steelseal10 said:Fair enough, reality check accepted. 😉 I’m talking about stuff I actually lived through, not some hearsay bullshit. Everyone faces losses, retreats, or just plays it safe sometimes. That's why I brought up those specific situations—mostly because some of your guys started bringing up how you guys would've swarmed us with twice the numbers, using bats and whatnot... Plus, I still remember getting my head cracked open by a rock in a Small town in the US right before the game against the Mississippi River crew. Cheers.
Look, I only jumped in because your message implied we were just gonna run away because you had way more people or whatever... but back in Turkey, we only had about four more than you guys. You got caught waiting at that forest roundabout—we were geared up to the teeth, and when things popped off out of nowhere while stepping out of the cars, there wasn't much room for maneuvering... So yeah, don't go bringing up Turkey to claim "you guys would've outnumbered us two-to-one."
Paul Sanchez15 said:So you actually think this was a win for the lefties? Honestly, if someone told me a few years back that the right-wingers would even bother showing up in decent numbers, I’d have called them crazy—back then, everyone just ran for the exits or stayed home in small groups. Just look at what happened over in Turkey...
Turkey? It was like 10 or 11 of us against 15 of yours. You guys were decked out with meter-long batons and an entire squad holding the line 50 against 1000 of us up near Yankee Stadium about a year ago. We were just a bunch of guys who mostly hung out together that one time—half of them weren't even seen in the stands before or after that whole thing in Turkey. It sounds like a lame excuse, I get it, but that’s literally how it went down...
No argument there, we took the L back then. But given the circumstances, we probably wouldn't have fared much better even against a weaker version of your top-tier crew from that era.
wearyraven25 said:Look, I know the deal—that’s why I’m saying it. We were already talking about this back when Locomotion was the main topic. Back then, all the groups should've stood together to demand personalized ticketing instead of letting these illegal blacklists run wild, but whatever... The whole supporter culture here is just bottom-tier right now. It’s probably too late for anything to change. Vouchers are basically useless since you still need an ID to buy tickets anyway. 😕
I guess it’s too little, too late for certain things (though I'm sure people will start whining about "fairness" once they get what they want)—the scene is just too small and disorganized. You've got one group actually holding it down (Torca), one group that's completely fallen apart (Bad Boys), and a third one I won't even bother mentioning because they aren't worth the breath ("we're alone against everyone," right?), and everything else? Practically non-existent...
True, though I guess the real question is how much of this media speculation actually holds water—but even if they aren't right about everything, things have definitely gone way too far lately.. wearyraven25: Last December, I didn't show an ID for either derby in Chicago. I made it into the first one, couldn't get into the second... and honestly, I'm doing the exact same thing on 11/22. If they don't let me through without an ID, I’m just turning around and heading home...
Some low-life, bottom-of-the-barrel crowd calling themselves Americans is probably gonna cheer this latest decision from the league commissioner—since apparently "trash" doesn't belong in the stands anymore... I mean, what can you even say about that?
Kimberly Clark54 said:That moment when they start whining over on the Bad Boys subforum just because Armin got locked out...😂
What a lovely day... Coffee in hand while I read through these jealous, bitter posts..
Anyway... respect to the boys. Didn't catch it live, but looks like the mercenaries were the first to throw shade at you guys? Guess they feel pretty brave now that there's a fence separating them.
Here's some pure jealousy over your supposed "successes"—honestly, I actually pity you guys. For real though, in some ways you used to be unique on these boards, and that whole "us against the world" thing actually meant something once... but today? You've become a total joke and nothing more than Stimac's puppets. All that's missing is him walking beside you on a stroll last night to complete the "beautiful story" picture.
you really gotta wonder about certain things when an owner starts preaching about how everything is "clean" and above board right after losing the championship—makes you question what's actually going on behind the scenes... idk... just feels off.
not really related to this thread, but I had to put it somewhere. 😉
I’m actually being serious here (sadly)—unlike you, who seems to see everything through some weird lens For at least two years now, you’ve been claiming he's finished, but I haven't seen him slip even a millimeter in all that time... if anything, all I see is more and more pushback against people like you. That's pretty much the only thing changing.
Mamić hasn't ever been this powerful—no matter how much Bauer claims otherwise—and honestly, I just don't see a way to get rid of him.. he’s got the police, the courts, the local politicians, the entire USSF (even the guys from the South!), all divided up. He split the fans right down the middle, so there's basically zero opposition left. Sure, you have that group of four, but they aren't enough to actually topple him—Chicago is just too stagnant, and without some massive grassroots movement, those four won't move the needle at all. My one real hope was that UEFA or FIFA would give our government the green light to step in and oust him, but as we've seen, both organizations have openly sided with Mamić and ended up slapping the government's wrists instead... the end result? We'll probably be watching Lokomotiva in the top flight again next season, so let's not get ahead of ourselves... If we lived in a country where stadiums averaged 25,000 people per game, someone like Zdravko Mamić wouldn't even exist. But since we live in America, Mamić is just the reality—a problem that’s going to be incredibly hard to fix. I genuinely don't see a solution; if anything, he just seems to be getting stronger and more arrogant by the day....
