Posts by copperowl2

Paul Campbell3 said:The answer is simply to live.
Stay on the forum if you want to, or walk away if you feel like leaving—because, truth be told, you aren't the person who first arrived, nor are you truly the person who will eventually depart.
Neither staying nor leaving is really your decision to make.

You won't actually see the reality of this until a month or perhaps a year from now, once the illusions you’re currently clinging to become impossible to maintain.
At that point, you might find yourself asking, "How on earth could I have ever believed in something like that?"
But haven't you already asked yourself that at least a hundred times before?
And every single time, you likely thought you had finally stumbled upon the ultimate solution, feeling a brief surge of exhilaration, only to realize you had just deceived yourself yet again.
Illusions are merely swapped out for new ones in an endless cycle; they chase one another as time slips by, life turns into death, and absolutely nothing changes.

The solution is to live—yes, I agree—but is this state, where everything begins to disintegrate through the very act of its own creation, even considered living?
Can a continuous process of decay truly be called the joy of Life?
What a cruel FORCE: it gives birth only to facilitate killing! 🙄
It creates, solely to cast things into suffering! 😲
So, a god like that—whoever we choose to call him—who decides everything for you only to ultimately push you into a canyon of misery, and then has the audacity to hold you accountable for things you didn't even do, is a god that ought to be destroyed.
Because such a god is, quite frankly, a criminal.

What does a fly do when caught in a spider's web?
It struggles, it twists, it writhes, giving every ounce of its being to break the threads before the predator arrives.
Is the fly allowed to simply lift its legs and say, "Nothing is my choice; let the spider devour me"?
We would consider it insane if it did nothing to save itself.

What would Paul Campbell3 do?
Wouldn't she fight?
Of course, she would fight, provided she were AWARE of what was happening.
But a fly stunned within that web (by May) does nothing at all.
It is like a person staring into pitch-black darkness for hours; eventually, their eyes adjust, and they begin to perceive objects.
And they shout, "Hura, I can see!"
But what is it they actually see?
Only the vague outlines of shapes they cannot clearly define.
They construct mental images of those objects, becoming tethered to those images, allowing them to take control, until they are completely lived by those shadows in the dark.
And it is perfectly clear to them that they aren't making any decisions (and in such a state, they truly aren't).
They have merged with the power of deception, letting it flow through them, endlessly.

Paul Campbell3 said:Once a passenger realizes that the driver is merely a reflection—that they are only "seemingly" steering those wild horses, and that the driver possesses only an "illusory" control over both the carriage and the beasts—the passenger, that is, the soul, simply leans back in the rear seat. They stop worrying about whether the horse is tame or wild, or how the driver chooses to handle the reins.

If people here want to relax, be my guest.
BUT:
It is within that very soul that precisely the same POWER that drives the driver's "illusory" control is relaxing.
Which means: sitting in the back or gripping the reins is exactly the SAME thing.
The soul, guided by the ego-consciousness, merely thinks otherwise because it hasn't yet uncovered the DECEPTION through whose "trend" it is currently maturing.
If they weren't the same, stillness wouldn't be the opposite of movement.
The solution isn't to BE AGAINST something, but to be ABOVE IT.
There is a massive distinction there!
In the first scenario, you are always feeding the other side, which essentially means: by sitting in the back, you're just making the carriage race even faster!
You might not see it, but it’s racing, racing, and racing... uncontrollably, perhaps even faster than ever before.

So why does this inner chaos exist?
Perhaps it's because we are constantly being tossed from one extreme to the other, never actually finding the Middle.
My decision to sit in the back or to take the reins is therefore equally meaningless.
And yet, it remains both —my decision!
No matter how much I convince myself that I have let some POWER above all powers take the helm, or how much I believe I am not causing a disturbance, I am still the one driving.

In the Universe, there is Logos; Logos has rules; nature striving for balance ensures that nothing happens by accident.
Chaos is simply the act of DISAGREEING with the natural balance which, among other things, includes suffering.
Who is stronger than what awaits them?
Who is prepared to take the hits that are coming?
Wouldn't they rather strike back?
Of course they would, because they possess blood—hot blood that refuses to follow protocols and acts mechanically according to its exclusive, instinctive nature.
One could stay awake for 23 hours and 59 minutes a day, hovering over their primal soul, and yet all their dreams of self-control will vanish in that one single minute.
Such vigilance is futile!
Isn't the goal of such false vigilance precisely—TO HIDE FROM ONESELF, TO REFUSE RECONCILIATION WITH ONESELF!
But let's not be too gloomy: my sincere congratulations to you all, you will likely receive an Oscar for ACTING that few truly deserve!
Being a master thief, a cheat, and a liar for 23 hours and 59 minutes!
Who wouldn't reward someone like that?
Because: you haven't just been deceiving others (if that were the case, one might actually find a reason to blame you), but you, YOU, have been deceiving YOURSELF!

