Posts by Timothy Nelson5

Scott Jones4 said:I’m pretty sure everyone out here slamming Sweden's immigration policy has a rock-solid backup plan for how to actually fund social security and pensions.

Check it out, here's the "alternative" approach they're taking over in Denmark:

Look, the video is hilarious, no doubt, but I was hoping for something a little more substantial from you guys. If you’ve got enough energy to tear down migration policies, you should have just as much juice to come up with actual solutions.

And just so we're clear—not that I'm claiming to be some expert here—the core issue is still whatever's happening in the places people are fleeing from, whether it's Somalia or somewhere like Mexico.

And why shouldn't we be allowed to talk about this?

For starters, just give me the actual numbers—how many people from this recent wave of non-European immigrants have actually landed jobs?

How is bringing millions of people onto social welfare supposed to sustain a retirement fund?
It might just accelerate its destruction instead, which... if I'm not mistaken... is exactly what's already happening over in Sweden.

restlesshound26 said:It’s almost certainly organized crime, which explains why they haven't released any identifying details about the suspect—all we know is his name is Olaf and he has blue eyes...

Supposedly an Uzbek.
Four dead, and they're saying about fifteen people were seriously injured... some of them even had limbs amputated.

Reports coming in about a terrorist attack in Sweden just a half hour ago:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...-crowds-sweden

Apparently, some terrorist used a truck to plow into people in a pedestrian zone. There are multiple injuries reported, and I guess they're saying there might be three dead so far.

The Swedish utopia is slowly, inevitably, sliding toward an unavoidable collapse:
http://www.dn.se/nyheter/sverige/vi-...verige-gjorde/

The Hultsfred municipality is basically staring down bankruptcy, all because of the massive influx of immigrants.
Because of this overwhelming wave of newcomers, the local government was forced to freeze financial aid, meaning immigrants won't see any payouts for at least the next six months.
Hultsfred happens to be one of those municipalities that took in a disproportionately high number of immigrants.
Toward the end of last year, it turned out the reception centers were completely maxed out, so they’ve just started shutting them down to anyone new arriving.
They’ve even scrapped social benefits for immigrants in a somewhat desperate attempt to discourage people from coming. I guess they’re even sending letters to those still hoping to move there, basically telling them they aren't welcome.

Located in what used to be the idyllic region of Småland, the Hultsfred municipality has about 14,000 residents, with roughly 5,000 living in the town of Hultsfred itself.
But with this invasion of immigrants hitting an ultra-liberal area, over 2,000 have moved in, plus another 1,300 are currently staying in the Immigration Bureau reception centers within the municipality.

http://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/fa...-vaxande-grupp

The staggering costs of managing these immigrant populations are starting to bleed into the care provided for Swedish retirees.
Back in 2015, it was already being reported that 225,000 Swedish retirees—the very people who built this country and created the prosperity the new generation enjoys—are actually living below the poverty line in Europe.

http://www.hd.se/2011-01-10/polisrea...ktingars-resor

The Border Patrol over in Skåne has been reacting to these frequent flights carrying Iraqi people back to their home country. It seems these immigrants were granted permanent residency here based on security concerns—basically, the claim that they’d face serious danger if they returned to Iraq.
So, the police have actually sent an appeal to the Immigration Bureau, asking them to re-examine these residency permits along with those supposed risks facing them in Iraq.
Every single week, there are six full flights departing from Malmö airport headed straight for Iraq. Most of the passengers are Iraqi people who were given permanent status in Sweden because of the alleged risk of being imprisoned, tortured, or killed back home..

So, let me get this straight... migrants who are granted asylum and permanent residency because their lives are supposedly in danger in their homeland—are just hopping on planes to visit that very same homeland...?

I guess you have to ask, who exactly is being made to look like a fool in this scenario?

David Vaughn75 said:Maybe try actually quoting me correctly before you even think about opening your mouth, because I’m not wasting my breath responding to straight-up lies.

And honestly? Why don't *you* head off to Kazakhstan? Check out this guy—acting like some big shot trying to exile me from my own damn country just because he doesn't like what I posted.

Well, you went ahead and wrote—conservatives don't want this, or that...
The logical leap there is that since you're a leftist, you apparently want all of it.
Is that a yes or a no?

