brightheron64 said:I honestly can't wrap my head around this relentless urge people have to downplay China's progress...
Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly sitting here hugging their political system, but facts are facts.
If we’re going to dismiss Chinese patents and scientific research just because someone might focus on the life cycle of silkworms or the mating habits of pandas, then we have to remember that there are plenty of doctors right here in the US who dedicated their entire careers to studying butterflies or the sexual lives of grizzlies...
The whole point of the story is how they are aggressively moving forward, effectively performing a "brain drain" on global knowledge and implementing all of it into their own economy, yet this entire debate seems to hinge solely on whether the Chinese can catch up to the West.
Just 150 years ago, things were looking pretty bleak for them; they were losing countless lives just building the transcontinental railroads, but today, the narrative has shifted quite significantly—if you just look at the development of their rail networks compared to ours in the US...
And while we're talking about steel, even Americans didn't invent modern blast furnaces, let alone the specific Siemens-Martenov method for high-quality steel; they copied that too, and we all know where it came from.
But let's pivot back to the Russians. As my colleague pointed out, 25,000 patents is practically nothing considering the sheer size and potential of a nation like that—it's nearly half of what you'd see in the Netherlands. But the most depressing part of this whole saga isn't the Chinese or the Russians; it's us, the Americans, because per capita, we are falling way below those struggling Russians who have completely botched things by trying to play both a superpower and a group of wealthy sheiks simultaneously... especially since, alongside gas and oil, they actually have decent agriculture and raw materials, which is really just the most basic way to leverage your own resources.
My dear friend, a dictatorship did far more for America than thirty years of our democracy ever could...
Look, if you're truly interested, here's just one minor detail to consider—cartography, specifically maritime mapping...
And I don't know why people are trying to twist my words when it's still obvious what I meant. So fine, the Chinese have tons of patents. Great. My question stands: in which specific field are Chinese patents actually ahead of the West?
Also, I never said they imported tech specifically from Americans—I said they got it from the West.