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Richard Walker79 said:I honestly don't know what else to say to you, friend, other than that I don't use any opiates myself. That’s not to say I’m against anyone else's choices, though! Coffee, tobacco, chocolate, sugar—technically, they're all drugs in the most literal sense.🙂
Sophia Parker8 said:The mind might not be the gateway to discovery, but it certainly handles description and classification; without it, you’re just drifting aimlessly like a ship lost at sea.
Granted, the mind isn't the vessel itself—it isn't the captain, the sail, or the hull. But it serves as the compass, the rudder, and the map.Just because you haven't encountered God doesn't mean others haven't; remember, God doesn't intend for Himself to be visible to everyone, revealing His presence only to the few.
And this world isn't his kingdom.
It isn't. Precisely.
Hannah Thompson2 said:Which spiritualists are we even talking about here? Even on this forum, you've got people acting like they're experts when they really aren't—and besides, the mind isn't some window into spirituality.
Just because you haven't personally encountered God doesn't mean others haven't. Remember, God doesn't exactly want to be on display for everyone; He reveals Himself to the few.
And this world? It isn't his kingdom.
Hannah Thompson2 said:I’ve already mentioned that I consider myself a Christian rather than a Catholic—and honestly, I also said there's really no point in us getting into a debate since it feels like a lost cause. For that reason, I'd appreciate it if you didn't quote me; if I don't reply, I don't want anyone thinking I'm just dodging the conversation.
Sophia Parker8 said:Since you tend to be perpetually vague, and I see no point in playing rhetorical games with you, I’ll just be blunt:
it’s become quite trendy lately to claim the external world is merely a projection of the mind, the spirit, or whatever other concept one prefers to use...
while treating God as this ultimate, objective reality.
In truth, it's the exact opposite. The world is what it is, whereas we're the ones who invented God.
Sophia Parker8 said:One's internal perception of the world isn't the world, either.
The only thing that truly exists as an internal construct is Bog.
steeleagle13 said:I'm not even going to bother arguing with him🙄
Sophia Parker8 said:The Madman gave you a pretty solid response. Spiritualists love to insist that everything we perceive is just a byproduct of internal vision—of the mind. Yet, there is no mental construct more plausible than God himself, considering He doesn't actually exist within the physical world.
driftingraven122 said:Of course there's no way to argue this—it’s impossible. You can't even begin to argue whether the "ordinary" things surrounding us possess some sort of "objective existence" on their own, let alone a concept like Blue Moon. It’s all just empty rhetoric, I guess. 😉
Hannah Thompson2 said:But where's the actual reasoning behind this:
"God is one of those rare entities that doesn't exist objectively on its own, but is instead just a product of the mind's imagination."?
Are you seriously claiming I'm the one who made it all up?
William Reed said:So, if God is available to absolutely everyone—which, yeah, He is—and if you have to seek Him out in the right place, which can't be anywhere outside of yourself, then where exactly do you get off deciding what someone else is allowed to say or not say while they're searching?
Of course you can't hide Him from anyone. You can only hide Him from yourself.
It feels to me like maybe you've just memorized these whole bunch of clichés—you know, God is the source of life, justice, love, blah blah blah—but it doesn't seem like you actually grasp what any of that means. And I think Sean Martinez4 was onto something; you've basically grabbed authority for the truth instead of letting the truth be your authority, and now you're trying to push that on everyone else. You don't really get it, and I guess that's why you feel insulted.
It insults you because the idea that "your" God is accessible to everyone is offensive, right? It hurts to think you aren't part of some special chosen group, or more valuable than others, or closer to Him than the next guy—that you aren't all that different from everyone else. The truth that God in you is the same God in someone else bothers you. Why is that? God is love, selfless love.
The doors to God's kingdom swing open the second you accept that you are in God and God is in you. There isn't some massive, complex wisdom to it. That's just what resurrection is.
steeleagle13 said:My goal isn't to offend you😉
The point is—I'm just as much a god as you are.😉
William Reed said:honestly, it’s both—it’s all just living inside your own head, I guess.
Hannah Thompson2 said:I’m not calling anyone out just for bringing up God—it’s when they disrespect Him that I speak up, because frankly, that offends me too.
God is available to everyone; you just have to look for Him in the right way and the right place. There's no way for me to keep Him hidden from anyone.
God is the source of life, truth, justice, and love—He is our Heavenly Father. His kingdom is where those who belong to Him go after their time on this earth is done, while those who don't belong will be cast aside to face the father of lies.
Hannah Thompson2 said:I’m not calling anyone out just for bringing up God—it’s when they disrespect Him that I speak up, because frankly, that offends me too.
God is available to everyone; you just have to look for Him in the right way and the right place. There's no way for me to keep Him hidden from anyone.
God is the source of life, truth, justice, and love—He is our Heavenly Father. His kingdom is where those who belong to Him go after their time on this earth is done, while those who don't belong will be cast aside to face the father of lies.
Gerald Massey said:"They must find it difficult...
Those who have taken authority as the truth,
rather than truth as the authority."
Hannah Thompson2 said:Since when does being "Zen" give you a free pass to be insulting?
I'm not Catholic, just a Christian.
Sophia Parker8 said:God always has people on hand to defend His reputation. The truth is, God is one of those rare entities that doesn't exist objectively, but rather serves as a product of the human imagination.
William Reed said:But why not, though? I mean, what even is God if not that? Is He just some unreachable, perfect ideal that’s only allowed to be mentioned by these terrified, self-proclaimed 'believers'? Honestly, what does God even mean to you? Why do you think you get to act all jealous and gatekeep Him from everyone else, like you have some divine right to stop people from speaking His name, or hanging out with Him, or even trying to see themselves in Him? Like, where do you get off thinking you own that kind of authority?