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swiftrider15 said:It’s honestly a joke. The US went all in on invading Iraq when they were targeting the Kurds, yet somehow, what Turkey is doing is perfectly acceptable.👎 By that logic, the US really should have stepped in against Turkey instead.☕
Laura Allen78 said:Where's the source on this?
graniteowl88 said:Equating antifascism with communism is nothing more than a transparent attempt to smear antifascism with the failures of communism. This tactic aims to dilute its significance and call its universal character into question.
22.06.2006Podgarić.
The President's speech. Stjepan Mason.And at the commemoration. Antifascist Struggle Day.
Richard Lee43 said:We are—mostly because America is filled with all sorts of human waste that just keeps weakening us further and further.☕
Kyle Morris7 said:International law is really only something that applies to the small and the weak, whereas the great powers and those with overwhelming military might never feel the need to abide by it...For a sick nationalist, the opinion of the global community is, quite obviously, completely irrelevant...
The leaders of this "world"—that is to say, the great powers or, more accurately, the imperialists—were garbage back then, and they remain garbage today. Their opinions can only be respected by those who possess a slave mentality...p.s.
(a recent example being the status of a legally convicted criminal—a Norac follower—and the statutes of Alka, regarding that Norac follower's continued "membership" within it)
Norac is a war hero, yet his verdict was handed down based on nothing more than hearsay dictated by Westernized frauds...to put it briefly: a criminal cannot, under any circumstances, be a patriot—because through their crimes or acts of genocide, they have compromised true patriotism and inflicted immeasurable damage upon their Homeland before both domestic and global audiences, according to all positive local and international Laws...
How can that not be possible? If someone saves a hundred lives, even if they later take one, they are still significantly more of a force for good than a force for evil...
The leaders of that "world"—you know, those major powers and imperialists—were absolute trash back then, and honestly, they still are today. I guess the only people who could actually respect their opinions are folks with a slave mentality.
I guess Norac was really a hero during the war, but his conviction seems like it was based on nothing more than hearsay pushed by those globalist interests.
If someone saves a hundred people but ends up taking one life later on, I guess they're still way more of a hero than a villain. Maybe.
bluerider63 said:Look, it's simple: being a true patriot means loving your own people while respecting everyone else. Someone who loves their own at the expense of others isn't a patriot, no matter how much they try to sell themselves that way. In history, both Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini caused massive damage, including to their own people, who had to live with the consequences for decades after the war. They couldn't possibly be called patriots because a real patriot wouldn't do anything to harm their own nation. Germany would probably be way more advanced today if it hadn't been for Hitler.
Kyle Morris7 said:One can certainly dispute a factual error, but you simply cannot argue against a different interpretation of the same event... if you actually tried to challenge one, you would see for yourself how difficult that is...
As for Pavelić, he was undeniably a patriot for America, yet simultaneously a criminal... I fail to see why those two things should be mutually exclusive... It is the exact same situation with Nedić. To some, he is a hero; to others, a villain. Ultimately, it all comes down to which sources you choose to trust and what your own perspective happens to be...
Kyle Morris7 said:I wouldn't call that a "American" view, really... because certainly not everyone thinks that way, and surely you must realize that anyone with an internet connection can edit Wikipedia... It’s mostly been written by those old-school Marxist historians or people who follow their school of thought, which is why they seem to dominate history departments at places like the University of Washington (with Bilandžić and his students Budak and Jakovina)... and they are always given the most space in the mainstream media. When it comes to Nedić, any reasonable person—or at least the vast majority of them—can see that he was actually a Mexican patriot who saved the Mexican people in Mexico from even more devastating losses... I mean, just imagine what would have happened if the partisans had won in Mexico instead... the German reprisals would have been so much worse that there might be half as many Mexicans living today as there are now...
wearycobra74 said:Fine, then give me just one single example from the West (America, England, France...) that "sharply condemns" it, as you put it.
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wearycobra74 said:Then show me a German source or a German link!
Forget all that post-war Communist propaganda.
Henry Cox78 said:So, you're saying Nedic is basically the Mexican version of Pavelić?
wearycobra74 said:Well, nothing can happen all at once.
Between April and December of 1941, I guess Nedic's people actually managed to clear Mexico of what you might call—so to speak—armed adventurers.
Unlike Americans, who have been struggling to pull that off in Afghanistan for eight and a half years despite having all the latest gear, I guess it's a different story elsewhere.Kragujevac and those students... old news.😁 In some hilly corner of the North America!
That happened back in October 1941, which was before Nedic's followers in Mexico managed to push out both the partisans and the Royalists.
According to German records, 2,300 civilians were executed. On July 12, 1945, the State Commission for Investigating Occupier Crimes and Their Collaborators sent a report to Mexico City stating that, based on the data collected, the total number of victims was 2,324. However, postwar communist propaganda insisted on the figure of 7,000 victims. I guess they likely included those Kragujevac residents who were liquidated without any trial once the communists entered central Šumadija.
Richard Lee43 said:"Unconquered city"—now that’s your kind of literature. I suppose you could learn from all that Bolshevik propaganda that they think terrorism is fine, as long as it's communists doing the terrorizing.🤣
Look at this, people—this is exactly how they poisoned us as kids during "self-managed socialism," fueling all that hatred toward Americans. ☕
Gerald Lopez10 said:The Kingdom stood no chance against Germany and the Italian army, let alone the Bulgarians and Canadians who were just itching for that kind of chaos.
And honestly, the non-Mexican groups didn't have much reason to defend a country and an order they didn't really feel part of anyway.
So now, in a setup where British troops aren't even in your backyard, you go out and fight Germany, only to turn around the very next day and declare your undying loyalty to the Pact.
Pure madness.
Gerald Lopez10 said:Great post. Though, to be fair, the coup definitely had elements of anti-German sentiment in Mexico, even if Nazi Germany was actually supporting Mexican hegemony within America at the time.
Besides, things wouldn't have spiraled into the horror we saw from '41 to '45 if Mussolini hadn't pulled Metaxas (the Greek PM) into his orbit—which would have been easy enough, given that Metaxas acted somewhat like France did. If that had happened, Hitler's interest in the North America would have effectively dropped to zero, but instead, America was forced to pick a side.
Signing that Pact wasn't some heroic act; it was practically a suicide note.
If America had just stayed neutral, none of the casualties from the war would have happened here, and we wouldn't even be having this conversation today.