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Chaos arises as a consequence of resisting the natural laws of Logos, but this resistance is NOT (merely) an act of will.
Life itself, at its very root, opposes the natural balance.
I breathe, I walk, I eat, I drink—in other words, I kill in order to survive...
I have to do it, but nature doesn't give me anything for free.
This is the answer to the many questions people ask in disbelief, perhaps with tears in their eyes: "Why him, of all people, when he was such a good man?"
But: "good" doesn't breathe HERE!
Those who breathe and are good do so because they are simultaneously—AND EVIL!

Likewise:
I have sex, I create; but what am I creating?
I am creating that which is destined to vanish!
Therefore, I am not creating; nothing permanent comes from me.
With my share, I merely support the process where what is dead "above" is briefly brought back to life "below."
Whatever is created from here will experience the joy of life only for as long as it experiences the sorrow of its inevitable decay and end.
From me, TWO! always flows out!
I am quite pathetic!
I desire good, yet I sow evil!
I pretend it isn't so, just so that one single minute of facing myself can remind me WHO I AM.
And here I am, actually daring to believe that I’m somehow skilled enough to remain untouched by misfortune?
What a charming, magnificent delusion!

Which ultimately boils down to this: even when I intend to bow before Logos, I find myself resisting once again!
After a while, when my masks fall away from my face for the nth time, I realize I’ve spent the entire duration just deceiving myself. Again.

So, what is the solution then?
Perhaps we could look at a single example:
The solution is, let's say, simply leaving this forum!😬
Just leave, you people who are shackled here to your own thoughts, feelings, and words.🙏
Try walking away, make a decision, wave them goodbye👋 and then you'll see just how heavy those chains really are—deadly heavy!
You can't?
Do your own thoughts drag you back?
Do you feel that tightening sensation, that insidious sense of emptiness blooming in your gut?
Do you suffer nightmares because of that sudden severance?
Countless images linger behind you, almost screaming: "Come back to us, you created us, and from now on, you have to take care of us!"
And yet some claim (or rather, imagine) that they are living spiritually!🙄
If you are addicted to how others perceive you, if you feed your ego by mirroring the approval of others, if you are so accustomed to applause that you drown your (false and fleeting) greatness in it, then what is the point of even trying to climb the mountain, or moving at all?

Anyway, sorry for the long post.
Screw the word count. 🙄

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hiddenviper9
copperowl2,

The fact that false signs and deceptive directions have been planted along the path doesn't diminish his responsibility one bit. Those who scattered those fake "signs" did so specifically to prevent the sheep from ever leaving the pen. If the sheep were to break free, those controllers would find themselves without food or wool. This is quite literally their struggle for survival, seeing as their entire reality depends on the specific type of energy we provide—the kind they suck out of us. Besides, it’s all about controlling the sheep's consciousness. That is one of the most vital components of the whole game. It ensures the sheep end up policing one another, trying to control each other instead of thinking about escaping the fold or realizing that the day of their slaughter will eventually arrive.

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I couldn't agree more... except that these "aliens" actually emerged from the dark depths of the microcosm rather than the macrocosm.
Which means, really, a person is destroyed by their own emanations: those unchecked emotions and inappropriate thoughts.

Ultimately, everything a person reaps is merely the result of what they once sowed.
No one and nothing can penetrate the system of human nature without our cooperation; we are the ones fueling the forces of chaos.
The only issue is that we remain blissfully unaware of this.
And so, we always find a way to blame "someone else."

hollowfox38,

If you were to apply that little parable to your own life—first and foremost to YOURSELF—you might find that the urge to lecture others simply evaporates.

But why would you?
Let’s start with a few inquiries.
Which driver on the road actually believes they are racing toward the bottom of a canyon?
Do you honestly know a single soul who would ever step forward and admit to such a thing?
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In reality, many drivers actually revel in that downward spiral; to them, it feels exhilarating, a way to grab attention, perhaps even a chance to validate their existence through struggle at the expense of their fellow travelers.
Who among them is going to buy into your allegory?
At best, they will use it as a punchline to mock you, while most will likely dismiss the author as nothing more than a dangerous lunatic.

