Posts by Michael Gonzalez77

rustymaker3 said:Tinnitus—that ringing in your ears or head—isn't some cosmic energy from the universe. It's a medical issue.

Thanks for listening.

redbear2 said:Oh, for sure. I meant to mention that I don't take it too seriously; I see it more as a general indicator of what I'm talking about.

I agree with the rest of your points. The whole point here was to clarify how ideas just "happen," rather than linking them to some magical transmitter beaming information directly into our brains.

Think of the human aura as an antenna. It picks up an incredible amount of energetic waves from all corners of the cosmos. Ideas don't just pop out of thin air; instead, certain rare individuals act as true enlighteners of human consciousness. They aren't like everyone else preoccupied with their own small, private lives. Rather, they tap into spiritual energies to meet humanity's collective spiritual needs, building the very foundation for how we perceive reality.

It isn't about "broadcasting into a brain," but about the profound spiritual evolution of individuals on a level most people can't even fathom.

Most fundamental concepts in Western thought haven't moved much since the days of Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. Those great minds established the core tenets of how we think today—principles that modern society still struggles to fully realize. People like that are rare, and I'm not talking about theoretical physicists dreaming about deep space. On the other hand, you have the principles established by Buddhism and the Buddha in the East; those truths remain unsurpassed to this day.

When these principles are actually applied to a person's life, true spiritual growth happens. This opens the door for that person to help others, support their community, and even contribute globally to overcoming ignorance.

Human consciousness has always been bolstered by spiritual energies. In a sense, they are a natural extension of consciousness itself.

rustymaker3 said:The human mind truly is limitless.

Sure, which is exactly why we choose to live trapped inside these self-imposed, narrow little fictions we call "reality." We’re essentially slaves to our own illusions. But hey, at least we have one kind of freedom left: the freedom to limit ourselves and drag everyone else down with us.

😵

rustymaker3 said:When you talk about our limited minds and semi-intelligence—mine, yours, everyone's—whose specific perspective are you actually referring to?
Where can one go to encounter the Universal Mind?...

I never assumed you thought humans possessed an unlimited mind. 🙂

Think of "semi-intelligence" as being measured against the sheer intelligence of spiritual energies. Calling it semi-intelligent almost feels like an understatement, but there's still some level of intelligence there.

You "meet" it through spiritual growth—basically, through the hard work and persistence of bringing your own energy into harmony.

redbear2 said:

It’s starting. Asks:
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Look at Stephen Hawking. He’s the living proof of what raw, pure talent in physics actually looks like.
Then probability stepped in and ruined everything. It was like God rolled the dice ten times in a row and they all came up wrong.
When it came to raw intellectual horsepower, Hawking was basically rolling nothing but fives and sixes on the dice.
When it came to his health, he was basically looking at a solid number one or two on the scale. No real issues there. 😲

And what exactly does that prove?

Sorry, there's just too much aimless noise here for me to bother responding. No offense intended, but if you can't stick to the point instead of constantly turning everything into a sermon and wandering off into the fog, I don't see much point in debating you.

If I recall correctly, I already posted this. Self-explanatory. "Quotes."

It’s also possible that those big, innovative breakthroughs don't actually come from staring intensely at a problem. Sometimes, you just end up thinking about two completely unrelated things, and your subconscious finds a way to bridge the gap between them—even if you weren't trying to connect the dots consciously.

That’s exactly why I put them in quotes. They don't just spontaneously manifest out of thin air. My point is that they rarely stem from some intense, conscious grind or hyper-focusing on a single problem. Instead, they hit you like those sudden "lightbulb" moments—seemingly appearing from absolutely nowhere.

The brain is just a tool. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thinkers need:

The foundation—that raw, innate talent you're born with.
It’s all about that grind—really digging into talent optimization and sharpening those mental tools.
Mastering your own mental processes.
A generated state of consciousness is basically just an idea waiting to be chewed on by a rational mind.

Alright.

It happens under any circumstances—whether through intentional effort or just during other automated, mindless tasks. The triggers vary.

I never claimed you can't find innovative ideas by focusing on problem-solving. I’m just saying the brain often hits those solutions precisely when it *isn't* focused. It’s because the focus isn't there that you can actually bridge the gap between seemingly unrelated things. Focus implies looking in one direction, in a straight line.



Well, Tesla was right: everything we discover must already exist. You’re just misinterpreting him; try taking his words a bit more literally and rationally. To find a shipwreck at the bottom of the ocean, the ship has to actually be down there. Your belief in its existence doesn't change anything. What Tesla meant is that prior to any discovery, the possibility of that discovery always existed.

The thing is, his insights didn't come from a limited human mind that BELIEVES the universe is 13.7 billion years old because of the Big Bang. Instead, he pulled his patents from his "mental laboratory." He would perfect everything "there" first, and once they worked perfectly in his mind, he’d simply say, "Hey, build this exactly like this," and his assistant would construct the asynchronous motor and everything else, which worked flawlessly on the first try.

"If science spends just 10 years focusing on non-physical (spiritual, paranormal) phenomena, it will advance more than it has in its entire century of existence." ~ N. T.

There's a reason people try to pass this off as something "classical" or ordinary—how else are they supposed to clear away such a massive cloud of confusion? 🤔

redbear2 said:

It’s starting. Asks:
Quote:
Look at Stephen Hawking. He’s the living proof of what raw, pure talent in physics actually looks like.
Then probability stepped in and ruined everything. It was like God rolled the dice ten times in a row and they all came up wrong.
When it came to raw intellectual horsepower, Hawking was basically rolling nothing but fives and sixes on the dice.
When it came to his health, he was basically looking at a solid number one or two on the scale. No real issues there. 😲

And what exactly does that prove?

Sorry, there's just too much aimless noise here for me to bother responding. No offense intended, but if you can't stick to the point instead of constantly turning everything into a sermon and wandering off into the fog, I don't see much point in debating you.

