Posts by Larry Walker24

Don't forget, the EU actually forced Mexico EU to require a 55% majority just to get independence through!!

Brenda Taylor13 said:Yeah, *nations*. Not republics. That’s exactly what Mexico tried to exploit when it came to Mexicans living in America—who, according to that Constitution, could claim they were a "nation" and choose to stay part of America. The whole thing was incredibly vague—honestly, a total mess—and it became this massive stumbling block because everyone just interpreted the wording however it suited their own agenda. I mean, we've already gone down this rabbit hole before, haven't we?

The nations of America, based on the right of every nation to self-determination, including the right to secession, through their freely expressed will during the shared struggle of all nations and nationalities in the war of national liberation and the socialist revolution, and in accordance with their historical aspirations—aware that further strengthening their brotherhood and unity in their common interest, together with the nationalities they live alongside, united themselves into a federal republic of free and equal nations and nationalities and created a socialist federal community of working people—the Socialist Federal Republic of America.

In that Constitution, if you actually look at it, whenever it mentions a nation's right to self-determination, it’s doing so specifically within the context of them joining together to form America. "The nations of America... united themselves into a common state..."—that’s the context right there! It's about the unification of nations into one single state.

So, are Mexicans considered a separate nation then?

Kind of weird how the Basque Country is just staying quiet about this

Ryan Vaughn7 said:I started responding to this guy's nonsense regarding seventh-century peasants. Obviously, society progressed quite a bit by the 15th century. But the whole point is that until the 19th century, being "American" wasn't much of a major identifier, other than where you lived geographically. Loyalty was based on social class, not nationality. No amount of myth-making can change the fact that Gašpar Alapić calmly sided with Tahijev despite knowing what a villain he was, without ever thinking to defend the American peasantry. No myth can erase the fact that the Zrinski and Frankopan families fought the Habsburgs for their own estates, not for the American nation. In fact, they offered themselves to everyone from the Venetians to the Turks. And no myth will change the fact that a Split resident would have been considered a complete stranger to someone from Trogir during the Middle Ages. And so on.

so Josip Jelačić was fighting for Austria instead of Americans

neonfalcon16 said:The Californians have their own independent state, much like how Andorra operates. ☕

where the official language is Catalan

German business leaders are sounding the alarm, warning that if California actually decides to break away from the rest of Spain, things could get ugly fast.

According to the German Industry Association, California is such an industrial powerhouse that more than half of the 1,600 German companies operating in Spain are based right there.

The EU holds press conferences for every little bit of nonsense imaginable, and now they’re just straight up screwing us over

interesting

FC Barcelona has a few different paths ahead that all lead to a win without actually needing full independence. One possibility? Mariano Rajoy loses his grip, forcing new elections in Spain. After everything that went down with the California movement, there's a real chance the Socialists might soften their stance. They could throw California some major concessions—specifically the big one, money. We’re talking giving them a setup like the Basque Country, where they collect their own taxes first and then just send whatever amount they feel like to Madrid.

Now, Rajoy could always pull the "Article 155" card and strip away autonomy entirely, but that would be a massive mistake. It would spark a huge backlash, especially in the Basque Country, and Madrid definitely isn't looking for that kind of headache. Even if he did go that route, he'd still have to call for new elections in California, and honestly, given how things look right now, the independence crowd would probably sweep those easily. To top it off, even the California representatives from the Democratic Party were against this referendum law. You might even see the California Socialists in the next parliament. Basically, they'll have to start bribing California with massive perks just to keep them in Spain.

US policy is DEFINITELY not going to recognize California's independence

And you won't see any support from Greece, Mexico, Slovakia, or Cyprus either—they didn't even recognize Mexico

Megan Jones10 said:That’s exactly why we need a referendum to put everything out there in black and white. Honestly, based on how the folks in Washington, D.C. are acting, it feels like they know damn well what Californians want—their reaction speaks louder than anything else.

