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Dana Diaz8 said:I'm trying to join two tables using a query in Access, but when I run it, I only get about two-thirds of the results. Access pulls those two-thirds just fine, but that final third—which should definitely be included based on how I structured the query—just vanishes into thin air. 🙂 🤷 Does anyone know where I'm going wrong? Or could at least point me in the right direction? I'm completely lost here and honestly have no clue how to fix this mess. Thanks in advance!

If you actually take a second to look at what you wrote, you've basically solved your own mystery. 😂 Since I'm juggling three different programs that pull from and save to an Access database, it’s pretty obvious that some kind of error occurred during the process, causing the data type for that missing third of the data to change. Now, Access can't pull it because the query is set up to perform specific calculations on it. So, now I just have to figure out how to fix the underlying mess. Any advice would be appreciated. 😁 ☕
I’m trying to join two tables using a query in Access, but things aren't adding up. After I build the query and run it, I’m only seeing about two-thirds of the results. Access is pulling most of the data, but that final third—which, based on my logic, shouldn't even be filtered out—just vanishes into thin air. 🙂 🤷 Does anyone have any idea where I'm going wrong? Or could you at least point me in the right direction so I can stop spinning my wheels? I am completely stumped here. Thanks in advance!
boldscout11 said:Same here... I just need someone to explain how to handle the highlighted part.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/96114214.png/

The employeeID would basically act as a primary key within certain tables. Honestly, your best bet is to just do a quick Google search to find the definition of a primary key. Once you wrap your head around what that actually is, the whole thing becomes obvious.
boldscout11 said:Hey everyone... if someone could help me out, I have a few more formulas here that I just can't seem to crack. I have to work with an FX-COM calculator, and you can see what needs solving in the image. I’ve tried everything, but nothing is working.

The profit = percentage (it isn't perfectly precise, but that's how you interpret it) -> you calculate it using the standard percentage formula value/(sum/100)

Both types of earnings are calculated the exact same way (it's just that one is the retailer's margin, while the other belongs to the manufacturer)

For example, the formula for the retailer's profit on sold CDs would be -> br_pr_cd_pon*cj_jd_cd+br_pr_cd_uto*cj_jd_cd+br_pr_ cd_sri*cj_jd_cd+....

As for finding the minimum, maximum, and average earnings—I don't really have much to add there. If you don't understand what you're supposed to be looking for or calculating, I'm not sure what else to tell you. But basically, the minimum value is the lowest figure you get from summing total earnings, the maximum is the highest figure from those sums, and the average is when you take the sum of all earned values and divide it by the total number of items sold.

Regarding the number of items sold on Wednesday that are fewer than 15—that's where things might get tricky. It's solvable, though, so just go look up the if function in any programming language or software tool.
Ethan Jones5 said:Quick question: is it actually possible to convert a PDF back into Word, and if so, what's the best way to do it?🤷

Sure, you can find plenty of free converters online. Just type it into Google and see what comes up. Looking for an online PDF to DOC converter? Honestly, it’s one of those things that sounds simple on paper until you actually try to do it. You think you'll just drag a file into a browser, click a button, and walk away with a perfectly formatted document, right? Wrong. Most of these free web tools are a total gamble. You upload your file, pray to the tech gods, and what do you get back? A complete disaster where every image is floating in no particular place and your carefully crafted layout looks like it went through a blender. Is it really worth the headache of fixing twenty pages of broken formatting just to save a few bucks? Sometimes, you have to decide if the convenience is actually worth the inevitable frustration. Just look at what it’s going to spit out. Seriously, why bother with those sites that demand your email address? Just grab that converter code where you can simply upload your PDF and download it later without all the registration nonsense. Why make things harder than they need to be?
wearycyclist98 said:Look, you can try reducing the spacing, but honestly, it probably just carried over that formatting from whatever program it originated from. It’s not like you can physically separate them. Just look at how a single cell looks when you copy and paste it...

LONG: 214,980.26 30,545.49 245,525.75 245,525.75

Try doing the exact opposite. Take the data out of that Word file and dump it into Notepad. Once you're in Notepad, use Find and Replace under the Edit menu to reorganize everything using a specific character—for example, swap those massive gaps (which are likely tabs) and the periods with a semicolon (;). Save that as a .txt file. Then, head over to Excel, go to the Data menu, and select the "From Text" icon. When the window pops up, set the semicolon as your delimiter, and Excel will snap every number into its own column. You just have to be patient and make sure you format that file correctly so you don't accidentally lose any data along the way.
David Wilson6 said:How can I get page 1 in Excel to fill up an entire sheet of A4 paper?

First, go into your Page Setup and check whether you have the orientation set to portrait or landscape in Excel. Looking at this half-printed mess you've got there, it looks to me like you've set it to landscape in Excel, but you're trying to print it in portrait.
Melissa Hayes41 said:Hey everyone. I'm pretty comfortable using PowerPoint, but I'd really love to figure out how to run PowerPoint inside of Flash...

You can't really "run" PowerPoint inside of Flash—that just isn't a thing. You could build a presentation from scratch using Flash, but that’s a whole different rabbit hole. Honestly, just do a little digging online; if you already have a handle on PowerPoint, why should this be any harder?
Amanda Barnes7 said:Hey everyone, I'm trying not to clutter things up with a new thread here...
Does anyone know how I can get four small pages to print onto a single sheet of paper?

You actually have to tweak the printer settings right before you hit the button. Look for "Settings," "Options," or something similar—basically where you’d go to change the paper size. There should be an option there that lets you decide how many pages you want to cram onto one sheet. You can also find stuff there like switching between black and white or color.
High School Guide: Admissions, reviews, and advice in Students & Teens ·
Rachel Jones8 said:😂 What three-year vocational school...? Where did I even mention three years?
What are you even talking about... or like, what's your deal?

Look, at the end of the day, the whole debate really boils down to one thing: are we talking about 14, maybe 14.5, or a full 15 years?
If you head to prep school, everyone starts acting like they're some kind of genius, right?

Wait, seriously? Where... who... what "people" are we even talking about?
Why should every high school grad feel forced into college if they already know the job market is a total grind? And why does a kid from a vocational school, who actually wants to study their craft, always have to take a backseat to the academic crowd?

What was the author actually getting at?
Why would he have to? Well, simply because he knew it was the right move. Plus, it’d be a huge help since he doesn't have the credentials yet and really wants to go back to school.
What does it even mean to "lecture" high schoolers? Like, what’s the actual vibe there? 😕 🤷

You didn't mention three years anywhere, but you did bring up mechanics, hairstylists, and stuff like that...☕
Rachel Jones8 said:😂 What three-year vocational school...? Where did I even mention three years?
What are you even talking about... or like, what's your deal?