If I recall correctly, I already posted this. Self-explanatory. "Quotes."

It’s also possible that those big, innovative breakthroughs don't actually come from staring intensely at a problem. Sometimes, you just end up thinking about two completely unrelated things, and your subconscious finds a way to bridge the gap between them—even if you weren't trying to connect the dots consciously.

That’s exactly why I put them in quotes. They don't just spontaneously manifest out of thin air. My point is that they rarely stem from some intense, conscious grind or hyper-focusing on a single problem. Instead, they hit you like those sudden "lightbulb" moments—seemingly appearing from absolutely nowhere.

The brain is just a tool. Nothing more, nothing less.

Thinkers need:

The foundation—that raw, innate talent you're born with.
It’s all about that grind—really digging into talent optimization and sharpening those mental tools.
Mastering your own mental processes.
A generated state of consciousness is basically just an idea waiting to be chewed on by a rational mind.

Alright.

It happens under any circumstances—whether through intentional effort or just during other automated, mindless tasks. The triggers vary.

I never claimed you can't find innovative ideas by focusing on problem-solving. I’m just saying the brain often hits those solutions precisely when it *isn't* focused. It’s because the focus isn't there that you can actually bridge the gap between seemingly unrelated things. Focus implies looking in one direction, in a straight line.



Well, Tesla was right: everything we discover must already exist. You’re just misinterpreting him; try taking his words a bit more literally and rationally. To find a shipwreck at the bottom of the ocean, the ship has to actually be down there. Your belief in its existence doesn't change anything. What Tesla meant is that prior to any discovery, the possibility of that discovery always existed.

It doesn't matter to you who wrote what because you're already stuck in your own biases. If you don't grasp something I'm saying—and I'm being completely sincere and open here—all you have to do is ask. Since it seems like you're missing most of my point, it’s no surprise you call it "fog." That’s just how it works. I’m more than willing to break down any part of what I've written to make it clearer for you, if you actually want to understand.

rustymaker3 said:Do you really think I need the Super-mind—or just a limited human mind—to grasp your position?

There isn't much more to debate here, but hey, thanks for being blunt. When I talk about the Super-mind, I’m referring to that "higher intelligence"—essentially God, though that word alone doesn't capture all the complexities involved. Our limited minds are just small pieces of that Universal Mind, and our semi-intelligence is a fragment of that greater cosmic intelligence. This Universal Mind acts as the creator of all living things; you could call it spiritual energy if that makes more sense to you.

To put it simply, the wisdom found in enlightened people comes from tapping into those spiritual energies. They might not even realize they're doing it—just like a person stays alive because of vital life forces without ever having to consciously think about how it works.

Keith Miller30 said:True, but I think you might be looking at this a bit too superficially. You argue that life proves this point, but is that entirely accurate when we consider someone like Perelman versus a child in a developing nation who doesn't even have a loaf of bread? You see, Perelman had the luxury of dedicating his entire existence to refining his innate talents, whereas a child in a remote part of Africa doesn't have that privilege; their priority is simple survival rather than solving Poincaré's conjectures. Because people aren't starting from the exact same circumstances, can we really say certain individuals are simply "chosen"? It’s more that some, like Perelman, possessed both high intelligence and an intense, almost antisocial focus on their work from a very young age. If I may ask, were you truly able to maintain that level of singular focus, or were you constantly being pulled away by external distractions that drained your energy, your time, and your concentration? Who is to say you wouldn't have achieved greatness yourself if you had been able to commit one hundred percent?

So, we have to account for personality traits, life circumstances, and environmental influences... and that is only a small fraction of the whole story. My view is that a vast number of people possess that initial spark within them that could allow them to rise above the surface, but the tragedy is that they are often held back by the various struggles life throws their way.

When we talk about significant spiritual figures—those individuals destined to make a massive contribution to collective growth and push human consciousness forward—they tend to operate under a sense of inner guidance. They usually "wake up" when necessity calls, often triggered by a profound mystical experience that sets them in motion. It isn't just about the external circumstances surrounding them; rather, they seem to manifest in environments that naturally align with their internal trajectory. These aren't just "geniuses" in the conventional, worldly sense. Instead, they carry a latent, spiritual perfection that eventually surfaces, much like budo.

redbear2 said:Exactly. If it didn't, they would have just kept it to themselves.

I don't really know what constitutes success in your eyes—what the criteria even are—so I can't quite grasp why you're using other people's comments as a benchmark, trying to turn them into proof that they're wrong by reflecting their own logic back at them. It seems like we're talking about two different things here.

I don't see how that matters. Whatever someone manages to achieve, it's their achievement. Period.

From what I can gather from this thread and the other comments, nobody is actually suggesting that personal effort is being undervalued. Quite the opposite.

You don't need to say it outright. We're talking about rationalizing one's own failures.

On the other hand, when looking specifically at Tesla, he explained his experience quite broadly himself.

Tesla wasn't exactly a saint, especially during the later stages of his life.

My argument is that a true contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the otherworldly (which isn't some distant realm, but an immanent entity, something Tesla himself confirmed).

Why bother with that side of things if it doesn't impact the human race?

Ideas aren't mere inventions or products of human imagination. They are principles that exist and are simply rediscovered. They aren't uncovered through the mental process of conceptualizing reality with thought, but rather through the process of clearing the mind—because thoughts alone wouldn't grant access to them.

I don't follow. Even if the mind is cleared, if something isn't accessible to it, it can't be known.

This isn't about attributing "effort" to someone or something; it's a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

A natural phenomenon?

So the stuff you're claiming is reality isn't a fiction? How does that work? Are you the chosen one sent to tell everyone else the truth about the state of things?

Fair enough.

If you take two people with identical talent, the one who puts in the work—the one who grinds, studies, and actually tries to improve—is obviously going to outpace the lazy one who refuses to grow.

Okay.

But raw talent itself isn't something you earn through effort. You're born with it. No amount of hard work changes that fact.

