Posts by Adam Ross4

Adam Ross4 said:3. the claim that "important" things are happening at extremely high cosmic levels😬 🤣

It’s a classic setup for dependency. Once people buy into that rhetoric, they start viewing the teacher as an untouchable authority—someone who supposedly possesses exclusive access to the highest planes of existence. Naturally, you're expected to follow their lead blindly because, well, they're the only ones with the "cosmic insight," right? 🙄

Plain and simple manipulation. ☕

Usually, this line of thinking goes hand-in-hand with dismissing a student's own spiritual experiences as nothing more than cheap illusions.

Even if we grant the premise that such cosmic levels exist and someone actually knows about them—why would anyone truly looking out for their followers bother bringing it up? It serves no purpose other than to cause harm.

Adam Ross4 said:2. leveraging the concept of absolute "divine" determinism to serve mundane goals

It’s incredibly transparent. Problems arise within some religious organization—or whatever they call themselves—and suddenly, everyone starts hiding behind determinism. It's the perfect shield. If I, acting as a predestined spiritual leader, happen to screw up, it doesn't matter. Everything is just part of a higher plan. According to them, nothing can actually be bad if it was all predetermined to work out for the followers in the end. A convenient way to dodge accountability, wouldn't you say? 🙄

Adam Ross4 said:1. claims of being superior to all other spiritual practices and teachings

It’s just basic marketing. A classic tactic to reel in new "customers" and—more importantly—to keep the ones who've already bitten. If you buy into the hype, you stay loyal to the "product." Even better? You become an unpaid spokesperson spreading the word.

Even if we pretend that claim is actually true, it makes zero sense. Why would someone possessing a "superior" spiritual practice feel the need to pitch it like a late-night infomercial? It screams "sales pitch" to me. And if this practice is truly that effective, why does it even need the advertisement?

The whole thing gets ridiculous when you pair it with that idea of determinism—the notion that "it is my destiny to spread the single best and most spiritual practice in the universe." Naturally, if it’s predestined, then every other teaching is just noise that needs to be ignored🙄

... or, in the worst-case scenario, wiped off the face of the earth.🙄

If it’s all meant to be, why bother with the marketing? 🙄

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Miller said:I am The Avatar, a divine manifestation, the greatest in history—a mega-hyper-perfect avatar. I don't simply succeed or fail; there are no excuses here. Every word, every movement, every glance or gesture is heavy with mystical, incomprehensible meanings and secrets on vast cosmic levels. After many years and lifetimes, you will only begin to grasp a fraction of the significance of my presence. You aren't even aware of the grace you receive just by having me exist within this material universe. 🧐
And whatever I do is always perfect; it’s merely your own cognitive deficiency that causes you to misunderstand or judge things through your pedestrian human logic. 🙂

1. Claims of superiority over all other spiritual practices and teachings.
2. Using sweeping "divine" determinism to serve rather mundane goals.
3. Asserting that all "important" events occur at exceptionally high universal levels. 😬 🤣
4. Karma theory—specifically, the "cause and effect" doctrine used to immediately dismiss imperfect human logic and perception... which these so-called "spiritual" teachers then use to claim their own superiority and enlightenment, as if they alone hold the keys to the entire karma of the human race. 🙄

I know we've touched on this before, but a quick refresher doesn't hurt... 😈
Anything else to add? 😁

bluemason3 said:I suppose you meant the word itself isn't any less spiritual 🙂

Yeah, that's exactly what I was getting at... 😬

Are we just living through one continuous spiritual experience that's constantly reshaping who we are? ... 😉
Brewing a cup of coffee isn't any more "spiritual" than those vague memories some people claim to have about past lives ... 😁

matter ☕

frozenangler9 said:If opposites exist, then the more I learn about A, the more I inevitably understand its opposite, non-A. 😍

spiritual logic 😍
The reasoning is flawed. To truly grasp a negation, you'd need total mastery over set A
but we barely know anything at all, if anything at all. 😉

