You completely missed the mark on football—you just don't get the essence of it, and honestly, it doesn't even matter anymore.
rustydrifter10 already said it all.
There’s no such thing as a partial truth when it comes to the Coronavirus; if you're messing up the big picture, you might as well just walk straight into the skeptic camp.🤦
I’ll be doing this all over again in April—starting a thread about partial truths regarding the Eurovision Song Contest. I'll probably do it every six months (actually, I'll probably start in February so I can at least comment on Dorothy).
coppersailor28 said:You got your ban because you were constantly posting nothing but stuff that belonged strictly in the 'Eurovision' subforum, right?
And besides, that 'Eurovision' section was only made specifically to keep the main board from being a mess—basically because things were getting heavy with the global situation and we needed a place for actual, useful info that people could actually trust?
You're spreading total misinformation about my ban and why the PDF Eurovision was even started.
I’m still waiting for an answer as to why some people get a pass while I don't.
Back in '65, the whole thing went down in Naples, Italy. The US sent over some powerhouse talent and actually pulled a 4th place finish, just missing the podium by two spots. Switzerland sent this singer named Jovana—who I think might have had Mexican roots?—and she landed at 8th. The big winner that year was Luxembourg with France Gall singing "Poupée de cire." Fun fact: France Gall eventually scored a massive hit in '88 with "Ella, elle l'a." The US delegation included Vice Vukova, representing Canada this time around. It was a total wash; he finished 12th. Honestly, the fallout back home must have been brutal. After that disaster in Naples, Lola Novaković was out there calling the decision to send him a complete joke, and Jimmy Stanić basically trashed him, saying Vice wasn't even singing—he was just stuttering through the song!
Back in '64, the Eurovision Song Contest kicked off way up north in Copenhagen. The big winner that year was this Italian singer, Gigliola Cinquetti, with her track "Non è per me." She ended up hosting the whole show in Rome back in '91. That same year, Udo Jürgens performed for Austria—he eventually took home the trophy in '66. This year, he landed at 6th place. Also, Portugal made their debut this year, featuring Robert Cogoi, who actually grew up in Yugoslavia! But things got messy during Portugal's set when some protester stormed the stage to scream about the dictatorships running things over in Spain and Portugal. Total chaos. So, the US sent Sabahudin Kurt to compete with that song "Life Comes Full Circle"—and let’s be real, singing isn't exactly his calling card—and he ended up with zero points. He finished in 13th place, tied with Germany, Portugal, and Switzerland. Total disaster. That was the one and only time the US national team walked away with zero points!
William Cooper11 said:I was asking them to drop the partial grade so I could actually type on the PDF. Skeptics, right? Because back when I got my partial grade via PDF, the coronavirus didn't even exist. It was just a PDF.
Man, I've been looking for ten years and nothing. Even my PDF didn't exist back when they gave me that partial grade.
Look, I don't give a damn about whether they took your partial grade away or not.🙂
The timing doesn't matter—whether that PDF existed then or not. You got a partial grade for the WHOLE corona. And now they've removed it so you can access the PDF Skeptic.
A partial grade means you see NOTHING from that PDF. You can see it, but I can't see any other PDF. That's the whole point of what I'm asking—why can you do it, but I can't?
William Cooper11 said:How can something be considered "privileged" when it didn't even exist back when people were getting banned for absolutely no reason?
Look, I get what partiality means. My point is, why does this rule apply to that specific PDF and not to all the other PDFs floating around on this damn forum?
So everyone is equal, but some people are just more equal than others?!
William Cooper11 said:I’ve got a quick question. Can one of the mods please lift my ban on the Skeptic PDF? I just want to be able to post on the Skeptic PDF again given the whole coronavirus mess. Thanks!