Show me the proof.

Look at it this way: you can't just work your way into being Nikola Tesla. You can't become a genius inventor just by studying harder. You either have it or you don't. And nobody decides that—not the individual, not the parents. It’s decided by a higher power.

I didn't realize biology was considered a "higher power." People tend to wrap mysteries in mysticism whenever they don't understand how something works.

Even Tesla admitted his inventions weren't really "his." He claimed he received them as visions and sketches that just appeared to him. Who sent those sketches to Tesla? They didn't exactly mail themselves, did they? Just a thought. Cheers.

I've read theories suggesting that brilliant, innovative ideas often seem to arrive "out of nowhere." But really, it's just the byproduct of deep, conscious thought. What the brain needs is time and the right environment to let the subconscious bridge gaps between seemingly unrelated concepts. That's when the most creative solutions surface. Usually, it happens during mindless tasks like showering or taking a walk. When you focus too intensely on a single point, you actually block those connections. That's why the "lightbulb moment" usually hits you while you're sitting in a bathroom stall.

That’s clear enough, but it doesn't do a single thing to address anyone else's problems.

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redbear2 said:Exactly. If it didn't, they would have just kept it to themselves.

I don't really know what constitutes success in your eyes—what the criteria even are—so I can't quite grasp why you're using other people's comments as a benchmark, trying to turn them into proof that they're wrong by reflecting their own logic back at them. It seems like we're talking about two different things here.

I don't see how that matters. Whatever someone manages to achieve, it's their achievement. Period.

From what I can gather from this thread and the other comments, nobody is actually suggesting that personal effort is being undervalued. Quite the opposite.

You don't need to say it outright. We're talking about rationalizing one's own failures.

On the other hand, when looking specifically at Tesla, he explained his experience quite broadly himself.

Tesla wasn't exactly a saint, especially during the later stages of his life.

My argument is that a true contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the otherworldly (which isn't some distant realm, but an immanent entity, something Tesla himself confirmed).

Why bother with that side of things if it doesn't impact the human race?

Ideas aren't mere inventions or products of human imagination. They are principles that exist and are simply rediscovered. They aren't uncovered through the mental process of conceptualizing reality with thought, but rather through the process of clearing the mind—because thoughts alone wouldn't grant access to them.

I don't follow. Even if the mind is cleared, if something isn't accessible to it, it can't be known.

This isn't about attributing "effort" to someone or something; it's a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

A natural phenomenon?

So the stuff you're claiming is reality isn't a fiction? How does that work? Are you the chosen one sent to tell everyone else the truth about the state of things?

Fair enough.

If you take two people with identical talent, the one who puts in the work—the one who grinds, studies, and actually tries to improve—is obviously going to outpace the lazy one who refuses to grow.

Okay.

But raw talent itself isn't something you earn through effort. You're born with it. No amount of hard work changes that fact.

Show me the proof.

Look at it this way: you can't just work your way into being Nikola Tesla. You can't become a genius inventor just by studying harder. You either have it or you don't. And nobody decides that—not the individual, not the parents. It’s decided by a higher power.

I didn't realize biology was considered a "higher power." People tend to wrap mysteries in mysticism whenever they don't understand how something works.

Even Tesla admitted his inventions weren't really "his." He claimed he received them as visions and sketches that just appeared to him. Who sent those sketches to Tesla? They didn't exactly mail themselves, did they? Just a thought. Cheers.

I've read theories suggesting that brilliant, innovative ideas often seem to arrive "out of nowhere." But really, it's just the byproduct of deep, conscious thought. What the brain needs is time and the right environment to let the subconscious bridge gaps between seemingly unrelated concepts. That's when the most creative solutions surface. Usually, it happens during mindless tasks like showering or taking a walk. When you focus too intensely on a single point, you actually block those connections. That's why the "lightbulb moment" usually hits you while you're sitting in a bathroom stall.

Success is usually just whatever happens to be trendy at the moment. It’s about what looks desirable right now, which doesn't mean it's actually useful or even true. On a personal level, it really just comes down to your own psychological foundation—whether the work you're doing actually matters to the world, or if it's just an illusion, which, let's face it, is how most people play it.

redbear2 said:Exactly. If it didn't, they would have just kept it to themselves.

I don't really know what constitutes success in your eyes—what the criteria even are—so I can't quite grasp why you're using other people's comments as a benchmark, trying to turn them into proof that they're wrong by reflecting their own logic back at them. It seems like we're talking about two different things here.

I don't see how that matters. Whatever someone manages to achieve, it's their achievement. Period.

From what I can gather from this thread and the other comments, nobody is actually suggesting that personal effort is being undervalued. Quite the opposite.

You don't need to say it outright. We're talking about rationalizing one's own failures.

On the other hand, when looking specifically at Tesla, he explained his experience quite broadly himself.

Tesla wasn't exactly a saint, especially during the later stages of his life.

My argument is that a true contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the otherworldly (which isn't some distant realm, but an immanent entity, something Tesla himself confirmed).

Why bother with that side of things if it doesn't impact the human race?

Ideas aren't mere inventions or products of human imagination. They are principles that exist and are simply rediscovered. They aren't uncovered through the mental process of conceptualizing reality with thought, but rather through the process of clearing the mind—because thoughts alone wouldn't grant access to them.

I don't follow. Even if the mind is cleared, if something isn't accessible to it, it can't be known.

This isn't about attributing "effort" to someone or something; it's a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

A natural phenomenon?

So the stuff you're claiming is reality isn't a fiction? How does that work? Are you the chosen one sent to tell everyone else the truth about the state of things?

Fair enough.

If you take two people with identical talent, the one who puts in the work—the one who grinds, studies, and actually tries to improve—is obviously going to outpace the lazy one who refuses to grow.

Okay.

But raw talent itself isn't something you earn through effort. You're born with it. No amount of hard work changes that fact.

Show me the proof.

