briskviper362 said:And I'm actually pretty happy about that.
And I'm actually pretty happy about that.
Maybe he'll just take that Insignia he thinks he's too good for—the one he still uses every now and then. I guess that would just count as being paid in kind, similar to everyone else who has access to a company vehicle 24/7, and that's that. I mean, obviously, nobody is actually going to demand he pay back any money he wasn't supposed to have and just go back to how things were before.
Maybe he'll just take that Insignia he thinks he's too good for—the one he still uses every now and then. I guess that would just count as being paid in kind, similar to everyone else who has access to a company vehicle 24/7, and that's that. I mean, obviously, nobody is actually going to demand he pay back any money he wasn't supposed to have and just go back to how things were before.
Which part of that "then they'll just take an official car" line actually implies anything else? I don't get why you felt the need to throw in an "or."
That official one is probably going to run a bit more expensive.
Assumption 2
Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.
That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.
In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.
The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Assumption 2
Your attempt at analysis is interesting. It reminds me of the old days when kids from Brooklyn would go looking for fights with kids from Queens or try to sell bricks on the corner.
That narrative of yours—about the good guys who weren't part of Bandić's crew and are now
getting screwed—is pretty predictable.
In a real company, you know who does quality work. Fanaticism doesn't play a role in job descriptions or compensation packages.
The loudest Bandić supporters probably just had different types of employment contracts, which is why they were so vocal. No employer is going to protect people who openly discredit them.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Which part of that "then they'll just take an official car" line actually implies anything else? I don't get why you felt the need to throw in an "or."
That official one is probably going to run a bit more expensive.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Look, I never said those people should get any special treatment when it comes to "sharing" executive roles, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I never suggested they should have an advantage whatsoever.
In my experience, generational employment actually results in high-quality workers who truly care about their jobs and how they perform them, simply because they feel a sense of responsibility toward the older generations who paved the way before them. We can talk all we want about nepotism or whatever scandal is hitting the headlines at a public corporation, but that’s just how it works. You see countless examples of this in the capitalist world too, especially in massive manufacturing giants like Ford, John Deere, or Mack...
Think about a grandfather who was a conductor, a father in administration, and then a son who grew up in the city, eventually becoming a mid-level manager who spoke about the company's history with genuine pride. Together, they put over a hundred years of service into the MTA, and just a year ago, the son retired. He was one of the last people I knew who actually gave a damn about the system.
And sure, those days are ancient history. It started sliding downhill once the holding company was formed, and now the whole thing is just in a freefall.
Your attitude toward the employees at the holding company is nothing more than a copy-paste of the current administration's rhetoric, and frankly, the results of this "reform"—and how these people are treated—will reflect exactly that.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
I see where you're coming from, I really do, but that's just not how things work here. Out of eleven openings for department heads, only five were filled, and not one single person was picked from within the municipal conglomerate. All eleven applicants were internal candidates, so do you honestly believe every single one of them was so incompetent that they weren't qualified? It seems they'd much rather grab someone off a job board and hand them an operational leadership role than promote anyone from the inside.
And what about those other six vacancies? They were just canceled. That's the textbook definition of playing favorites, except this time it's the interests of the new administration. They'd rather have nobody in charge than someone from the old guard. They went looking desperately for outside talent, but it turns out there simply wasn't a pool of experts willing to jump in and satisfy the whims of the new political party.
I can't speak to those with "different" contracts, but I don't think it's quite what you're suggesting, because during the first wave, they managed to shake off a good chunk of the cronies, and now everyone who survived that initial purge is slowly trickling out. It's not even about their current contracts, since the crew is actually landing new ones and even moving into management roles.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Look, I never said those people should get any special treatment when it comes to "sharing" executive roles, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I never suggested they should have an advantage whatsoever.
In my experience, generational employment actually results in high-quality workers who truly care about their jobs and how they perform them, simply because they feel a sense of responsibility toward the older generations who paved the way before them. We can talk all we want about nepotism or whatever scandal is hitting the headlines at a public corporation, but that’s just how it works. You see countless examples of this in the capitalist world too, especially in massive manufacturing giants like Ford, John Deere, or Mack...
Think about a grandfather who was a conductor, a father in administration, and then a son who grew up in the city, eventually becoming a mid-level manager who spoke about the company's history with genuine pride. Together, they put over a hundred years of service into the MTA, and just a year ago, the son retired. He was one of the last people I knew who actually gave a damn about the system.
And sure, those days are ancient history. It started sliding downhill once the holding company was formed, and now the whole thing is just in a freefall.
Your attitude toward the employees at the holding company is nothing more than a copy-paste of the current administration's rhetoric, and frankly, the results of this "reform"—and how these people are treated—will reflect exactly that.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Look, I never said those people should get any special treatment when it comes to "sharing" executive roles, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I never suggested they should have an advantage whatsoever.
In my experience, generational employment actually results in high-quality workers who truly care about their jobs and how they perform them, simply because they feel a sense of responsibility toward the older generations who paved the way before them. We can talk all we want about nepotism or whatever scandal is hitting the headlines at a public corporation, but that’s just how it works. You see countless examples of this in the capitalist world too, especially in massive manufacturing giants like Ford, John Deere, or Mack...
Think about a grandfather who was a conductor, a father in administration, and then a son who grew up in the city, eventually becoming a mid-level manager who spoke about the company's history with genuine pride. Together, they put over a hundred years of service into the MTA, and just a year ago, the son retired. He was one of the last people I knew who actually gave a damn about the system.
And sure, those days are ancient history. It started sliding downhill once the holding company was formed, and now the whole thing is just in a freefall.
