Oštrić - Persecution and Banning
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lonetrucker4 said:I can't speak for the other subforums, really, but looking at History... I guess that whole petition campaign from the last few months has actually managed to stir things up a bit. Activity's definitely seeing an uptick there, maybe.
Some people just don't want to write anymore. Others... well, they can't, I suppose, because of those partial or total permanent bans. As for the quality of the discourse? I don't think we've actually lost anything. It’s really just a matter of certain users being unable—or perhaps unwilling—to meet the standards here. Most of them seem to share the same ideological bent anyway.
There are some pretty interesting discussions happening lately. As a moderator, I don't just go around handing out bans and red cards, you know? I try to do more than that.
So, there’s this younger guy on the forum who started a whole separate thread about Jimmy Ligett—that boxer and coach who was living in a major US city back in the early 1930s. Word is, he served as a trainer and selector for the boxing team during the era of Nazi Germany, though I say "word is" because, frankly, primary sources on the matter are nonexistent. Initially, I just lumped this under that older, broader discussion regarding the US during World War II, since Ligett had popped up in those circles about ten years ago. But eventually, I decided to pull it out into its own dedicated topic. I spent some time digging through the internet to try and piece together more details for a longer post. Apparently, there’s even a movie in the works about him. The thing is, actual, verifiable evidence regarding his activities during the Nazi Germany period is conspicuously missing. It’s just... not there. I guess I’m hoping that by putting this out there, someone might actually feel compelled to dig deeper—maybe head into the archives or track down some real, raw historical material. Maybe.
The History subforum exists for one reason: so we can help each other actually grasp what happened in the past. It’s meant to be a space where we push one another to sharpen our understanding and keep digging deeper into the facts. I guess that's the idea, anyway.
That random tangent about Owens, Hitler, and Roosevelt doesn't really add anything to the actual discussion here. It feels like typical trolling, I guess.
If someone tries to claim that Nazi Germany wasn't a racist state just because he was Black, I guess they're either being incredibly dense or they’re just trolling at this point. It feels like pure provocation, honestly. We already know the facts: they adopted those same segregationist laws straight from Germany. It's pretty straightforward, really.
You don't need to justify yourself to me, and you certainly don't need to try and push me back. I have no intention of retreating into the past.
I’m only posting this because I got a notification about it, mostly because I just don't have the energy to get into another heated argument with you over that other toxic mess—you know, the whole Greta situation. Honestly, I already caught a ban over there for a post I actually would’ve been proud to see printed in the New York Times. And the moderator? Well, they did their usual thing, banning me and then scrubbing the post entirely so nobody can see the kind of stuff that actually gets people kicked off a forum like this.
Don't get me wrong, I’d probably love to jump into the fray over there too, but... honestly? When I never know if I'm going to end up getting banned and having my posts wiped clean... I guess I just won't bother writing.
And I'm surely not the only one who feels that way.
I mean, I guess you have to admit that having decent moderation is really what keeps these discussions from turning into a total circus. Without it, the whole thing would just be swallowed up by spammers, trolls, people hurling insults, the hysterics, and those propaganda machines... it would just drown out any actual conversation. It’s the only thing keeping the noise at bay, I suppose.
Just... don't make me laugh, please. I really can't deal with that right now.
It seems like cancel culture is really picking up steam lately, hitting just about every topic you can think of. It’s everywhere, I guess.
Sometimes, I feel like certain mods actually turn a blind eye to—or even worse, practically encourage—the whole verbal lynching thing online. It’s basically digital trampling on anyone who dares to hold a different opinion. And if people actually decide to push back? Well, they just end up getting banned. I guess that's just how the power dynamic works these days.
So, I actually stepped away from this forum for nearly two months or so about a year ago. Between that whole fake pandemic nonsense and just having basically zero social life left... well, here I am. I've come back. I suppose a lot of others are probably hanging around here for the exact same reasons. I guess this place has been lucky that no real competition has popped up to challenge us, though I wonder how things would even function if they had. And honestly, I can't help but wonder what the traffic is going to look like once this fake epidemic finally blows over.