Look, at the end of the day, the whole debate really boils down to one thing: are we talking about 14, maybe 14.5, or a full 15 years?
If you head to prep school, everyone starts acting like they're some kind of genius, right?

Wait, seriously? Where... who... what "people" are we even talking about?
Why should every high school grad feel forced into college if they already know the job market is a total grind? And why does a kid from a vocational school, who actually wants to study their craft, always have to take a backseat to the academic crowd?

What was the author actually getting at?
Why would he have to? Well, simply because he knew it was the right move. Plus, it’d be a huge help since he doesn't have the credentials yet and really wants to go back to school.
What does it even mean to "lecture" high schoolers? Like, what’s the actual vibe there? 😕 🤷

I'm clearly not up to speed with today's youth slang... Right now I'm sipping white, but occasionally I'll go for a red!
Rachel Jones8 said:😂 What three-year vocational school...? Where did I even mention three years?
What are you even talking about... or like, what's your deal?

Look, at the end of the day, the whole debate really boils down to one thing: are we talking about 14, maybe 14.5, or a full 15 years?
If you head to prep school, everyone starts acting like they're some kind of genius, right?

Wait, seriously? Where... who... what "people" are we even talking about?
Why should every high school grad feel forced into college if they already know the job market is a total grind? And why does a kid from a vocational school, who actually wants to study their craft, always have to take a backseat to the academic crowd?

What was the author actually getting at?
Why would he have to? Well, simply because he knew it was the right move. Plus, it’d be a huge help since he doesn't have the credentials yet and really wants to go back to school.
What does it even mean to "lecture" high schoolers? Like, what’s the actual vibe there? 😕 🤷

We could even break it down by hours, minutes, and seconds if we really want to get pedantic!
Rachel Jones8 said:😂 What three-year vocational school...? Where did I even mention three years?
What are you even talking about... or like, what's your deal?

Look, at the end of the day, the whole debate really boils down to one thing: are we talking about 14, maybe 14.5, or a full 15 years?
If you head to prep school, everyone starts acting like they're some kind of genius, right?

Wait, seriously? Where... who... what "people" are we even talking about?
Why should every high school grad feel forced into college if they already know the job market is a total grind? And why does a kid from a vocational school, who actually wants to study their craft, always have to take a backseat to the academic crowd?

What was the author actually getting at?
Why would he have to? Well, simply because he knew it was the right move. Plus, it’d be a huge help since he doesn't have the credentials yet and really wants to go back to school.
What does it even mean to "lecture" high schoolers? Like, what’s the actual vibe there? 😕 🤷

Aha. Americans, Mexicans, Canadians, Italians, Slovaks, Canadians, and the other national minorities living in the US.
Rachel Jones8 said:😂 What three-year vocational school...? Where did I even mention three years?
What are you even talking about... or like, what's your deal?

Look, at the end of the day, the whole debate really boils down to one thing: are we talking about 14, maybe 14.5, or a full 15 years?
If you head to prep school, everyone starts acting like they're some kind of genius, right?

Wait, seriously? Where... who... what "people" are we even talking about?
Why should every high school grad feel forced into college if they already know the job market is a total grind? And why does a kid from a vocational school, who actually wants to study their craft, always have to take a backseat to the academic crowd?

What was the author actually getting at?
Why would he have to? Well, simply because he knew it was the right move. Plus, it’d be a huge help since he doesn't have the credentials yet and really wants to go back to school.
What does it even mean to "lecture" high schoolers? Like, what’s the actual vibe there? 😕 🤷

Exactly what they wrote.
Rachel Jones8 said:😂 What three-year vocational school...? Where did I even mention three years?
What are you even talking about... or like, what's your deal?

Look, at the end of the day, the whole debate really boils down to one thing: are we talking about 14, maybe 14.5, or a full 15 years?
If you head to prep school, everyone starts acting like they're some kind of genius, right?

Wait, seriously? Where... who... what "people" are we even talking about?
Why should every high school grad feel forced into college if they already know the job market is a total grind? And why does a kid from a vocational school, who actually wants to study their craft, always have to take a backseat to the academic crowd?

What was the author actually getting at?
Why would he have to? Well, simply because he knew it was the right move. Plus, it’d be a huge help since he doesn't have the credentials yet and really wants to go back to school.
What does it even mean to "lecture" high schoolers? Like, what’s the actual vibe there? 😕 🤷

But weren't you just arguing in your earlier posts that some high schoolers are completely lost when it comes to their future? 😕
Rachel Jones8 said:😂 What three-year vocational school...? Where did I even mention three years?
What are you even talking about... or like, what's your deal?

Look, at the end of the day, the whole debate really boils down to one thing: are we talking about 14, maybe 14.5, or a full 15 years?
If you head to prep school, everyone starts acting like they're some kind of genius, right?

Wait, seriously? Where... who... what "people" are we even talking about?
Why should every high school grad feel forced into college if they already know the job market is a total grind? And why does a kid from a vocational school, who actually wants to study their craft, always have to take a backseat to the academic crowd?

What was the author actually getting at?
Why would he have to? Well, simply because he knew it was the right move. Plus, it’d be a huge help since he doesn't have the credentials yet and really wants to go back to school.
What does it even mean to "lecture" high schoolers? Like, what’s the actual vibe there? 😕 🤷

A picture is worth a thousand words; maybe this will make things a bit clearer for you.
🙂
Grace Morris4 said:How can I replicate what’s in this image—specifically centering the equation while keeping the number in parentheses at the far right—without using tabs? I need the formula dead center and the number flush against the right margin.

Honestly, why not just save the equation as an image? You could upload it, set the alignment to center, and set the layout to "in line with text." Then, you just type out the (1.1) on a new line and align it to the right. That’s my first thought—it seems like the path of least resistance, doesn't it?

Grace Morris4 said:And how do I handle page numbering where I use Roman numerals for pages a-b, but switch to standard Arabic numerals for pages c-d within the same file?

At the end of page b, insert a section break rather than a simple page break, then start page c with a continuous setting. And don't forget the most crucial part: you have to uncheck "Link to Previous." Just double-click the header or footer on page c—whichever one holds your page numbers—and disable that "Link to Previous" option. If you miss that step, nothing will work properly.
High School Guide: Admissions, reviews, and advice in Students & Teens ·
Nicholas King said:Out of the absolute mountain of questionable takes floating around here—and I’ll admit, the idea that "anyone who gets good grades is a nerd" actually made the shortlist for me—I want to zero in on this one.

