Posts by Christian Torres3

rustywalker82 said:It was only a matter of time before we started seeing "expert" armchair analysts popping up everywhere on this forum alongside the actual pros. 😁

So, if you know how much energy was released, you automatically know the weight of the explosives used? 🙂
Everything is already figured out, apparently. I remember hearing about a lab setup where they simulated this—they calculated exactly when the barrel would fail, what kind of explosive was involved, how much energy came from the blast versus the gas pressure, and how the surrounding environment reacted differently than it would during a standard earthquake.
But hey, why bother investigating further? The "experts" already said there's nothing left to find.

Exactly—except apparently that's some high-level math for you.

When measuring massive amounts of energy released during explosions, people use a unit outside the standard SI system called the TNT equivalent. This represents the energy released by one ton of TNT, which equals 4.184 × 10^9
https://www.britannica.com/science/TNT-explosive

rustywalker82 said:Neither you nor I have any clue exactly how many kilos of explosives it takes to puncture a pipeline. Nobody does until the official investigation wraps up.
Common sense tells me that, say, Russia isn't just going to wake up tomorrow, change their minds, and offer up their territory to whoever wants it instead of occupying Ukraine. So, things can make sense even if the initial Russian invasion of Ukraine seemed totally irrational.

I wouldn't bet on that, because there's this weird detail where the attack on Nord Stream was basically telegraphed a week earlier by some supposed explosive threat to the Turkish Stream, which had nothing to do with the Poles (it was either lying Russians or the Ukrainians being blamed).
By the way, it could easily be "convenient"—the Ukrainians are probably already inspecting various shipments of explosives sitting right there in Polish ports.

Your logic is seriously broken. If you actually understand energy output, you can calculate the approximate amount of explosives needed to generate that much force.

rustywalker82 said:Look, there's definitely a risk of facing penalties, but the real question is how big those penalties actually are since both sides were probably "massaging" the contract terms anyway. On one hand, any fine is peanuts compared to the massive risk of losing more territory to aggression.
Basically, trying to dodge penalties for undelivered gas only makes sense if the damage is manageable—like, I don't know, maybe a billion dollars to fix things. But it doesn't make sense if an explosion causes ten billion in damages (not to mention the endless loss from gas that just sits there unsold forever).
Just being realistic with the math: if both pipelines are gone for good, there is zero logic for the Russians to have basically committed suicide.

It makes no sense for Russia to invade Ukraine just to have this happen.

And I haven't even heard the wild theories yet about how Americans would somehow drop explosives 80 or 90 meters deep into the freezing Baltic Sea. For the people dreaming up scenarios involving drones bought on eBay or AliExpress, you realize those explosions were only 2.1 or 2.2 on the Richter scale, right? How much explosive do you even need for that? Five kilograms?

rustywalker82 said:We’re looking at a massive uphill battle here. Honestly, the penalties are going to be a total long shot. First off, the European Union went all in on those sanctions against servicing energy projects tied to Russia, and then they started backtracking on some of them—it's been a mess. On top of that, you've got all these headaches with wire transfers and insurance being basically impossible to navigate right now. Plus, let's be real: most of these gas purchase contracts aren't even permanent, so talking about penalties is a stretch if there isn't even a solid legal foundation to lean on.

Honestly, once you actually see the damage from a leak like this, it’ll be pretty obvious if Russia was behind it. If water gets deep into those pipes and permanently trashes both pipelines, then there's no way it was them. It would be like Russia blowing up their own gas and oil wells just to spite themselves. That doesn't make any sense.
If that’s how the math works out, then Ukraine is basically the only suspect left on the table. I don't see the US being involved here—they weren't even part of the whole mess involving those explosives near the Turkish Stream just last week. At this point, if you're looking for someone to blame, it's either Russia (assuming they aren't lying through their teeth) or it's the Ukrainians.

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If the Russians didn't go through with lifting the Nord Stream restrictions, then why on earth did they shut down the pipeline running through Ukraine? Makes you wonder what the actual endgame is there.

