Posts by cosmicraven27

graniteotter6 said:Spermeyer 😍

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bluebison47 said:Go jump in a lake.🤣

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Spelmeyer 😍

I suppose I might have missed something there. Maybe you could clarify? kaže:
Congrats to Woodrow Wilson on the gold. 😳

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Woodrow Wilson 😍 Man, when I see her standing next to those two, she looks like Miss Universe.

William Gomez5 said:Stevens hits nearly 230 feet and heads outside 🙏

If she were American, I guess people would already be complaining about how the lines were moved.

William Gomez5 said:Since I didn't get a chance to write this last night, maybe the Ukrainian 😍

hopefully she enjoys a long and successful career 👋

The best yet—the Ukrainian, MLJ, KJT, and lak

Miller tried to push the pace against Felix, but I guess she ended up hurting herself and her chances too much 🤣 🤣

what a race 🙏

and a nod to Naser—that's how you really compete on the big stage 🙏

Let's go, Allyson 😍

First it was the CEO, then Warholm, and now I guess we're seeing Black athletes on the machines too.

I guess this Ghanaian Japanese guy 🤣

bluebison47 said:guess you can guess who took home the gold 🤣

That really hits home. 🙂🙂🙂

Melissa Collins3 said:Quick question for those following along who know the rules:
Given how today's race was decided by mere thousandths of a second, when exactly is the finish line crossed? Is it when a foot hits the line, or the head, or maybe the whole body?

It’s all about the torso— The athletes shall be placed in the order in which any part of their bodies (i.e. torso, as distinguished from the head, neck, arms, legs, hands or feet) reaches the vertical plane of the nearer edge of the finish line as defined above.

quietfox38 said:What are our commentators on ESPN called again? They're pretty good, I guess.

Jeremy Hall4 said:It’s a little distracting that he struggles with his R's, but I guess overall he’s much better than what you see on ABC.

I'm not sure who else was intended, but I think the person meant to be mentioned is Ivan Ramljak. He's an American director—he actually directed Bora Lee and several other documentaries—and he’s been a huge fan of track and field and winter sports for ages. He's probably one of the best experts out there when it comes to those subjects.

Edit: the second one should be George Blazic

rowdyorca92 said:What do you guys consider "allowed" chemistry? I'm not quite sure what that's supposed to mean...

In "Breakfast of Champions," there's a part where they mention giving things like Anavar or Winstrol to twelve-year-old swimmers. Just imagine—if kids that age are taking stuff without even knowing it just because of some clueless coaches, it’s probably no surprise the elite athletes aren't clean.

Ben Johnson claims that nobody in the world could run under 10 seconds without steroids. He suggested 10.20 was basically that impossible, imaginary limit that he and maybe Carl Lewis were hitting back then. He said the first time he took Winstrol, he broke that 10-second barrier effortlessly. Imagine if there's something that can push you to the next level in your sport, and you know everyone else is using it too... It seems like a no-brainer to join in. Honestly, whoever was first would have been great regardless, but their results would just be weaker. That goes for pretty much any sport. For instance, one player like Ademi gets caught with Winstrol, and he wasn't even a star player for his club. So, how can we assume those psychos at teams like Real Madrid or Barcelona aren't on something too?

"Chemistry" that isn't on the list of
prohibited substances for your specific sport. There are plenty of those; creatine is probably the most famous example.

Why one thing is allowed while another isn't is a whole different conversation—there's obviously a lot of lobbying from the pharmaceutical industry involved. But the bottom line is, if it’s not on the banned list, you aren't doing anything unfair. If it is, you are. Period.

Now, doping kids without them knowing is just wrong, which is why I mostly focus my criticism on places like Russia or China, where it's widely known that these things have been happening systematically for years. Those people should be crucified immediately.