Let’s keep some perspective here, shall we? We are talking about fifteen-year-olds. Who, exactly, are they trying to impress, and why? Do you honestly believe there is some social circle out there where a teenager announcing, "Oh, I go to an elite prep school," is going to cause an immediate wave of hormonal frenzy or... well, anything remotely scandalous? It's just not happening.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with kids choosing a prep school even if they haven't figured out their entire career path yet. Choosing a high school is really just about selecting a specific track of study, and then, eventually, during those years, they will settle on a specific major.

Fine
Nicholas King said:Out of the absolute mountain of questionable takes floating around here—and I’ll admit, the idea that "anyone who gets good grades is a nerd" actually made the shortlist for me—I want to zero in on this one.

Let’s keep some perspective here, shall we? We are talking about fifteen-year-olds. Who, exactly, are they trying to impress, and why? Do you honestly believe there is some social circle out there where a teenager announcing, "Oh, I go to an elite prep school," is going to cause an immediate wave of hormonal frenzy or... well, anything remotely scandalous? It's just not happening.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with kids choosing a prep school even if they haven't figured out their entire career path yet. Choosing a high school is really just about selecting a specific track of study, and then, eventually, during those years, they will settle on a specific major.

Kids can start high school at fourteen. And if you tell people you're going to a prestigious prep school, the general consensus is that you're some kind of genius.

Nicholas King said:Out of the absolute mountain of questionable takes floating around here—and I’ll admit, the idea that "anyone who gets good grades is a nerd" actually made the shortlist for me—I want to zero in on this one.

Let’s keep some perspective here, shall we? We are talking about fifteen-year-olds. Who, exactly, are they trying to impress, and why? Do you honestly believe there is some social circle out there where a teenager announcing, "Oh, I go to an elite prep school," is going to cause an immediate wave of hormonal frenzy or... well, anything remotely scandalous? It's just not happening.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with kids choosing a prep school even if they haven't figured out their entire career path yet. Choosing a high school is really just about selecting a specific track of study, and then, eventually, during those years, they will settle on a specific major.

We can save the debates about faith and belief for another thread.

Nicholas King said:Out of the absolute mountain of questionable takes floating around here—and I’ll admit, the idea that "anyone who gets good grades is a nerd" actually made the shortlist for me—I want to zero in on this one.

Let’s keep some perspective here, shall we? We are talking about fifteen-year-olds. Who, exactly, are they trying to impress, and why? Do you honestly believe there is some social circle out there where a teenager announcing, "Oh, I go to an elite prep school," is going to cause an immediate wave of hormonal frenzy or... well, anything remotely scandalous? It's just not happening.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with kids choosing a prep school even if they haven't figured out their entire career path yet. Choosing a high school is really just about selecting a specific track of study, and then, eventually, during those years, they will settle on a specific major.

Why should every prep school student feel forced into college if they already know finding a job after graduation will be an uphill battle? And why should a kid from a four-year vocational program, who wants to continue studying their trade, be pushed aside by the prep school crowd?
High School Guide: Admissions, reviews, and advice in Students & Teens ·
Rachel Jones8 said:Nah, a real nerd is the one actually burying their nose in a book.

For some people (the smart ones), it's different. Nerds just feel this need to go to prep school just so they can brag about being there. Like, they have no clue where they're headed, so they just hit up prep school so everyone thinks, "Wow, look at this genius."

Just so they can say they went to prep school? You really think that's their only motivation?
You're saying they don't know where they're going. But if they don't know, where else are they supposed to go?
If you had 60 or more credits... (or if you were giving advice to a buddy) and you had no idea what you wanted to do, meaning you aren't interested in any specific career—like being a mechanic, a stylist, or whatever a vocational school offers—would you still pick a trade you hate... or would you just head to prep school?

🙂

Rachel Jones8 said:Nah, a real nerd is the one actually burying their nose in a book.

For some people (the smart ones), it's different. Nerds just feel this need to go to prep school just so they can brag about being there. Like, they have no clue where they're headed, so they just hit up prep school so everyone thinks, "Wow, look at this genius."

Just so they can say they went to prep school? You really think that's their only motivation?
You're saying they don't know where they're going. But if they don't know, where else are they supposed to go?
If you had 60 or more credits... (or if you were giving advice to a buddy) and you had no idea what you wanted to do, meaning you aren't interested in any specific career—like being a mechanic, a stylist, or whatever a vocational school offers—would you still pick a trade you hate... or would you just head to prep school?

They were screwed over by our visionary Secretary of Education by making high school mandatory for everyone, even when kids have no clear goals and end up just repeating the same grade. Why are you suddenly dragging three-year vocational programs through the mud?
High School Guide: Admissions, reviews, and advice in Students & Teens ·
Rachel Jones8 said:How'd you manage to pull such a heavy conclusion out of thin air?
Read that again.
So you can't just fax over the low numbers and ignore the high ones? Makes sense, right?

So if a specialist ends up with lower grades or a worse GPA... basically fewer points on the board... what happens then?
Should I go with him or the high school grad with more points? Or maybe that other vocational student who's scoring higher?
What crumbs are you even talking about? If someone actually puts in the work and proves themselves with high SAT scores and solid grades... does it even matter which high school they went to? At least for now.
So, people hitting those five-figure salaries think they're geniuses now? I guess we can make an exception for the outliers.

Not necessarily... they actually want to learn. Unless we're talking about those participation trophies? Look, I was smart too... but what could I do if I wasn't getting straight As mostly because I was just lazy?
Those are exactly the exceptions I’m talking about. Kids like that? They're gonna crush it. They actually use their heads, so they'll breeze right into their dream college and graduate on their own merit. Who wouldn't want to be one of them?

Nah, they aren't. It's mostly just kids who breeze through middle school with straight A's but don't actually care about any specific career path... so they just end up in prep school?
Look at these straight-A nerds. They’re basically just mindless drones whose parents probably pushed them into high school prep because they haven't missed a single question since elementary school. Is that even living?

They aren't... they’re just normal kids pulling straight As in their graded classes. Some of it’s luck, some is hard work, but honestly, everyone else is doing worse—even if you just look at their behavior. You don't have to be some total overachiever to walk out of middle school with those 60 points plus extra credit for conduct, right?
They aren't stupid, and it’s not like their parents shoved anything specific down their throats. They just don't have a clue where they're headed, even though they've got the chance to go to a good prep school. Isn't that just how it goes?