Quincy:

Why don't you just pack up and move to Uzbekistan then? Look at this guy, trying to kick me out of my own country just because he doesn't like what I posted.

I'm not kicking anyone out.
It's more of a suggestion, I guess.
Actually, you seem to be the one trying to force everyone else to accept things they shouldn't have to in their own homes.
So, the suggestion carries some weight... if you hate American culture and traditions so much that you want to dismantle them and replace them with something else—well, why not just go somewhere where that "something else" is already the norm?
Seems pretty logical to me, anyway.

But whatever, this is getting off track.

David Vaughn75 said:Quincy:

I can't believe I'm even typing this out—it’s like my brain is actually melting from the sheer absurdity of it all. Honestly, if you had told me a few years ago that we'd be sitting here, staring at this absolute train wreck of a situation, I would have laughed right in your face. But here we are. It’s just one thing after another, isn't it? Just a constant, relentless stream of "are you kidding me?" moments that leave you feeling totally drained. I was grabbing a coffee over in Chicago the other day—just trying to have a quiet morning, mind you—and I overheard some guy complaining about the exact same nonsense we've been dealing with. It’s everywhere. It feels like the whole country is just collectively losing its mind, and nobody's even trying to fix the mess anymore. They just shuffle the deck chairs while the ship is clearly taking on water. It's exhausting, man. Truly exhausting. You start to wonder if anyone is actually steering the wheel or if we're all just drifting toward the rocks at full speed. Anyway, rant over. I just needed to get that off my chest before I lost it completely. kaže: Look, let’s be real here—you aren't actually looking for a debate, you're just trying to shove your own worldview down everyone's throats. It’s pretty transparent. If you actually stepped back and looked at the facts, you'd see that most Muslim-majority nations don't even have legal recognition for gay marriage, let alone any actual protections for the LGBTQ+ community, atheists, or religious minorities. And don't even get me started on the status of women in those societies—it's a whole different conversation entirely. You can't just claim a moral high ground when the reality on the ground is so drastically different from what you're preaching. So you think these newcomers are just gonna show up and start demanding we live by their playbook? You’re convinced that birth rates are the whole damn game, right? And yet, here you are, still patting yourselves on the back, calling yourselves "progressive" or "tolerant"—if that kind of self-congratulatory nonsense actually makes you feel better about the mess we're in.

Look, I’ve said this a thousand times and I'll say it again—I don't give a damn what anyone's religious lifestyle looks like, as long as they aren't breaking the law. Honestly, if people want to live their lives according to their own faith, that's their business. I'm not about to sit here and try to dictate how Muslims, or anyone else for that matter, should act in their private time. As long as they're following the rules of the land and staying on the right side of the law, we're good. It’s really that simple—live your life, just don't break the law.
It’s honestly hilarious watching the right-wing crowd try to play both sides of the fence. They go on these massive crusades about how women shouldn't wear burkas, yet they’re the first ones screaming about birth rates and wanting people to stop having so many kids. It's such a blatant contradiction—they want to control everything, but they can't even get their own logic straight. Then you've got them acting all high and mighty about "traditional values," while simultaneously being totally fine with some white guy collecting welfare checks, but the second a Muslim man applies for the same thing, suddenly it's an absolute crisis. They don't actually care about the policy or the money; they just want to force their specific version of the American lifestyle onto everyone else. It's all just a way to push their own agenda under the guise of "culture."

Look, what you’re doing right there is textbook projection—classic psych 101 stuff. You’re basically just taking all those traits you've got yourself and slapping them onto everyone else to avoid looking in the mirror. It's a total deflection tactic, honestly.

Honestly, I couldn't care less about what's going on in Uzbekistan—I live in the States now, so that's just not my problem.

Forgive me if this sounds blunt...
If you're so unhappy with how things work here, and you'd much rather see women in burkas, massive families, and arranged marriages... well, why not just move to Uzbekistan?
I suppose I don't quite get why everyone else needs to bend to your preferences just so you can feel comfortable.

David Vaughn75 said:The way the right wing tries to defend fascists is honestly stomach-turning.

They hate the left so much—I mean, they absolutely loathe anyone with even a hint of progressive leanings—that they’d probably roll out the red carpet for Hitler himself just to make sure the left doesn't hold onto power.

