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Jessica Wright58 said:Long story short. I don't go to church and I’m not a believer—not by a long shot. But I don't have any beef with people who do. Look, you'll find thieves among priests just like you'll find them anywhere else in society. Sure, there are arrogant ones and stupid ones too. And honestly, it doesn't bother me when I see people out jogging along the riverwalk—even if they look a little "off" sometimes. But I'll say it again. The people constantly preaching about being progressive or tolerant... they're usually the most intolerant ones out there. They're the ones carrying the hate. If I told some old lady she couldn't go to church? What's even the point? Why should I care if someone wants to hit a service or go for a run by the water? Who am I to tell anyone what to do? It doesn't affect me. As an atheist, or just someone who stays away from church, it's a non-issue. I barely even notice religious people—not because I'm ignoring them, but just because it's all normal to me. I mean, how much of an intolerant jerk would I have to be to try and stop someone from going to church? And what kind of reason could I possibly have to hate those people or that institution? I can't find one. Unless I'm a total psychopath, I guess. My parents don't go to church either. Well, my dad probably wouldn't, but I think my mom—since she's getting older—is becoming more of a believer.

And for those of you who absolutely loathe the church... if your parents or grandparents are regular attendees, go ahead. Try to "tolerantly" stop them. Be real liberal and progressive about it... do everything in your power to make sure they stay away from church. I bet they'd probably end up healthier and happier that way. And hey, at least you'll get that sweet confirmation that you were right after you spend all that "progressive" energy lecturing your own family against the church.

Jessica Wright58 said:😁

So how can you people who hate Christianity claim the Church was against medicine and education?

If I recall correctly, the Church in America opened the first university—plus, nuns basically acted as nurses and took care of the sick.

But according to some folks, it’s like the Church was totally against schooling and medicine.
Maybe that happened somewhere else... maybe in Orthodox countries. Not here, I guess.

Jessica Wright58 said:I can't speak for Ireland, I guess. But from what I know, the Church here in America isn't exactly fighting against medicine, treatments, or drugs... they aren't out there protesting surgeries or anything like that.

Jessica Wright58 said:I feel like a lot of people just don't get one thing. I actually explained this once to the son of a high-ranking Party official—I told him straight up, look, I'm not even a believer myself. But I said, listen, that sense of morality you have, the culture you were raised in, the whole way you were shaped... that comes from a Christian society. Most people aren't even aware that Christianity is what made them who they are. It basically built our entire social fabric. The kid wasn't stupid, though—he totally got what I was saying, so he just went quiet.

I mean, what would our society, or even European societies in general, even look like if Christianity hadn't shaped everything? People just take it for granted. They assume humans are born this way and that society just naturally evolves into its current state.

If they really want to see the difference, they should go wander around Africa for a bit and see if those societies look anything like ours, or if Christianity had the same impact on how we became Europeans. Or go to the Middle East and compare their social structure to ours. I guess people just lose sight of that.

People seem to think that Western society just happens on its own—like it's some sort of natural phenomenon.

Ryan Perez;81897463 said:I feel like you're just nitpicking at this point.

Honestly, I'm done reading this stuff. Capital flows wherever labor is cheap—end of story.

Why would an investor care about lustration? They just want to make a profit, and a big one at that. Nothing else matters to them.[/

Of course they care. Investors crave stability—ideally a system that mirrors the ones back in their home countries if they're from the West. Take Mexico, for instance; there's hardly any foreign investment there unless it's heavily subsidized. Clearing out the corrupt elements—the very people driving instability—is basically a prerequisite.

Ryan Perez said:I can't help but wonder what "opening up the files" actually has to do with making economic progress? What kind of files are we even talking about? Where are these files kept? I guess our files are probably sitting somewhere in Mexico City right now.

It feels like more mystification to me.

William Clark86 said:All those myths about some shepherds supposedly walking on water or turning water into wine thousands of years ago—the Gospels, the missions, all of it—it's just disinformation devoid of any real substance. There's zero benefit for the people here. In fact, having zero useful information is actually good for society... it frees up more time in your life and more space in your brain to focus on things that actually matter.

Instead of endlessly retreading the Bible, let's try to wrap our heads around economics and finding a social model that prevents white flight and mass emigration. Church doctrine has failed us completely in this regard—the more religious a place becomes and the more authority priests hold, the fewer factories, institutions, and children we see. 👍

Jessica Wright58 said:I learned a bunch of stuff in school too. Especially History and WWII, so I know most of that is just textbook filler. I don't know about Ireland specifically, though. Maybe what you're saying is right. But I'd never just claim something is a fact just because a teacher told me in class—I'd actually sit down and think about it, maybe dig around to see if it holds up.

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Ryan Perez said:I feel like you might be overthinking this a bit.

I don't really have the heart to read through all of that anymore. At the end of the day, capital flows toward wherever labor is cheapest. That’s pretty much the whole story, I guess.

Why would an investor care about lustration? They just want to turn a profit—and a significant one at that—and I doubt anything else occupies their mind.

China and Vietnam are stable; Mexico is a bit less so, but like I said, they show up once you start dangling $20,000 per job opening (which is, frankly, a total economic disaster).

Ryan Perez said:So, I suppose your main takeaway is that a nation essentially needs to be bigger, have a larger population, and secure Western support to succeed.

Ryan Perez said:Let’s not overcomplicate things here. If you all think Poland is lagging behind, then I guess there isn't really anything missing on their end.

Ryan Perez said:I mean, what kind of scientific achievements do the Czechs actually have?