Posts by Adam Collins4

Look, if there isn’t anything available in your local municipality, they’re basically obligated to issue you a pass—so, if you need to go grab some medication, you actually have a valid reason to get a pass issued by your doctor through Civil Defense...

Edward Fisher86 said:Whether they were negligent or had a valid excuse, the fact remains that the problem needs solving, and as of right now, nobody seems to have a clue how.

If you felt we weren't on the same page, you could have just said so instead of resorting to insults. I have zero interest in your smug little emojis paired with fresh attempts at being offensive. Period. Full stop.

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Oh, please, they are absolutely gloating, listing off all these examples of how everyone screwed each other over regarding things like tolls, transportation, or even loans... 🙄
Besides renting, there are plenty of ways to suddenly find yourself stuck with the wrong legal residence.

It's easy to throw a fit when you feel justified—fine, give me the fine, but let me fix my paperwork first.
That seems to be the one thing you can't handle right now, especially since you can't even do it online.
Sure, if you listen to that Secretary, he'll tell you it's possible, so why wouldn't you be pissed?

Listen, I've lost count of how many times I've sat down to write out what I meant and explain my point... while you just kept cutting my posts short and acting like you're some kind of authority...

And then, once your own logic comes back to bite you, suddenly you're all upset and trying to drag my family into the conversation... naturally, all while lecturing me again about "culture" and "behavior"...

Nobody was ever talking about the people who legitimately live apart and have actually sorted out their legal status...

But the funny part is how this massive crowd of people who *never* bothered to regulate their status is suddenly revolting, claiming it's the government's fault... or the boss's fault...

It's always nice to have an excuse... but sometimes, those excuses are exactly what lands you in hot water...

Take my neighbor, for example. He’s renovating a house near me but officially lives in another city... and he recently went ballistic because the police turned him back at a checkpoint, preventing him from getting home to his wife and kids...

When we asked him why he hadn't just updated his registration to where he actually lives—which he hasn't done in over ten years—the guy started acting like a tough guy, claiming he doesn't owe anyone an explanation for where he stays... but now, suddenly, it's the government's fault.

dustymarlin10 said:The point is, they just don't have the nerve.
It’s honestly fascinating how rude some people get when you don't immediately bow down to their absolute, unshakable opinion.

I'm pretty sure psychiatrists actually have a specific diagnosis for that kind of thing...

I also think psychiatrists have a diagnosis, but maybe step away from the mirror while you're typing...

You’re really going to lecture me about rudeness?

First, you were busy spreading rumors about how my company operates, and now you've moved on to insults...

But hey, I guess people like you—talking about rudeness, much like this person you quoted who dragged my family into this mess—will always recognize one of your own, right? Is there a diagnosis for that, too?

P.S.

Funny enough, my "unshakable" stance turned out to be spot on... that's just what happens when you're out of your depth in the internet age...

The law is perfectly clear—you have to report an address change...

If you or someone in your circle is too incompetent to handle that and decides to blame the "boss," that's strictly your own problem... there are other apartments, there are other solutions...

But sure, it's always easier to blame everyone else for your own incompetence and laziness...

Edward Fisher86 said:… with children.

🤦

The Family Law also dictates that spouses are obligated to be faithful to one another (Article 31).

It’s honestly sad that you’re exhausting the very concept of a "community" just by focusing on a single shared residence, regardless of how long someone is away.

Damn, I’m just now realizing what a ridiculous piece of legislation we have here in the US.

Nobody ever suggested the state would start nullifying anything, nor that they’re monitoring who lives with whom; rather, once you started insisting so stubbornly on "where does it say that," I simply answered your question by pointing out exactly what the law says regarding the residence of married partners.

If you claim something isn't allowed, then it follows logically that I should ask where exactly that prohibition is written.

And nobody is taking pleasure in anyone else's problems; it's just unbelievable to me that people are so angry at those who were simply careless regarding how they handle their registered addresses....

Fine, tax evasion, sloppiness... maybe by the end of this madness, you'll finally hit the mark.

Yeah, you guys are moralizing and enjoying yourselves.

No, nobody is "enjoying" anything or acting superior—most of this was just about people who straight-up admitted they were negligent and now they're facing the music...

If someone has a legitimate reason—like that lady who posted earlier, or even you—that’s a completely different story...