Unbelievable. Is anyone actually going to hold anyone accountable for those guys sitting in jail for 15 days for no damn reason? I mean, if something like this happened to me—I’d probably be getting fired from my job by now, and nobody would even blink.
boldhound8 said:Don't do that—just send the even ones😁
I printed them all out and sent them today—even and odd numbers included, haha
And seriously, let's not make this harder than it needs to be. If someone went through the trouble of putting this whole thing together, the least the rest of us can do is print it, sign it, and toss it in the mail
Managed to get in somehow on Sunday—couldn't do it yesterday though. Didn't have a ticket with my name on it either Sunday or yesterday, and I'm not letting those lowlifes put my name on a ticket, period. It's a matter of principle, I guess... Yesterday I breeze through two checkpoints, pass the scanner, and think to myself—just like Sunday—that I'm golden. I'm in. But then after the scanner: bam, "show me your ticket," "ID please." I knew right then I wasn't moving an inch... And when he realized the info didn't match? Pure joy. He immediately starts shouting, calling me a moron, saying "no way, no way," and even calls over the people nearby to brag about it. Like he caught some high-profile terrorist or something... Honestly, the security at Dodger Stadium is a hundred times better than any police force in the world... If we had gone to Yankee Stadium or Madison Square Garden instead, they probably would've treated us better and let us in easier. This level of repression is just insane And how arrogant and maybe even fueled by spite this younger Jerry Jones is—personally, I find him even more disgusting than the old man—dedicating a win to the BBB veterans... They're powerful and they still act like they own the place and mock everyone... at least in my opinion
Jesse Campbell said:What does any of this have to do with us? And who ever claimed he isn't powerful? We've gone up against much bigger players than him before.
That photo of all the fans standing together—after the media spent 20 years painting us as bloodthirsty savages—that's not getting ruined by even 50 Mamić's.
Besides, you haven't heard about the inspection ruling? Now Mamić is basically left with nothing but Joe to save him. Just you wait... 😉
Look, I respect you, I really do, but man—you're living in a total fantasy land. In the world he actually operates in, that guy does whatever the hell he wants, insults whoever he feels like, and honestly, I don't see anyone who can actually stop him anytime soon. P.S. One day he’ll fall—that's obvious to everyone—but when? And once he finally does go down, you'll be sitting there saying "I told you so," but how many more decades are we going to be waiting for that to happen?
Jesse Campbell said:Facts. They’re probably gonna be even more unhinged now since they got absolutely crushed this Sunday.
Get a grip!
Yeah, yeah, he lost... I've been telling everyone for at least two years straight that this guy is more powerful than the Prime Minister or the President. Everyone used to laugh in my face back then—God knows why (unfortunately)—but lately, nobody's laughing anymore.....
Thomas Castillo11 said:Don't you get that they're gonna be collecting data for every single game next year? It’s become totally "normal" out there. And it's not even some undercover thing to flag people—it’s just because sports have turned into pure consumerism now. I mean, I went to a local pickup game a couple of years ago and gave my full name, and honestly, I couldn't care less if they have me in their system or whatever. You rent a movie at Blockbuster, you give your name. You grab gas off the highway, you give your name. It's just life, I guess.
So now giving a name is the big issue?! Because they want a blacklist, obviously. Look, if they—or rather, *he*—wants to blacklist us, what makes you and driftingfalcon88 think we can't pull this off without using our real names on the ticket?? They can always recognize the vibe and the brand of sneakers someone's wearing..
What I was trying to say was—when everything gets forced on us, we'll settle this in court. We've got the muscle for that. You can't fix this stuff on some street corner because the law is involved, and this time, constitutional law is on our side. And the time for this kind of thing will come pretty fast. Like they say, nothing stays dark forever, and his little scheme won't either.
ps. For driftingfalcon88 and those others who used fake names: back in Iceland, a few of us didn't even have tickets because people were selling them ten minutes after kickoff, and by the time we showed up, we were stuck outside the stadium. Once the crowd thinned out, they started checking IDs. Just regular folks, wearing baseball caps and stuff, haha, bought tickets from scalpers like 50 yards from the entrance, and they wouldn't let them in because the names didn't match. And that was just freaking Iceland.
Whatever happens, happens. If they want our names, fine, NO WAY, even if everything goes south $17, it won't be the first or last time.. If I hand over my name, it's basically the same as applying for a Vaučer myself. It's the exact same thing, so why act tough? Let's just request 4,000 tickets through the Vaučer system and everyone heads down South... why complicate things, why even bother fighting🤷
So I grabbed the tickets—each one has a specific name on it. A buddy of mine picked up a ticket using his own ID, but for the second one, he just totally made up a random name I'm not even putting my actual name on mine, not even under any other category
Now, the big question is... will they actually let someone in using a fake name on the ticket? Who knows, maybe, I guess