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gentlefalcon said:How is it not? If people are trying to force me to sit in church pews, observe religious holidays, and go through confession, then it's religious.
It isn't a topic for psychology either, I'm certain of that; I’d appreciate being placed in the appropriate section, because I don't feel comfortable under the umbrella of psychology—I feel labeled and judged there.
So, if a child refuses to go somewhere, they must have a psychological issue. That's the logic, right?
The word "psyche" comes from the Greek for soul. My situation is being imposed from the outside; it doesn't originate from my own inner self. I would much rather be over in the Religion subforum than in Psychology.
I am asking to be moved back to Religion, because psychology is a science that deals with the human interior, whereas religious topics can't fall under science since they are rooted in faith. At the very least, put me under Spirituality. Labeling people like this just triggers a backlash in me. This kind of labeling is one of the evils of the 21st century. 👍
It feels as though my path is predetermined and others get to dictate where I belong.
"You have to go to school, you have to go to Church, you have to get vaccinated at school, you have to eat leeks, you have to shower regularly, you have to go to the Psychology forum"—it's a vicious circle, if you ask me. 🙂
Thomas Davis6 said:Man, reading about those Catholic psychologists makes me want to go to confession...😠
Society really ought to ban those people from practicing. But then again, we live in a broken society with broken standards—religions that destroy people's brains way faster and more intensely than Mr. Muscollo can scrub a floor stain.😁
Whenever I say that Catholic doctrine has only brought harm to people, I find proof in reality pretty quickly. It's just that most people find it easier to look the other way and let this stuff happen in a society where psychological and sociological insights should, by all rights, be shedding light on human behavior.
gentlefalcon said:I was forced to attend church services all through my childhood and teens. I did my First Communion, my Confirmation, and even sat through religious education classes in school after being confirmed. Eventually, I checked out of the parish activities entirely. I used to lie to my parents, telling them I wasn't attending, only for them to find out during Mass that I actually had been elsewhere. 🙂
Once I started college, they tried to push campus ministry on me, but I shut that down immediately. That was when they finally realized they weren't going to win this one. ☕
Religious fervor can be a dangerous thing. I've heard psychologists actually warn parents to be careful with how intense they get about religion, because it can end up severing family ties completely. In my case, I ended up cutting off entire branches of my family because they were such fanatics. They just wouldn't stop interrogating me about it.
I don't even want to fight them anymore; I just try to stay oblivious. I don't want to know which holidays are coming up or when Sunday is. The second Mom realizes I'm not at service, she starts her whole "conversion" routine, acting like she's struck by a sudden wave of guilt because she didn't raise me "properly." ☕
The alternative would be for me to start arguing with them about holy days, or fighting against the priest coming to the house—even though I'm standing right there when he visits. If I did that, Mom might soften up and try to be closer to me. She'd start hoping that maybe, just maybe, I've found my way back to the Church. Then the next Sunday rolls around, she sees nothing has changed, and she feels that sting of shame in front of the priest because everyone knows her kid doesn't show up. There was even a time they whispered that I was sneaking off to a different parish with my friends.
Mom honestly thinks the devil has taken hold of me. 😁 When I was a kid, maybe around 11 or 12, she actually wanted to call a psychologist because she’d been listening to some religious radio program that gives advice on how to help "lost souls" find the right path again.
Those people are real. There are certain "Catholic psychologists" whom parents bring their children to, hoping for a spiritual intervention. Under the thin veil of science, they basically label you as unfit for society. It’s funny, though—I just looked up the name and the street of one of these psychologists who supposedly "treats" kids for not attending Mass, and they don't even exist as legitimate scientists online.
It seems we're dealing with certain individuals who present themselves as experts while hiding behind a fake scientific persona.
gentlefalcon said:It’s my mother and most of my extended family, and honestly, I don't even visit them at all.
I haven't seen them in over six or seven years. In this situation, I actually have options.
I just have no interest in them.
When it comes to religion, there is no such thing as a diplomatic approach. The mere fact that you don't step foot in a church brands you as an outsider, an infidel, a sinner, a pagan, or just plain unstable.
The only way to navigate that is through endless patience, hypocrisy, and living a double life, but then you end up loathing yourself. 😁 Aside from the fact that it’s just Sundays, I suppose I could force myself to go—doing it 48 times a year, roughly 12 times a month, I might be able to stomach that somehow.
But you can't drag me into Madison Square Garden and demand that I sit there for seven or eight hours watching people howl, weep, wail, and collapse at my feet.
And you certainly can't expect me to show up for services on a weekday, either.
No, I’m not "gathering material." If it's midday, I am expected to cross myself, which I simply don't do. Every time we walk past a church or a shrine, I'm apparently supposed to make the sign of the cross.