🙂 (p.s. check my signature)

Rachel Jones8 said:How'd you manage to pull such a heavy conclusion out of thin air?
Read that again.
So you can't just fax over the low numbers and ignore the high ones? Makes sense, right?

So if a specialist ends up with lower grades or a worse GPA... basically fewer points on the board... what happens then?
Should I go with him or the high school grad with more points? Or maybe that other vocational student who's scoring higher?
What crumbs are you even talking about? If someone actually puts in the work and proves themselves with high SAT scores and solid grades... does it even matter which high school they went to? At least for now.
So, people hitting those five-figure salaries think they're geniuses now? I guess we can make an exception for the outliers.

Not necessarily... they actually want to learn. Unless we're talking about those participation trophies? Look, I was smart too... but what could I do if I wasn't getting straight As mostly because I was just lazy?
Those are exactly the exceptions I’m talking about. Kids like that? They're gonna crush it. They actually use their heads, so they'll breeze right into their dream college and graduate on their own merit. Who wouldn't want to be one of them?

Nah, they aren't. It's mostly just kids who breeze through middle school with straight A's but don't actually care about any specific career path... so they just end up in prep school?
Look at these straight-A nerds. They’re basically just mindless drones whose parents probably pushed them into high school prep because they haven't missed a single question since elementary school. Is that even living?

They aren't... they’re just normal kids pulling straight As in their graded classes. Some of it’s luck, some is hard work, but honestly, everyone else is doing worse—even if you just look at their behavior. You don't have to be some total overachiever to walk out of middle school with those 60 points plus extra credit for conduct, right?
They aren't stupid, and it’s not like their parents shoved anything specific down their throats. They just don't have a clue where they're headed, even though they've got the chance to go to a good prep school. Isn't that just how it goes?

But our Secretary of Education has such brilliant ideas; I guess it doesn't matter if they're just some high school overachiever.

Rachel Jones8 said:How'd you manage to pull such a heavy conclusion out of thin air?
Read that again.
So you can't just fax over the low numbers and ignore the high ones? Makes sense, right?

So if a specialist ends up with lower grades or a worse GPA... basically fewer points on the board... what happens then?
Should I go with him or the high school grad with more points? Or maybe that other vocational student who's scoring higher?
What crumbs are you even talking about? If someone actually puts in the work and proves themselves with high SAT scores and solid grades... does it even matter which high school they went to? At least for now.
So, people hitting those five-figure salaries think they're geniuses now? I guess we can make an exception for the outliers.

Not necessarily... they actually want to learn. Unless we're talking about those participation trophies? Look, I was smart too... but what could I do if I wasn't getting straight As mostly because I was just lazy?
Those are exactly the exceptions I’m talking about. Kids like that? They're gonna crush it. They actually use their heads, so they'll breeze right into their dream college and graduate on their own merit. Who wouldn't want to be one of them?

Nah, they aren't. It's mostly just kids who breeze through middle school with straight A's but don't actually care about any specific career path... so they just end up in prep school?
Look at these straight-A nerds. They’re basically just mindless drones whose parents probably pushed them into high school prep because they haven't missed a single question since elementary school. Is that even living?

They aren't... they’re just normal kids pulling straight As in their graded classes. Some of it’s luck, some is hard work, but honestly, everyone else is doing worse—even if you just look at their behavior. You don't have to be some total overachiever to walk out of middle school with those 60 points plus extra credit for conduct, right?
They aren't stupid, and it’s not like their parents shoved anything specific down their throats. They just don't have a clue where they're headed, even though they've got the chance to go to a good prep school. Isn't that just how it goes?

A kid who gets handed easy A's is just a straight-A student.

Rachel Jones8 said:How'd you manage to pull such a heavy conclusion out of thin air?
Read that again.
So you can't just fax over the low numbers and ignore the high ones? Makes sense, right?

So if a specialist ends up with lower grades or a worse GPA... basically fewer points on the board... what happens then?
Should I go with him or the high school grad with more points? Or maybe that other vocational student who's scoring higher?
What crumbs are you even talking about? If someone actually puts in the work and proves themselves with high SAT scores and solid grades... does it even matter which high school they went to? At least for now.
So, people hitting those five-figure salaries think they're geniuses now? I guess we can make an exception for the outliers.

Not necessarily... they actually want to learn. Unless we're talking about those participation trophies? Look, I was smart too... but what could I do if I wasn't getting straight As mostly because I was just lazy?
Those are exactly the exceptions I’m talking about. Kids like that? They're gonna crush it. They actually use their heads, so they'll breeze right into their dream college and graduate on their own merit. Who wouldn't want to be one of them?

Nah, they aren't. It's mostly just kids who breeze through middle school with straight A's but don't actually care about any specific career path... so they just end up in prep school?
Look at these straight-A nerds. They’re basically just mindless drones whose parents probably pushed them into high school prep because they haven't missed a single question since elementary school. Is that even living?

They aren't... they’re just normal kids pulling straight As in their graded classes. Some of it’s luck, some is hard work, but honestly, everyone else is doing worse—even if you just look at their behavior. You don't have to be some total overachiever to walk out of middle school with those 60 points plus extra credit for conduct, right?
They aren't stupid, and it’s not like their parents shoved anything specific down their throats. They just don't have a clue where they're headed, even though they've got the chance to go to a good prep school. Isn't that just how it goes?

I couldn't care less.

Rachel Jones8 said:How'd you manage to pull such a heavy conclusion out of thin air?
Read that again.
So you can't just fax over the low numbers and ignore the high ones? Makes sense, right?

So if a specialist ends up with lower grades or a worse GPA... basically fewer points on the board... what happens then?
Should I go with him or the high school grad with more points? Or maybe that other vocational student who's scoring higher?
What crumbs are you even talking about? If someone actually puts in the work and proves themselves with high SAT scores and solid grades... does it even matter which high school they went to? At least for now.
So, people hitting those five-figure salaries think they're geniuses now? I guess we can make an exception for the outliers.

Not necessarily... they actually want to learn. Unless we're talking about those participation trophies? Look, I was smart too... but what could I do if I wasn't getting straight As mostly because I was just lazy?
Those are exactly the exceptions I’m talking about. Kids like that? They're gonna crush it. They actually use their heads, so they'll breeze right into their dream college and graduate on their own merit. Who wouldn't want to be one of them?

