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Harold Evans4 said:I’m not changing my tone. I updated the thread title (did you even read my reply above, velvetbadger172?). My opening post explains everything. I’ve also posted several times telling everyone to stay on topic.
If you want to debate, there are plenty of other threads for that, plus the chat room where you can talk freely. There are even specific threads about small businesses and income levels... (like what you were talking about in that closed thread).

Should I change how I moderate every single time some random user criticizes me?

By the way, I thought I had beef with velvetbadger172... how come you're getting hit with a pile of warnings while velvetbadger172 is complaining about getting seven in one month? 🤔:

I don't get the sarcasm. You've already tried to insult me with those false insinuations. I didn't see your response, so I'll just say it again if I have to.
Harold Evans4 said:Mastered the topic? Based on your explanation, you think I need to train you guys like dogs. Look, you didn't want to stay on topic, so I don't see the harm in the thread being gone, especially since it wasn't serving a purpose anyway. I have no idea what you think my "job" is here, but I'm not crazy enough to beg users every single day to behave. Take it or leave it. Bye.

As for the second part, I'm not playing the victim... you wrote the complaint and you're acting like the victim here. No matter how you spin it, there will always be someone complaining (if not to the mods, then via DM). Locking a thread is just a tool, especially when people refuse to cooperate after plenty of warnings.

Just purely informative. What's your suggestion?
Should I give everyone on the last three pages an "off-topic" warning, which is partially what I did?
Should I give everyone on the last three pages a "rule violation" warning, which would result in several bans?
Should I skip the warnings entirely and just issue a tenth warning in a few weeks? Or a tenth one in two days? And so on.
Should I beg you all to act maturely and civilized in discussions as if my life depended on it?

You didn't master the topic and it failed. Instead of "begging," you should have handed out warnings on time to keep the thread alive.
What do you mean by "it had no function"? You think the thread was useless?

I got warned and banned even though I wasn't trolling—I even provided examples. I'll ask again: where is the trolling? I didn't insult anyone or provoke anyone. I wanted to contribute constructively, while others did the opposite, and that's why you closed the thread.

Look, I'm not a moderator and I don't know every rule, but couldn't you have warned individuals privately when they broke rules? That way everyone knows who you're talking to. Then warn them again if they persist. After a third or fourth warning, it's clear they are intentionally provoking, and then you ban them.
The way you did it, handing out warnings after the fact once everything already went south, just looks like you're covering your own tracks.

I still say that Darude ruined this thread. In my opinion, you were way too lenient.
It's obvious who the trolls are and who came here to provoke and insult based on their posts and "arguments."
Harold Evans4 said:What's your point?

Look, it’s not my fault I had to lock this thread. Most of you guys are treating this like an off-topic lounge instead of staying on track. Like you said yourself, the topic is actually useful—it's just that your posts aren't sticking to it. I already gave you several warnings about this, too. You can find the proof right there in my last explanation.
You’re acting like I have a grudge against you. It's true I had to step in before because you were veering off track, but you aren't special. I could list ten other people who got those same warnings—including Darude, whom you brought up. Also, saying I need to "rein in" someone is a weird way to put it. Sounds like you're talking about an animal.
So, should I just comment on your post title and that word "unprofessionalism"? It’s a lose-lose situation for me. If I issue a warning, you'll just claim I'm piling it on until I end up banning you, but if I don't say anything, I'm failing at my job. Do you actually want me to moderate here or not?
I’d be happiest if I could just pop onto the forum once a week, catch up on the threads that actually interest me, and learn something new. If everyone just stuck to the topics and played by the rules, I wouldn't have to hand out warnings or deal with any drama. You think I do this because I'm bored? Or like there's some big payoff? Maybe. Regardless, I try to keep my moderation objective and fair. I usually prefer sending a quick warning rather than jumping straight to a ban, unless we're talking about those messy Tesla threads—those have their own set of strict rules.
People love to lecture the mods when we don't jump on a notable post within fifteen minutes. You see comments like, "Hey mods, why are you letting these trolls run wild?" as if this were a live Twitch stream where I need to react instantly to everything. Then people act shocked when they get flagged for constantly nitpicking the moderation.

I trimmed down the quote to just the essentials.
So, I close an old thread because it was going off the rails, start a fresh one, rename it, and write a massive intro. I even left eight moderator warnings spread across nineteen pages just to try and get everyone back on track. Instead, people ignored the rules and spent three whole pages arguing about something else entirely. Naturally, I had to penalize a bunch of posts and lock the thread. Now, suddenly, I’m being told I'm doing a bad job moderating? Give me a break. 🙂

The point? I already said it above.

You dropped some pretty heavy insinuations in your opening post that just aren't true. I already laid out the facts in my first reply in bold so I wouldn't have to repeat myself. You kept demanding everyone stick to the topic, yet you let Darude run wild. He completely derailed this thread by picking fights and insulting anyone who disagreed with him. If you had stepped in and shut that down sooner, this discussion would still be on track. Either hand out an off-topic penalty or move the drama over to the chat.