Did some fascist actually run in the elections over in the United States of America?
As far as I know, those types aren't even allowed to participate there.
🤔

Christian Myers said:Congrats to Joe Biden. Though, let's be honest—he definitely got a leg up thanks to the massive media coverage and the constant bashing of Donald Trump. If I remember correctly, the President of Austria is kind of like the President of Germany or the US—mostly just a figurehead. The real deal will be the 2018 midterm elections, where the Democratic Party might actually see some solid gains. It’s hard to call, though—everything depends on how this whole immigrant crisis plays out, which seems to be a huge reason why the right wing (including the extreme stuff) is gaining ground across Europe.

Well, yeah. Of course the ideologically biased media played a massive role here. And you can't ignore the fact that Austria still carries some heavy baggage from the Waldheim era... so I guess many people just saw voting for VdB as the pragmatic choice.

The 2018 midterm elections will be more critical, especially if the Libertarian Party manages to pull off a decent showing. It's hard to say, though, since we don't really know how the immigration crisis—which is a huge driver for the rise of right-wing movements across Europe—is going to play out.

Still, this feels like a major win for the Libertarian Party.
I mean, VdB was basically an independent candidate backed by almost everyone else—the political establishment, the media, the institutions, the entire European Union bureaucracy...
The outcome serves as a constant reminder to everyone in Austria that they probably need to rethink their irrational pro-integration and pro-immigration policies, which several parties have already openly declared.

Plus, following that referendum in Italy, the whole direction of European policy seems pretty questionable now.

ironhound7 said:Um... yeah... I know, I'm doing it again. I'm correcting you.

But if we're talking about someone who might actually mess things up the way Hollande did, you'd have to look at this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_President_of_Austria)

See, Van der Bellen is more like the German president, Joachim Gauck—he’s basically just the guy who gets to read the script they put in front of him to the public, almost like the Queen of the United Kingdom.

You aren't correcting me, because I already mentioned that the Austrian president holds powers very similar to those of the President of the United States.

Van der Bellen, much like the German president Joachim Gauck, is more of a figurehead who just reads whatever script is handed to him, sort of like the Queen of the United Kingdom.

That isn't really true, though.
If you look into it a bit, you'll find that the president actually has significant authority.
Maybe not nearly as much as the Prime Minister, but still substantial.

How much a certain president might abuse those powers, well, that depends on the individual, I guess, and also on the state of the country. If there's a strong government and a Prime Minister with a solid majority in Congress, then the president's role won't be particularly powerful. But in the case of a weak, unstable coalition or a minority government—or during some kind of political crisis—the president's role becomes quite important.

Congrats to Joe Biden!

Carol Newman2 said:The parliamentary elections aren't for another two years. Personally, I don't think the Freedom Party of Austria will take power then either. I see the Social Democratic Party of Austria, the Austrian People's Party, and the Greens forming the next Government. That is, unless the Austrian People's Party tries to cut a deal with the Freedom Party of Austria on the condition that Heinz-Christian Strache doesn't become Chancellor.

A lot can shift in two years, I suppose.
The President's role here is pretty much like it is back home, which is to say... not much influence over domestic policy, really.
But even now, during this election, I think Joe Biden mentioned something along the lines of looking out for the interests of Americans... it seems like the whole open-door migrant policy isn't the top priority anymore.
Anyway, just the fact that the two main parties didn't even field candidates for the runoff tells you everything you need to know about how the establishment is crumbling.

And if Bellen ends up messing things up like François Hollande did, we might see an FPOE candidate and someone even further to the right facing off in the next presidential runoff...

Nicholas Nguyen said:I recall about two years back when the Swedish military had to lean on Norway or Finland for search and rescue operations because they were short on helicopter pilots.
Specifically, they needed female pilots because they couldn't hire men due to gender quotas.
There were plenty of articles covering this, and I know it was discussed on this forum too, but I'm having trouble digging up the specific threads right now.