They go to mass at least 150 times a year. During Christmas and Easter, they spend the entire week there, especially since those are national holidays. Mom goes to the early morning services, but Dad doesn't. Why shouldn't he go? He should have the right to choose. ☕
Then there are the five or six pilgrimages throughout the year: places like Lourdes, Fatima, Rome, or Santiago de Compostela. It’s one thing to visit those places as a tourist, but it’s quite another to spend seven or eight days glued to priests and walking from church to church, only seeing your own bed when you sleep.
gentlefalcon said:Spoiled or not, everyone should have the right to their own religious or non-religious choices. Isn't that what's written in the Declaration of Human Rights? ☕
I focus on things I love, I plan to finish my degree and get a job, hang out with friends, earn my own way, and live my life. I've already graduated; I didn't fail any years. Again, if I moved into a shared apartment, I'd be giving up a certain level of material security. And the job market isn't exactly booming right now either.
I've been listening to my parents' dictates since I was a child. Imagine what it's like growing up under the weight of tradition and intense religiosity. This didn't just start two or three years ago; it's been happening since birth, though their fanaticism really ramped up around 2005.
Back in 2005, I was 17. What could I have done back then? How could I have lived independently?
This isn't about whining; it's about the American story, about the reality of modern America. I am speaking on behalf of tens of thousands of young people.
gentlefalcon said:Look, I am finishing my degree, but I can't exactly push June or September deadlines back to April.🤣
It seems like you’ve completely missed the point here.🙂 😁
I was expecting some actual substance based on the depth of experience I carry myself.
Is going to Mass and practicing religion really what fascinates you?
The whole prayer meal thing just strikes me as ridiculous. I'm a practical person and I've honestly forgotten most of the prayers. Especially when they start cycling through five Ocenas, five Hail Marys, three Glory be to the Father, then intentions for the deceased, and then for people whose names you can't even recall. Apparently, doing all that on every single holiday is what makes life interesting for you.☕
silentcrane11 said:Good grief!!!
I guess you really do hate the Church if you're passing up such an easy, comfortable life—one that you could arguably secure just by showing up to Mass once in a while, at least while your parents are still around.🤣
gentlefalcon said:Maybe that’s just because of what the priest tells them during confession. 😉 So, my mom keeps coming at me with this whole lecture about how the priest said all faithful people have a moral obligation to spread the word about that sacred rite to their neighbors. It’s like she thinks she’s doing some kind of spiritual outreach every time we sit down for dinner. I have to tell her constantly—just leave me out of it entirely. I really don't need the updates.
You probably wouldn't believe me if I told you about the time I went to confession at a different parish across town. 🤣
What good is getting a postgraduate degree anyway? I’ll probably be out of the picture for two or three years before I find my way back here. The real question is whether anyone would actually foot the bill for my tuition, considering I have absolutely no interest in following the traditional path everyone else seems to obsess over. 😍 Their financial support is entirely dependent on how much respect I show them. It’s that simple. If I’m sitting in a pew at the local church every single Sunday, the money keeps flowing. But honestly, I have zero interest in putting on an act or pretending to be a devout believer just to keep the bank account full. Back when I was being forced to go against my will, my mother would grill me about every little detail of the service. She’d ask me what happened during the Mass, which specific letter was read, or what the Gospel was about, and she’d even demand descriptions like, "Tell me about the people reading the scriptures—what were they wearing?" Eventually, those interrogations made the whole experience so exhausting that I just couldn't stomach those forced visits anymore. 🤣
That’s exactly where the problem lies. I can't even live my own non-religious, secular life in peace because I’m stuck living under their roof. They basically dictate the reality of the household, spinning their own version of the truth and manufacturing whatever narrative suits them at any given moment.
Whenever I’m sticking to my fasting days, I can’t help but find myself spiraling into these deep, repetitive memories about how exactly they ended up buying that specific food in the first place.
Am I being too rigid? Look, if they want to spend three hundred days a year fasting, that’s their business. If they want to spend their entire lives inside a cathedral, more power to them. I really don't care what they do with their time, as long as I'm not forced to step foot in there myself. Honestly, the whole atmosphere gives me a terrible feeling, and I'd rather just stay far away from it.
My mom doesn't exactly spend her afternoons hovering over a stove cooking meat, but she’s got this uncanny, almost supernatural ability to sniff out when someone's been raiding the fridge for the good stuff. It doesn't matter if it's high-end deli meats, some artisanal prosciutto, or those premium smoked sausages we keep tucked away; she notices the second a single slice goes missing. It’s like she has a sixth sense for our charcuterie stash. 😂 I can't even face a simple piece of toast or a bowl of green salad right now. 🙄 I stay active, I’m constantly hitting the books, and I make sure to get out there and be social—basically, my life is a constant motion, and because of that, I need a serious amount of fuel to keep the engine running.
I honestly can't stand vegans. I’ve got people I know constantly nitpicking me just because I eat meat or carry products made from goat milk. They are such absolute fanatics about it.
For the last five or six years now, my dad hasn't really been an ally; he claims to be staying neutral, but let's be real, he always sides with my mom.
What kind of obligations could I possibly have on a Sunday at 6:00 PM? Absolutely none. They know my schedule inside and out.
