool designed to overcome obstacles. It’s a beautiful manifestation of human intellect and imagination within our physical reality. Of course, tech alone isn't the answer, just as religion isn't the opposite of spirituality. True spiritual understanding doesn't come from organized religion; it comes from personal realization through active, solitary experimentation.

Religion isn't spirituality. Belief isn't spirituality. Historically, religious institutions grew out of the genuine spiritual evolution of individuals, but over time, they became rigid, fossilized structures that resist any real reform. Take "Christianity," for example—it, along with many other faiths, often serves nothing more than hollow rituals and, frankly, dangerous indoctrination that leads to internal and external conflict. There’s no room for actual human experience in those systems. At the end of the day, that’s just the mathematical certainty of how these institutions evolve over time.

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 23, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:... is just a device that praises itself

spirituality is something far beyond that, I guess...

Real growth is impossible without mastering the technology of spiritual development—which means working on a person's energy and aligning their physical, mental, and emotional states to achieve true well-being.
An amateur stays an amateur no matter how hard they try blindly. Spirituality isn't about luck or guesswork; it’s about understanding and practicing the fundamental principles of existence to fuel total growth.

We shouldn't mistake "technology" for just a buzzword from modern science. It actually stems from a basic human hunger for knowledge and our ability to recognize the underlying mechanics of how things grow. Unfortunately, today we mostly see the exploitative, material side of tech, but that's a narrow view. Technology isn't inherently "anti-human"; it's a broad concept that goes far beyond the materialist science of our current era.

There is such a thing as subjective technology—a deep, ancient wisdom passed down by highly evolved individuals who shine a light on it through the ages. Depending on the culture, people call it many things, but the most widely recognized term is yoga. And I don't mean yoga as mere physical exercise; I mean it as a developmental technology aimed at well-being, centered primarily on the energetic level—the kriya.

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 21, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:What situation are we even talking about?

Living to 500 isn't some ultimate tragedy—honestly, if that were the case, I’d rather stick to 70 or maybe 80, provided we actually feel healthy.
Because, well...
either someone is chasing eternity—which seems unlikely—or they simply don't care how long they last.
Even with all the medical tech involved, it's not exactly natural; I suppose measuring a human lifespan by how long machines can keep you going is a bit pointless.

Technology isn't just about hardware and gadgets. To grow spiritually, you also need to master "internal technology"—the subjective ability to harness your own mechanics to fuel overall growth, including the physical side. It's about understanding how things work and using that knowledge to level up.

I definitely wasn't talking about "500 years on life support." You're jumping to that conclusion because you equate a 500-year lifespan with medical machines, while viewing 70 years as a "healthy life." In reality, I don't know many people who actually live healthily. Sadly, most people die from disease—they die *of* illness, whether they're 30 or 90.

People lived for over 500 years a long time ago. Of course, nobody believes that anymore, especially when they're busy believing life started from a random pile of amino acids in some primordial soup—it's basically the "because that's just how it is" argument.

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 18, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:Not even slightly. I suppose engineers need their hardware—their "iron wings"—but a spiritual person possesses invisible ones that are, maybe, a million times more powerful.

That misses the point entirely. 🤣

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 18, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:Technology and spirituality... they just don't seem to play well together.

I couldn't disagree more.

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 16, 2016

Richard Wells said:That’s a wild idea. A heavy one, too. Honestly? I feel like if people were living that long all by themselves, most would eventually just end it. Most of us, anyway. There’s a certain logic to being limited by time—focusing on what we achieve, pushing our bodies, riding those life cycles, and even dealing with the setbacks we have to overcome. It gives things weight. I can't even wrap my head around how everything would change if you stretched a single life out to 500 years. To me, it feels like everything would just lose its meaning.

Meaning is something you create for yourself. Maybe people lived that long a long, long time ago, but they did it because the quality of their existence actually supported it.

