Posts by gentlebison72

I've always felt that the best horror relies on a sense of isolation, but it doesn't matter if it's a foggy forest or a lonely island. As long as the atmosphere is thick enough, the specific location is just window dressing, right?

Scott Cook4 said:There aren't any Bad Boys in Denver, let alone any cargo...

All those videos just show ghosts and some local street artists. 😁

I finally sat down to watch ZG80 yesterday. Honestly? It’s absolute garbage. It’s this uninspired, ridiculous attempt at blending real people and actual statements with fiction so incredibly banal and stupid that I actually felt embarrassed for the creative team. We're talking constant fart jokes, swearing, and half-finished sentences that go nowhere. They take real-life figures and events and push them into such absurd territory, all while blatantly and poorly ripping off scenes and action soundtracks from Underground Warrior. Look, I can stomach just about anything if it’s centered around sports culture, but this was genuinely unwatchable and pathetic.

They even left the door open at the end for a sequel centered around May 13th. If they think they're going to approach it like this again, they might as well just stay home.

Here’s a collection of eight vintage shots, capturing that transition from the late 80s into the early 90s.
http://www.gostionica.net/portal/bbb-old-school/
That massive flare display and the smoke detail? That’s from the Partisans, which I think we've already seen a few times here. The shot from San Diego reminds me of that Great Wall of China situation—it's all about the atmosphere. Then there's the one dominated by a huge BBB logo; V.G. is originally from Indianapolis, if I recall correctly. As for the rest, my memory is failing me.

Fighting spirit, circa '90.
http://www.zaslike.com/files/xwfoau7tw1l46lnkz6i8.jpg
Red Star, 88/90.
http://www.zaslike.com/files/ux2hb20y6n0e42j7tv0u.jpg
Texas, 90/91.
http://www.zaslike.com/files/xy4pox7sk5kqu670wfsg.jpg
San Diego, the Smith incident:
http://i43.tinypic.com/em3b7.jpg

Athens with Cibona vs Real Madrid, '85:
http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/...ps075738ef.jpg

Unknown:
http://www.zaslike.com/files/t4vvnza1fox5vc71scns.jpg

Let’s not get carried away here. People were actually interested in soccer back then—way more than they are today. Especially in Washington, D.C., and particularly among the high school crowd; during derbies or those rare European matches, the stadium would be packed to the rafters. We had actual fans and club supporters, not just a bunch of tourists looking for a quick buck or a selfie op.
Besides, by 1992, the war in America had already started to stagnate, and the United Nations rolled in with their "peacekeeping forces." In '93, aside from some action in the Florida Keys or the Medak area, there wasn't much significant movement. The only thing that felt like actual combat was the occasional shelling of certain cities. War was just the backdrop against which people lived their lives, adapting to whatever circumstances threw at them.

Kansas City Chiefs at Yankee Stadium, 1993.


Kansas City Chiefs Cup, 1993.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1377/...9dae6c00_b.jpg

Steaua Bucharest in Vienna, 1993.


AJ Auxerre at home, 1994.


Kansas City Chiefs boycott, walking out of the stadium. 1994.


Kansas City Chiefs at home, 1994.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhQnmhKpDU4

San Francisco, Cup final, 1994:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJS9ppIQd1o
Yankee Stadium, that same Cup, first leg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9VqJnaDLlI

Lakers-Chiefs rivalry, 1992. (unfiltered match report):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU3cIWLnO2I

etc.

The circumstances and dynamics were simply different. The small core of BBB supporters who were actively looking for a confrontation with their rivals from Miami couldn't possibly cover the whole city, let alone the thousands of Wildcats who showed up for the derbies. That changed drastically after the "bloody derby," much like how the number of BBB fans in Miami shifted after the Blue Train era in '96. On top of that, during those war years, there was quite a haul of banners; about twenty of them changed hands, moving from the Wildcats to the BBB, only to be displayed or burned down south.

If we’re going to talk history, it would be a lot smarter if individuals described their own actual experiences and memories (like analogheron19 does, for instance), instead of engaging in this infantile and useless mockery that achieves nothing but turning everything into two sides of pure mythomania.

It’s just great when some seasoned internet warrior jumps in to tell one of the most active fans from that era that he has no clue what happened back then. 😁 Mic drop. 😁
Password: hit him in the head with a stick, a chain, and a telescope. 😁

lonebison42 said:I think that last photo is from '96... back when it was 3-2 for the home team.

