Are men more spiritual than women?

Why does it seem like spiritual gurus, thinkers, and philosophers are almost always men?
Sure, you run into an occasional female spiritual leader, but most of the time, the spotlight is on men.
I'm not talking about your typical churchgoers; I mean those people who dive deep into metaphysics and question the core meaning of existence.
For instance, Bud suggests that while a woman can reach Nirvana, it’s a much steeper climb for her because she's supposedly more prone to those impulsive drives from the limbic system.
Is this because women are biologically wired to stay out of leadership roles, leaving that space for men? Or could there be a connection to what the Bible says—that the man should be the head of the woman, just as Christ is the head of the man?
What are your thoughts?

Justin Garcia7 said:Why does it seem like spiritual gurus, thinkers, and philosophers are almost always men?
Sure, you run into an occasional female spiritual leader, but most of the time, the spotlight is on men.
I'm not talking about your typical churchgoers; I mean those people who dive deep into metaphysics and question the core meaning of existence.
For instance, Bud suggests that while a woman can reach Nirvana, it’s a much steeper climb for her because she's supposedly more prone to those impulsive drives from the limbic system.
Is this because women are biologically wired to stay out of leadership roles, leaving that space for men? Or could there be a connection to what the Bible says—that the man should be the head of the woman, just as Christ is the head of the man?
What are your thoughts?

Predrag Raos flipped the script on this one, arguing that Catholic priests within their institutions actually protect the true teachings of Christ regarding humility and focusing on the immaterial through the work of the nuns, who really make up the bulk of many religious orders. 😁 But honestly, I kind of agree with the idea that women aren't naturally wired for leadership roles, regardless of what those loud feminists say. It doesn't make them any less valuable or important, though. Just like a man isn't biologically programmed to be a mother, which doesn't make him less worthy either. I feel like when a woman tries to step into a male role and vice versa, it creates this total lack of harmony and all the chaos we see in the world today.

I mean, look—men tend to have much bigger egos, so it’s just part of our nature to want to step up as the guru or the leader in the room. But if you look at the story, the serpent seduced > first, and then it went through > to get to >... so, honestly? It’s probably more likely that women are more prone to sin and just aren't quite as spiritually grounded as men are. 😁

Dana Davis5 said:I mean, look—men tend to have much bigger egos, so it’s just part of our nature to want to step up as the guru or the leader in the room. But if you look at the story, the serpent seduced > first, and then it went through > to get to >... so, honestly? It’s probably more likely that women are more prone to sin and just aren't quite as spiritually grounded as men are. 😁

One could argue that any narrative can be twisted to suit a specific agenda. Is it not possible that the woman was simply the only one possessing enough intellect and a genuine thirst for knowledge to be swayed, while Adam was perfectly content just staring at Eve's naked form? 😁

Ryan Wilson2 said:One could argue that any narrative can be twisted to suit a specific agenda. Is it not possible that the woman was simply the only one possessing enough intellect and a genuine thirst for knowledge to be swayed, while Adam was perfectly content just staring at Eve's naked form? 😁

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Oh, absolutely. It’s just the inevitable logical outcome of having a larger head combined with being an average idiot.😵

Personally, I think Americans are definitely the most spiritual men out there—which explains why they go around insulting everyone else's parents instead of their own...☕

Even in those tired, chauvinistic little stories, Eve is clearly the bigger icon because she actually owns up to her mistakes, unlike Adam, who just points the finger at her for everything. Even in the Old Testament, you have female prophets: "Then the prophetess Miriam, sister of Aronov, took a tambourine in her hand..."🙂 And then you have three wise women who were basically legends in their own right: Esther, Judith, Ruth... but my mind goes primarily to Mary, who conceived, gave birth to, and raised Jesus; both the Bible and the Quran honor her just as much as they do Him. And let's not forget figures like Hildegard von Bingen, Joan of Arc, Mother Teresa, or Simone de Beauvoir...

Interesting thought... seems like it’s usually the woman who ends up being the source of all the drama for a man.😁

Totally agree that it’s probably just a guy's ego driving him to act like some kind of guru... just to get women on his side.🙂

Men tend to overthink things—too much "philosophy" and not enough feeling. They get caught up in dissecting definitions that don't even exist, and if they actually do experience a moment of true clarity—rarely in their hearts, more often just in their heads—they immediately want everyone else to acknowledge it so they can play the leader.

Women, on the other hand, often struggle with a lack of inner certainty. They tend to overcomplicate the obvious, with emotional shifts that swing as wildly as the phases of the moon... which only serves to cloud what is actually clear.

