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Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021) in Soccer ·
U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked

UNITED NATIONS (AP) — A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.

The fallout—think massive coastal flooding and widespread crop failures—could trigger a wave of "eco-refugees," which, let's be honest, sounds like a recipe for total political mayhem, according to Noel Brown, the director of the New York Office of the U.N. Environment Programme, or UNEP.

Brown basically warned that we're looking at a ten-year window for governments to actually get a handle on the greenhouse effect before things spiral completely out of our control.

article from 1989.
NFL pick six (2019/2020) in Other Sports ·
Buffalo Bills -
Cincinnati Bengals vs Kansas City Chiefs Baltimore Ravens vs Indianapolis Colts
- Atlanta Falcons vs Arizona Cardinals
Carolina Panthers vs Seattle Seahawks - New Orleans Saints vs Los Angeles Chargers vs Houston Texans
Chargers - Houston Texans
... wait, I think I got my wires crossed there—let me just lay out the matchups properly so we don't get lost in the weeds: -
NFL pick six (2019/2020) in Other Sports ·
Titans - Colts
Packers
- Vikings
Bengals - 49ers
Giants
- Bills
Lions - Chargers -
Rams - Saints
NFL pick six (2019/2020) in Other Sports ·
New York Jets - Buffalo Bills Panthers
Panthers - LA Rams
Buccaneers - 49ers
Cardinals- Lions
Jaguars -Chiefs
Raiders-Broncos
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Anthony Wood3 said:So, come on—give me your take on this whole situation where Hajduk has to play their home games in a tiny suburb because of the ultras... is it actually possible someone is out here actively sabotaging them?

Wait, you think only three games count toward the first half of the season?
Bad Boys in Fans ·
hiddenridge99 said:pripuz

an honest guy

I don't have a single doubt about it
thanks
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Frank Nguyen37 said:The guy was a serious power player—you could practically feel it in the air. Before Andrej Plenković (maybe?) started dismantling his influence piece by piece, he was one of the most formidable heavyweights in the country because he built this massive, monstrous octopus that had its tentacles wrapped around every single branch of government. And if there's any truth to the rumor that some other Zoki pulled a stunt over at the GNK bankomat... man, we are truly beyond help... I’m actually getting a little worried here... I really wish someone would tell me this isn't true, because it feels like we've all collectively walked right into a trap.

Wait, who's the second Zoki?
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Ethan Patel94 said:Sure, it's possible—back in the day we used to have seven or eight of these friendly organizations supporting Hajduk, but now there are only a few left. If you look at last year's 37,000 members, the ratio is basically 36,000 for NH versus maybe 1,000 others.

Justin Cook81, one annual fee was actually forgiven, and Tommy donated an amount equal to half a year's worth, just like someone mentioned earlier. As for the rest of those 30 million—we fans are the ones footing the bill. I know that firsthand because I personally put down a significant amount every year for shares, which isn't exactly easy money. Instead of being set up as a standard non-profit association (though, looking at how things work over in your neck of the woods, even that legal structure doesn't seem all that airtight in America), we’re operating as a sports joint-stock company. This means we have to scrape together massive millions just for the hope of one day hitting 50% ownership. In reality, we're indirectly paying off Hajduk's debts—debts created by politics—simply because that's how the club was restructured.

With this setup—leveraging membership, potential recapitalization, buying out Tommy, and then having him funnel that back to Hajduk through sponsorships—we Hajduk fans feel way more motivated. We actually know the money ends up inside the club, rather than landing in the pockets of guys like Štimac or Kerum if we were just buying shares directly from them. Honestly, membership would probably top out at 10,000 if Torcida, NH, and about fifty DPHs hadn't stepped up. But they organized because they want a fan-owned club, not just some boss calling all the shots.

I'm clearly a Hajdukovac—you obviously mistook me for being on the other side.
I'm actually quite well-versed in this whole share buyout process.
The membership fees definitely go straight to Hajduk; the only real question is whether that money gets eaten up by taxes or if it goes directly toward settling debt.
The only thing I find questionable is the service intermediary taking a 100% cut while trying to increase their own stake in Hajduk.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Jonathan Edwards8 said:NH holds about 25% of the shares because they were transferred over by Tommy.

Tommy didn't just pay off—or forgive—over $5 million for those shares; he actually donated a single annual installment of roughly $550,000 as a supporter of Our Hajduk—and honestly, he only "paid out" about $280,000 of that recently.

Look, Tommy is the biggest sponsor our club has, and frankly, his annual donations are the largest in all of KRAnl.

The contracts between Tommy, Hajduk, and NH aren't some interconnected web—each party negotiated their own terms independently.

Hajduk Split, acting as an SSD, can't hold direct membership.

By signing that deal with NH, they’re essentially building a loyalty program—using their DPHs and core membership base to provide a ton of perks for everyone involved.

NH isn't making a profit off Hajduk, and they aren't pocketing any membership fees either—everything goes straight to the club. Through these donations, Hajduk gets the full amount of the dues, and those donations are never being clawed back.

"Sorry if I'm being a nuisance—I really don't want to be the one typing this out, BUT here we go."


...during a celebration on the waterfront in Chicago, it was announced that the Tommy corporation—which Our Hajduk took over a 24.53% stake in last fall—decided to write off the final two installments, basically forgiving the entire annual sum of around $550,000. The news was shared with the emotional crowd by the Association secretary, Ivan Rilov...