But if someone missed an obligation because they were just being careless and now they're demanding their rights? Well, they just have to suck it up.

And wouldn't you know it, in the end, we all saw who was actually talking nonsense...😉

The whole definition of marriage or domestic partnership doesn't even matter here... because we’ve already seen people on this forum admit they haven't bothered changing their address just because it suits them better...

Then you have those folks claiming they can't see each other because they live a few miles apart in different municipalities—kind of like that lady mentioned above whose husband lives on the coast while she stays inland... those people have basically learned to live separate lives out of necessity—and in most cases, they actually have everything legally squared away...

The real headache comes from the ones who actually moved in together, are living under one roof, but haven't updated their address... and now they're the ones running into trouble...

Adam Collins4 said:Look, once you actually find me a realistic example—one that’s actually widespread, mind you—then we can have a real conversation about this...

Honestly, I have zero intention of getting into a wrestling match over something this trivial...

The reality is that most of these people were just too lazy to update their paperwork after getting married or moving house...

And yeah, technically, it is prohibited...😉

Some folks do it out of pure laziness, others because they're trying to cheat the system on travel reimbursements... and so on and so forth.

Edward Fisher86 said:I’m responding because you just keep pushing this nonsense.
I don't feel the need to prove who lives where, because that's beside the point.
The actual issue here is that there is simply no law or regulation preventing spouses from living at different addresses.
It’s just like how you aren't required to switch your bank card just because you moved houses—which was actually something you mentioned yourself.

Look at it this way:

Go ahead and keep arguing with yourself; I know your style well enough, so fine... I'm done with this.👋

As for everyone else jumping in to feed off someone else's drama, fine, have at it—but don't be surprised when that same garbage comes back your way.

Listen, troll, this just shows how far you're willing to go simply because you're incapable of making a real argument...

If you had mastered reading comprehension, you would have realized my sentence about the ban was referring to the previous sentence in my post...

Now I've bolded it for you, so maybe you can find someone else to explain context to you...

Until then—once you find an actual example, like those cases where people complain because some municipality or city is "between" them, let me know...

Wait, so now you're deciding what the topic is, just because you can't defend your own blunders?🤣

And what "garbage" are you talking about exactly?

Gerald Kern77 said:Yes, we truly live a few hundred miles apart—and yes, if my husband wanted to head to Washington, D.C., right now, he’d be in quite a bind. Apparently, "visiting your wife" isn't on the list of excused reasons, and since I'm neither elderly nor infirm, that wouldn't count as an argument either. 🤣

Naturally, he isn't planning on traveling under these conditions—but if he did, he’d likely have to explain to someone at the local Civil Protection Headquarters that he really does have a wife living in Washington, D.C., and that they aren't fighting, but have simply organized their lives in a way that works for them.

And I'll say it again... you guys followed the rules to a T, and honestly, even in normal times, you don't just zip back and forth to see each other constantly; you plan those trips out...

My point is about the group of people who are currently whining because it's "too hard" to drive from one neighboring city to another, or even just to the next municipality, specifically because they're married couples living separately...

The reality is, she moved away from her mother to be with him but never updated her address... or he did...

And now, suddenly, there's a problem.

Gerald Kern77 said:I wasn't planning on jumping into this debate—but here we are; my husband and I actually live at different addresses. He’s retired and spends nearly the entire year by the coast due to his health—it would practically be breaking the law to keep him registered in the city where he might only spend two months during the winter. Meanwhile, I have several more years of work ahead of me, and since my job keeps me tied to Washington, D.C., it’s only logical that it remains my primary residence.

Do you really think there aren't more examples like this?

Of course there are, but then you run into the whole distinction between residency and domicile...

But you wouldn't think to bring up how you "can't see each other" just because you'd have to drive a few miles left or right and cross into a different municipality or town...😉

Since you're already living apart anyway...

The point here is about people who actually live together but haven't bothered to sort out their addresses because they were too lazy or had shared interests... like one person is registered at their parents' place while the other is at the actual house where they both reside...

And now, if they are in different cities or counties, they're running into trouble because of the travel permits...

You and your husband really do live separately... and I assume that's a few hundred miles apart...

What I'm actually curious about is which of these people whining about being trapped within different municipalities or cities—neighboring ones, obviously—are actually living separate lives...

