Larry Allen34 said:I think you’ve posted in the wrong thread—this is an appeal regarding subforum moderation, not a debate over whether something actually exists....
Yeah, my bad. I messed up.
Regarding Bold—I should probably point out that back in the late '70s, Breuss's method was already being practiced by certain doctors in Germany before the whole thing was abruptly shut down because Breuss ended up in court.... What isn't widely known, however, is that all the charges against Breuss were dismissed (it wasn't some major news release, but everyone was talking about it when the trial started) despite the fact that Big Pharma teamed up with the media—essentially acting through the state prosecutor—to go after him. And do you know how those charges were tossed? They were dismissed because his patients showed up in court—the very people he saved—one by one, presenting their diagnoses before therapy and their recovery afterward. I hardly need to mention that many of them would have been considered terminal by medical standards; essentially, mainstream medicine had given up on them...
Oh, really? 😁 Like the guy who was diagnosed with prostate cancer at age 63 (back in 2001)—a condition affecting over 50% of men his age—who then proceeded to sell Breuss's books after trying juice therapy?😁
There you go, since you're such a fan of "facts."
She said... she claimed... and then, with a completely straight face, "facts." 😁
Look, German institutions can be incredibly lenient for historical reasons, and just because a lawsuit fails doesn't mean the defendant's stance or his "method" was ever validated. Years ago, some proponent of alternative medicine publicly declared that there was still no proof of the existence of the measles virus, even offering to pay someone $100,000 if they could show him evidence. A microbiologist presented the proof, leading to a court case where the judges, naturally, confirmed the microbiologist was right—but the defendant wasn't ordered to pay due to technicalities. Of course, that individual had no shame about advertising it as a win for himself, claiming "the court confirmed there is no evidence." 😁
Do you have any serious sources detailing what the actual lawsuit was about, which specific documented cases involve patients he supposedly "saved" with juices 😁, or the actual reasoning behind the court's decision?
- and finally, here is a 2015 study that tested Breuss's doctrine in combination with minimal doses of chemotherapy after decades of being taboo.... and of course, the results are promising....
A "study," you say? This paper hasn't been cited once in three years—well, maybe three times, if you count the author themselves—yet it supposedly contains such sensational content. And the quality of the journal? It’s right up there with those publications used to push agendas for promoted Republicans. 😁
Look, the idea of a diet for a few days prior to chemotherapy isn't exactly groundbreaking or revolutionary; it's based on the biological fact that certain healthy cells reduce their metabolic rate during periods of nutrient deprivation to increase the organism's overall chances of survival. Since tumor cells lack this specific mechanism, they end up consuming more of the cytotoxic drugs while the healthy cells sit tight—which doesn't necessarily boost the efficacy of the chemo itself, but it does improve the damage-to-benefit ratio regarding healthy tissue (that is, of course, a very superficial explanation, given that there isn't just one single type of tumor and there are various types of cytostatics, but I suppose for someone who subscribes to Breuss, it might be considered too detailed). Some studies haven't confirmed this effect, but certain oncologists—in Germany, for instance—have had positive experiences using it as a complementary therapy, so larger studies are being conducted to see whether or not a significant effect can be measured against control groups (just so we don't end up relying on mere hearsay 😁). As for how much this has to do with Breuss's method? About as much as holy water has to do with an energy drink.
Now we just have to wait for the time when someone dares to conduct this under controlled conditions without the use of cytostatics....
It just keeps getting better and better 😁
Look, if someone actually intends to try this without chemotherapy, then they haven't grasped the concept at all—it's like trying to build an electric plane but leaving out the wings. 😁
And as for this perpetual refrain from you people—that chemotherapy doesn't cure severely ill patients—do you honestly think oncologists don't know that? I mean, millions of them worldwide spend ten hours a day dealing with this, and you believe they are all collectively conspiring to hide information just so they can squeeze out more profit? You can find information on any official government health resource—take the German Cancer Information Service, for example—stating that chemotherapy rarely "cures" an advanced-stage tumor in the sense of total eradication; rather, it most often serves to halt or slow growth, or to destroy any remaining traces of a primary tumor after surgery. Chemotherapy is most effective either immediately before or after surgical intervention, provided the discovery is early enough to destroy potential tumor cells that have already migrated from the primary site, thereby preventing metastases (which, at that stage, obviously cannot be diagnosed because they simply aren't visible yet on a CT, MRI, or ultrasound). But again, that depends entirely on the type of cancer, doesn't it? There is no such thing as a singular disease called "cancer." With breast cancer, for example, the decision-making process often hinges on the patient's age or the aggressiveness of the malignancy.
But in that situation, advising a patient to run away from their oncologist or from mainstream medicine is nothing short of criminal. That is why this topic needs to be kept under wraps, and "alternative medicine"—when it is tolerated at all—should really be renamed "complementary." If you ask me, it should be renamed "Middle Ages medicine, voodoo, and hocus pocus."
As for the pharmaceutical industry—yes, it certainly possesses some mafia-like structures. For instance, only one in six new drugs actually demonstrates scientifically proven efficacy that is superior to existing medications for the same purpose (most of these are just so-called "lifestyle pills" targeting things like libido and other trivialities). Now, don't go drawing the conclusion from that fact that several million people—or let's say hundreds of thousands of researchers at universities, institutes, and within the pharma industry itself—are hiding something from us so effectively that even the most powerful people, billionaires, and influential politicians, along with their own children, die of cancer. That would be quite a formidable conspiracy, wouldn't it?
There is still one thing I simply cannot wrap my head around. Have you actually sat down and read a single page of Breuss’s books—or even just his basic maxims? Are you truly aware of how he describes bodily processes, and more importantly, how his followers continue to parrot those exact descriptions today? Honestly, where is the maturity? At this point, claiming aliens built the pyramids sounds more "rational" than what you're doing. Do you realize how much you diminish your own intellectual standing whenever you invoke names like Breuss or Glidden? Seriously, why doesn't someone just pack up and move to a tropical island to run a legitimate study? Take 200 patients—all between 50 and 60 years old, all facing the same type of cancer at a similar stage (and there are plenty of people willing to participate)—and split them up. Let 100 follow Group A, using Breuss's juice protocols, and let 100 follow Group B, utilizing standard medical practice. If they could demonstrate that after five or ten years, the survival rate in Group A is significantly higher than in Group B—with a p-value of at least < 0.05—they wouldn't need to hide. They wouldn't even have to flee; the patients—or rather, the victims—would gladly keep their "treatment" locations a secret if it meant following the trend. They would be celebrated more widely than Newton, Fleming, Koch, or even Einstein. But no—it’s always some obscure book, some hearsay from an old lady, or a handful of patients from 1970s court cases who supposedly "were saved by everything."
If an adult can be this incredibly naive, I really don't know what to tell you.