So, where are all those women they hired now, anyway?

ironhound7 said:Man, you are dead wrong. That was ages ago. When people think of a Green voter, they think of a well-off, carefree doctor. Someone who cares deeply about whether his house has top-tier eco-friendly insulation. He hates gas cars—he’d ban them tomorrow if he could. You have to admit, thanks to the Greens, we have all these laws that basically squeeze the working class. Fuel and electricity prices have skyrocketed because of them.

Look at the stats from Germany, for instance:

Green supporters under age 35 were at 80% back in 1980. Now? It's dropped to about 10%. Their biggest voting bloc is now the 51 to 60-year-olds, followed by the 41 to 50 crowd. And their female voter turnout is huge. On top of that, they’re the most educated segment of society and earn well above average. You could say Green voters, along with the Democratic Party lot, belong to the wealthiest tier—though the Greens are definitely the most educated (I'm agreeing with @arizin here: being educated doesn't mean they're actually intelligent).

http://www.bpb.de/politik/grundfrage...-waehlerschaft

https://www.bpb.de/politik/grundfrag...setzung-gruene

You'll find losers among radical leftists or, if you want to call them that, failed right-wingers. But you won't find them among the Greens.

Fine, whatever.
But we aren't talking about parliamentary elections here; this is the presidential runoff.
It’s pretty straightforward—people to the right of center are voting for Hofer, while those on the left side vote for Bellen.
The Greens themselves are just a small minority now, I guess.
So, when looking at this mail-in voting, you really have to view it through that specific lens.

coastalbison6 said:Man, what a joke. 🤦
Just proves my point about the right wing. 😁

Historically, looking at all the elections over the last 30 years, the mail-in votes follow a set pattern: Green - Democrat - Republican - Libertarian. It’s always been that way and it’ll stay that way.
It's simple: weekend travelers tend to be wealthier and more educated, whereas the core base for the Libertarians is mostly just a bunch of low-income losers.

Since you're laying it out that way, I guess I could make my own assumption: maybe there's an established tradition of the Greens and the leftists rigging things through mail-in voting too?
🤣

The Greens aren't really an older demographic; they're younger, and frankly, they seem to lack the moral integrity found in other parties. It feels more like a collection of transients and pseudo-intellectual trash than a group of successful, established professionals... if you want to call them "educated," it's probably just an illusion based on degrees from various social science programs focused on quasi-scientific, bullshit ideologies...
And by what logic would they be the ones spending weekends at vacation homes? They're usually just hanging out in their parents' apartments while the parents are away at the cottage.

I think we both know that my take here is probably closer to the truth than your idea that Libertarian voters are just a bunch of dim-witted rednecks yodeling in the mountains...

@arizin
signed, your post

lonetrucker4 said:Real talk: there’s zero proof of that. A 2-3% margin is just standard math.

Quincy:

And it wasn't even a win for Joe Biden—the whole election was tossed out because the fraud was everywhere.

Total nonsense. No fraud happened, and any hiccups didn't change the outcome. Even those Trumpian types were cutting corners at the polling stations. Just read the pages I posted earlier.

Well, I suppose the sample sizes are relatively small. But if we're looking at a gap like 53% versus 47%, that's a 6% difference. That feels like way too much for a serious poll, especially if people are only choosing between two candidates.

What I was trying to get at is how these kinds of polls can swing voters both ways. If a candidate takes the lead in a poll right before an election, it might make their supporters feel like they don't even need to show up, while simultaneously giving the other side that extra push to actually head to the polls.
It’s not exactly a harmless phenomenon, I guess.

There wasn't any fraud. Irregularities didn't sway the outcome. Besides, Hofer's supporters in the polling stations were just as involved in those irregularities. There are plenty of pages covering that earlier in this thread.

From what I understand, the final results were flipped by the mail-in ballots, which seemed to lean disproportionately toward Bellen. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Robert Clark4 said:Anti-Trump slogan at anti-Hofer protest in Vienna

I mean, they've still got some leftover props from Hillary's camp lying around, so I guess they might as well make good use of them before tossing them in the trash! ☕

It’s actually quite something how they remind everyone that even in the "world's leading superpower," a guy who was branded a racist—just like Norbert Hofer—actually won...
And maybe, just maybe, it serves as a reminder that people shouldn't be so afraid of being labeled if they want to vote their conscience...

lonetrucker4 said:I'm saving the deep dive on the polls for its own thread, so I won't get bogged down here—except for one thing: a 2-3% margin is always a coin toss, even if the poll dropped yesterday. Polls have built-in limits, and trying to use them to predict the future is just asking for trouble.