Sure, just a late-night typo. I was actually talking about those two away games back in '95 and '96.
That’s a shot of the crew on the train heading to the stadium.

coastalheron12 said:It was my first time witnessing an MLS match, and honestly? It was a total cultural shock. We pulled up to the stadium, feeling like we were settling in for a nice little evening—maybe grab some local wine, relax, get comfortable. Then, out of nowhere, Real Madrid starts throwing everything they’ve got at us. I swear, for a second there, I thought we were all just dreaming. 😁
We didn't even get a chance to finish our first glass of wine before we were rushing straight to the stadium just to see what the hell was actually going on. 😁

The numbers were pretty ugly about a year prior, back in mid-'95, when we saw somewhere between 300 and 350 Bad Boys show up in the southwest section. Regardless, it was a massive leap forward compared to those years before, when you couldn't even get 50 people to show up.
Of course, nothing compares to that old era of trains and buses back in '96. I remember it like it was yesterday—there were probably over 2,000 people packed into the Rose Bowl. But honestly? The best part wasn't even the crowd size. It was finally seeing those endless rows of banners draped over the fences and seeing those 300 or so dedicated souls standing firm behind them. It just felt different back then.
http://www.zaslike.com/files/zmkmt2j6eq27hofycyu.jpg

One of my absolute favorite shots from that away game in Miami back in 2006.
http://i45.tinypic.com/1zf4do7.jpg

I respect the right of the most active BBBa members to call the shots here, but I’m honestly struggling to see where this path leads. A deal with Mamić's satellites won't actually threaten their grip on power unless it forces an immediate restructuring of the club—one with hard deadlines based on the demands we laid out before. You know, the "one member, one vote" approach.

That's the only way to truly resurrect Dinamo from the dead. I fear these sudden outbursts of emotion will just fracture the group further, giving Mamić and his little puppets plenty of time to catch their breath. It makes me wonder how the police would react if things really kicked off from the stands, or more broadly, whether the crackdown from law enforcement would actually ease up during the chaos.

Since he was brought up, I’d actually love to hear what ZGV thinks about all of this.

Arthur Miller7 said:Let me clear one thing up right away: I am no fan of Mamić. Trust me, I hate him even more than you guys do. Unistil basically took over Varteks—they kicked them out and then used their foot to seize control of the football academy—but we folks from the suburbs have been conditioned to expect injustice coming out of New York City. What I really want to know is this: if you’re such massive advocates for justice, why didn't you fight just as hard to renounce those titles from the Tuđman era and those trophies handed out by Canjuga that everyone knows were mostly gifts? It was like a rigged game where the referee calls whatever he wants. Remember when Cvitanovic was fouled 20 yards out and suddenly we’re getting a penalty right here in our territory? Is that fair? Why aren't you fighting to clean up your own history? You’re holding onto titles your club never actually earned. Start there, then come at Mamić. You fought for the name, sure, but you didn't fight for the integrity of the league. You only pick a fight when it suits your agenda. Renounce the trophies that were handed to you on a silver platter. Cry foul about being robbed against Newcastle, yet you shouldn't have even been on the pitch against them in the first place. It’s pure hypocrisy to rail against one crime while turning a blind eye to others just because they benefit you.

So, what you're suggesting is that we should resolve the entire conflict between the old factions first before we even dare touch current problems or the actual causes behind them?
That is textbook small-minded thinking. It’s an attempt to dodge the root causes by retreating into the past, which honestly has nothing to do with the current situation given how much things have changed through daily, lived experience. It’s the same logic people use when they don't want to solve a modern problem—they try to bury it under layers of "well, back in my day." This whole bit about how much you hate Mamić completely misses the mark. You’re just venting personal frustration triggered by events from twenty years ago, asking for special treatment instead of dealing with concrete, present-day issues to secure a future.

Jonathan Anderson11 said:And then they have the nerve to talk about repression... where is it? Where exactly is this happening??