So, it’s been forgiven.

If Hajduk's loyalty program costs $33 and joining NH also costs $33, then logically, joining NH (without the loyalty perks) costs $0.00. If that money—the money used to join the loyalty program—is what buys more Hajduk shares, and once Hajduk's value as a company rises, someone is going to see their assets increase and effectively turn a profit.
How is there no profit to be made there?
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Charles Ramos4 said:Are you actually getting your news from some niche seafood enthusiast blog or whatever—or is there some other reason why you're spreading all these lies?

First off, the membership fees stay with the club—but they’re looking at setting it up as a loan just to navigate some legal loopholes, since the organization is technically a public corporation.

Second off—and I'm just thinking out loud here—those associations aren't going to be using their membership fees to scoop up any stock. No way. It’ll be the monthly donations instead—you know, the kind of money earmarked for things like building a theme park or those other big community projects. That's where the real cash flow is going to come from.

Alright, let's keep this rolling. 👍

Charles Ramos4 said:You sign up through the NBA, sure—but that money flows straight to the club, and once it's there, it stays there. If we weren't also official members of Red Star Belgrade, we wouldn't be getting those member discounts at the fan shop or any of those other little perks that come with being part of the family.

He hasn’t exactly been handing out gifts—certainly not when it comes to gifting us those Red Star Belgrade shares. Instead, he just basically rewrote his own stake into ours, leaving us holding the bag. Now we're stuck on this massive ten-year repayment plan to cover it—though, to be fair, we’ve already managed to scrape together a decent chunk of it.

Look, Tommy Hilfiger is the club's sponsor—he’s putting up cash for the team specifically for that purpose—which is a completely different conversation than this whole mess regarding shares. And I’ve said this before, I really have, but we’re already settling that "debt" to Jerry Jones through our monthly donations and all those other various fundraisers we run. At the end of the day, we fans are reaching directly into our own pockets to buy those shares; nobody is handing us anything for free, despite how some people here are trying to spin it.

Honestly, we really need to stop paying so much attention to what Jastog and his crew are rambling about—it’s just noise at this point. 😉

It’s not even about some legal loophole or playing games with the rules—it’s about the fact that all those membership fees are being funneled through the NBA. I mean, you have to ask yourself: why is an association that claims to be such massive supporters of Red Star Belgrade actually turning a profit off of them? That's the real question right there.
If they actually go through with using membership fees to fund recapitalization—meaning they’re basically buying back club shares—then fine. But if that doesn't happen? Then Red Star Belgrade is just going to end up owing the NBA a massive debt. Either way you slice it, it's honestly pretty embarrassing.
Money's heading out to both the NBA and Red Star Belgrade.
So, here’s the deal with Tommy Hilfiger—he’s technically listed as the club's sponsor, but let's be real, he isn't actually cutting any checks directly to the organization. It’s not like there's a separate line item for his contributions, either. Instead, the money moves through a slightly more complicated loop—kind of like how people try to explain their tax returns—and it flows like this: The shares we picked up from Tommy Hilfiger—well, through that sponsorship deal, they're basically flowing straight into Red Star Belgrade. Honestly, when Tommy first mentioned that the cash he’d get from us for those shares was going to be funneled right back into sponsoring Red Star Belgrade, it felt like a total no-brainer to buy in. I mean, if every cent we scrape together is just going to end up supporting them anyway, we might as well pull the trigger now.
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I was just scrolling through some news about the club’s finances—you know how it goes, always some drama involving membership fees and where the money actually ends up—and it got me thinking about the sheer absurdity of it all. It feels like we’re constantly watching this endless cycle of mismanagement, almost like watching a slow-motion car crash in a parking lot. There’s this constant tug-of-war between the fans who just want to see a decent game and the leadership that seems more interested in their own pockets. It reminds me a bit of what people say about Jerry Jones and how things run over at the Dallas Cowboys—that feeling that the business side of the sport sometimes outweighs the actual soul of the team. You look at the books, you look at the empty promises, and you just have to wonder if anyone is actually steering the ship or if we’re all just drifting. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble too much—though I know I tend to do that—but it’s hard not to feel a little cynical when the math just doesn't add up. It’s one of those situations where you want to stay optimistic, really, you do, but then you see the latest report and you're back to square one. Just another day in the life of a frustrated fan, I guess.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Kyle Davis2 said:LA Galaxy won a European trophy. We're talking about the same club tier as giants like FC Barcelona, Arsenal, AS Roma, Newcastle United, and Leeds United... they belong in that circle.

Look, that was an unofficial competition—if we're using that logic, you might as well count the Marjan Trophy as a major European title too, so stop being such a fraud.
NFL pick six in Other Sports ·
Patriots
NFL pick six in Other Sports ·
Rams - Saints
Patriots
- Chiefs
NFL pick six in Other Sports ·
Colts-Chiefs
Cowboys-Rams
Chargers-Patriots
Eagles-Saints
NFL pick six in Other Sports ·
Colts-Texans
Seahawks-Cowboys
Chargers
-Ravens
Eagles-Bears
ante miše
darko miladin
mirko hrgović
neno pralija
vladimir balić