Drew Johnson2 said:For years, we actually kept our official residency registered at my father-in-law's place while living in an entirely different city... purely because we were renting, and honestly, it’s just how you navigate things—you convince the landlord to register you under someone else's name. I’m certain there are still plenty of people doing the exact same thing today. Of course, technically, a tenant is breaking the rules here, but let’s be real... if you finally stumble upon a decent apartment, you aren't going to pass it up just because of some paperwork technicality...

In Miami, finding a long-term rental for the whole year is practically impossible—though that might shift once the tourist season dies down—and if you even bring up the topic of a formal lease or official registration, you'll find yourself blacklisted before you can even finish your sentence...

It’s all true, really—even though the government should probably step in and regulate this so landlords don't act like complete idiots...

Personally, I won't touch a rental unless there's a contract and everything is officially filed...

But we were specifically debating that hypothetical scenario where a couple doesn't actually live together, which is why they have different addresses...

We just can't seem to land on a solid argument for when that actually becomes an issue...

Edward Fisher86 said:If you've got the guts, try having a conversation like that at home with your wife.

I honestly find myself wondering why I constantly attract these mindless trolls who clearly struggle with basic reading comprehension... you want to argue, but you just don't have the mental capacity to back it up.

My wife is way too sharp for the kindergarten-level nonsense you're trying to pull here...

So, let's get back to it: provide me with one actual argument that proves living separately is somehow normal... when you find one, let me know.

Then we can move on to discussing your inability to actually read, and eventually, the part where you lie because you can't defend your own point.

P.S. If you want to show me what kind of "intellectual" you are, maybe stop dragging other people's families into this mess—especially since nobody is even bringing up yours... save that behavior for the people who failed to teach you manners.

Until then—give me an argument for when spouses living apart is actually acceptable...

Edward Fisher86 said:I have no intention of going back and forth with you anymore. You're just spreading falsehoods.

It’s certainly not illegal for spouses to live at different addresses, despite what you claimed.
And there is absolutely no requirement to swap out all your bank cards just because you change your address, as you so confidently stated.
End of discussion.

It’s not "trolling"—it’s "end of discussion" when you finally manage to provide an actual argument proving that any sane married couple actually lives apart...

Until then, I’m not interested in your playground games...

As for those people who claim they "live separately," they should probably stop whining and just finish their paperwork properly like everyone else...

Oh please, since we're talking about lies—when did I ever say it was forbidden for them? kava:

Edward Fisher86 said:So there really is no ban on spouses living apart. It sounds like you're just making it up as you go.

Oh, so we're trolling now...

Let me know when you're done with the spin...

Until then, I'm waiting for an actual argument—you know, where and when exactly this "spouses living apart" thing is supposed to happen...☕

Jack Cook7 said:Total DIY disaster. I've seen it happen before.

Most people don't even pay attention to this stuff; it just flies under the radar. Anyone who's ever been a renter has dealt with this exact thing. From the example, it's super obvious the guy had no clue about the tax implications. In a place like Washington, D.C., it's even worse because of those nasty local income taxes.

Generally speaking, if you actually take a second to look at the tax system, there's a mountain of things people just don't want to deal with (myself included!), but once you know—and if you're an entrepreneur, you *have* to know, or at least your accountant/tax advisor does—you can actually save a ton of money. For instance, that guy might not have even needed to change his address (depends on what kind of loan he got), since there's no rule saying you can't own property elsewhere while renting in, say, Indianapolis. But, he probably took a first-time homebuyer loan or something similar where you're required to actually live there. And he completely missed the tax side of the story. Classic.

I just don't get people who don't realize that whenever your info changes, you have to update more than just your IDs—like, you need to update your bank cards and stuff too...

Not strictly true, though. It's usually not written explicitly in the contract. Banks don't really care unless you're applying for credit or a loan and they need to see your assets. Of course, that's assuming you aren't still getting paper statements sent to your old house via snail mail.😉

I think it was some trick involving the incentive plus the mortgage, so that's why he was changing things...

Exactly. Changing your address doesn't mean you have to change your debit card, but say you go to the bank for a loan and the address on your ID doesn't match your registered residence—that can cause issues... though that really depends on the specific bank...