Nah, they aren't. It's mostly just kids who breeze through middle school with straight A's but don't actually care about any specific career path... so they just end up in prep school?
Look at these straight-A nerds. They’re basically just mindless drones whose parents probably pushed them into high school prep because they haven't missed a single question since elementary school. Is that even living?

They aren't... they’re just normal kids pulling straight As in their graded classes. Some of it’s luck, some is hard work, but honestly, everyone else is doing worse—even if you just look at their behavior. You don't have to be some total overachiever to walk out of middle school with those 60 points plus extra credit for conduct, right?
They aren't stupid, and it’s not like their parents shoved anything specific down their throats. They just don't have a clue where they're headed, even though they've got the chance to go to a good prep school. Isn't that just how it goes?

Those are the ones who should be fast-tracked!

Rachel Jones8 said:How'd you manage to pull such a heavy conclusion out of thin air?
Read that again.
So you can't just fax over the low numbers and ignore the high ones? Makes sense, right?

So if a specialist ends up with lower grades or a worse GPA... basically fewer points on the board... what happens then?
Should I go with him or the high school grad with more points? Or maybe that other vocational student who's scoring higher?
What crumbs are you even talking about? If someone actually puts in the work and proves themselves with high SAT scores and solid grades... does it even matter which high school they went to? At least for now.
So, people hitting those five-figure salaries think they're geniuses now? I guess we can make an exception for the outliers.

Not necessarily... they actually want to learn. Unless we're talking about those participation trophies? Look, I was smart too... but what could I do if I wasn't getting straight As mostly because I was just lazy?
Those are exactly the exceptions I’m talking about. Kids like that? They're gonna crush it. They actually use their heads, so they'll breeze right into their dream college and graduate on their own merit. Who wouldn't want to be one of them?

Nah, they aren't. It's mostly just kids who breeze through middle school with straight A's but don't actually care about any specific career path... so they just end up in prep school?
Look at these straight-A nerds. They’re basically just mindless drones whose parents probably pushed them into high school prep because they haven't missed a single question since elementary school. Is that even living?

They aren't... they’re just normal kids pulling straight As in their graded classes. Some of it’s luck, some is hard work, but honestly, everyone else is doing worse—even if you just look at their behavior. You don't have to be some total overachiever to walk out of middle school with those 60 points plus extra credit for conduct, right?
They aren't stupid, and it’s not like their parents shoved anything specific down their throats. They just don't have a clue where they're headed, even though they've got the chance to go to a good prep school. Isn't that just how it goes?

So what, are vocational schools just filled with delinquents while prep schools are populated exclusively by angels?

Rachel Jones8 said:How'd you manage to pull such a heavy conclusion out of thin air?
Read that again.
So you can't just fax over the low numbers and ignore the high ones? Makes sense, right?

So if a specialist ends up with lower grades or a worse GPA... basically fewer points on the board... what happens then?
Should I go with him or the high school grad with more points? Or maybe that other vocational student who's scoring higher?
What crumbs are you even talking about? If someone actually puts in the work and proves themselves with high SAT scores and solid grades... does it even matter which high school they went to? At least for now.
So, people hitting those five-figure salaries think they're geniuses now? I guess we can make an exception for the outliers.

Not necessarily... they actually want to learn. Unless we're talking about those participation trophies? Look, I was smart too... but what could I do if I wasn't getting straight As mostly because I was just lazy?
Those are exactly the exceptions I’m talking about. Kids like that? They're gonna crush it. They actually use their heads, so they'll breeze right into their dream college and graduate on their own merit. Who wouldn't want to be one of them?

Nah, they aren't. It's mostly just kids who breeze through middle school with straight A's but don't actually care about any specific career path... so they just end up in prep school?
Look at these straight-A nerds. They’re basically just mindless drones whose parents probably pushed them into high school prep because they haven't missed a single question since elementary school. Is that even living?

They aren't... they’re just normal kids pulling straight As in their graded classes. Some of it’s luck, some is hard work, but honestly, everyone else is doing worse—even if you just look at their behavior. You don't have to be some total overachiever to walk out of middle school with those 60 points plus extra credit for conduct, right?
They aren't stupid, and it’s not like their parents shoved anything specific down their throats. They just don't have a clue where they're headed, even though they've got the chance to go to a good prep school. Isn't that just how it goes?

If you're a functional human being who actually knows how to study, it isn't a huge hurdle. But then again, you can also have a incredibly shallow memory where you cram everything in just to forget it all ten minutes after the test is over.

Rachel Jones8 said:How'd you manage to pull such a heavy conclusion out of thin air?
Read that again.
So you can't just fax over the low numbers and ignore the high ones? Makes sense, right?

So if a specialist ends up with lower grades or a worse GPA... basically fewer points on the board... what happens then?
Should I go with him or the high school grad with more points? Or maybe that other vocational student who's scoring higher?
What crumbs are you even talking about? If someone actually puts in the work and proves themselves with high SAT scores and solid grades... does it even matter which high school they went to? At least for now.
So, people hitting those five-figure salaries think they're geniuses now? I guess we can make an exception for the outliers.

Not necessarily... they actually want to learn. Unless we're talking about those participation trophies? Look, I was smart too... but what could I do if I wasn't getting straight As mostly because I was just lazy?
Those are exactly the exceptions I’m talking about. Kids like that? They're gonna crush it. They actually use their heads, so they'll breeze right into their dream college and graduate on their own merit. Who wouldn't want to be one of them?

Nah, they aren't. It's mostly just kids who breeze through middle school with straight A's but don't actually care about any specific career path... so they just end up in prep school?
Look at these straight-A nerds. They’re basically just mindless drones whose parents probably pushed them into high school prep because they haven't missed a single question since elementary school. Is that even living?

They aren't... they’re just normal kids pulling straight As in their graded classes. Some of it’s luck, some is hard work, but honestly, everyone else is doing worse—even if you just look at their behavior. You don't have to be some total overachiever to walk out of middle school with those 60 points plus extra credit for conduct, right?
They aren't stupid, and it’s not like their parents shoved anything specific down their throats. They just don't have a clue where they're headed, even though they've got the chance to go to a good prep school. Isn't that just how it goes?

For some people—the actually bright ones—it isn't a choice. But then you have the overachievers who push themselves into prep school purely for the status. They have no idea what they want to do with their lives, so they figure, "Hey, let's go to a prestigious academy so everyone thinks, 'Wow, look at that genius.'"
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goldenjackal43 said:alhidada, the correlation between test scores and intelligence sits at roughly 0.5.