Look at it this way: you can't just work your way into being Nikola Tesla. You can't become a genius inventor just by studying harder. You either have it or you don't. And nobody decides that—not the individual, not the parents. It’s decided by a higher power.

I didn't realize biology was considered a "higher power." People tend to wrap mysteries in mysticism whenever they don't understand how something works.

Even Tesla admitted his inventions weren't really "his." He claimed he received them as visions and sketches that just appeared to him. Who sent those sketches to Tesla? They didn't exactly mail themselves, did they? Just a thought. Cheers.

I've read theories suggesting that brilliant, innovative ideas often seem to arrive "out of nowhere." But really, it's just the byproduct of deep, conscious thought. What the brain needs is time and the right environment to let the subconscious bridge gaps between seemingly unrelated concepts. That's when the most creative solutions surface. Usually, it happens during mindless tasks like showering or taking a walk. When you focus too intensely on a single point, you actually block those connections. That's why the "lightbulb moment" usually hits you while you're sitting in a bathroom stall.

From where I'm sitting, this just looks like your specific perspective—driven by those particular motives you mentioned earlier—that led you to jump into this thread.

redbear2 said:Exactly. If it didn't, they would have just kept it to themselves.

I don't really know what constitutes success in your eyes—what the criteria even are—so I can't quite grasp why you're using other people's comments as a benchmark, trying to turn them into proof that they're wrong by reflecting their own logic back at them. It seems like we're talking about two different things here.

I don't see how that matters. Whatever someone manages to achieve, it's their achievement. Period.

From what I can gather from this thread and the other comments, nobody is actually suggesting that personal effort is being undervalued. Quite the opposite.

You don't need to say it outright. We're talking about rationalizing one's own failures.

On the other hand, when looking specifically at Tesla, he explained his experience quite broadly himself.

Tesla wasn't exactly a saint, especially during the later stages of his life.

My argument is that a true contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the otherworldly (which isn't some distant realm, but an immanent entity, something Tesla himself confirmed).

Why bother with that side of things if it doesn't impact the human race?

Ideas aren't mere inventions or products of human imagination. They are principles that exist and are simply rediscovered. They aren't uncovered through the mental process of conceptualizing reality with thought, but rather through the process of clearing the mind—because thoughts alone wouldn't grant access to them.

I don't follow. Even if the mind is cleared, if something isn't accessible to it, it can't be known.

This isn't about attributing "effort" to someone or something; it's a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

A natural phenomenon?

So the stuff you're claiming is reality isn't a fiction? How does that work? Are you the chosen one sent to tell everyone else the truth about the state of things?

Fair enough.

If you take two people with identical talent, the one who puts in the work—the one who grinds, studies, and actually tries to improve—is obviously going to outpace the lazy one who refuses to grow.

Okay.

But raw talent itself isn't something you earn through effort. You're born with it. No amount of hard work changes that fact.

Show me the proof.

Look at it this way: you can't just work your way into being Nikola Tesla. You can't become a genius inventor just by studying harder. You either have it or you don't. And nobody decides that—not the individual, not the parents. It’s decided by a higher power.

I didn't realize biology was considered a "higher power." People tend to wrap mysteries in mysticism whenever they don't understand how something works.

Even Tesla admitted his inventions weren't really "his." He claimed he received them as visions and sketches that just appeared to him. Who sent those sketches to Tesla? They didn't exactly mail themselves, did they? Just a thought. Cheers.

I've read theories suggesting that brilliant, innovative ideas often seem to arrive "out of nowhere." But really, it's just the byproduct of deep, conscious thought. What the brain needs is time and the right environment to let the subconscious bridge gaps between seemingly unrelated concepts. That's when the most creative solutions surface. Usually, it happens during mindless tasks like showering or taking a walk. When you focus too intensely on a single point, you actually block those connections. That's why the "lightbulb moment" usually hits you while you're sitting in a bathroom stall.

It sounds like you either knew him personally, which would explain why you're so certain, or you’re an expert in his field calling him out for being unstable—if we're being polite about it—or just plain eccentric.

redbear2 said:Exactly. If it didn't, they would have just kept it to themselves.

I don't really know what constitutes success in your eyes—what the criteria even are—so I can't quite grasp why you're using other people's comments as a benchmark, trying to turn them into proof that they're wrong by reflecting their own logic back at them. It seems like we're talking about two different things here.

I don't see how that matters. Whatever someone manages to achieve, it's their achievement. Period.

From what I can gather from this thread and the other comments, nobody is actually suggesting that personal effort is being undervalued. Quite the opposite.

You don't need to say it outright. We're talking about rationalizing one's own failures.

On the other hand, when looking specifically at Tesla, he explained his experience quite broadly himself.

Tesla wasn't exactly a saint, especially during the later stages of his life.

My argument is that a true contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the otherworldly (which isn't some distant realm, but an immanent entity, something Tesla himself confirmed).

Why bother with that side of things if it doesn't impact the human race?

Ideas aren't mere inventions or products of human imagination. They are principles that exist and are simply rediscovered. They aren't uncovered through the mental process of conceptualizing reality with thought, but rather through the process of clearing the mind—because thoughts alone wouldn't grant access to them.

I don't follow. Even if the mind is cleared, if something isn't accessible to it, it can't be known.

This isn't about attributing "effort" to someone or something; it's a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

A natural phenomenon?

So the stuff you're claiming is reality isn't a fiction? How does that work? Are you the chosen one sent to tell everyone else the truth about the state of things?

Fair enough.

If you take two people with identical talent, the one who puts in the work—the one who grinds, studies, and actually tries to improve—is obviously going to outpace the lazy one who refuses to grow.

Okay.

But raw talent itself isn't something you earn through effort. You're born with it. No amount of hard work changes that fact.

Show me the proof.

Look at it this way: you can't just work your way into being Nikola Tesla. You can't become a genius inventor just by studying harder. You either have it or you don't. And nobody decides that—not the individual, not the parents. It’s decided by a higher power.