Your attitude toward the employees at the holding company is nothing more than a copy-paste of the current administration's rhetoric, and frankly, the results of this "reform"—and how these people are treated—will reflect exactly that.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Believe it or not, the seats are empty and there aren't even any Vanguard execs stepping in. How does anything get done? You just have board members assigned to certain sectors delegating tasks down to whoever happens to be in that department, with no actual directors in place to manage the chaos.
Since I haven't worked for government agencies or big municipal companies before, this caught my eye. Do they really have to post public job openings for director positions? Is there a specific law that stops them from just promoting someone internally without a formal process? And more importantly, who is actually doing the job right now while these postings are canceled? I guess some Vanguard director is probably covering, because I doubt they're incompetent enough to leave essential roles vacant until the process finishes. Why not just give those people who are clearly good enough for Vanguard a shot at being directors?
It feels pretty discouraging if someone who works hard and stays dedicated can't be promoted, and instead has to compete in a public search against whoever happens to be passing by. It's almost like a calculated move to kill any motivation or ambition and push talented people toward the private sector. It’s like a slap in the face to everyone in the system, essentially telling them they just aren't good enough.
Exactly. People don't even realize that even in systems like this, there are folks who genuinely care about their work. There are people for whom working at, say, Central Park or the MTA means everything because their grandfathers, fathers, or mothers worked there too, and they feel a deep sense of responsibility to uphold that legacy. I know plenty of them. Of course, you have the opposite type of people, just like everywhere else. But treating dedicated employees this way is fatal; as I mentioned before, we've seen people leaving the roster lately against their will, but we're also seeing the frontline staff—drivers who can make much better money in the private sector or outside the USA—just walking away. In the last few weeks, even the administrative staff have been quitting voluntarily, taking lower-paying jobs outside the system because they see which way the wind is blowing. By the end of autumn, anyone with one foot out the door is going to vanish, because the ones who actually know how to do the job, the ones who roll up their sleeves and get things done, are already scrambling to find an exit.
It’s a tragedy to watch, seeing the healthy parts of the administration and the core operations just crumble away.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Look, if you're considering bringing him onto your team, just remember—you aren't under any obligation to do it. It's entirely up to you.
It honestly feels a bit off when you see someone who’s actually putting in the work—someone truly dedicated and doing a great job—get passed over for a promotion. Instead of just being moved up, they’re forced to go through some formal public job posting process where anyone off the street can apply and throw their hat in the ring. It’s a strange way to handle talent.
What does any of that have to do with anything? 😵
If you've actually put in the work and stayed on top of things, that’s going to count for a lot when you're up against someone who just drifted in off the street.
Man... let’s just keep the nepotism coming, shall we? 🎉
I remember what that jerk from the MTA said a few years back—he was talking about pushing through some new regulation so that employees' family members would get priority when it comes to hiring.
You’d really take it to the next level, wouldn't you? Giving priority to all those people who only landed their jobs through family connections when it comes to handing out director roles... man, that's a pro move right there. 👍
I honestly don't doubt for a second that you know plenty of people like that, mostly because that's exactly the type of crowd that runs the show over at City Hall. It wouldn't even surprise me if you had some kind of ancestral connection to the inner workings of the New York City administration yourself.
But honestly, you've got to face the music at some point—it's time to accept that window has completely slammed shut.
Look, I never said those people should get any special treatment when it comes to "sharing" executive roles, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I never suggested they should have an advantage whatsoever.
In my experience, generational employment actually results in high-quality workers who truly care about their jobs and how they perform them, simply because they feel a sense of responsibility toward the older generations who paved the way before them. We can talk all we want about nepotism or whatever scandal is hitting the headlines at a public corporation, but that’s just how it works. You see countless examples of this in the capitalist world too, especially in massive manufacturing giants like Ford, John Deere, or Mack...
Think about a grandfather who was a conductor, a father in administration, and then a son who grew up in the city, eventually becoming a mid-level manager who spoke about the company's history with genuine pride. Together, they put over a hundred years of service into the MTA, and just a year ago, the son retired. He was one of the last people I knew who actually gave a damn about the system.
And sure, those days are ancient history. It started sliding downhill once the holding company was formed, and now the whole thing is just in a freefall.
Your attitude toward the employees at the holding company is nothing more than a copy-paste of the current administration's rhetoric, and frankly, the results of this "reform"—and how these people are treated—will reflect exactly that.
Look, I never said those people should get any special treatment when it comes to "sharing" executive roles, so please stop putting words in my mouth. I never suggested they should have an advantage whatsoever.
In my experience, generational employment actually results in high-quality workers who truly care about their jobs and how they perform them, simply because they feel a sense of responsibility toward the older generations who paved the way before them. We can talk all we want about nepotism or whatever scandal is hitting the headlines at a public corporation, but that’s just how it works. You see countless examples of this in the capitalist world too, especially in massive manufacturing giants like Ford, John Deere, or Mack...
Think about a grandfather who was a conductor, a father in administration, and then a son who grew up in the city, eventually becoming a mid-level manager who spoke about the company's history with genuine pride. Together, they put over a hundred years of service into the MTA, and just a year ago, the son retired. He was one of the last people I knew who actually gave a damn about the system.
And sure, those days are ancient history. It started sliding downhill once the holding company was formed, and now the whole thing is just in a freefall.
Your attitude toward the employees at the holding company is nothing more than a copy-paste of the current administration's rhetoric, and frankly, the results of this "reform"—and how these people are treated—will reflect exactly that.
Would they actually fire bad workers like they do at Ford, or would they be protected by collective bargaining agreements like grizzly bears in the woods?