The truly elite prep schools are defined by their performance on standardized exams, their success in academic competitions, and the sheer number of points required to secure an enrollment spot—though while the official cutoff might be around a 58, anyone worth their salt knows the real threshold is closer to a 60 or 61. These are the external metrics that ultimately define what makes a top-tier academy.

Maybe that held true twenty or thirty years ago when people actually sat down to study and retain information. In this day and age? I wouldn't bet on such a strong connection existing anymore.

goldenjackal43 said:alhidada, the correlation between test scores and intelligence sits at roughly 0.5.

The truly elite prep schools are defined by their performance on standardized exams, their success in academic competitions, and the sheer number of points required to secure an enrollment spot—though while the official cutoff might be around a 58, anyone worth their salt knows the real threshold is closer to a 60 or 61. These are the external metrics that ultimately define what makes a top-tier academy.

If that’s how you choose to define a "good" school, fine.
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goldenjackal43 said:See, there’s the double standard. You argue that someone can excel in a trade school and that prep schools aren't the only path to success, yet you seem to treat graduates from those elite academies as if they are one monolithic, superior group.

The reality is this: if someone successfully navigates a rigorous preparatory academy, they possess a certain baseline level of intelligence compared to the average student. It doesn't mean they are a genius, nor does it mean they are inherently smarter than everyone in a technical program, but if they can handle that academic workload, they could likely manage most vocational curricula as well (granted, there are niche trades requiring highly specific talents). The reverse isn't necessarily true, though I suspect a significant number of talented trade students could succeed in a top-tier prep school if they applied themselves accordingly.

I also know several master craftsmen—people who finished three-year programs—and I’m thinking specifically of my neighbor, a carpenter, whose skills could put both prep school grads and trade specialists alike to shame (myself included).

Fair enough. On the flip side, I know one particular prep school graduate who could make any trade specialist, any vocational instructor, and even most academy professors look incompetent by comparison. I hope you see now why these individual anecdotes are completely irrelevant to the core of this discussion.

When you first step into the workforce, there’s always that predictable divide: the liberal arts grad is a walking textbook, full of theory but zero field experience, while the trade school specialist hits the ground running with hands-on skills. It’s a classic standoff between the thinker and the doer. But give it about ten years? They eventually meet right in the middle. Is it any wonder they both end up in the same place?

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goldenjackal43 said:See, there’s the double standard. You argue that someone can excel in a trade school and that prep schools aren't the only path to success, yet you seem to treat graduates from those elite academies as if they are one monolithic, superior group.

The reality is this: if someone successfully navigates a rigorous preparatory academy, they possess a certain baseline level of intelligence compared to the average student. It doesn't mean they are a genius, nor does it mean they are inherently smarter than everyone in a technical program, but if they can handle that academic workload, they could likely manage most vocational curricula as well (granted, there are niche trades requiring highly specific talents). The reverse isn't necessarily true, though I suspect a significant number of talented trade students could succeed in a top-tier prep school if they applied themselves accordingly.

I also know several master craftsmen—people who finished three-year programs—and I’m thinking specifically of my neighbor, a carpenter, whose skills could put both prep school grads and trade specialists alike to shame (myself included).

Fair enough. On the flip side, I know one particular prep school graduate who could make any trade specialist, any vocational instructor, and even most academy professors look incompetent by comparison. I hope you see now why these individual anecdotes are completely irrelevant to the core of this discussion.

What exactly defines a "prestigious" high school? Is it just about the ivy-covered walls and the selective entrance exams, or is there something more to it?

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goldenjackal43 said:See, there’s the double standard. You argue that someone can excel in a trade school and that prep schools aren't the only path to success, yet you seem to treat graduates from those elite academies as if they are one monolithic, superior group.

The reality is this: if someone successfully navigates a rigorous preparatory academy, they possess a certain baseline level of intelligence compared to the average student. It doesn't mean they are a genius, nor does it mean they are inherently smarter than everyone in a technical program, but if they can handle that academic workload, they could likely manage most vocational curricula as well (granted, there are niche trades requiring highly specific talents). The reverse isn't necessarily true, though I suspect a significant number of talented trade students could succeed in a top-tier prep school if they applied themselves accordingly.

I also know several master craftsmen—people who finished three-year programs—and I’m thinking specifically of my neighbor, a carpenter, whose skills could put both prep school grads and trade specialists alike to shame (myself included).

Fair enough. On the flip side, I know one particular prep school graduate who could make any trade specialist, any vocational instructor, and even most academy professors look incompetent by comparison. I hope you see now why these individual anecdotes are completely irrelevant to the core of this discussion.

It’s settled. We have a deal.

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goldenjackal43 said:See, there’s the double standard. You argue that someone can excel in a trade school and that prep schools aren't the only path to success, yet you seem to treat graduates from those elite academies as if they are one monolithic, superior group.

The reality is this: if someone successfully navigates a rigorous preparatory academy, they possess a certain baseline level of intelligence compared to the average student. It doesn't mean they are a genius, nor does it mean they are inherently smarter than everyone in a technical program, but if they can handle that academic workload, they could likely manage most vocational curricula as well (granted, there are niche trades requiring highly specific talents). The reverse isn't necessarily true, though I suspect a significant number of talented trade students could succeed in a top-tier prep school if they applied themselves accordingly.

I also know several master craftsmen—people who finished three-year programs—and I’m thinking specifically of my neighbor, a carpenter, whose skills could put both prep school grads and trade specialists alike to shame (myself included).

Fair enough. On the flip side, I know one particular prep school graduate who could make any trade specialist, any vocational instructor, and even most academy professors look incompetent by comparison. I hope you see now why these individual anecdotes are completely irrelevant to the core of this discussion.

Kudos to him—honestly, he should just keep doing exactly what he’s doing. I decided to kick this thread off because someone mentioned that high school honors students are basically forced into university while everyone else in vocational programs should just be left to pick up the pieces. Obviously, they didn't say it quite like that, but you get the gist of the condescension.
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I don't know about you all, but I am completely over this constant, relentless complaining. Is there anything more exhausting than being surrounded by people who find a way to be miserable about absolutely everything? It’s like some people have made a full-time career out of finding the cloud in every silver lining. Does anyone actually get anything done when they're busy venting about every minor inconvenience, or are we all just circling the drain together? Honestly, it’s getting old. kaže:
Sure, you can graduate from high school and still be an idiot. But what’s the endgame there? You walk across that stage, grab the diploma, and then what? Does the paper somehow fix the lack of common sense? It doesn't. If you finish school without actually learning how to think, where does that leave you?