Look, playing games with market prices by having ExxonMobil threaten sanctions against a Ukrainian operator—just because they’re fighting over transit fees that ExxonMobil claims are already settled—is a completely different beast than actually blowing up a pipeline under the Baltic Sea or through Ukraine. It's not even the same league. One is market manipulation; the other is straight-up sabotage. Totally different story.

Ever heard of the word "contract"? You know, where there are specific clauses defining who does what, how, and when? Everything is laid out precisely.

In that case, the only remaining suspect is Ukraine...

Come on, explain to me how Ukrainians would blow up gas pipelines 80-90 meters deep in the ocean when they don't even share a border with them. I'm waiting. Please, enlighten me.

Carl Lee27 said:It looks like the Russians, after already messing with the flow of NS1 and NS2, are now planning to pull the plug on deliveries through Ukraine altogether too.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...35774432444418

Looks like they want to wrap this war up fast. Smart move.

Joshua Myers432 said:Look, you can't just sell off a pipeline or pack it up and move it. It’s a direct line to Russia. There is zero logic in the Russians blowing it up—none at all. Same goes for the Germans; it makes no sense. The only actors that make any sense here are Ukrainians or Americans. Given that Ukrainians likely don't have the capability to pull off sabotage of this scale, that leaves...

Besides, the US rebuilt Germany from the ashes after WWII and jumpstarted their entire industrial sector. If they wanted to tear it down now, they certainly could.🎉

What kind of twisted logic says you can't sell off your stake in a pipeline?

Pure FTW logic.

Joshua Myers432 said:It’s the only thing that makes sense. Why would the Russians blow up their own pipeline when they already hold the kill switch? They can turn the flow on or off whenever they feel like it. It's incredible the kind of nonsense and sheer stupidity they try to feed people these days.🤦

So it's totally illogical that Putin would want to get back at the Germans by destroying billions of dollars in their own property? Right?

There are plenty of more logical explanations for who actually blew up that pipeline.

Donna Harris11 said:Then there's that Biden statement about destroying NS2—it totally slipped his mind. You can find the video clip on Radek Sikorski's Twitter account.

Yeah, and they paired it right with that clip showing those bio-labs developing some special anti-Russian virus.

Anthony Perez9 said:He completely whiffed on this football game. Just total nonsense. ☕

Just a few minor things, otherwise it's fine.

Terry Green3 said:A little more off.
Our allies really screwed us over when they ordered us to hand over our MANPADS. Great weapons, those.
And then, because Mexico—a Russian ally—is acting up, they block our purchases of aircraft and long-range systems from our own allies.
Our leadership could learn a few things from this war and try growing a backbone for once.
Handing over those MANPADS might be the biggest mistake our political elite has ever made regarding the military.

A little more off: if you go to the Military History and Technology subforum and look for posts by MadMax, he goes into way more detail on this. It’s not quite the situation you think it is.

As for the idea that Mexico is blocking anything for us? Honestly, that's just stupid. If we decided tomorrow to buy 12 F-35s and ATACMS (which was mostly just speculation anyway), the Americans would have them delivered in no time.

crimsonorca42 said:https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...23216217538560

"Russia will declare war on Ukraine"

Following the " referendum, they’re apparently going to issue an ultimatum to Ukraine demanding their military withdraw from the occupied territories (Lugandonija, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia). If Ukraine refuses, Russia says they'll officially declare war on Ukraine!

So, was this all just some kind of game until now? Honestly, I can't even wrap my head around how delusional these people are. 😵

I suppose any attempt at having a rational conversation with folks like this is probably just a complete waste of time.

You just don't get it—Russia is finally about to get serious. It was all just a feint. Now they're gonna throw ten Armats and some Su-57s into the mix and just steamroll Ukraine.

brightheron64 said:That wouldn't really be a bluff so much as just selling smoke and mirrors.