So, until they find that sense of Oneness, both sides remain equally disconnected from the spiritual. 🙂

Betty Ramos said:Men tend to overthink things—too much "philosophy" and not enough feeling. They get caught up in dissecting definitions that don't even exist, and if they actually do experience a moment of true clarity—rarely in their hearts, more often just in their heads—they immediately want everyone else to acknowledge it so they can play the leader.

Women, on the other hand, often struggle with a lack of inner certainty. They tend to overcomplicate the obvious, with emotional shifts that swing as wildly as the phases of the moon... which only serves to cloud what is actually clear.

So, until they find that sense of Oneness, both sides remain equally disconnected from the spiritual. 🙂

I think there's some truth to this.
If we set aside the massive impact of patriarchy throughout history—where women were basically pushed to the sidelines in every single field—the main reason men and women perceive spirituality differently comes down to where they are centered.
Men are mostly head-oriented (and I don't just mean high-level philosophy; I mean that ego-driven, gut-level focus), whereas women, on average, lean more toward being emotional or intuitive—basically, heart-centered.

Men are driven more directly by sexual instinct, while for women, it’s a bit more diffused. Since men are generally more problem-solving oriented and possess a certain level of will—maybe even a dash of recklessness—once they decide to stop wasting energy on external impulses, they can pivot relatively quickly toward those higher mental centers (which is where "spirituality" supposedly happens).
On the flip side, women aren't as hindered by sexuality; they find it easier to lift their energy up to the heart (which could also be called "spirituality"), but then they usually lose interest in going further because the physical sensations—the secondary sexual organs and all that—tend to distract them.
That’s why I think women have a harder time than men distinguishing between love and sex, while men, on average, are less capable of true love (though, if you let that energy flow through your core, you end up experiencing a version of it whether you want to or not).

The rise of these "mainstream" religions basically paved the way for patriarchy... Christianity, Islam.

Back then, women were totally equal to men. They hunted alongside them, fought in battles, and held vital roles in spiritual practices... I honestly don't see why they'd be any less capable of spirituality unless it's forced upon them... or if they just accept that narrative.

Power is the root of everything here. We all stem from it, so I really don't believe anyone is "handicapped" by their gender in that context...🙂

It’s funny how we all suddenly think we’ve achieved some sort of grand enlightenment once we’ve indulged in substances. How do you even begin to explain what things like opium or mescaline actually do to the human psyche? Throughout history, various Native American tribes used these substances because they believed it was a direct line to the divine—though, looking back, it’s hard not to see that as a fundamental misunderstanding of how the spiritual realm works. It wasn't about accessing another world; it was just a chemical shortcut to a feeling they couldn't otherwise reach. We see evidence of this everywhere, from ancient Egyptian mummies to the habits of Greek philosophers. Does a drug actually create spirituality? Or does it simply warp the lens through which we view reality? Some people argue that being under the influence allows for a deeper, more profound perception of the universe, perhaps even making them feel sharper or more spiritually attuned, even if it's just an illusion created by the brain.

Where I grew up, the math was always flipped the other way: Sunday services were about 60% women and maybe 40% men. But if you showed up for a weekday afternoon service? It was overwhelmingly female—we’re talking 90% women! 😁

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And honestly, even those guys showing up on Sundays... most of them are only there because their wives practically dragged them through the church doors in the first place!

Justin Garcia7 said:Why does it seem like spiritual gurus, thinkers, and philosophers are almost always men?
Sure, you run into an occasional female spiritual leader, but most of the time, the spotlight is on men.
I'm not talking about your typical churchgoers; I mean those people who dive deep into metaphysics and question the core meaning of existence.
For instance, Bud suggests that while a woman can reach Nirvana, it’s a much steeper climb for her because she's supposedly more prone to those impulsive drives from the limbic system.
Is this because women are biologically wired to stay out of leadership roles, leaving that space for men? Or could there be a connection to what the Bible says—that the man should be the head of the woman, just as Christ is the head of the man?
What are your thoughts?

There are a few reasons for that, but if you want the big one, it’s because the masculine principle is fundamentally about initiation and providing.

Also, let's be honest—your title is a bit clumsy.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Where I grew up, the math was always flipped the other way: Sunday services were about 60% women and maybe 40% men. But if you showed up for a weekday afternoon service? It was overwhelmingly female—we’re talking 90% women! 😁

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And honestly, even those guys showing up on Sundays... most of them are only there because their wives practically dragged them through the church doors in the first place!

