Posts by Nancy Thompson3

silentnomad23 said:Since we are already diving into the topic of the ego, I have been pondering a fascinating concept. Imagine if, in the future, we develop a neural network with such an immense number of neurons that it evolves into a robot capable of truly feeling, thinking, and solving problems—essentially becoming just as unpredictable as any living creature. It sounds a bit daunting, doesn't it? If that were to happen, what would become of its ego and its consciousness?

Just look at me. 😬

Jerry Cruz said:So now I see who you really are, alright... Don't get worked up, but I don't meet up with anyone. That's just how I roll!

I know. Don't sweat it.

Jerry Cruz said:Oh, really? Well, let's say I have no clue who you are—if you're feeling lonely, hit me up in a DM.
I distance myself because I value my privacy and some peace and quiet, especially while I'm navigating the early stages of my new diet... Plus, I'm an incredibly sensitive person, so you know how it goes for folks like me.......

Yeah, I know exactly how it is for people like that. We talked about it for ages. That whole thing with Superandrija... the spot... your laptop... even when we grabbed pizza. And remember that night we were hanging out near Castle Rock?
Your card is the Lady hertz.

Noah Sanchez7 said:And what about Kundalini? That really boosts self-confidence..😬

For Borut> What you're saying about Osho makes sense, but don't forget that Osho and Tesla actually share one common goal: helping people and serving humanity..
And they both likely succeeded. We have to remember we're looking at two completely different cultures, and that Osho was able to casually "operate" with his message back in the 60s here in the USA during the explosion of LSD and hippie culture.

How exactly does selfishness actually serve humanity? I mean, think about it... how does just hoarding wealth—letting it sit there, gathering dust without ever actually putting it toward some kind of productive activity or meaningful cause—help anyone? It seems counterintuitive, I guess. Maybe there's a logic to it that I'm just too cynical to see, but on the surface, it feels like we're just spinning our wheels.
Tesla basically walked away from making a profit on AC power. I mean, he didn't exactly have a fleet of 100 Rolls Royces to his name, though honestly, he could've easily had every single Rolls Royce on the planet if he'd played it differently. Maybe he just didn't care about the money, I guess. It’s just one of those things.
He wasn't being selfish, really... I mean, if you look at it that way, the only thing he actually lived for was the WORK. Just pure, unadulterated labor. That was his entire existence, I guess.
Osho was nothing more than a master of the bluff—just constant pivoting, empty posturing, and endless streams of nonsense. Honestly, I guess if you look past all that noise, there’s really nothing left behind but a total illusion.

I guess both sides probably got what they wanted out of it. We can't really ignore the fact that we're talking about two completely different cultures here. And let's be honest—Osho could have easily cruised through with his whole philosophy back in the 60s in the States, especially during that massive explosion of LSD and hippie culture. It was just the right environment for him, I suppose.

I mean, honestly? None of that hippie culture stuff actually did anything useful for humanity. Maybe it gave us a slight bump in birth rates, but that’s about it. Everything else stayed exactly the same—if anything, things actually got worse. The military-industrial complex and those central power hubs just found a better excuse to tighten their grip on everything. It was basically just a way for them to say, "Look at these hippies and what happens the second we loosen the reins even slightly."
Drugs aren't positive. They never will be. I mean, honestly, people try to spin it however they want, but at the end of the day, it's just not a positive thing. It's never going to be.

Hannah Morris3 said:Well, you all certainly have a knack for handing out diagnoses here 😁 . I’m torn between defending myself—reminding you that I’m not some naive kid without a lick of life experience, and that reality isn't nearly as neatly organized as your little theoretical models—or just offering a polite thanks for your "help" 😘 . As boldsailor2 pointed out, sometimes it's just better to keep quiet on these forums 😳 😁

Or maybe it's more like Paul Adrien Maurice Dirac: shut up and calculate! 😬

boldsailor2 said:When you meditate—you really start to realize your consciousness can exist totally separate from your body😉--
then nothing really scares you anymore.🙂

That is spot on. Honestly, I don't even know how else to put it—achieving that level of precision is incredibly difficult. But yeah, you hit the nail on the head there. You articulated that perfectly.