I didn't realize biology was considered a "higher power." People tend to wrap mysteries in mysticism whenever they don't understand how something works.

Even Tesla admitted his inventions weren't really "his." He claimed he received them as visions and sketches that just appeared to him. Who sent those sketches to Tesla? They didn't exactly mail themselves, did they? Just a thought. Cheers.

I've read theories suggesting that brilliant, innovative ideas often seem to arrive "out of nowhere." But really, it's just the byproduct of deep, conscious thought. What the brain needs is time and the right environment to let the subconscious bridge gaps between seemingly unrelated concepts. That's when the most creative solutions surface. Usually, it happens during mindless tasks like showering or taking a walk. When you focus too intensely on a single point, you actually block those connections. That's why the "lightbulb moment" usually hits you while you're sitting in a bathroom stall.

The "otherworldly" side of things is just a fundamental part of human consciousness—it’s what happens when we hit the ceiling of our own intellect and realize how limited our reasoning actually is. And let's be clear: Tesla didn't just dream this up out of thin air.

redbear2 said:Exactly. If it didn't, they would have just kept it to themselves.

I don't really know what constitutes success in your eyes—what the criteria even are—so I can't quite grasp why you're using other people's comments as a benchmark, trying to turn them into proof that they're wrong by reflecting their own logic back at them. It seems like we're talking about two different things here.

I don't see how that matters. Whatever someone manages to achieve, it's their achievement. Period.

From what I can gather from this thread and the other comments, nobody is actually suggesting that personal effort is being undervalued. Quite the opposite.

You don't need to say it outright. We're talking about rationalizing one's own failures.

On the other hand, when looking specifically at Tesla, he explained his experience quite broadly himself.

Tesla wasn't exactly a saint, especially during the later stages of his life.

My argument is that a true contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the otherworldly (which isn't some distant realm, but an immanent entity, something Tesla himself confirmed).

Why bother with that side of things if it doesn't impact the human race?

Ideas aren't mere inventions or products of human imagination. They are principles that exist and are simply rediscovered. They aren't uncovered through the mental process of conceptualizing reality with thought, but rather through the process of clearing the mind—because thoughts alone wouldn't grant access to them.

I don't follow. Even if the mind is cleared, if something isn't accessible to it, it can't be known.

This isn't about attributing "effort" to someone or something; it's a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

A natural phenomenon?

So the stuff you're claiming is reality isn't a fiction? How does that work? Are you the chosen one sent to tell everyone else the truth about the state of things?

Fair enough.

If you take two people with identical talent, the one who puts in the work—the one who grinds, studies, and actually tries to improve—is obviously going to outpace the lazy one who refuses to grow.

Okay.

But raw talent itself isn't something you earn through effort. You're born with it. No amount of hard work changes that fact.

Show me the proof.

Look at it this way: you can't just work your way into being Nikola Tesla. You can't become a genius inventor just by studying harder. You either have it or you don't. And nobody decides that—not the individual, not the parents. It’s decided by a higher power.

I didn't realize biology was considered a "higher power." People tend to wrap mysteries in mysticism whenever they don't understand how something works.

Even Tesla admitted his inventions weren't really "his." He claimed he received them as visions and sketches that just appeared to him. Who sent those sketches to Tesla? They didn't exactly mail themselves, did they? Just a thought. Cheers.

I've read theories suggesting that brilliant, innovative ideas often seem to arrive "out of nowhere." But really, it's just the byproduct of deep, conscious thought. What the brain needs is time and the right environment to let the subconscious bridge gaps between seemingly unrelated concepts. That's when the most creative solutions surface. Usually, it happens during mindless tasks like showering or taking a walk. When you focus too intensely on a single point, you actually block those connections. That's why the "lightbulb moment" usually hits you while you're sitting in a bathroom stall.

It’s not just about spinning your wheels in place—that’s exactly why we’re even having this conversation. You can't get there through sheer willpower alone. Real breakthroughs happen when consciousness transcends that mental "cage." Think about all those massive scientific leaps made before we even had the tools to measure them. Those weren't products of trial and error or brute-force logic; they were moments of pure, intuitive insight. It’s like a meditative state where the brain finally stops grinding away at the noise, allowing information to flow directly into your awareness. It’s an internal vision, almost spatial, triggered by whatever you're deeply focused on.

Here’s the thing: we don't actually "invent" the principles of nature inside our heads. Those laws aren't just figments of our imagination; they are the active forces driving everything we see in reality. Our brains aren't capable of pure fantasy. Think of the brain not as a creative engine, but as an operational hub for thought within consciousness. It acts as a central station for processing conclusions and storing memory, but the brain itself isn't doing the thinking. Instead, it's consciousness that does the heavy lifting, taking in inputs not just through our five senses, but through deeper layers of the nervous system that operate far beneath our conscious awareness.

Because of how my nervous system is wired, I’ve been having precognitive dreams for years. My intuition isn't some mystical superpower; it’s actually just a byproduct of how I live. For the last 20 years, I’ve made it my life's work to stay balanced. I’m living proof that if you actually put in the effort, you can achieve incredible mental and physical health, total stability, and a perfectly tuned nervous system. Because I’ve cultivated that harmony, my brain is sensitive enough to pick up on subtle impulses that most people completely miss. I become aware of things happening around me that aren't tied to my five senses or whatever task is currently occupying my conscious mind.

Most people miss out on their full potential, even though they have everything it takes to reach it. It’s a shame, really. The reason is simple: they're too distracted by the noise of life. They scatter their mental and physical energy trying to chase every passing whim and unfulfilled desire. But the biggest drain is how people handle psychological hurdles—what most call "problems." Instead of facing them, people try to run away from these emotional states. This avoidance just fuels more negative thoughts and toxic mental loops, which only deepens the struggle. It becomes a vicious cycle where avoiding the issue actually creates more real-world consequences, eventually leading to chronic health issues down the road. It’s like trying to fix a leak by covering the floor with towels instead of just tightening the valve.