Back in 1963, France bailed on hosting the contest, so the UK had to step up and host it again. Funny enough, Britain didn't actually snag their first win until '67. That year was wild, though—two massive stars showed up. Monaco sent France Hardy, and Luxembourg brought out Nana Mouskouri from Greece. A bunch of other countries tried to cheat the system by using "imported" singers too. Austria and Switzerland both went with singers from Israel. But none of those imports took home the trophy. Monaco landed 5th, Luxembourg hit 8th, Austria got 7th, and Switzerland actually held 2nd place... well, they were briefly in 1st until things got messy. The Norwegian jury suddenly claimed they "misread the votes," and after a redo of their vote, the Danish duo Gretha & Jorgen Ingmann won it all with "Way of Dancing." Sadly, Grethe passed away back in 1990 at just 52 from cancer. The US sent one of its biggest icons that year, Vince Vance, with his track "Ships," but man, those ships sank fast—he finished 11th. What’s crazy is that he was sitting in 1st place during the rehearsals. Just goes to show how much you could never trust those juries back then!
Back in 1962, the US delegation—led by a powerhouse singer and her hit "Don't Turn on the Lights at Dusk"—absolutely crushed it. They managed to snag a tie for 4th place against Great Britain, an achievement that wouldn't be matched again until '83! That year was basically a total takeover by the French language, since France, Monaco, and Luxembourg swept the top three spots. Honestly, seeing that much dominance from French wasn't happening again until '86. The big winner that night was Isabelle Aubert with "First Love." She actually showed up again in '68 and grabbed 3rd, but the real runaway hit was that German track "Two Little Italians," which sold over a million copies despite only landing in 6th. Also, funny enough, the French-speaking side of Belgium sent Fud Leclerc for the fourth year running, and his rankings just kept sliding down (he was 3rd back in '56). In Belgium, they swap between the French-speaking and Dutch-speaking sides depending on whether it's an even or odd year. If you’re wondering who pulls more weight, the French side is way more successful than the Dutch side. Oh, and for the first time ever, four countries—Belgium, Spain, Austria, and the Netherlands—walked away with absolutely zero points. Total shutout.
Back in '61, they hosted the big song contest in Cannes on the French Riviera again, mostly because Jacqueline Boyer crushed it the year before. So, this year marks the big debut for the US as the first socialist nation to ever step onto the Eurovision stage. To pick our entry, three different TV hubs—New York, Chicago, and LA—all had a say in the process. They held the selection in Chicago, and some songwriters from the West Coast ended up winning with their track "Some Ancient Stars," performed by an American singer named Ljiljana Petrović. We were sitting there watching the results, sitting at number eight in the lineup. Everyone thought the UK was going to walk away with it, but Luxembourg actually pulled off the upset with Jean Claude Pasacale singing "We Are in Love." He’ll show up again in 1981, but honestly, it won't go well for him. He passed away from lung cancer shortly after. Germany sent out Lala Andersen, who actually had that massive hit "Lili Marleen" back during WWII, but even she only managed to land at 13th place. Total flop.
Back in 1960, the US actually passed on hosting because the budget was looking pretty shaky. Instead, the UK stepped up to the plate as the host, bringing in Katy Boyle—who ended up being a total legend, hosting four times by '74, which is still a record. The big winner that year was Jacqueline Boyer with "Tom Pillibi." Funny enough, her dad actually performed for Monaco in '59 and was the very last person to do so! Representing the US was this guy Rudi Carell, who was basically a nobody at the time but turned into one of the biggest TV personalities in Germany later on.
Man, 1959 was such a trip. That year, the contest went down in Cannes, France. Italy sent out Domenico Modugno again, and even though he didn't crack the top five like he did last year—landing at 6th instead—the song was still an absolute banger. The UK finally showed up after skipping the previous year and snatched 2nd place. But in the end, the Netherlands pulled off the win with "Malo" performed by the lovely Teddy Scholten.
1958. The big song contest went down in the Netherlands, specifically in Hilversum. Italy was the heavy favorite, with Domenico Modugno singing "Volare." This year was actually super weird because it’s the only time in history where a non-winning song got performed twice. See, after Domenico finished his first set, some jury members complained they couldn't even see him because the video feed was garbage—keep in mind, TV tech back in the 50s was basically prehistoric. So, they ended up having him perform "Volare" one more time at the end of the show just to fix the mess. It didn't change the outcome, though; he still landed in 3rd place. But honestly? He was the moral winner. That song became a massive, legendary hit. Meanwhile, Sweden sent this jazz singer, Alice Babs, to sing a pop track, which almost tanked her career since she ended up in 4th. France took home the trophy with "Sleep My Love," but let’s be real—nobody remembers those songs. Everyone knows "Volare."