I totally get that, but man, those services can be so incredibly boring sometimes. I don't think that really has anything to do with being spiritual, I guess.🥱

hollowpuma762 said:There are a few reasons for that, but if you want the big one, it’s because the masculine principle is fundamentally about initiation and providing.

Also, let's be honest—your title is a bit clumsy.

So, what exactly is the masculine principle, and how does it compare to the feminine principle when you look at the different races across the planet?🤔

In my book, spiritual gurus and self-help experts are nothing more than glorified con artists. 🤷

redbear2 said:I couldn't care less about this kind of nonsense.

redbear2 said:In my book, spiritual gurus and self-help experts are nothing more than glorified con artists. 🤷

Personally, I think posts like this are just pure filler.

swiftpanther26 said:I totally get that, but man, those services can be so incredibly boring sometimes. I don't think that really has anything to do with being spiritual, I guess.🥱

It really just comes down to finding the right priest. Personally, I used to prefer going to Father Bolobanić—he was an exorcist, you know? And judging by the chatter, people find Father Stojić’s services pretty captivating too. 😲😂 😲

redbear2 said:In my book, spiritual gurus and self-help experts are nothing more than glorified con artists. 🤷

Well, this guy isn't one of them.
http://www.nytimes.com/article/man-moves-to-tiny-cabin

LEFT DUBAI TO SETTLE IN KOKOCAK
He spent his life in seven-star hotels, handed over a multi-million dollar company to a friend, and decided to move into a tiny shack!

But the point is, he isn't trying to play the guru role at all.

And most importantly, he clearly hasn't lost his edge. But his followers? They seem to be missing something similar:
http://wsj.com/articles/lifestyle-trends

Ryan Wilson2 said:One could argue that any narrative can be twisted to suit a specific agenda. Is it not possible that the woman was simply the only one possessing enough intellect and a genuine thirst for knowledge to be swayed, while Adam was perfectly content just staring at Eve's naked form? 😁

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Physical strength was essentially the sole male advantage.
Now that technological progress has effectively neutralized that edge, they’re attempting to claim spirituality as their own domain...
Most of these other theories are merely fabrications by men—mostly those who are inherently inferior—designed to maintain a sense of dominance and continue pushing women around.

Jeffrey Fisher5 said:🙏

Physical strength was essentially the sole male advantage.
Now that technological progress has effectively neutralized that edge, they’re attempting to claim spirituality as their own domain...
Most of these other theories are merely fabrications by men—mostly those who are inherently inferior—designed to maintain a sense of dominance and continue pushing women around.

It’s true that plenty of men push women around. But I think these folks would be the ones doing the pushing:
http://liberty-policy.blogspot.com/2...e-duhovno.html

It goes without saying that America is in a deep crisis right now. And I’m not talking about the statistical recession—though that exists—I’m talking about a total crisis of mindset.

A crisis can actually be a good thing, though; it can act as a catalyst for a shift in perspective. Rational people expect that changing our mindset should lead us toward more freedom and free markets—less government interference, lower taxes, fewer regulations, and fewer hurdles for those who actually create value.

Of course, you also see these neo-revolutionary attempts to mess with natural laws and the natural order. They try to call into question the classic principles of liberty and property—principles that, whenever they've been applied properly, have brought prosperity.

In a democracy, it's hard for anyone to argue against electoral and political freedom. Naturally, every ideology comes with its own price tag and consequences, especially when people get swept up in ideas that sound undeniably beautiful on the surface. I mean, who could possibly be against environmental protection and green solutions? Countless private and non-profit initiatives have already provided plenty of voluntary market-based solutions for a cleaner, healthier environment. That is what true civilization does.

So why should government policy be forcing a specific agenda for a "green economy"? It’s all a matter of degree, really. If past policies had been so radical in protecting the planet—say, by strictly preserving green spaces from construction—well, I wonder where these ecofeminists would even live. At least not in houses or apartments.

Anyway, the reason I’m writing this is because of Mirela Holy’s book, *The Mythical Aspect of Ecofeminism*. One of the subheadings specifically discusses the relationship between ecofeminism and "new spirituality."

Especially in the bedroom. 😲 😂 😲

If that spiritualist guy from the Midwest showed up on Maui to visit these ecofeminists, heaven knows which side would end up being the oppressed one. 😂

By the way, those women on Maui have a very specific nickname:
Back in 2006, when a group of girls arrived on Maui looking to live in harmony with nature, the locals were skeptical—some even suspicious. They earned all sorts of nicknames, but the one that stuck particularly well was "neither women nor devils."

At least they’re honest about it: THEY SAID GOODBYE TO CIVILIZATION 'We wouldn't mind if some man joined us...''