For enlightened people, this carries a lot more weight. But when you deal with those rare, brilliant minds who have reached that level? You start seeing actual "miracles"—not in some mystical sense, but in the way they simply perceive and process reality itself.

redbear2 said:Exactly. If it didn't, they would have just kept it to themselves.

I don't really know what constitutes success in your eyes—what the criteria even are—so I can't quite grasp why you're using other people's comments as a benchmark, trying to turn them into proof that they're wrong by reflecting their own logic back at them. It seems like we're talking about two different things here.

I don't see how that matters. Whatever someone manages to achieve, it's their achievement. Period.

From what I can gather from this thread and the other comments, nobody is actually suggesting that personal effort is being undervalued. Quite the opposite.

You don't need to say it outright. We're talking about rationalizing one's own failures.

On the other hand, when looking specifically at Tesla, he explained his experience quite broadly himself.

Tesla wasn't exactly a saint, especially during the later stages of his life.

My argument is that a true contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the otherworldly (which isn't some distant realm, but an immanent entity, something Tesla himself confirmed).

Why bother with that side of things if it doesn't impact the human race?

Ideas aren't mere inventions or products of human imagination. They are principles that exist and are simply rediscovered. They aren't uncovered through the mental process of conceptualizing reality with thought, but rather through the process of clearing the mind—because thoughts alone wouldn't grant access to them.

I don't follow. Even if the mind is cleared, if something isn't accessible to it, it can't be known.

This isn't about attributing "effort" to someone or something; it's a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

A natural phenomenon?

So the stuff you're claiming is reality isn't a fiction? How does that work? Are you the chosen one sent to tell everyone else the truth about the state of things?

Fair enough.

If you take two people with identical talent, the one who puts in the work—the one who grinds, studies, and actually tries to improve—is obviously going to outpace the lazy one who refuses to grow.

Okay.

But raw talent itself isn't something you earn through effort. You're born with it. No amount of hard work changes that fact.

Show me the proof.

Look at it this way: you can't just work your way into being Nikola Tesla. You can't become a genius inventor just by studying harder. You either have it or you don't. And nobody decides that—not the individual, not the parents. It’s decided by a higher power.

I didn't realize biology was considered a "higher power." People tend to wrap mysteries in mysticism whenever they don't understand how something works.

Even Tesla admitted his inventions weren't really "his." He claimed he received them as visions and sketches that just appeared to him. Who sent those sketches to Tesla? They didn't exactly mail themselves, did they? Just a thought. Cheers.

I've read theories suggesting that brilliant, innovative ideas often seem to arrive "out of nowhere." But really, it's just the byproduct of deep, conscious thought. What the brain needs is time and the right environment to let the subconscious bridge gaps between seemingly unrelated concepts. That's when the most creative solutions surface. Usually, it happens during mindless tasks like showering or taking a walk. When you focus too intensely on a single point, you actually block those connections. That's why the "lightbulb moment" usually hits you while you're sitting in a bathroom stall.

Exactly. We don't actually interact with nature itself; we just deal with our own mental constructs of it. It’s the same issue when we fall into the trap of thinking our personal experience is the only ultimate truth. That whole cycle of a deterministic mind—believing something is impossible simply because we can't conceive of it—is a fiction. And honestly, that kind of mental rigidity is exactly what trips people up and keeps them from functioning properly.

If I claim to have certain abilities that almost nobody in my immediate circle possesses, people usually jump to one of four conclusions: I’m crazy, I’m abnormal, I’m making it up, or I’m delusional. But honestly? That kind of logic is just a mental trap—a fiction built on over-relying on theoretical determinism. At the end of the day, it isn't really about whether you believe me or not; there's no real point in arguing over belief. It all comes down to a simple assumption: deciding whether something is actually possible or if it's fundamentally impossible.

Look, I know this works because I’ve lived it. Meanwhile, someone else isn't just guessing—they're flat-out claiming it's impossible based on a total misconception. I'm not sure if you follow my logic here, but it's essentially a mental loop in that direction.

redbear2 said:Exactly. If it didn't, they would have just kept it to themselves.

I don't really know what constitutes success in your eyes—what the criteria even are—so I can't quite grasp why you're using other people's comments as a benchmark, trying to turn them into proof that they're wrong by reflecting their own logic back at them. It seems like we're talking about two different things here.

I don't see how that matters. Whatever someone manages to achieve, it's their achievement. Period.

From what I can gather from this thread and the other comments, nobody is actually suggesting that personal effort is being undervalued. Quite the opposite.

You don't need to say it outright. We're talking about rationalizing one's own failures.

On the other hand, when looking specifically at Tesla, he explained his experience quite broadly himself.

Tesla wasn't exactly a saint, especially during the later stages of his life.

My argument is that a true contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the otherworldly (which isn't some distant realm, but an immanent entity, something Tesla himself confirmed).

Why bother with that side of things if it doesn't impact the human race?

Ideas aren't mere inventions or products of human imagination. They are principles that exist and are simply rediscovered. They aren't uncovered through the mental process of conceptualizing reality with thought, but rather through the process of clearing the mind—because thoughts alone wouldn't grant access to them.

I don't follow. Even if the mind is cleared, if something isn't accessible to it, it can't be known.

This isn't about attributing "effort" to someone or something; it's a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

A natural phenomenon?

So the stuff you're claiming is reality isn't a fiction? How does that work? Are you the chosen one sent to tell everyone else the truth about the state of things?

Fair enough.

If you take two people with identical talent, the one who puts in the work—the one who grinds, studies, and actually tries to improve—is obviously going to outpace the lazy one who refuses to grow.

Okay.

But raw talent itself isn't something you earn through effort. You're born with it. No amount of hard work changes that fact.

Show me the proof.

Look at it this way: you can't just work your way into being Nikola Tesla. You can't become a genius inventor just by studying harder. You either have it or you don't. And nobody decides that—not the individual, not the parents. It’s decided by a higher power.