The point of my posts is that people always focus on their rights, but they completely ignore their obligations...

Edward Fisher86 said:No. Give me the link regarding the ban on spouses maintaining separate residences.

What kind of bank cards would you actually need to change just because you moved addresses?

Look, there isn't actually a ban if they are genuinely living apart...

I was just asking—quite politely, I might add—where in the real world you actually find couples living under different roofs...

And how many examples of that even exist...

Judging by this thread, people are complaining while basically admitting they didn't get their paperwork sorted out when they were supposed to...

So, my question stands: when exactly does a mass movement of spouses deciding to live separately actually happen?

Jack Cook7 said:Look, from what I've seen, this happens all the time and is usually a totally understood arrangement with the boss. (Not that I’ve ever actually done it myself, though).

It’s just how employers find ways to "boost" salaries without having to deal with the government taking a massive cut, or even hitting those tax brackets where the rates suddenly skyrocket from like 20% to over 40%.

I dealt with a situation at a firm once where this guy was registered as living in a special high-incentive zone... which meant he could claim extra tax credits and pull in some decent cash for commuting expenses. To be honest, nobody really batted an eye at first because, well, nobody actually knew who lived where in the beginning...

Then, the guy goes out and buys a condo in the city on a mortgage. Obviously, to finalize the loan, you have to update your address and all that jazz... so he did it with the Department of Justice, but totally neglected to tell the IRS... or even the payroll department at his company...

Fast forward about 20 months, the IRS finally figures out where he’s actually living, and boom—he gets hit with over $1,500 in back taxes he had to cough up immediately...

Naturally, everyone else was suddenly at fault—from the federal government down to my accounting team... while he was the only one in the right, of course. Typical.

I just don't get people who can't grasp the fact that whenever you change your info, you have to update more than just your ID—you need to notify your bank, your employer, everything. It's not rocket science.

Edward Fisher86 said:Drop the link to this prohibition.
Or any other info you have regarding this supposed ban.

Wait, you want a link proving someone is committing fraud by living somewhere else than their registered address—say, basically scamming an employer out of travel reimbursements?

James Phillips92 said:Why should spouses have to live at the same address? Is there some rule saying married couples aren't allowed to live apart?

Look, once you actually find me a realistic example—one that’s actually widespread, mind you—then we can have a real conversation about this...

Honestly, I have zero intention of getting into a wrestling match over something this trivial...

The reality is that most of these people were just too lazy to update their paperwork after getting married or moving house...

And yeah, technically, it is prohibited...😉

Some folks do it out of pure laziness, others because they're trying to cheat the system on travel reimbursements... and so on and so forth.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:We’ll see how this all plays out in real life tomorrow.
My wife's brother and his wife are both living on Maui right now, though they’ve kept their residences separate in different spots—she’s staying over in Gabonj while he’s in Baška. They ended up stuck in Gabonj by pure chance, which, let’s be honest, is a total backwater. They’re itching to get over to Baška because, well, life is just a lot more convenient there. Now, they’re actually a bit paranoid that the police might swoop in and force them to split up at their respective addresses.
They’re heading toward Baška tomorrow, so we’ll just have to see what happens.

Look, I don't quite get it... everyone lately has been complaining about the system, which—let's be clear—is far from perfect...

But these situations where spouses are registered at different addresses? That's always been a mystery to me...

I guess I'm the only idiot who went through the hassle of updating every single document for the entire family when we moved... and the kicker is, we only moved two house numbers away because we built a new place on the same street...

And now people are either terrified or just venting...

Nicholas King said:It isn’t just about "some" people—it's much broader than that. Honestly, if they push these excessive measures and act with this kind of misplaced intensity, it’s going to screw over way more than just a few individuals. I mean, we're talking about systemic fallout here, not just isolated incidents.

Aside from everything else, people are just going to be staying home and drinking themselves into oblivion—and honestly, that’s inevitably going to drive up the death toll. But, since those folks won't exactly show up in the official COVID-19 statistics, I guess it doesn't really matter to the bureaucrats.

Look, let’s be clear about this—these measures were implemented with the sole intention of preventing the spread of the infection as much as humanly possible; they weren't put in place just to mess with anyone or play games.

The Chinese are welding people's front doors shut under the guise of "maximum infection prevention." And you're actually standing behind that? Seriously?