For the last 70 years, we've measured human progress by how many people survive infancy or early childhood thanks to medical breakthroughs—basically, using science to fight off death. But while we might be living longer on average, life feels increasingly hollow. Even when we have material comfort or abundance, it's often because of a flawed mindset and the psychological poison we constantly pour into our own hearts.

Look, if someone lived to be 500, whether in the ancient past or some distant future, it wouldn't be because of some medical "miracle." It would be because they maintained the stability of their nervous system and kept their blood flowing healthy. They'd have to bypass all that naive hype about how "human civilization has never been more advanced" or how "science is responsible for everything." That's just wishful thinking.

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · Sep 16, 2016

fadedbison said:Wait, you think 500 years counts as "forever"? 🙄 🙄 🙄

Well, it’s still a slice of eternity—a solid 500 years of it. 🤔

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What do you guys think about the idea of living to 500? in Spirituality · May 8, 2016

Carl Rivera43 said:Honestly, even at 26, I sometimes feel like I’m pushing 40 or maybe even older. And it isn't because I've lived through some wild lifetime experiences—though let's be real, most high schoolers today have seen way more than they should have just by being out in the world. It's actually because of how much I've read, listened to, and watched.

But would I want to live for 500 years? You bet I would! That would mean a much longer youth (well, at least the kind you feel in your heart) and way more chances to truly figure out who I am. You might think I'm being selfish, but I see it as a way to grow alongside other people.

Think about it: more time means more opportunities to meet new people, and surely, among them, I'd find those who genuinely care.
Now, for the slightly realistic—and maybe a little pessimistic—part. Sure, there will be people who try to screw me over. Some might even do it subconsciously or subtly. But hey, as a moderate optimist, I’ll always give the benefit of the doubt and place my trust in the people who actually matter.

Materialism and the whole rat race thing doesn't really move the needle for me. I'm used to patience, waiting, and taking the long road. I'm comfortably middle class, and honestly, I don't need mansions or guard dogs (or paparazzi hiding in the bushes nearby). Instead, I'm focusing on being ready for whatever surprises life throws my way.

And get this: every now and then, I lean a little toward narcissism. If I had 500 years, maybe I'd finally have enough time to fix that and balance things out a bit better.

We've been moving since the day we were born, right? So, holding onto good memories and living in the moment is what gives me hope for a better today. And frankly, a better today matters even more than a better tomorrow.

An "individual" or a distinct personality is nothing more than a figment of our imagination. It isn't a real, tangible thing; it's a construct, mostly built by our subconscious. Searching for a "true self" or a fixed identity is like digging through a landfill of passing impressions and old memories—just sorting through everything you *aren't*. Even if you had a million years, you wouldn't find anything solid there.

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Will there ever be peace? in Spirituality · Feb 7, 2016

electrictinker26 said:How are we ever supposed to find peace? Even when people turn to spirituality, they end up attacking one another just to defend some rigid "stance" or "opinion." It’s even worse in everyday life, where someone might be willing to destroy everything they’ve built just because they’re convinced they’re right about some trivial point—driven by this desperate need to prove themselves or whatever else. And don't even get me started on the various types of egomaniacs out there.

The fact that someone posts on a forum with a specific name doesn't actually mean anything. 🙂

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Will there ever be peace? in Spirituality · Feb 7, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:Please, everyone understands that banalization isn't just about making everyday comparisons.

What do you think people actually enjoy discussing—philosophical texts or reality?
You see,
spirituality isn't philosophy
or rather
philosophy doesn't offer a spiritual journey
in other words
one can only travel quite short distances through spirituality.

Need more explanation? I hope not.

Banalization applies to any topic where someone resorts to it. People resort to it because they feel the need to say *something*, but since they have nothing substantive to offer, they just spout nonsense. Essentially, they just keep circling back to the same points, wasting energy trying to defend things that don't matter.

I was talking about the psyche from the perspective of how it functions energetically and how that impacts a person's overall state—including what we call "peace." What exactly you're getting at by building on this is up to you, but it doesn't really have anything to do with what I was saying.