The previous thread about how much money you need for a "normal" life was a bit of a mess. It’s impossible to pin down a specific number because everyone defines "normal" differently. This new topic is much better designed. It could actually work if people just stuck to what was said in the opening post and followed the rules—specifically, just being decent to one another during a discussion.

I’ve gotten seven bans from you in just one month?! Seriously. I’ll be right in the middle of a solid discussion about how people can cut down their grocery bills, explaining the actual logic behind it, and then some random parachute jumper drops in. They aren't even part of the conversation—just a classic troll throwing out a single line like, "If small towns solved all life's problems, nobody would move to the city." Then, they vanish before the debate even gets going.
I wasn't talking about living in the countryside or growing your own food. I was strictly talking about cutting down on grocery costs.

I'll just say it: surviving on nothing in the countryside looks much better than doing it in the city. Another user actually backed this up by mentioning a family that raised and put three kids through college out in rural America just by farming. If they had tried that in a major US city without an income, they would have been totally broke and starving.
Where’s the trolling in that?

Don't take this as me whining about unfair bans, though.
I'm telling you, you haven't "mastered the topic." You can tell because this thread eventually devolved into constant arguing and heavy chat. It started as a great discussion with useful info on what it costs to live a "normal" life.

It’s like what I mentioned on the PŽK thread. The same thing happens in the "Comparison" thread where a few users intentionally troll, insult people, and go off-topic for ages. That’s an old problem that existed long before you became a moderator.
The latest, funniest example is when I quoted "Starbucks closed its branch in Munich."🤣

Now that this cost-of-living thread is closed, you're acting like a victim of unruly users who won't stay on track. In reality, you have all the tools needed to keep the discussion civil. I shouldn't have to explain this to you, and I'm not trying to take your job.
Just like I mentioned four days ago, moderator Harold Evans4 locked a potentially great thread.

His approach was unprofessional, arbitrary, and dismissive toward certain members. He kept dropping red warnings—eight of them over 19 pages—thinking he was enforcing order, but his own mistakes eventually caught up with him.
On the flip side, he was super lenient with others. We see this same thing happening in the "Comparing life in America vs. moving abroad" thread (costs, services, bureaucracy, etc.).

From the start, he insisted on sticking strictly to the topic. To quote him: "Please stick to the thread title. We don't care about prices in Ireland, Germany, or Sudan... We have separate threads for foreign countries, so keep those discussions there.

Also, don't philosophize too much about quality of life. We've had pointless debates, like when someone tried comparing Indianapolis to New York City.

The problem is, his opening argument was flawed and just plain wrong.
Whether he realized it or not, he conflated two different topics (the comparison of life in America vs. the "exodus" thread) when using this bolded part as an argument.
I actually discussed that in the other thread—comparing the cost and quality of life in NYC, New York City, and New York City against Indianapolis. That ended up upsetting some users, believe it or not.
I used Numbeo as a tool to show that you can live a high-quality life even in smaller cities. I constantly faced insulting and condescending comments for that, which were mostly tolerated, even when they turned personal.

By writing that intro, moderator Harold Evans4 basically took a side and sent a clear message to me, even though I wasn't doing that in the previous thread (How much money do you need for a "normal" life?).

My recent warning on the thread—which happened because the mods couldn't handle an obvious troll and hater like Darude—was supposedly meant to "cool down passions," I guess.

The constant off-topic posts, trolling, undermining, insults, and the fact that the thread devolved into a chat are entirely the moderator's fault. The topic is good and useful, and all the tools to manage it are in the moderator's hands.

In the end, the moderator closed the thread, claiming, "This has become ridiculous with how much you ignore warnings, but then again, you love filing appeals whenever things don't go your way."
He was clearly talking only to me (since I'm the only one who filed an appeal regarding a ban), yet he didn't even bother to give me a response to my appeal.

It looks like I'm being held responsible for the thread closing (even though I only contributed 29 out of 374 posts—you can tell how relevant mine were). I flatly refuse that. It's strictly on the moderator, who failed to take control of the thread from the very beginning.
Living standards in Europe 2018 in Economy ·
dustyfalcon3 said:And hey, Minim, are you actually satisfied with the arguments being thrown back at you? You've got the usual velvetbadger172 over here, plus one lone "Amen" accompanied by a little prayer emoji (awwww). 😁 Still, I suppose even that could be considered a response in its own way, couldn't it?

"I don't know who you are or where you're coming from," but do you want me to drop links here or put them in my signature (though there wouldn't be room for everything anyway)? I could talk about the far-right extremists in Congress, the Ku Klux Klan across America, oppressed groups being radicalized into suicide bombers, and all sorts of other terrorists.

Go ahead, copy and paste this into your signature. I'm not asking for permission.
Living standards in Europe 2018 in Economy ·
Joshua Price2 said:I might be missing the subtext here, but I’m still struggling to grasp the exact roots of this skepticism.