When exactly is this all going to wrap up? I mean, honestly—when are we actually going to see those numbers for new cases drop for several days in a row?

Are you kidding me? Seriously?

Let's say, hypothetically, we see twenty new infections over the course of a week. What then—really? What’s the actual move at that point? Do you just flip a switch and allow people to start moving around and socializing again? Do you greenlight the return to classrooms? Or maybe you get the football league back on the schedule? I mean, I guess there has to be some kind of logic here, but I'm honestly not seeing the roadmap.

The exact same "logic" can be used by those who are actually *for* the bans... how?

Scaling back measures will mess with even more people because the virus spreads faster... there you go, an equally valid claim as yours, completely devoid of actual arguments...

Nicholas King said:It isn’t just about "some" people—it's much broader than that. Honestly, if they push these excessive measures and act with this kind of misplaced intensity, it’s going to screw over way more than just a few individuals. I mean, we're talking about systemic fallout here, not just isolated incidents.

Aside from everything else, people are just going to be staying home and drinking themselves into oblivion—and honestly, that’s inevitably going to drive up the death toll. But, since those folks won't exactly show up in the official COVID-19 statistics, I guess it doesn't really matter to the bureaucrats.

Look, let’s be clear about this—these measures were implemented with the sole intention of preventing the spread of the infection as much as humanly possible; they weren't put in place just to mess with anyone or play games.

The Chinese are welding people's front doors shut under the guise of "maximum infection prevention." And you're actually standing behind that? Seriously?

When exactly is this all going to wrap up? I mean, honestly—when are we actually going to see those numbers for new cases drop for several days in a row?

Are you kidding me? Seriously?

Let's say, hypothetically, we see twenty new infections over the course of a week. What then—really? What’s the actual move at that point? Do you just flip a switch and allow people to start moving around and socializing again? Do you greenlight the return to classrooms? Or maybe you get the football league back on the schedule? I mean, I guess there has to be some kind of logic here, but I'm honestly not seeing the roadmap.

No, what matters is that people have zero self-control...

Eating themselves into a stupor? Vauuuu...

So now, the supposed problem facing society is the group of people so unstable they can't physically pull their hands away from the fridge or a bottle?

I get the feeling that isolation isn't going to do much for people like that; they’ll always find some excuse to gorge themselves... and of course, they'll blame everyone else for it...

Nicholas King said:It isn’t just about "some" people—it's much broader than that. Honestly, if they push these excessive measures and act with this kind of misplaced intensity, it’s going to screw over way more than just a few individuals. I mean, we're talking about systemic fallout here, not just isolated incidents.

Aside from everything else, people are just going to be staying home and drinking themselves into oblivion—and honestly, that’s inevitably going to drive up the death toll. But, since those folks won't exactly show up in the official COVID-19 statistics, I guess it doesn't really matter to the bureaucrats.

Look, let’s be clear about this—these measures were implemented with the sole intention of preventing the spread of the infection as much as humanly possible; they weren't put in place just to mess with anyone or play games.

The Chinese are welding people's front doors shut under the guise of "maximum infection prevention." And you're actually standing behind that? Seriously?

When exactly is this all going to wrap up? I mean, honestly—when are we actually going to see those numbers for new cases drop for several days in a row?

Are you kidding me? Seriously?

Let's say, hypothetically, we see twenty new infections over the course of a week. What then—really? What’s the actual move at that point? Do you just flip a switch and allow people to start moving around and socializing again? Do you greenlight the return to classrooms? Or maybe you get the football league back on the schedule? I mean, I guess there has to be some kind of logic here, but I'm honestly not seeing the roadmap.

Well, Chinese authorities are always known for their... unique measures...

But ask yourself this: would a measure like that actually "help" the people who have already broken self-isolation multiple times anyway?

And for the record, it's "welding," not "swailing"...😬

Drew Hughes10 said:Check your local city or municipal website.

In my neck of the woods (Cleveland), the application for an automatic pass is right there on the city's site. I’ve tried it myself—it works.

That’s NOT an e-Wallet—I just spent some time poking around the Cleveland city pages...

It's just their own internal form, and from what I can see, the concept is perfectly fine... and more importantly, it actually functions—unlike the geniuses running the Government...