I still have this one question rattling around in my head: back before World War II and during the war itself, those communists really sacrificed everything for their ideals. They were actually quite brave at times, I suppose. But here’s the thing—they didn't believe in any kind of afterlife, not even the Christian idea of resurrection. If you're familiar with the Marxist view of death, it's just... total. It's absolute nothingness. There isn't anything waiting on the other side.
I mean, at the end of the day, they were more than willing to die for their ideals!

Edward Foster57 said:QUOTE: You know what’s actually interesting here, friend.
And who exactly is trying to kill off their ego?
How can you even be sure that you're at the right stage—after having those few minutes or hours of pure, mindless experience—to actually survive without an ego?
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Look, anyone with half a brain feels like the ego is just dead weight. Why the hell are people so terrified of living without one? If you act from your ego, expect that energy to come back at you tenfold. But try acting without that massive "I'm a genius" complex? You'll finally feel how everything in nature actually clicks.
We're all born without an ego. Ever seen a baby struggle to survive just because they didn't have an ego?

Well, yeah, no kid survives on their own. They need a mom or a dad—or someone. You need someone to actually look after them, otherwise, they’re just food for the wolves or the worms pretty much immediately.

Sean Martinez4 said:Chi is basically just sexual energy sitting in the hari. 😉

And if you raise it, it leads to enlightenment. (Or at least, that's what they say regarding the chakras.)
I guess you should probably start practicing Yoga if you're going to talk about chakras and Jewish mysticism. 😬
Even Jewish traditions have more experience with energy work than you do.
I mean, you could definitely look at Kabbalah from a magical perspective. 😬 🤣 🤣 🤣

Stop attacking Jewish people; you clearly don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.

First off, you don't know anything about chakras. The lowest chakra isn't the sexual one. The base chakra is Muladhara, while the sexual one is called Svadhisthana.

So, energy isn't some sexual thing trapped in an aura waiting to be raised. The only thing getting "raised" is your blood pressure when you see someone attractive that you can't have.

Energy is universal; it comes from the cosmos. It's Qi.
Your body just has these centers that receive that energy. What actually "rises" is just the permeability of the channels allowing that flow to happen.

Look, since you're clearly clueless about energy and chakras, maybe try actually learning the basics first.
This might be a good starting point for you.

Jerry Cruz said:Oh, please. You think you’ve got me figured out? Heh... Please. It’s always the same old song and dance, isn't it? Robots taking over, the struggle between man and machine, the massive egos involved, even the food... it just goes on and on. Blah, blah, blah.
CHI-TIMUS! It’s that universal kind of love, isn't it? Right there between the ribs. Whether we're looking at the massive scale of the cosmos or the tiny atoms making up our skin, it's all the same thing. We're just part of the whole, aren't we?

We are, Nina, we really are. But since you’re feeling all this intense love, I guess I have to ask—why don't you ever actually reach out? Why are you always the one pulling away? I mean, if you didn't already know, we're basically friends here. I won't go on about it publicly, though... you're Queen of the Night!

Noah Sanchez7 said:Look, if you'll let me, I have a different take on this...
Everything there was to "unmask," Osho already unmasked. There isn't a question he won't answer—and by that, of course, I don't mean things like "what's the circumference of the sun" or "how many microchips are in a smartphone," topics where you clearly hold expert status.
Furthermore, since he answered all those questions, he naturally reached a certain level of realization. The real question is: what comes after that point? If it's nothingness, fine. Total void, whatever.
But when you actually arrive at that void, what then? You can choose to stay there and stop caring about material things entirely, or you can simply enjoy the material world while you're still living in it.
I think he chose the latter.
And he did it with, I'd say, a certain refined taste—complete with a bit of a rock 'n' roll attitude. Like, "Oh, you guys are flexing your gold? A single gold bar? Watch this, I'm going to build myself a car out of gold... and not just one, but five."

Do you see where I'm coming from, Nancy?