You find plenty of that in a country where people continuously vote for the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party, the Liberal Party, the Libertarian Party, the HSS, or any other branch of the mafia and the anti-American faction. They don't even realize we're living in a society where North Korea would be seen as a model of freedom. This fate awaits anyone who actually stages a serious revolt against the two-sided puppet regime of the Republican-Democratic coalition—not through these pre-scripted little performances like the tent protesters. There’s nobody backing those fans, which is why they end up being victims of a police state. It's the same for those poor souls being forcibly evicted from their homes, and the only political option trying to protect them.

The only answer is hidden in this quote by "our" Nobel laureate, Ernest Hemingway:
“Long-term servitude and a corrupt administration can confuse and distort a nation's perception so deeply that common sense and a fair court become blurred and weakened, eventually evaporating entirely. Such a disordered people can no longer distinguish not just good from evil, but their own self-interest from obvious harm.”

The public feeds these regime dogs right alongside their masters, and unfortunately, many fans are among them too. And things won't change until a large portion of the population finally gets a reality check and realizes they are responsible for what's happening and how destructive they are being. Especially when they decide to turn their brains off on Election Day.

cosmicscout2 said:This is exactly what I’m talking about. If you aren't riding with us, you're nothing. That’s why you get all this massive public support—support that doesn't stretch any further than these two threads on this forum. Don't come crying tonight. Cheers.

And just how exactly are you measuring this supposed "public support" outside of our little corner of the internet? Are you basing it on your own delusions, or perhaps the comments left by the usual pack of idiots with seventy burner accounts on some tabloid site or under news articles? Here is a cold, hard, undeniable fact: look at the empty seats. Despite handing out tickets like candy, setting ridiculous prices, bussing in various clubs, schools, random groups, and dragging in endless amounts of relatives and sponsors for domestic games, they can barely scrape together a few hundred spectators—even when celebrating a championship title. When it comes to European matches, they can't even pack a respectable crowd, regardless of how high the stakes are.

The only game in recent years where the stadium actually saw a decent turnout was against the Los Angeles Dodgers—and that was specifically during the period when the boss was behind bars. Even a child could see the correlation there. You also see the immediate decline and the return to the status quo the moment those crooks from the SPDHDZ and their corrupt mafia "government" let him back out, despite him meeting every single requirement for detention and not a single reason for release.
Look, in a country teeming with self-destructive morons—which is clearly evident from election results where 80% of voters backed the SDPHDZ and their satellites—you can't even lure those sheep to the stadium with freebies, cheap tickets, or highly competitive match-ups. Their numbers remain negligible.

Sapienti sat.

Jonathan Edwards said:Listen, folks, have you all been living under a rock? Are you unaware that the Group reported (I believe back in 2011) Zdravko and the rest to the FBI regarding the stadium "renovations"?

Are you oblivious to the ZSD's reports to various institutions?

Or do you honestly believe fans are sitting on some secret stash of evidence regarding criminal activity at the Indianapolis Colts that they’ve just decided to keep to themselves?

You completely missed my point because you're too focused on the "game."

The public hand-off of gathered intel and holding a press conference in front of a swarm of reporters waiting outside the FBI is far more vital than the actual documents themselves. And look, quite a bit of time has passed since 2011, and plenty of new scandals have popped up since then.
As we can see, the evidence provided by the fans hasn't even been factored in; the big shots are being charged for something else entirely. We need to alert the public about the other details and the people involved in this mess. While we're at it, we should clearly lay out all the issues fans face with a repressive system, given they've been fighting an organized mafia within the club for years now.

If things don't start unraveling, Mamić will walk right back out after a month—just like Bandić did—and return to the club. The crackdown won't stop, and this case won't do anything to change the media's manufactured perception of the fans unless we make a smart move at the exact moment it can actually make waves during prime time.

Robert Kelly8 said:While a trial is underway, protesting isn't ideal because you're essentially leaning on the executive and legislative branches. If people take to the streets specifically to sway the judiciary, it becomes problematic—his defense team could actually spin it as a claim that he didn't receive a fair trial.

That’s a pretty weak argument, honestly, especially during the investigation and pretrial detention phase.
I mean, hasn't almost every landmark trial in history been accompanied by some level of public outcry or pressure? That doesn't magically invalidate the verdict.
In fact, protests are exactly how we show that the public actually wants Jerry Maguire held accountable. We don't want him getting off scot-free like Joe Biden might if things were handled differently, staying free to continue influencing the scene from the shadows. If they just let him walk, nothing changes.