Adam Lewis23 said:I used to be the vocalist😢 nobody even mentions me anymore😢😢

😢

Which former singer...? I think there were a few of you🤔 ... what was your name again?🤔

Found a new band yet...😁

category said:Can someone actually reach the level of naturally gifted people through nothing but practice? I'm talking about specific talents, like singing or acting. Is that stuff strictly hardwired in your DNA, or can a person fight their way to those same heights regardless?
There are things everyone *should* be able to achieve with enough work, yet hardly anyone does. Does that count as talent, or is it just something else entirely?
Try to wrap your heads around this and give me your take.

The OP seems a bit obsessed with success... 😁
So, the answer is NO. ...
You simply can't out-practice pure, raw talent. ... 😁

CoastlineRunner said:But W H Y?

Why? Talent, obviously... 😁

Actually, I think the initial question was framed entirely wrong... 🙄

lonegardener said:Success. That’s the thing you’ve been fed by Hollywood movies since you were a kid. I find it hard to believe we aren't actually on the same page here. By that definition, success is about proving something to everyone else, not yourself—even though you insist you're doing it for yourself (you say it loud enough for the whole world to hear, just to complete the paradox xexexe). A vanity project, if you will.

We understand each other perfectly... 😉
I know what success is... a hollow derivative of pop culture 🙄... but my point is this: if the very concept of "success" enters the equation, true art (or any pursuit requiring actual talent) becomes impossible.

As for that "vanity project" comment 👍...

oceanic said:If training is just a tool to grab success, then I’m completely out.

Honestly, success itself is pretty questionable... 😁
I mean... what does "succeeding" even actually mean? 🤔

When you look at art and talent, obviously...

The Atlantic. said:To practice a talent is to actually live it—to find joy in the self-expression. 😉

But let's be honest... it’s all just an exercise.
Say, you dive into philosophy, and you just keep getting better and better at it... 😉

ocean breeze said:😕 😕 😕

But you actually said this:

If "being better" means sacrifice and practice...
if "self-fulfillment" means honing a talent...

Then I’d argue: why can't sacrifice and practice be part of that fulfillment?

Because they are... 😁

Even when you're practicing a talent, you're still practicing...
So it isn't talent versus practice. It's talent *and* practice.

😕

What would you even say? ... 😬
Please. You're clearly a former Rhesus Factor vocalist ... 🤣

Ryan James3 said:It’s wild to think I actually played in the early stages of that band. 😬
Back then, we were under the banner of Luther 😵—the group that eventually split apart to form Rhesus Factor, which then gave rise to Jesus Christ.

Honestly, why am I even bringing this up? 🙈

So, who else was in that Luther lineup...
and what instrument were you playing? Maybe our paths crossed. 😉

stormywolf39 said:Man's just telling the truth, what can you do? 😬

They aren't bad people... 😬
just a little particular... 😬

Roger Jones5 said:... and let's face it, the local community college is basically a breeding ground for terrible vocalists ...

🙂

Roger Jones5 said:😲
Back then, they were just some nu-metal clones fronted by one of the most grating vocalists in the entire state. Honestly, that county has always been a breeding ground for terrible singers.
They’re easily one of the best metal bands on this side of the Atlantic. And that vocalist? Easily one of the best around.

Good grief, people... what a circus.😎

Heh... you mean Lean. 😁
Yeah, he was a real pain... but honestly, they fit together perfectly back then. 🤔 😬

Maybe they just haven't warmed up to the new vocalist yet...
It’s a fact... they really are one of the best bands around. 👍

itakoto said:they didn't have a vocalist before this, and even when they did, they weren't called Jesus Christ and there wasn't much overlap with their current sound.

They actually had a vocalist back when they were performing as Rhesus Factor... 😁
I personally preferred them then... 🥳

Personally, I hear quite a lot of similarities... 😉