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Blue Eyes said:I’ll try to give a rough definition of what's considered healthy and normal by using societal standards and "values"... Essentially, being normal and healthy means being the complete opposite of Satir and Kusch...
Personally, I'd argue that being normal and healthy is actually perfectly aligned with Satir and Kusch...
So, looking at the bottom line, in Alcatraz, about 56% of the murderers were Catholic—given that roughly one in four Americans is Catholic—while 26% were Protestant—which is about every second American—plus 6% were Jews, with very few others.
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I think these posters are just talking about someone belonging to a certain group or demographic, rather than their actual religious convictions.
In the US, the vast majority identify as Catholic. But how much of that is a genuine desire to distinguish ourselves from Orthodox Christians or Muslims, and how much is an actual belief in God and all His attributes?
I think you get my point...
Therefore, concluding that most murderers are believers would be completely wrong. Just as it would be wrong to conclude that believers aren't murderers (or suicides) simply because their faith forbids it.
In the moment someone commits murder, they usually aren't leaning on the dogmas and norms instilled in them through upbringing and tradition. We can rule out religious fanatics—the cultists—but that's a different story entirely—a story about mass shooters driven by madness. I won't touch the psychology of killers, as that's a much broader subject...
I have to say, I’m somewhat in agreement with the hierarchy of levels Hrvoje laid out—though I’d suggest adding at least a fifth level. This would be the stage where the human spirit finally breaks free from its earthly, material shackles and begins striving toward a higher spiritual plane. Of course, since we can't precisely measure things like intellect or the soul, we can't strictly rank these stages either. It’s more like a spatio-temporal scale, stretching from zero all the way to infinity...
Still, isn't assigning specific individuals to certain levels a bit too subjective? It seems highly prone to error.
Besides, just like our intellect and emotions, the human spirit matures and evolves—it builds true value over many years...
At the end of the day, we are all made of the same substance. There is the same spiritual spark—call it divine, or whatever you prefer—flickering within us all, and it only takes a small nudge to set it ablaze...