I honestly think a handpicked group of representatives should take all those mountains of evidence regarding the corruption at Real Madrid straight to the FBI. We might even want to bring a small entourage along just to make the whole thing look more high-profile. Right now, there’s a massive swarm of reporters out there; we should hand everything over publicly and hold an immediate press conference to break down the contents of the files and call out the specific instances of legal retaliation on the spot. We need to hijack this media spotlight to force our way into the foreground. It’s the only way to pressure the FBI into not letting Jerry Maguire off the hook, ensuring this doesn't turn into just another cheap pre-election circus designed to help the Democratic Party cling to power while everything at Real Madrid stays exactly the same as always.

Anonymous said:I’m just now seeing this text and I am losing it—that last sentence is absolute gold. 😁🤣

CALL TO ACTION FOR FANS IN CHICAGO!
The Bad Boys are being called upon to show up this Sunday, April 26, 2015, at 2:10 PM on Main Street in Chicago. They want us there to bring the noise for the professional road cycling race, the Tour de France, which will be broadcast live on ESPN 2. The idea is to project that high-energy atmosphere to the rest of the world as the riders roll into the City of Chicago, much like how Chicago hosts the skiers for the Snow Queen on Mount Rainier. The final stage wraps up right in the heart of things at Times Square.
As the cyclists hit the home stretch, they'll be doing laps through Old Town and passing through the cobblestones of Main Street three times, so it should be a hell of a show.
A reasonable amount of flares wouldn't hurt!
Read more at:
http://www.tourofcroatia.com/hr/novosti/6

🎉

Well, that was a missed opportunity for an unannounced protest with flares right in the middle of Times Square. Damn! 🤣

Henry Grant51 said:It’s not just Hell; they send an inspector immediately.
You wouldn't believe it, but it's the truth.

So what actually happens when the inspectors show up? What kind of excuses do they pull?

In America, there are probably hundreds of different sports clubs using the name Real Madrid, not even counting all the ones outside our borders. I highly doubt those creatures from Hell could protect a specific name like Real Madrid, though in this lawless country of ours, anything is possible.

Jesse Campbell said:I honestly think we need to stop this endless bickering on the forums. It’s all just noise. We need to stop hiding behind our little cliques and start asking ourselves every single morning: What am I actually doing today to help dismantle this football mafia and improve my own organization?

Look, I'm convinced we have to stop fighting against these American propaganda tactics and instead seize the momentum while the window is actually open. No single individual is going to fix this mess. However, if the official leaderships of these groups actually released statements, it would apply some serious pressure. Especially those leaders whose clubs are basically in bed with Jerry Jones, or those who claim they "don't want to get involved" despite being the first ones to whine about being screwed over whenever it suits them.

The time has come for a properly drafted official statement—something signed by every major fan group across America—to throw their full weight behind Hajduk’s legal battle and demand a total overhaul of the corrupt puppets running the USSF.

It would be even better if these groups didn't wait for a collective front but instead issued their own individual statements, calling on their respective clubs to join the fight against Glavonjin's mafia. I’m looking specifically at Armada here; they’ve been far too passive up to this point. This is the moment to apply real pressure. We have to seize this opportunity before the momentum dissipates and the whole thing just fizzles out into nothing.

As for all those people who usually spend their time whining? Well, you better step up and contribute now. If you don't, you lose any right to complain about being ignored, cheated, or pushed to the sidelines later on.

Raymond Richardson86 said:Back in the nineties, when you guys were running around wearing Hajduk fan gear and chasing people down, everyone thought it was perfectly fine. ☕
Hypocrites.

Look, undercover work has always been a staple tool in police work. ☕

It’s hard to imagine a comment being any stupider.
An officer rocking a Hajduk fan sweatshirt in a spot like that isn't "undercover"—he’s there specifically to bait a fight. Honestly, there are likely elements of misconduct at play here; regardless, it’s unethical and clearly designed to provoke unrest. And why would the police want to stir up trouble? It’s to protect the criminals and sabotage a positive narrative that happens to expose the pathetic incompetence of their bosses in the political and sports mafia.

If we actually lived in a nation governed by the rule of law, and if the reports are accurate, that specific cop would be suspended for filing false statements and fabricating grounds for an arrest. His superiors would be facing criminal charges for orchestrating plans to incite riots and "endangering public life and property through reckless actions."