I didn't realize biology was considered a "higher power." People tend to wrap mysteries in mysticism whenever they don't understand how something works.

Even Tesla admitted his inventions weren't really "his." He claimed he received them as visions and sketches that just appeared to him. Who sent those sketches to Tesla? They didn't exactly mail themselves, did they? Just a thought. Cheers.

I've read theories suggesting that brilliant, innovative ideas often seem to arrive "out of nowhere." But really, it's just the byproduct of deep, conscious thought. What the brain needs is time and the right environment to let the subconscious bridge gaps between seemingly unrelated concepts. That's when the most creative solutions surface. Usually, it happens during mindless tasks like showering or taking a walk. When you focus too intensely on a single point, you actually block those connections. That's why the "lightbulb moment" usually hits you while you're sitting in a bathroom stall.

Insights regarding the fundamental principles of existence are much more likely to be found in spiritual literature than in science. In the classic sense of the conventional materialist paradigm, science doesn't just fail to provide answers—it often offers incredibly narrow insights limited strictly by its own methodology and subject matter (matter itself). When science does offer hypotheses, they are merely tailored to that restricted scope, which practically leads people straight into error. If you're actually interested in this, I can point you toward some resources.

When someone possesses the ability to heal others, it isn't because they simply cruised through high school or pulled a medical degree from an Ivy League university. It’s actually rooted in their energetic potential—something they carry forward and refine over many lifetimes.

Genius works exactly the same way.

🙂

redbear2 said:Not quite. I’m just making an observation.

I don't see any other reason why people would credit success to some imaginary entity or the "chosen one" narrative.

My point is that someone's success belongs to them—it's their own doing, not the result of some higher power picking them out of a crowd. On the flip side, a lot of people in this thread try to diminish what people have actually achieved by chalking it up to fate, destiny, or whatever else they want to call it.

"He isn't special because of his hard work; he was just chosen. If he had picked me, I'd be special too." Give me a break. 👏

It’s pretty clear that this observation comes from an internal drive to be heard.

redbear2 said:Not quite. I’m just making an observation.

I don't see any other reason why people would credit success to some imaginary entity or the "chosen one" narrative.

My point is that someone's success belongs to them—it's their own doing, not the result of some higher power picking them out of a crowd. On the flip side, a lot of people in this thread try to diminish what people have actually achieved by chalking it up to fate, destiny, or whatever else they want to call it.

"He isn't special because of his hard work; he was just chosen. If he had picked me, I'd be special too." Give me a break. 👏

I honestly don't know what you consider "success" or what criteria you're using, so I can't really wrap my head around why you're treating other people's comments as evidence to prove they're wrong. It seems like we're talking about two completely different things here.

From what I've gathered by reading this thread and the various replies, nobody is actually trying to dismiss personal effort. In fact, quite the opposite.

When it comes specifically to Nikola Tesla, he explained his own experience quite extensively.

My argument is that a genuine contribution to the advancement of the human race is directly linked to the onostran (which isn't some distant "somewhere else," but is inherently immanent—something Nikola Tesla himself confirmed regarding his own experience).

Ideas aren't just figments of our imagination or inventions of the human mind. They are fundamental principles that exist and are simply discovered. This discovery doesn't happen through the mental process of conceptualizing reality through thought; rather, these truths are perceived through a process of clearing the mind—because those ideas aren't even accessible through standard thought processes.

This isn't about crediting "effort" to anyone or anything. It's about describing a natural phenomenon. Anything else is just the classic human fiction regarding what reality actually is (an illusion).

“Aristotle taught us that there is an unmoved Entelechy at the heart of the universe—a driving force where thought serves as its primary attribute. I truly believe the entire cosmos is interconnected, both in its physical structure and its spiritual essence. There is a core within the universe from which we draw all our strength and inspiration; it’s a constant pull, and I can feel the power and values it radiates to maintain universal balance. I haven't fully unlocked the secrets of this core, but when I try to define it physically, I think of it as light. When I try to grasp it spiritually, it reveals itself as beauty and compassion. Anyone who holds this conviction feels a sense of true strength. Their work becomes a source of joy because they realize they are just one note in a vast, universal harmony.”

~ Nikola Tesla

redbear2 said:🤦

Take all the credit away from people for what they actually achieved and just hand it over to some higher power.

I guess that gives you a convenient way to justify your own failures. 👏

Are you really feeling that inadequate? Is that why you need to play amateur psychologist and tear others down on this forum just to soothe your own conscience? That’s a pretty strange impulse to have...

steelmarlin19 said:I totally agree—the Big Bang isn't even remotely proven, yet millions of people swallow it whole.

It just goes to show that when someone tries to force an explanation without any "higher power" to back them up, it turns into nothing more than unproven dogma.

It’s honestly wrong that kids all over the country are taught things in school that have ZERO evidence behind them.

If you pick up almost any textbook discussing how the world began, 99% of the time they’ll insist the universe started with the Big Bang.

Only about 1% actually ADMIT that it's just the most popular theory out there—meaning it’s entirely possible the universe didn't even start that way. So, who exactly is pulling the wool over our eyes? ☕

Look, it’s just a hypothesis. There is absolutely no way for the limited human mind to prove it using such restricted methods. Psychologically speaking, it just gives people a sense of comfort, which leads to the massive misconception that it's an absolute fact.

steelmarlin19 said:Okay, so you're talking about "Perfect Teachers."

But my point was about "ordinary" people hitting some kind of "epoch-making" breakthrough.

That "discovery" isn't really a discovery—it's stuff that's been known for ages! It's just granted to certain individuals so they can pass it along to all of humanity. That's what I meant! Cheers, ☕

I'm with you. Those massive breakthroughs usually belong to truly brilliant minds, even if those people seem humble or "ordinary." Most of the fundamental building blocks of history happened by "chance"—their very essence is metaphysical.