I get what you're trying to say, but I think you've got it all wrong.
First off, I really wouldn't have minded if he were some MAGICIAN who could actually materialize 100 Rolls-Royces out of thin air. But he wasn't. He bought Rolls-Royces. They were manufactured in Rolls-Royce factories, and he didn't earn the money to buy them; it was just given to him by idiots he managed to brainwash.
Second, he spent it on mindless sheep that he didn't create either; he just seduced them through pure manipulation.
Third, enjoying material comforts and luxury aren't the same thing.

As for having all the answers, I guess we could say the same about Master John or Quincy. Just blathering away doesn't mean you're actually answering anything. Being a loudmouth and making stuff up isn't the same as KNOWING.

Regarding the microchips and the size of the sun... yeah. That's easy stuff for someone who has mastered matter. Especially since matter is basically woven into an information matrix via spin modes within the quantum vacuum. Whatever you want to know, the universe will tell you. Just like it told Tesla or Schauberger.

Now, just compare the lives of Tesla, Schauberger, or even Rudolf Steiner, to the chaotic mess left by Gurdjieff and Osh, and you'll see the difference between a spiritual being and a complete fraud.

Noah Sanchez7 said:Fair enough, this whole discussion makes sense. But just because I rely on my laptop or electricity doesn't mean I'm inherently interdependent with others. Similarly, participating in daily life shouldn't require me to adopt whatever dominant value system happens to be in place at the moment.

The fact that I work and earn money isn't about being conditioned by anyone else; it’s about being conditioned by my own Self. No one is forcing you to wake up at 8:00 AM, put on a tie, and head to the office—you’re the one pushing yourself to do that.
Nobody is forcing you to get up at 7:00 AM, throw on coveralls, and head to the car wash, either. You choose to do it, or you're driven by your own needs rather than someone else's.
Furthermore, absolutely nobody is forcing you to say hi to your neighbor or smile at the cashier. Those are entirely your own choices, even if they carry certain consequences (like your neighbor refusing to lend you their lawnmower later).

If you drive a nice Mercedes because you truly believe in its quality, comfort, and reliability, there's nothing wrong with that. It’s also not a problem if you drive it just so people will say, "Look, he's driving the latest Mercedes," but that's honestly a bit pathetic...

A question for Nancy Thompson3: why do you think Osho drove all those things he did, especially the gold ones?

It’s for the exact same reason wealthy Romans loved flaunting their gold. It's because he was just someone who rose from nothing—someone who jumped from rags to riches. I guess there isn't any other explanation. Anything else is just pure self-delusion.

Jerry Cruz said:You both have a point, haha. Sexual energy is really the only fuel we've got, and if there's any way to channel it upward into something universal, that’s what people call CHI.

Driven by ego—that’s a great way to put it. Most of those types carry these heavy, dark auras because their egos are basically crowded with low-level entities and elemental baggage. I'm with you there, Q. Just imagine what happens when you actually cut those ties for them; they'd probably just fold instantly, right? It's their only source of nourishment. Grim, but true.

No. CHI is just universal cosmic energy. It doesn't have anything to do with people, or vitality, or biology, or reproduction.

those lifeless robots are driven by ego—that was a nice way to put it.

Lifeless robots are driven by electrical energy, not some kind of ego. Robots don't have egos; they're just machines.

mostly they have black auras because their ego is full of elementals and entities, I agree with you, Quincy.

Robots don't have auras, especially not black ones. A machine doesn't have an aura; at most, it just has an electromagnetic field around it.

Imagine what happens to those types when you cut those connections, huh? They'll just die out, right? That's their only source of food. Grim, but true.

You mean, like when the power goes out?

Brandon Hall88 said:Could you elaborate on that?

I suppose I could.

No way!

Brandon Hall88 said:I've run into a few people who have managed it.
It’s called solitude.
Not loneliness.

I met one guy who ran the other way from all of it.

Hannah Morris3 said:He wasn't talking about being lonely—he was claiming he isn't part of society. Which is absurd. We're all part of it, whether we like it or not—we either follow the rules imposed on us or face the consequences. Talking about some grand sense of freedom in this context feels like an illusion to me. The reality is simply that some societies are less repressive than others; as a woman, I’m well aware of that. America is actually doing alright. At least it's no longer illegal to be a vegetarian here. We're making progress. Though, I doubt they'd let some kid just sit under a tree and meditate for a year—like that little boy in Nepal... In that case, the authorities would move heaven and earth to stick that poor child into some "appropriate" institution.
You're only free inside your own head (if anyone is)—for now, at least, we can still think whatever we want. As for everything else? Forget it—unless you have the money (power) to buy yourself a little extra breathing room.