Go ahead then, indulge in that madness, hollowfox38; try to be useful to them by pointing toward the light piercing their hearts, hoping to ignite the flame of the son Fire within. Try to make the POWER above all powers shatter the layers of their endless egoism and awaken a sense of SELF-AWARENESS.
The moment they sense that you really carry the strength of the sword and the ability to unmask them, they will immediately crucify you and toss your tattered rags to the wind.
Oh, they will do it—they have been doing it forever—because they do not want their carriages to head upward; they want to go DOWN.
Their eyes are fixed firmly on the bottom of the pit, obsessed with the MAGIC and occult forces that might grant them dominance over other drivers racing through the vast depths of the cosmic night.
And eventually, when they realize the wreckage caused by their own ignorance (which, as is tradition, they will ignore), they will conjure hundreds, even thousands, of arguments to blame extraterrestrial forces, hellish angels, or "Satan" for the consequences of their own corruption.

"It's them, they're to blame!" they will scream. "There they are, let's fight back!"
"We are a good people and deserve the chance to rule well, because it is our duty to change the world. But they—they have poisoned us, they brought us evil, and they are the ones ruling us."

That is how these self-absorbed, rushing drivers shield themselves from accountability.
Simply browse through these pages or take a stroll through any religious institution, and you will find dozens of such magicians who, outwardly refined by false theologies and doctrines, look everywhere but inward for someone to blame just to escape their own responsibility.
They shout at the top of their lungs, "Don't let them speak... they lie, they indoctrinate!" They scream just so the mask hiding their own dishonesty and manipulative tendencies remains undisturbed.
So they can continue down their own paths.
So they can continue to poison others with their own lies, manipulating individuals and the masses so that, under the guise of helping others, they can assert their own greatness at everyone else's expense.

hollowfox38,

Do you honestly believe that pouring over all this material is the key to uncovering any actual truth?

If the answers aren't already buried within you, you won't find them tucked away in someone else's prose.

Most of these accounts are written purely for self-interest—so that SOMEONE can see their own reflection in the pages, searching for a sense of identity or trying to validate their own worth. How could anything truly profound exist in something so inherently self-serving?

One person claims this, another insists on that; yet, isn't it obvious they were all just chasing shadows?
If any of them had actually KNOWN the truth, would they really have felt the need to publish a single book about it?
So, who is there to truly understand them?
And more importantly, who exactly are they writing for?
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hollowfox38 said:continued:

Based on my experience counseling victims of UFO kidnapping, there is one recurring theme that defines almost everyone I work with: a profound sense of emotional isolation and the feeling that they simply aren't understood by anyone.

What a blessed population we are!
What would happen if "Earthlings" started kidnapping aliens?
Or if we just decided to "pay them a visit" on their own planets?
It would be absolute carnage—massacres, pillaging, theft, and systematic genetic erasure. Colorful victory banners would wave through the darkness of the cosmos, while under them, the enslaved remains of suppressed aliens would serve as a grim tribute to the democrats and humanists of our supposedly civilized world.

hollowfox38, sometimes you really need to step back and look at the bigger picture. These scenarios you're describing only serve to HIDE the actual source of the problem, which isn't an issue people have with aliens, but rather an issue they have with THEMSELVES. It's every man alone with his own soul.

evo_mene_opet said:It’s all well and good to pray to the universe, God, or whatever else you believe in for protection against negativity and fear, while simply distancing yourself from those people who drain your energy. If you just immerse yourself in love and focus on that, surely nothing can touch you. Right?

And then you get cancer... or maybe you just get hit by a high-speed train.
So much for being untouchable just because you're "living in love" and whispering prayers to the angels.

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Sandra Wilson68 said:How can one even begin to aim for an understanding of their own "fullness" before they've actually encountered the Self and determined whether that state is one of "fullness" or "emptiness"?

How can YOU claim the Self is nothing more than emptiness, just pure Nihilism, before you have actually verified if it truly is—nothing? If I am merely believing without evidence, then you are simply talking out of turn.

Before any real realization occurs, all you can do is "believe without proof" that the Self consists of either "fullness" or "emptiness." You might as well toss Buddha's teachings regarding fullness or emptiness—or the interpretations offered by those who followed him—into the trash, because when it comes to the Self, the only thing that carries weight is one's own direct experience, not the words of Buddha or his various commentators.

I find myself agreeing with you on this point: those who blindly follow the experiences of others without verifying them personally are simply lost.
But Buddha isn't merely some historical figure from the past.
Buddha represents every enlightened being.