I mean, seriously? Are we really doing this again? I feel like I’m losing my mind just sitting here watching this unfold! It’s like everyone just collectively decided to stop using their brains at the exact same time. Is that the plan now? Just total, absolute chaos? Because if so, mission accomplished, people! Honestly, I can't even—it’s just too much. One minute everything seems relatively normal, right? You think you've finally got a handle on things, and then BAM—someout else decides to throw a wrench in the whole machine just because they felt like it. Why? For what? Does anyone actually have a reason, or are we all just drifting aimlessly through this mess? It's exhausting, man. Truly. I’m sitting here, trying to make sense of it all, and I just keep hitting these massive walls of pure, unadulterated nonsense. It’s enough to make you want to just walk away from the keyboard entirely, but then again, I know I won't, because someone has to say it, right? Someone has to point out how ridiculous this whole situation has become! kaže:
They seriously wouldn't even help me out with housing costs—like, they actually refused to cover a new place for me just because I’m not exactly the "praise the Lord" type. Can you believe that? If I actually showed up at a church every Sunday like some good little citizen, they’d probably hand me the keys to a luxury condo in downtown Chicago without blinking an eye. It’s honestly ridiculous!🙄
Ugh, honestly? I’m so over it. Like, having to spend all that time sitting in church just makes me want to gag. If we actually did that every single day, I swear I wouldn't have to lift a finger for the rest of my life—which, hey, sounds like a dream, right?—but then I’d finally be "suitable" or whatever. You know, supposedly "desirable" enough to fit into one of those perfect, traditional American families everyone keeps preaching about. It’s just exhausting!
gentlefalcon said:I’m still finishing up my degree, and honestly, trying to scrape together $130,000 for a down payment on a condo feels impossible. 😁 Renting is just an endless money pit.
My point about being 23 was that I don't meet the credit requirements for a mortgage yet. It’s like everything changed; that level of fanaticism wasn't really a thing until about six years ago.
Karen Perez44 I can't even begin to explain this—honestly, where do I even start? It’s like, you think you know how things work, right? You think there's a logic to it, some kind of order... but then reality just hits you in the face! And don't get me started on the people who try to tell you otherwise. Seriously, what are they even thinking?! It's absolute madness. Every time I try to make sense of this mess, I end up going down a rabbit hole that makes my head spin. Is it just me, or is everything getting increasingly ridiculous? It feels like we're all just running around in circles while everyone pretends everything is perfectly fine. It's exhausting, man. Just totally exhausting.
Wait, so you're seriously asking what Transcendental Meditation is? Like, you don't know?! Honestly, where do we even start? It’s not just some random breathing exercise you pick up from a TikTok influencer or some overpriced wellness retreat in Malibu—it's way deeper than that! It’s this profound, ancient practice—think of it like a direct line to your soul or something—that helps you tap into that inner peace everyone keeps chasing while they're busy stressing over their 9-to-5s or whatever. It’s about connecting with that higher consciousness, man. It’s intense, it’s real, and honestly, if you aren't doing it, are you even really living? It’s all about that spiritual connection through meditation, nothing less!
I mean, seriously, what are we even doing here? Is anyone actually listening, or are we all just shouting into the void at this point? Because I feel like I’m losing my mind trying to make sense of this stuff! It’s like—okay, look—you think you’ve got a handle on things, you think you’re following the path, and then BAM, reality hits you in the face. Why is it always like that? Why can't things just be straightforward for once?! And don't even get me started on the people who act like they have it all figured out. You know the type. They walk around like they've reached enlightenment overnight, but honestly? It feels totally fake. Like, give me a break! We're all out here struggling, trying to find some kind of direction, and they're just... posing. It's exhausting! Does anyone else feel like they're just spinning their wheels while everyone else is cruising on a highway? It's infuriating! Just a total joke, really. I can't even begin to process this—seriously! Like, how are we even supposed to have a conversation when people just drop stuff like this without any context? It’s honestly exhausting. I feel like I’m constantly hitting a wall with these discussions lately. Does anyone else get that feeling? Where you're ready to dive in, but then everything just feels... off? Just my two cents, I guess. Anyway, what was I even saying? Right. This whole thing is just ridiculous.
So, I was just sitting here thinking about all the massive spiritual payoffs you get from doing Transcendental Meditation—you know, that deep, soul-level stuff—and honestly, where do I even start? It’s like, people think they’re getting a good deal with their basic meditation apps, but they have no clue what we're actually talking about here. Is it just about chilling out? No way. It’s so much deeper than that. We’re talking about actual spiritual growth, like, hitting those higher levels of consciousness that most people spend their whole lives just dreaming about. It’s wild! You start feeling this connection to everything, this sense of peace that doesn't just vanish the second you step back into the chaos of everyday life—like walking into a crowded Starbucks in downtown Chicago during rush hour, right? You’ve got that internal stillness even when everything around you is absolute madness. And let me tell you, the benefits aren't just some vague "feeling good" thing. It’s transformative. It changes how you see the world, how you handle stress, and honestly, how you interact with everyone else. It’s like upgrading your entire operating system instead of just installing a new wallpaper. Why settle for surface-level calm when you can actually tap into the profound spiritual depth that comes with this practice? It’s a total game-changer, seriously.
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