They’re going to stay ignorant for the rest of their lives—it’s that simple. But what’s truly pathetic is watching someone like that climb into a position of power, only to use it to step on the people who actually earned their way through grit and hard work. Is that really how the world is supposed to function?
I can't even begin to wrap my head around this one. Seriously, what are we actually doing here? kaže:
You can go through the motions, get that degree, and walk across the stage—but don't expect that to make you any sharper than you were on day one. Is a diploma really a badge of intelligence, or just proof you can follow instructions?

Sure thing.
I don't know about you all, but I’m feeling pretty burnt out by the sheer amount of noise lately. Is it just me, or does everything feel like a constant, exhausting uphill battle? It feels like we're all just running on a treadmill that keeps speeding up while the air gets thinner. Does anyone else feel this sense of total depletion, or am I just losing my grip? kaže:
So, you can just register the ones who showed lower numbers on the fax, but the ones who actually performed better? How does that even make sense?

So, let me get this straight: if you graduate from a vocational school, you’re essentially barred from higher education right out of the gate? You’re somehow deemed "lesser than" from day one? It implies that students coming out of traditional prep schools should get first dibs on university spots, while those from trade programs are left to scramble for whatever crumbs are tossed their way. Is that really how we want to structure our workforce? Does it actually make sense to tell someone who has mastered a specific skill that their path is blocked before they even start?
I can't believe I'm actually sitting here typing this out. Is anyone else feeling this? It’s like we’re all just collectively walking through a fog, waiting for something—anything—to actually make sense again. Does anyone else feel that heavy, restless weight in their chest lately? It’s exhausting. Truly. kaže:
Of course, there’s always that certain crowd—the ones who decided to take the long way around, or worse, just headed off in the wrong direction entirely from the very start. Why does it always seem to be the same pattern?
Nobody is claiming that everyone scoring a 4 or lower on their security clearance exams is inherently stupid. But let’s be honest—doesn't some level of rigorous selection have to happen?

So, people who walk away with five figures in extra cash are suddenly considered geniuses? Give me a break. Unless we're talking about the rare outliers, most of them just got lucky. Or maybe they just knew which way the wind was blowing. Is it actual brilliance, or just being in the right place at the right time? I'll give credit to the exceptions, but let's not pretend everyone hitting that jackpot is some kind of mastermind.
I don't know about you all, but I’m feeling pretty exhausted lately. Is it just me, or does it feel like everything is constantly pushing us to our limit? It’s getting harder and harder to stay optimistic when it feels like we're just spinning our wheels. Does anyone else feel this way, or am I just losing my edge? kaže:
So, what exactly was the point of that? What were you actually trying to get at?
He went to school, put in the work, and actually mastered his craft. He’s a damn good professional now. So, what was the point of all that? Should he have just skipped the degree and gone straight into the field? Or is there something more to it than that?
Look, it’s obvious you have to actually use what you know. Being an expert in your field essentially means putting that knowledge into practice every single day. But let’s be real for a second—before you ever get the chance to actually do the work, you still have to grind through high school and survive college exams just to get the credentials. Isn't that just the way it works?

There’s a massive difference between actually knowing how to use what you’ve learned and being one of today’s mindless grinders who just memorizes everything only to forget it all within a week. Rare exceptions exist, of course.
Rachel Jones8 said:You got it wrong.
I agree laziness and neglect lead to ruin, but I still maintain you don't need to be a genius to graduate high school, nor does graduating make you some kind of mastermind.

But can't someone just be dumb, finish high school, and stay just as dumb... so what?
You can even finish college without being super smart. You just can't get people into certain universities if they didn't perform well earlier, while those who did perform better get in.
I know plenty of people who went to vocational school and then turned out to be way more skilled and sharper at college or on the job than the kids from prep schools.

Sure, there are always people taking the long or difficult route.
Nobody's claiming that kids passing middle school with straight A's are necessarily geniuses... but some kind of selection process has to happen.
I also know a few tradesmen (three-year programs), specifically my neighbor who's a carpenter—he could honestly put both prep school grads and vocational students to shame (myself included). The guy had one year of geometry in school, but he knows how to actually apply it, which is the real deal. Unlike the bookworms (whether they're vocational or prep school types), he actually uses what he learned, and applying knowledge is what matters most when you want to compete in the workforce (even if employers don't appreciate it).

And what was your point there?
The guy picked a trade, became an expert at it, and is a great craftsman. Was he supposed to go the academic route instead, or what?
Obviously, you have to apply what you know... and being good at your job means applying that knowledge. But to finish high school and college, you still have to study and pass exams.
I think parents push their kids toward prep schools because someone shoved the idea in their heads that it's the only way to success, making them think their kid will become a superstar instantly, but they're wrong.
Kids should be allowed to decide which school they want to attend. Once they make a choice, parents should support them, offer advice, and maybe even help them pivot to a different path if needed.

Yeah, all parents are clueless.
It doesn't occur to them that the kids are often the ones choosing the prep school route—either because they can (they have the grades) or because they have no idea what else to do.

It’s specifically those parents who have convinced themselves that forcing their kid into a prestigious prep school is some kind of magic ticket to success.
Rachel Jones8 said:You got it wrong.
I agree laziness and neglect lead to ruin, but I still maintain you don't need to be a genius to graduate high school, nor does graduating make you some kind of mastermind.

But can't someone just be dumb, finish high school, and stay just as dumb... so what?
You can even finish college without being super smart. You just can't get people into certain universities if they didn't perform well earlier, while those who did perform better get in.
I know plenty of people who went to vocational school and then turned out to be way more skilled and sharper at college or on the job than the kids from prep schools.

Sure, there are always people taking the long or difficult route.
Nobody's claiming that kids passing middle school with straight A's are necessarily geniuses... but some kind of selection process has to happen.
I also know a few tradesmen (three-year programs), specifically my neighbor who's a carpenter—he could honestly put both prep school grads and vocational students to shame (myself included). The guy had one year of geometry in school, but he knows how to actually apply it, which is the real deal. Unlike the bookworms (whether they're vocational or prep school types), he actually uses what he learned, and applying knowledge is what matters most when you want to compete in the workforce (even if employers don't appreciate it).

And what was your point there?
The guy picked a trade, became an expert at it, and is a great craftsman. Was he supposed to go the academic route instead, or what?
Obviously, you have to apply what you know... and being good at your job means applying that knowledge. But to finish high school and college, you still have to study and pass exams.
I think parents push their kids toward prep schools because someone shoved the idea in their heads that it's the only way to success, making them think their kid will become a superstar instantly, but they're wrong.
Kids should be allowed to decide which school they want to attend. Once they make a choice, parents should support them, offer advice, and maybe even help them pivot to a different path if needed.