Sandra Wilson68:

You keep lecturing me about Buddha's experience of "fullness versus emptiness," claiming it isn't "entirely clear" to me or even to his interpreters. From your choice of words, I can only conclude that Buddha's experience is perfectly clear to YOU. Well, bravo! That implies you've had the experience yourself and have confirmed its "fullness" rather than its "emptiness."

Precisely!

Sandra Wilson68:

I see two opposing "efforts" happening here: first, my attempt to convince you of the Self's "emptiness," and second, your attempt to persuade me of its "fullness."

Your conviction regarding the "fullness" of the Self relies entirely on your faith in Buddha's words or the words of his followers, rather than on experiential proof. Such faith leaves you paralyzed; it holds no real value, not even for yourself, because you don't actually KNOW if what you believe to be true is reality.

Even if what you say were accurate, it would still be—once again—MY OWN EXPERIENCE.
Are you really trying to force YOUR experience onto me?
If you insist that my faith, my knowledge, and my experience amount to NOTHING, then you aren't actually applying your knowledge to anything.
In that case, everything you're presenting is nothing more than hollow theory!

Sandra Wilson68:

And my conviction regarding the "emptiness" of the Self is based on an experience that every human being possesses...

Wonderful!
Then go ahead and tell them.
I honestly look forward to seeing how "every human being" receives your message and decides to follow your lead.

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Sandra Wilson68 said:To truly live as the SELF, to penetrate its very core and achieve true realization, is an impossibility. Or rather, if it were possible, you wouldn’t actually discover anything, because by that point, the SELF has become a void—nothingness, a state of "nirvana."

The theory suggesting that nirvana is mere Nihilism, a total vacuum, stems from those Buddhist schools that failed to grasp the original, esoteric teachings of the Buddha.
One might be tempted to label them heretics.
That specific branch of Buddhism, built upon a flawed premise, is what we call the "Eye doctrine"—a distorted inversion of the original Buddha teaching known as the "Heart doctrine."

In reality, that supposed nothingness is actually FULLNESS.
This FULLNESS is mislabeled as NIHILISM simply because it remains transcendent to our limited human senses.
The truth is that this SELF, as you define it, seeks a way to be realized, but the motive isn't to attain an understanding of emptiness; it is to attain knowledge of fullness.
There is clearly a reason why the SELF desires to be known.
However, that reason doesn't seem to be entirely clear to you.

Once the human SELF finally comprehends the LAW governing its own existence, there will be no difficulty in verifying and confirming that the entire world (the universe) operates under that exact same LAW. It would eventually lead to the realization that seeking the truth about the world before seeking the truth about oneself is a misguided approach.

And then, in the name of some brand-new "truth," people will inevitably launch persecutions, hatred, and wars. Just as history has consistently shown us.

To verify, to confirm, to understand, "there will be no problem"—these are just the same old tired cliches.

Sorry, but that was a pretty unconvincing attempt!

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So, you really believe you’re experiencing that "I" right now?

If you actually are living it, then surely you realize it evolves right along with the world around you, which means it’s impossible for it to offer any kind of rigid, unchanging Eye doctrine.

On the other hand, if you aren't truly living it, how could you ever hope to reach the core of that "I"? Any insight you might stumble upon will always be fleeting, relative, and fundamentally unstable.

In either scenario, the end result remains exactly the same.

That’s why what you’re putting forward feels so incredibly hazy.
It’s almost as if you’ve missed some vital links in the chain, or perhaps you just lack any sense of concrete certainty.

Sandra Wilson68 said:There is really only one thing you don't need to take on faith—something for which we possess actual, undeniable proof of its existence exactly as we perceive it—and that is the SELF. All the fundamental, enduring truths of this world reside within that Self; anyone attempting to hunt them down externally is, to varying degrees, merely forced to rely on blind belief, and in doing so, they inevitably stumble into error.

Consequently, we end up with a multitude of competing "Selves" and a chaotic collection of supposedly "eternal truths," where every single one fights the other, desperately trying to convince the rest that it alone holds the monopoly on reality. 🙂

Munch said:Suppose someone claims they believe in Santa Claus; does that carry the same weight as believing it’s going to rain tomorrow based on our own observations and experience?

But how much value do those same "observations and experiences" actually hold if, say, a cold front gets stuck over the Rockies and the rain misses us entirely, or arrives twelve hours late?
Are these "observations" even worth anything when everything is so inherently relative?
And what about the poor soul who relies on such "observations," only to grab an umbrella for no reason and get soaked because they didn't have one when they actually needed it?