Last time, right before the runoff, the final polls had Donald Trump leading with 52.3% and 53.0%. Then Joe Biden walked away with the win.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinio...election,_2016

Now we’ve got a split, sitting at 51-52% for either side. We'll see how it plays out. A "Moderate Republican" surge could swing things toward Donald Trump, while a last-minute mobilization might favor Joe Biden—though that second part probably only happened once.

It really makes you wonder, I suppose, just how much these polls are being used to mess with people's heads.

And honestly, it wasn't even that Joe Biden won; the whole thing was basically tossed out because the fraud was just too blatant to ignore.

It’s split down the middle now, maybe 51-52% for one side or the other. We'll just have to wait and see how it plays out. That "Moderate Republican" effect might swing things toward Donald Trump, or maybe a last-minute surge in turnout could help Joe Biden—though, if I recall, that's probably what happened last time.

I don't doubt for a second that Soros's globalist crowd isn't pouring millions into this to win at least this one fight, since these elections are basically a test run for what's coming in 2017. (Think Netherlands, France, Germany).

All these upcoming elections will ultimately decide whether Europe bows down to this bureaucratic, centralized takeover, or if it actually goes back to the original idea—you know, a community of independent nations that just happen to share interests and want to work together closely.

Carol Newman2 said:The presidential election is coming up this Sunday.

http://www.salzburg.com/download/2016-11/AGD0001.jpg

According to the latest polls, we should probably brace ourselves for another razor-thin margin.

Just another trial run for the pre-election polling numbers.

Gerald Palmer66 said:But why shouldn't he?
Perhaps he might stumble upon a job opportunity along the way, which would end up being a win for both his own wallet and the Austrian economy.

If Vienna can manage an influx of 100,000 economic migrants whose identities and backgrounds remain largely a mystery to them, then I fail to see why a single American carrying a wallet that clearly identifies who they are should be any different.

But you just don't get it, do you?
The most important thing, apparently, is fostering this whole idea of diversity.

An American, a Canadian, or maybe someone from Mexico—they aren't really all that different from a typical person in the United States. They share a similar cultural sphere, similar religious roots, roughly the same educational standards... when I'm walking around New York, nobody can even tell I'm not a local unless I decide to strike up some long, drawn-out conversation...
That isn't "diversity," though. That’s not what the globalists are looking for.
No, they want to push variety because that's what's considered "in" and "fancy" these days...
They want to import Syrians, Afghans, Somalis... people who supposedly "enrich" society through their unique cultures, levels of education, and customs.

And Hofer is standing against that.
So, I suppose one should vote for the other guy.

lonebadger6 said:Absolutely. Speaking of "experiments," here's one from Cleveland today:

And then there was that incident last week with those convicted rapists in San Diego, dragging a minor across a crowded beach while she was screaming her head off...

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. I've lost count of how many times I've seen journalists lie or twist the truth during incidents like these.

If one were to actually go looking for facts—which is a tall order—it would probably turn out the attacker in that first case fled only because an early morning passerby actually paid attention to what was happening. And in the second case, maybe it's just the typical daily scenes at a beach where drunk teenagers run wild and nobody bothers to react.
I should clarify that I don't know anything about these specific cases, and I'm not trying to prejudge what really went down.
It's just that I've witnessed firsthand, even in situations close to me, how nauseatingly non-objective the media can be.

Then you have the comments on that article—people get penalized just for speaking up!
It feels like the police are just protecting the delinquents and criminals.

But I guess it isn't like that everywhere. Take this example from the north, from a certain "backward" part of Russia:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/re...-next-morning/

Rape attackers, following the pattern of attacks in Cologne, started targeting women, but the men there (of which there apparently still are some in Russia) decided to teach them a lesson.
Actually, it gets better. When the police arrived and heard what happened, they ended up being the ones to toss the thugs around before hauling them off to jail or the hospital. Only the hooligans ended up getting cited for fighting.

I guess in Russia, men are still men, and the cops can tell the difference between a thug and a citizen trying to maintain order.