In contrast, look at how much stuff is pushed today as scientific "fact" just because some supposed "genius" dreamed it up. They claim to have "proof," but it's really just psychological persuasion to make people believe things are settled (like the Big Bang theory). We're talking about delusions being treated as truth, which is dangerous—and when you apply that kind of flawed logic to medicine, it turns into a straight-up tragedy.

steelmarlin19 said:There have always been those "chosen" ones and the true prodigies.

And they're still out there today!

You can't just nominate yourself for that club—it seems like someone else has to make the call. Cheers, ☕

Perfect Teachers sit at the very top of the spiritual hierarchy, tasked with lifting up a stumbling human consciousness. They take on this work because of their eon-spanning existence as Perfect Beings. Essentially, this is a potential that undergoes Manifestation during an incarnation; they are the direct instrument of the Creator's will—God works through them, making Him the true Manifestation. Think of them like the Sun; at any given time, there are only a handful of them. They serve as the real saviors of American civilization, even if people aren't even aware they exist. Over long stretches of time, roughly every 700 to 1,400 years, five Perfect Teachers bring the Avatar Consciousness into physical form (Zoroaster, Ram, Krishna, Buddha, Christ, Muhammad, Meher Baba).

While some groups might be waiting for their Krishna or Christians are looking for the return of Christ, they are actually looking for the same entity. It’s the same Christ and the same Krishna acting as one single Avatar. There is only one Avatar, who appears whenever there is a desperate need for God's Consciousness to take a physical shape—specifically when human consciousness hits its absolute lowest, most malicious point.

slycyclist26 said:Maybe that’s the secret. People like Albert Einstein and Nikola Tesla just didn't let success go to their heads. They didn't get complacent.
They kept that bit of self-doubt alive... which isn't easy at all.
That's how they let their talent really take flight...

The distinction between Einstein and Tesla is actually vital. One was a brilliant mind who never fully realized or utilized his Highest Self. Take Tesla, for example—he left behind a patent describing an experiment to measure electromagnetic wave speeds at roughly 261 miles/s. This essentially renders the idea of light speed being the universe's absolute speed limit obsolete. The fact that modern thinkers can't grasp this isn't because the math is wrong; it's because they are operating within the limits of a limited mind. A limited mind produces limited knowledge. Based on that flawed data, people pour billions and billions of dollars into trying to force complex imaginations into reality. Meanwhile, an enlightened mind operates *from* that reality, working to clear the fog of the limited mind and its petty impulses. When you look at transmitting subtle energy rays related to spiritual energies, our current tech is like a snail compared to the speed at which those energies move through the cosmos—an energetic creation where everything exists in perfect, harmonious connection based on an unimaginable flow of knowledge.

The second point is that an enlightened mind is a phenomenon we call Nikola Tesla, when in essence, it represents a fundamental drive to serve human civilization (providing the bedrock upon which all future progress is built).
That "Tesla" spirit existed long before the man himself. It appears in those individuals who step up right when human civilization hits a wall. Just as someone once had to snatch fire from the lightning, these figures act beyond mere instinct to discover, apply, and expand our mastery over the world—whether it was taming animals or leading the first agricultural revolutions. Someone, somewhere, is always clearing the path for the evolution of the human race.

Nicholas Gonzalez8 said:Honestly, these two quotes from Albert Einstein really nail the point home:

"I have no special talent. I am only passionately curious."

"It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer."

Beyond his specific contributions—which fall under the umbrella of brilliant imagination since Einstein wasn't an enlightened being—there are people who represent the very essence of human evolution. These individuals provide spiritual guidance that touches the soul on an almost incomprehensible level (think along the lines of Nikola Tesla and others). They act as perfect instruments for higher forces; their imagination doesn't spring from the limitations of the human mind, no matter how genius it may be, but rather from the Unknown—the creative principle of nature itself. True Masters operate from this plane, working through the unseen to influence the expansion of human consciousness. In contrast, society usually spends its energy celebrating those who simply become famous or popular due to their limited impact on the material world.

An Einsteinian reflection toward the end of his life:
"You might imagine that I can look back at my life's work with quiet satisfaction, but looking closer, it feels entirely different. There isn't a single concept in my work that I am certain will remain standing in the future, and I feel completely uncertain, wondering if I was even on the right path..." This was from a letter Albert Einstein wrote to his friend Unknown in 1949; he also asked: "Why is it that nobody understands me, yet everyone loves me?"

hollowpuma762 said:There are a few reasons for that, but if you want the big one, it’s because the masculine principle is fundamentally about initiation and providing.

Also, let's be honest—your title is a bit clumsy.

So, what exactly is the masculine principle, and how does it compare to the feminine principle when you look at the different races across the planet?🤔

Karen Adams2 said:That is precisely where the issue lies; I have no desire to sit in judgment of anyone, but this feels so wrong, especially since it seems like those who are actually sick get some kind of discount.
I mean, we can't ignore the fact that $250 could be half a paycheck for some folks.
It makes it feel as though the right to achieve this kind of "enlightenment" is reserved only for a select few who can actually afford the entry fee.
I used to watch her videos quite often, and at the time, it all seemed very meaningful to me.
But once I saw the price tag attached to it... man... it somehow made the whole thing feel hollow.
I realize there is a massive amount of overhead involved, just like you mentioned (did you say 🤷 ? )
and that all those costs have to be covered, but still, this is just way too much.
I don't see the point of it all if everything can be viewed online for nothing? Why on earth is it priced so high?
And I don't think it's just about Anita; it applies to all these other seminars and techniques that claim to teach you things—it all comes with a hefty price tag.
To me, it starts to feel like if you want to be "spiritual," you also need to have a lot of money. In short, I think everyone here gets what I'm trying to say...😁

So, what’s the actual payoff? Is it getting something in two days for $250, or would it even matter if it were free?

I mean, the whole point is becoming "spiritual"—whether you pay $250 or get it for nothing. 🙂