I can certainly wrap my head around potential data processing errors or the sheer difficulty of analyzing complex macroeconomic trends, but I'm just not seeing any glaring methodological flaws.

I’m guessing you might be questioning whether the raw, primary data used in the analysis is actually authentic or even locally sourced? If that's the case, I'd love to know what triggered that thought. Thanks!👍

Minim, you have a cool nickname (it's Dr. Evil, isn't it?)🤣
I wasn't trying to write this like a riddle.
But let me clear things up for you.

Take the examples I mentioned—the Happiness Index, that Durex "study" on romantic conquests, the CO2 emission tests on German cars,
global bookmakers claiming the US is only the 9th favorite to win Euro 2020)...
we can also add this Gallup poll

It’s exactly because of results like these that I doubt the authenticity and truth of these studies, analyses, polls, projections, and guesses.

Do you think all these examples are just my paranoia?

My bigger issue is our mainstream media. They uncritically "analyze" these "studies," and the public swallows them whole, creating their own complexes.
And they aren't good. You can't make it to the finals with them.
Living standards in Europe 2018 in Economy ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:Does it always have to be the same group of people killing every single thread? Seriously, enough already.

I agree, enough is enough. I'm not even sure how to describe it.
But look, there's still a post up here calling America just some random country. That's a pretty dangerous claim, and definitely out of place in an economics discussion.

I know it's tough to separate politics from economics, but this really makes no sense.
Kudos for cleaning up Absurdistan and Uhljebistan.
Living standards in Europe 2018 in Economy ·
Mark Harris66 said:Go ahead and criticize the bad stuff in America. I spent years doing the exact same thing over in the tourism threads back when I was a mod for nine years—but blaming everything negative on the whole country is getting a bit extreme...
We’ve gotta stay grounded here. Praise what works, call out what doesn't, and actually offer some ideas on how to fix the mess. Let's be constructive instead of just being destructive!

👍
Living standards in Europe 2018 in Economy ·
Joshua Price2 said:I'm curious why you're being so skeptical about the U.S. Census Bureau data. This is the chief editor's report https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilio-d.../?locale=de_DE, and his references actually seem pretty solid.

On a side note, GDP calculations do factor in housing costs, and for homeowners, they include the opportunity cost of rent. If you want to dig into the actual methodology, you can find everything here: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/inc...ts-definitions

As far as housing goes, if you look at the tables showing the percentage of income spent on accommodation, you'll see that the US is actually right up there in a rather unglamorous way. That totally debunked the idea that housing costs here are "no big deal" compared to the rest of the world. And that’s not even counting the situation where someone lives in a three-bedroom house owned by their parents—which was bought with a mortgage that inflation basically swallowed whole back in the day—because, in my book, that still counts as living with your folks. Then there's the case of inherited property, like the place late grandma Janja left behind; she had a massive 1,100 sq ft apartment right in downtown Miami because her husband worked for Customs. 🤦🤣

I'm skeptical of the U.S. Census Bureau because:
It's the same reason I don't trust the famous Index.
The same reason I doubt Durex's "studies" about finding the best lovers.
The same reason I question CO2 emission stats for German cars.
The same reason I'm skeptical of top-tier bookmakers when they claim America is only the 9th favorite to win the World Cup 2020.
https://www.oddschecker.com/football/euro-2020/winner
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Nosy banks in Banking, Insurance & Loans ·
Anyone here ever pulled a decent chunk of change—say, $5,000—from PayPal into a US bank account? I’m wondering if anyone ran into questions from their bank or the IRS. I just sold some items and want to know if anyone actually got flagged by the tax man for stuff like this.
Also, does the IRS actually reach out about individual account transactions, or is that all just rumors and speculation?
Everything you need for a Midwest wedding in Weddings ·
Has anyone here hosted a wedding at Caracas, or maybe attended one there? I'm curious what you all think. What’s the capacity like, and how are the prices? Also, are restaurants generally more budget-friendly than dedicated wedding venues?
Thanks
What antivirus are you guys using? in Software ·
When you mention Bitdefender, which one are we talking about:
Bitdefender Antivirus Plus v10 or
Bitdefender Antivirus Plus v10

I want to know which one is faster, which is better, which runs smoothly, and what the actual difference is.
Roger Miller8 said:Check out this image. My old man can't even dream of doing this. There isn't a setting out there you can't find. Two pages per sheet, four pages, flipping left to right, top to bottom, mirroring... everything is doable.

That's exactly what I meant.

I don't have any duplex options on my end. It only lets me adjust color levels.
Is there some software that can handle this regardless of the printer? I'm using an HP.
Hey everyone, I need some help. Is there a specific program that lets me print Word docs, PDFs, or Firefox pages using this layout:

I’ve got about 200 pages to print as a study guide. I want two pages on the front (pages 1 and 2) and then pages 3 and 4 on the back. I don't want to have to manually flip every single sheet; I just want to print one side at a time and then flip the whole stack once.