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Will there ever be peace? in Spirituality · Feb 6, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:Michael Gonzalez77,

For most people, the banalization of these ideas is just quoting snippets from philosophy books—books written by authors who probably couldn't even
address anything concrete if their lives depended on it.

And we aren't really talking about the physical body here—it's more about the spirit (or what some might call the "psyche").

Ever heard of an aura?
It’s that sensation where your body stays in one room while your mind drifts through the wall into the next,
so you already know exactly what you're looking for in the fridge before you've even stepped foot in the kitchen.

If an aura doesn't manifest as a mental craving for a meal, and then a war breaks out in the kitchen, I guess there's no hope for inner peace.

Your example about the "boss" was just banalization. Beyond that, I explained what an aura truly is, rather than what someone thinks it is (like your opinion, which stems from a lack of actual knowledge on the subject).

The psyche is also a component of both the aura and the brain (both energetically and organically). Regarding the meridians that channel white bioenergy circulation, there are three specific "psychic meridians" that drain excess white bioenergy away from the brain. If these become partially or fully blocked by byproducts created by brain activity—specifically waves of negative thoughts and stress—then the brain loses its normal function. This leads to psychological distress, and if it becomes significant enough, it results in chronic mental health issues.

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Will there ever be peace? in Spirituality · Feb 6, 2016

Maria Robinson2 said:So, if we're talking about this energetic aura governing how the psyche works, I guess one might wonder
... what people actually do with that information?

Give me a practical example of how this plays out in everyday life—for instance:
your boss at work tells you that your performance is slipping and he’s cutting your overtime...
and you just respond with, "Sorry, can't hear you, my aura is too intense right now."
(Which, I suppose, is perfectly valid from an energetic standpoint.)

I won't engage with any banalization of this.
The aura is the very essence of a person; there is no being without an aura. The physical body is simply a component located at the center of the aura, manifesting its functions: psychophysical, intellectual, creative, informational, spiritual development, and several other core processes. An aura typically consists of ten main functions and various sub-functions, spanning about 25 meters across ten distinct layers. Only extremely highly developed individuals reach an eleventh layer, while some rare cases involve someone's aura being damaged down to nine or even eight layers.

Talking about the aura is like asking, "What should people know about their own bodies? Why would they care?"

The aura represents growth. Spiritual development is essentially the maturation of the aura, along with other non-physical components tied to it. The chakra system is one of the primary channels through which "gray bioenergy" is drawn from the surrounding environment, while the meridian system acts like the circulation for "white bioenergy." The relationship between gray and white bioenergy is governed by the laws of bioenergetics. A person's healthy aura function is dictated by four specific laws of bioenergetics, while spiritual maturity is guided by a fifth, and so on. That's just a rough outline of the knowledge.

Health functions relate directly to the state of the aura—specifically, deviations from bioenergetic laws. In over 80% of cases, structural disruptions in the aura are caused by spherical waves of negative thoughts or stress waves. Just as this knowledge exists, there are many other methods dedicated to aiding aura development, cleansing, and prevention (something similar to Kriya Yoga from the East, which strengthens the human energetic system).

There isn't a single rigid rule for spiritual growth, but true spiritual progress cannot happen without a pure aura. In other words, you need the synchronized functioning of the nervous system, which is the result of the aura's ten main functions working in harmony. This also extends to mental alignment—meaning a mindset almost entirely free from negative thoughts and harmful emotions, perhaps allowing for a negligible 0-5% margin.

As the aura matures, a phenomenon known as the "Yellow Core" appears. It starts in the center of the aura, somewhere in front of the chest and abdomen, and gradually expands from a tiny point until it envelops the entire body (over 2 meters). This core consists of a noble energy that, much like human consciousness (white bioenergy), holds a massive amount of knowledge. It represents a new level of awareness and the very essence of the aura. Later stages of development culminate in the full maturation of this Yellow Core, eventually leading to expansion and what we call enlightenment. It is all an energetic process; the physical body is merely the living shell through which these life energies operate.

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