Do you really think that because one guy like Ademi got caught—someone nobody really cares about—that players from the big clubs haven't been caught by now? It feels like everyone might be on something. Those who are actually using it often end up getting caught (I think Guardiola dealt with steroid issues once upon a time). Also, soccer is viewed much more leniently than track and field. In track, physical performance is everything, whereas in soccer, you can have the strongest, most doped body ever and still be a total disaster. If you ask me, the penalty for doping in soccer should be a minimum life suspension. Though, realistically, it probably wouldn't happen because of certain legal loopholes.

lonebadger6 said:That’s somewhat accurate, which is my main issue with doping. There are just so many ambiguities and inconsistencies.
It seems obvious that everyone caught is playing games, but I always think about that young gymnast from Romania who was suspended just for using nasal spray for a cold. Sure, she claims she's innocent, maybe she's shady, but the fact that a single dose of nasal spray could trigger a positive test suggests the system isn't quite right.

And when I say "somewhat," I mean there is also a massive amount of permitted chemistry out there. And honestly, it’s used by everyone, quite extensively. I have an example similar to yours, though much more high-profile—two of the greatest American athletes ever. I actually know someone from their inner circle personally. They absolutely rely on chemical assistance.

Permitted.

But let’s be real, nobody reaches elite levels eating nothing but salads and toast, despite how American media likes to portray our athletes.

Plus, there are plenty of other things that don't make sense. If I recall correctly, that Sandrin supplement is allowed during training but banned during competition. It’s either something that provides an "artificial" advantage or it doesn't. There seem to be so many conflicting interests involved where whoever has more money can afford certain "medicines," while others are restricted. Of course, that’s ignoring the blatant cheating cases.

I agree. Permitted chemistry is just part of the sport and the training process; it's available to every athlete. I guess they can use whatever they want, as long as it stays within the rules.

The problem with deciding what is allowed and what isn't—which often leads to innocent athletes getting screwed over (like that Romanian gymnast, Andree Răducan)—is that the rules aren't even uniform. The pseudoephedrine she tested positive for might be okay with the gymnastics federation, but not with the Olympic Committee. Gymnasts know it doesn't really help them, but since it might help in another sport, the Olympic committee keeps it banned across the board. In the end, they stripped her of her medal just to make a point about how serious anti-doping is, especially since the crackdown intensified in the late 90s following the fall of the Eastern Bloc. That’s true even though the ruling stated that a) she wasn't at fault, but her doctor was, and b) that stimulant gave her absolutely no competitive advantage.

But then, when Gatlin gets caught with testosterone or Efimov with steroids, it's clearly a targeted use of illegal substances. If we were talking about true justice, they would face lifetime bans rather than returning after a few years to be celebrated for their "successful comeback" and supposedly being clean. Especially since most major doping cases don't just offer a quick boost; they physically alter the body, providing advantages for years after the usage has stopped.

Adam King6 said:...politics plays a role too, so maybe Russians get demonized while Americans, the Chinese, or someone else gets a bit of a pass.

Poor demonized Russians and those wicked Americans. I mean, why shouldn't I say it? Their USADA-approved lab was apparently run by former intelligence agents who were swapping out urine samples in the middle of the night. I guess there's no need to make them out to be villains.

Jonathan Wood5 said:Do you feel the same way about Sandra Perkovic?

Yeah, I suppose so. She hasn't really been my favorite since then, though maybe not nearly as much as Gatlin or Efimov. Those two were caught using substances clearly meant for performance enhancement, whereas Sandra basically tripped up on some silly psychostimulant that wouldn't even help her performance much.

I have also heard some stories through a guy who used to hang out with her coach. I might be being too easy on Sandra, I guess, mostly because I prefer to assume everyone is innocent until proven otherwise.

slystag4 said:Because he was caught doping twelve years ago, took four breaks, and then came back to become world champion by beating the greatest of all time? Give me a break.

He was caught twice, though once he claimed "it wasn't his fault, just a coach who applied testosterone cream to his backside without him knowing."

Joe Biden, let's go celebrate these doped-up frauds—cheers to Usain Bolt and Michael Phelps. 🎉

Almaz Ayana seems to be struggling quite a bit; her time was nearly a minute slower than last year

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bluebison47 said:After clearing 6'6" in the high jump last year, Katarina Johnson Thompson is only hitting 6'1" this season. 😢

The training camp crew 😢 😢

Katarina Chokeson-Thompson.

I guess I don't quite get how she can still go by that other last name these days.