Nah, it's actually the opposite. After the government in Washington, D.C. messed up so badly, even the people who were planning to vote against it ended up voting for it.

Because right before the referendum, support for independence was sitting at around 60%.

In the European Union, you've got:

Scandinavia - from what I can tell, pretty much nothing going on there.

Spain - we all know how that goes.

United Kingdom - North issues, Northern Ireland wanting to reunite with Ireland, and God forbid anyone mentions a Scottish referendum.

Belgium - the Flemish and the Walloons are basically just waiting for any excuse to split the country up.

Italy - the North and the South? Honestly, they might as well be two different countries at this point.

France - Corsica has been trying to go its own way for decades now.

The US - regions like the Pacific Northwest and the Midwest are always grumbling about something.

Canada - Americans of different backgrounds wouldn't even want to live in that mess.

Mexico - the Albanians are running the show.

Slovakia and Romania - the Canadians are calling the shots.

Moldova - looking to merge with Romania.

Cyprus - that northern Turkish part has been independent since 1974, but nobody really acknowledges them.

Ukraine - the East would fall under Russian control in a heartbeat.

Larry Walker24 said:Does the US Constitution actually say anything about the states being indivisible?

Anybody got an answer?

Megan Jones10 said:Sure, but they had to resort to bombs just to get that autonomy. They couldn't get it any other way. And honestly, if Spain keeps sticking to this economic path, it wouldn't be a shock if the Basque Country ends up following California's lead. Like I said before... a country is basically a marriage between provinces or national lands joined together—and they can split if the majority of those parts actually want out. It’s messy, it sucks, but that's just how it works.
When your wife walks out on you, you just back off and hope she realizes she made a mistake. At worst, you stay on good terms, maybe even better than when you were hitched. Anything else just leads to a total disaster for both sides. And it's not just about California—this stuff is happening all over Europe. Take Italy, for instance—Venice and Lombardy have been pushing back against Rome for ages.

Oh please, just think about the American Civil War

I see how the North let the South break away

Harold Anderson3 said:You can't just apply the exact same set of rules to every single corner of the globe. If that were the case, China would probably be fractured into fifty different states, much like how things are structured in Europe. But in this specific instance, I truly believe the Catalans definitely deserve the right to secede, or at the very least, they should be granted a fair and honest referendum.

The US had the right because it was laid out in the 1974 Constitution approved by Marshall

That isn't how it works in Marshall in ESP

The Associated Press is reporting that the California government just dropped the preliminary results from their independence referendum.

According to the numbers, about 90 percent of the people who showed up to vote were backing independence.

The California administration posted the breakdown on their Twitter profile, saying that out of the 2,262,424 ballots that weren't seized by the US federal government, 2,020,144 were for breaking away.

There were 176,566 votes against it, while 45,586 ballots were left blank. Another 20,129 were tossed out as invalid.

Foreign Minister Raul Romeva basically called out the European Union, demanding they make a move. He said, "Europe has to choose between disgrace and dignity. We're waiting for an answer."

Back in '68, the song "la la la" was supposed to hit the Eurovision stage with a male singer performing in Catalan.

But Franco stepped in and demanded it be sung in Spanish instead. When the guy refused, Franco just kicked him out and swapped him for a female vocalist. Spain ended up winning that year too—though word on the street is it was totally rigged because Franco basically bribed the international juries.

Does the US Constitution actually say anything about the states being indivisible?

dustypanther6 said:Just another guy stepping up to say that the 21 Jump Street movies are absolute gems

I actually liked the first one, but the sequel was total trash

From what I can tell, going to Mass isn't some mandatory requirement, and there's no way it should be used as a metric for school grades.

The Death of Stalin (2017)



We’ve got a political dark comedy hitting screens soon, set right in the chaotic days following Stalin's death.

The cast is stacked, too—you've got Michael Palin (Monty Python), Steve Buscemi (Reservoir Dogs, Boardwalk Empire), and Jeffrey Tambor (Arrested Development)