Look, it is true that it’s ABSURD. But honestly, I didn't take his words seriously at all, so I was just trying to look at a slightly more realistic angle.
Being truly isolated from society means you have to grow your own FOOD, make your own clothes, manufacture your own shoes, and generate your own power for heat.
If he's using a computer—and if he's actually using it—then he's part of a massive community involving Intel, AMD, and other giant corporations. His machine was likely built mostly in China, the software is probably a Microsoft OS, or if he's some kind of purist, maybe it's something from the GNU project...
Isolated from society? Please. He gets the electricity for that machine from a nuclear plant, a coal plant, or maybe some remote hydroelectric dam out in the sticks.
He pays for an internet subscription, a cell phone plan, or whatever else. To pay those bills, he has to show up somewhere every single day. And so on, and so forth.

Richard Murphy6 said:😁 😂

Isn't it just wonderful? To latch onto someone else, laugh along, and act all big and important without actually having an original thought in your head? Ha, MAGA? I get it, though. It’s definitely easier that way. You just sit there, laughing, thinking about absolutely nothing, and maybe—just maybe—someone will mistake you for being smart.
Unfortunately, this time, the joke is only on you two, because everyone else is (literally) speechless.

Sean Martinez4 said:You honestly have no clue. Maybe go sign up for some nerd school if you're trying this hard to fit in where you don't belong. 😬
You aren't part of any kind of energy. 🤣 🤣 🤣

Exactly. I’ll go ahead and sign up for that bootcamp, while you're already busy teaching the class.
You really haven't got a shot at understanding energies. CHI isn't about sexual energy. It’s universal. Sex is just what those shallow kids obsess over—kids who don't have anything else going for them besides whatever luck they were born with.

If you actually had something productive happening in your life, I guess sex wouldn't be the only thing occupying your brain. Maybe try picking up a book once in a while. There's plenty of... time.

Hannah Morris3 said:If you live in a city, you’re living within a system built on connectivity, interdependence, and cooperation—plain and simple. You don't exist in a vacuum; you're part of a community, and I honestly don't get why you're so desperate to deny that. It's just a fact.

I guess you can still live in total isolation even in a city. A lot of practitioners actually prefer it that way. When you're in a massive metropolitan area, you're actually most protected—mostly because of the sheer MASS of people.
It’s hard for anyone to target you with specific negative energy when it just gets swallowed up by the crowd. In a huge city, people are so incredibly different from one another, and honestly, nobody cares about your differences anyway. So, a practitioner can hide in plain sight quite effectively under those conditions.
On top of that, there’s no real need to dive headfirst into urban social life. You don't have to mingle or hang out with anyone if you don't want to. You can be completely isolated, and nobody is going to pull you aside to ask why you're being such a hermit... which, let's face it, is pretty much impossible to do in a small rural town.

There really are only two ways to be alone: either you retreat into some desolate mountain cave, or you disappear into the middle of a city with millions of people.

Noah Sanchez7 said:🙂

I'm not sure why you're so hung up on "Sony," since Panasonic is the top-tier, high-end brand for turntables...

But I get where you're coming from. I spent plenty of time bouncing around parties back in the day, and I used to own gear and DJ myself.

The drug situation is obvious, but honestly, substances are more prevalent now than ever.
What can I say... Personally, I'd rather just live a quiet life like a regular DJ than be on Valium just to "get through" life.
And it's true—when people snap, they reach for drugs.

So, you see the whole picture clearly... It seems like you do. Doesn't it all just disgust you?
It honestly turns my stomach, and you know what else? The way waitresses flirt at certain bars really gets to me too. The whole scene is repulsive to me, and there isn't a single soul who could convince me to get involved in that kind of lifestyle...

Exactly. I don't do it either, and frankly, it's sickening.