Which is why this feels so much more convincing, even if it is just a strategic move:

Sunday The United States would respond decisively to Any Russian Use of nuclear weapons against Ukraine and that IT Had spelled out to Moscow The "catastrophic consequences" it would face.
"If Russia crosses this line, there will be catastrophic consequences for Russia. The United States will respond decisively," Sullivan told NBC's "Meet the Press" program.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ne-2022-09-25/

"Politics is the art of saying nice things while carrying a big stick behind your back" - Dwight Eisenhower

Kimberly Perez82 said:It is all very easy for you people to act brave when it involves risking someone else's children. Honestly, it’s quite something how much everyone suddenly cares about the democracy of some distant country—a place most of you couldn't even point to on a map six months ago. I will say it again: this is absolutely not the moment for the hawks who would happily sacrifice foreign kids for the sake of a hollow concept of democracy that doesn't truly exist anywhere. No, what we need right now is common sense, extreme caution, and a genuine push for compromise so we don't all end up facing a global catastrophe. The only logical path forward is to provide Putin with a way to step back without looking like a complete loser.

You're wasting your breath. ☕

Kimberly Perez82 said:That’s basically how I—and honestly, pretty much the rest of the world—see it. That is the heavy price of making a deal. Once that's done, the goal should be to cripple Russia's economy until they have no choice but to agree to voluntary nuclear disarmament, just so we don't find ourselves staring down the barrel of a situation like this ever again. In my view, China isn't acting quite as irrationally; they won't let themselves get backed into a corner like this. It's Russia that stands as the singular danger.

The rest of the world couldn't care less what you think.

Carol Johnson21 said:A tactical nuclear strike might be the only scenario we can call a certainty right now.
If that happens, the West will lose every single shred of moral high ground used to justify withholding the tools Ukrainians need to defend themselves.

The real weak link? It’s those self-righteous Westerners who will view a nuclear move as definitive proof that Putin isn't bluffing—concluding, therefore, that we should just let him have his way.
In reality, the true vulnerability Putin is exploiting is the pampered class of Westerners: the ones who paradoxically claim to despise Western "decadence" while being the very people responsible for its collapse in the first place.

Kate Cook27 said:I keep coming back to this when I write about how likely a tactical scenario is—it all boils down to whether Putin thinks he can force everyone to walk away from the war by dropping a nuke somewhere. Sure, it could end the fighting, but it would be a fake peace. Russia would just come back later—plus, it sends a message to plenty of other countries that they can start wars and grab territory whenever they want. It reminds me of how people once tried to negotiate with Hitler, which just ended in millions of deaths. Has anyone actually learned anything? We saw the same thing with Crimea—everyone just looked the other way. I don't know how many politicians realize that giving in to an aggressor just invites more violence. You buy peace today, but you pay for much worse unrest tomorrow.
The best deterrent right now might be the idea that Russia will get too distracted by its own mess—especially with this mobilization stuff going on. I was reading about a village where literally every man has been drafted.

"Tactical nuclear" is just the latest buzzword following hypersonic missiles. A tactical strike isn't some "likely scenario"—Russia wouldn't gain a damn thing from it (unless they somehow luck out by dropping 20 at once, maybe?), and the political fallout would be absolute suicide. Using any kind of nuclear weapon is a disaster waiting to happen.

Terry Green3 said:I have no interest in feeding pro-Russian trolls with debate, but for those of you who insist on engaging, I'm asking you not to fuel them by spreading misinformation.

Go ahead then. Tell me exactly what's wrong.

Lisa Patel4 said:Yeah, super realistic.

All you need is enough tractors. We've seen this movie before.

Bradley White73 said:They aren't actually calling for a nuclear strike—they're just trying to scare people. Anyone pushing that narrative is basically doing Putin's dirty work. Just block them and move on.

Exactly.

I just love it when these "neutral" and "unbiased" forum users show up, acting all high and mighty while basically cheering on the aggressors and rewarding them for their behavior.

Brolin said:Look, I really don't have the energy for these kinds of arguments. God, you jumped down my throat so fast—I can already tell I’m gonna spend the next few posts defending myself against being called some kind of Russophile or whatever. Not worth it.

The fact that Ukrainians are holding their own after receiving over $30 billion in aid, years of intensive NATO training, intel, and all that logistics doesn't mean the Russian army is useless—it just means the Americans are miles ahead of everyone else.

The U.S. is lightyears ahead of a Russian force that's currently useless. On the other hand, Germans and Russians have already carved up Poland three times; I'm telling you, the Poles have been fully aware of this for decades and have been seriously prepping their military for exactly this kind of scenario.