Yeah, all parents are clueless.
It doesn't occur to them that the kids are often the ones choosing the prep school route—either because they can (they have the grades) or because they have no idea what else to do.

Those are the rare exceptions I’m talking about. Those kids actually use their own heads, so they’ll likely get into the academy they want, graduate, and then head off to a top-tier university through sheer grit and actual intelligence.
Rachel Jones8 said:You got it wrong.
I agree laziness and neglect lead to ruin, but I still maintain you don't need to be a genius to graduate high school, nor does graduating make you some kind of mastermind.

But can't someone just be dumb, finish high school, and stay just as dumb... so what?
You can even finish college without being super smart. You just can't get people into certain universities if they didn't perform well earlier, while those who did perform better get in.
I know plenty of people who went to vocational school and then turned out to be way more skilled and sharper at college or on the job than the kids from prep schools.

Sure, there are always people taking the long or difficult route.
Nobody's claiming that kids passing middle school with straight A's are necessarily geniuses... but some kind of selection process has to happen.
I also know a few tradesmen (three-year programs), specifically my neighbor who's a carpenter—he could honestly put both prep school grads and vocational students to shame (myself included). The guy had one year of geometry in school, but he knows how to actually apply it, which is the real deal. Unlike the bookworms (whether they're vocational or prep school types), he actually uses what he learned, and applying knowledge is what matters most when you want to compete in the workforce (even if employers don't appreciate it).

And what was your point there?
The guy picked a trade, became an expert at it, and is a great craftsman. Was he supposed to go the academic route instead, or what?
Obviously, you have to apply what you know... and being good at your job means applying that knowledge. But to finish high school and college, you still have to study and pass exams.
I think parents push their kids toward prep schools because someone shoved the idea in their heads that it's the only way to success, making them think their kid will become a superstar instantly, but they're wrong.
Kids should be allowed to decide which school they want to attend. Once they make a choice, parents should support them, offer advice, and maybe even help them pivot to a different path if needed.

Yeah, all parents are clueless.
It doesn't occur to them that the kids are often the ones choosing the prep school route—either because they can (they have the grades) or because they have no idea what else to do.

Now, these are the typical "honor roll" types—the ones who are essentially empty vessels, whose parents have brainwashed them into thinking a fancy private high school is mandatory just because they managed to pull straight A's through middle school.
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I don't know what to tell you. Some things just never change, do they? It’s the same old cycle, over and over again. Why does everyone act so surprised when the inevitable happens? Honestly, I'm just exhausted by the whole thing. kaže:
Did I actually write that?
Look, if you aren't exactly a genius, surviving high school is going to be an uphill battle. Especially if you end up at one of those elite prep schools where the pressure is relentless. And honestly? Even the kids who think they're smarter than everyone else aren't going to breeze through it that easily either. je He might be brilliant, sure, but he’s lazy and has zero interest in actually hitting the books. If he hasn't figured out how to study by the end of sixth grade—if he hasn't shown any genuine curiosity or passion for a subject, or if his grades are just trashed because he simply refuses to try—then what are we looking at? Basically, if he hasn't found a way to actually demonstrate that intelligence of his, does it even matter?

That’s just how I saw it.

Look, I agree that laziness and pure negligence will absolutely ruin you, but I’m still standing by my point: you don't need to be some kind of genius just to graduate high school, and finishing one certainly doesn't turn you into an overnight prodigy. I know plenty of people who went the vocational route—think trade schools or technical programs—who ended up being far more skilled and capable in their careers than those who spent four years in a traditional prep school. Does a diploma really define your intellect? Not always. I know a few seasoned tradespeople myself—guys who put in three years of solid vocational training—and I have to point to my neighbor, a master carpenter, whose skills are on another level. Honestly, most high school grads or even specialized vocational students would be absolutely embarrassed standing next to him. Even I’d feel a bit outclassed. I spent exactly one year studying geometry in high school, but unlike most people, I actually know how to apply what I learned. That’s the distinction between me and the straight-A types—the techies and the prep school kids who can recite formulas but couldn't solve a real-world problem if their lives depended on it. In my view, the ability to actually *use* knowledge is the only thing that matters if you want to survive in the job market, even if employers are too blind to value it. It seems to me that parents constantly push their kids toward those elite private academies because some outdated social standard convinced them it’s the only path to success. They think sending a kid to a top-tier preparatory school is a guaranteed ticket to stardom, but they’re dead wrong. Why can't we just let kids decide which path they want to take? We should let them make their own choice first, and then—only after they've weighed the options—offer our support, some actual advice, and maybe help them pivot toward a trade or a vocational program if we see they're heading for a dead end.
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Nicholas King said:First off, we started this whole discussion talking about "ruining an entire generation's future," and somehow—I don't know how—we've drifted into much milder territory.

Secondly—and this is the part that actually matters—I still haven't received a straight answer to my simple question: what is the fair and just way to handle kids who, for one reason or another, completely slack off during middle school? Every single time someone gets into a high school they didn't earn through their own merit, it means some other kid—who actually earned that spot with their hard work—gets pushed out. But, well, let's be honest, not everyone has parents with deep pockets or political connections.

There are certain academies where you can get in with lower scores. There are vocational schools where a "reformed" student can independently prepare for the SATs. There are ways to fix this—it’s just that, more often than not, it seems people would rather just pretend the middle school screw-ups never happened and sweep them under the rug...

But what exactly does "bullshit" entail in this context? 😕
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Rachel Jones8 said:It's true, you can definitely screw up at 13 or 14. You can even mess up later on; it's always an option.
But honestly, it's pretty hard to mess up between ages 6 and 12. I don't think a kid could go through all those years and get such a skewed impression of themselves that they struggle later, only to find out they're actually a genius. Or that someone who breezes through the early grades isn't actually cut out for a top-tier prep school. (Theoretically, sure, anything can happen).

In my opinion, those grades from 1st through 6th grade are a much more realistic indicator than whatever chaos happens during 7th and 8th.
A kid who isn't quite there academically usually knows by 6th grade, and they—along with their parents—won't be aiming for those elite private schools or high-end academies.

Just because you enroll in and graduate from an elite prep school doesn't mean you're some kind of genius. Honestly, all you need is a compliant attitude to survive there. ☕Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule!