mistybear4 said:If you only had an issue with one single sentence, you could have just asked me to clarify what I actually meant when I wrote it (since things can look totally different depending on which angle you're looking from).
Yeah. But now you've explained it. 🙂
I'll try to explain what kind of selfishness I was talking about...
The problem can arise (and it happens all the time) when someone meets a person at a healthy weight, falls for them, and gets into a relationship because they find them attractive—but then everything shifts and she suddenly becomes twice her size... so now what?
If he complains about it, he comes off as unloving and selfish because he's "only thinking about himself," implying her looks matter more than her personality. But why doesn't anyone ask how she's being selfish by putting him in a position where he *has* to complain, or by ignoring what bothers him just for the sake of "love"? ... And isn't honesty supposed to be the foundation of any relationship?
Then you should have said that's what you were getting at instead of being so brief. 😉
As for that hypothetical scenario you mentioned, you've got a point. Some people only claim to love others when things are going great; most people judge based on appearance and pick partners based on looks. But to me, love stays through thick and thin. You don't just walk away from someone you love because they're going through a rough patch; you try to help them. Just remember, love doesn't keep a scoreboard.
Her boyfriend didn't mind the extra weight, but *she* felt like it bothered him. She felt uncomfortable because she didn't feel desirable to herself... but why?
Exactly. She’s already carrying a heavy load of guilt and self-loathing, and then you swoop in telling her it's fine because she's being "real" instead of "selfish." Her primary concern doesn't have to be her boyfriend, his mom, or anyone else in this world—it's her own relationship with herself. Please, do some reading on Eating Disorders before you chime in. 🙂
I also think that body fat isn't exactly an aphrodisiac. If a woman enters a relationship with me at an ideal weight and then gains weight and tells me, "this is just who I am, I don't care if you like it or not," I'd consider that selfish. It shows she doesn't care about my perspective, and with that attitude, she'd be a thing of the past for me—someone else can deal with her spite.
I also think men who find themselves in that situation but lack the backbone to say anything or change things are just total pushovers.
Maybe they just like curvy women, or maybe they accept people for who they are, or maybe looks and sex aren't that big of a deal to them. 😉
You know that old American saying about a pretty girl; "curvy, glowing, and sweet." 😁
You’d probably just walk away from her too if she got caught in an accident and ended up disabled, or maybe if she hit a serious illness. Typical. 😁
Fair enough, you're right about that. But honestly, comments like yours don't belong in a thread about Eating Disorders anyway. It just brings the whole mood down.
Weight control? Honestly, it’s become such a simple, solvable equation for me now that I probably wouldn't even find myself stuck in that mess if I tried. But hey, for the people who are still struggling with it, they know exactly where to find me when they need some advice.
Look, for the millionth time, this isn't about weight control. It’s not like people with Eating Disorders are just fat, stupid, or clueless about what to eat. That's not how this works. This is a mental issue. A psychological one. Period.
From a guy's perspective, there’s this massive hypocrisy floating around with certain women. They claim they want guys who are straightforward and sincere, but the second someone actually gives it to them straight—without all the sugarcoating—suddenly he's being rude or just "too much." Honestly, plenty of them have admitted to me that they actually prefer the flattery, the sweet talk, and the empty promises. They know deep down none of it is true and that nothing is ever going to come from it, but they just enjoy the ride.
Look, you're being way too much. Save those kinds of "honest" posts for a support group—don't go trying to "help" someone struggling with Eating Disorders here. Honestly, you're just doing them more harm than good.
I'm just not going to do it. I refuse to sit there and feed someone some line I don't actually believe just to boost their ego or fix their mood. It’s exhausting. Honestly? Truth is the only real medicine here. Sometimes you just need a little shock therapy to snap things into place.
Your truth isn't my truth. And honestly? You don't argue about truths—just like you don't argue about taste. 😉
Look, just stick to a proper diet and leave the psychology stuff to the actual experts.
I've said my piece. I really hope this whole argument hasn't completely derailed the discussion. 👋