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Jesse Howard43 said:I suspect that the eyes—specifically the entire area surrounding them—are perhaps the most critical factor. In my view, they likely provide the greatest positive impact when they look good, yet they can also be the primary element that detracts from one's overall appearance if they don't. I haven't spent an excessive amount of time dwelling on the finer details of aesthetics, but at a glance, that seems to be my initial impression.

It is quite interesting that you brought that up, as there is also a significant connection between the maxilla and ocular health.

The link provided above offers a pretty solid, concise breakdown of the situation:

The relationship between maxillary structure and aesthetic appeal is a subject I find endlessly fascinating, though perhaps a bit more complex than most people realize. It’s one of those foundational elements of craniofacial anatomy that remains largely invisible until something goes wrong, yet it dictates so much about the overall harmony of the face. In my estimation, the maxilla acts as the primary architectural anchor for the midface. When we talk about facial beauty, we aren't just talking about a single feature like eyes or lips; we are discussing the structural framework that supports them. A well-developed maxilla provides the necessary projection to support the soft tissue of the cheeks and the periorbital region. If the maxilla is recessed—what some might call a "flat" profile—it creates a cascading effect. You often see a loss of volume in the cheekbones and a certain lack of definition around the eyes, which can make a person look prematurely aged or tired, regardless of their actual age. Furthermore, there is the matter of the dental arch and lip support. A properly positioned maxilla ensures that the upper teeth and jaw align in a way that naturally supports the upper lip. This creates that subtle, youthful fullness that many people strive for through cosmetic fillers. Without that underlying skeletal support, the lips tend to collapse inward, which significantly alters the lower third of the face. I suppose one could argue that modern orthodontic trends are increasingly moving toward addressing this skeletal foundation rather than just straightening teeth. We are seeing more interest in how bone positioning affects the entire facial silhouette. It isn't just about a "perfect smile"; it's about whether the scaffolding underneath actually holds up the features we consider beautiful. Maybe it's an oversimplification to say the maxilla is the sole arbiter of beauty, but from a structural standpoint, it certainly plays a starring role.

It seems to me that one cannot overlook how much the maxilla—the upper jaw—dictates the overall aesthetic appeal of the human face. I suppose it’s easy to focus on individual features like the eyes or the lips, but if you look closely, the structural foundation provided by the upper jaw essentially sets the stage for everything else. It influences facial projection, the support of the midface, and even the way light hits your features. Maybe it isn't talked about enough in mainstream discussions of attractiveness, but from what I can gather, the underlying bone structure plays a far more significant role in facial harmony than most people realize. It reaches quite high, almost grazing the edge of the eye sockets. The structure extends quite deep into the cranial cavity. In fact, the specific dimensions, contour, and placement of the maxillae serve as the primary blueprint for where the nose sits on the face. I suppose I should probably address the matter of the eyes, though it feels like a somewhat abstract starting point. It’s an interesting topic to dwell on, if you ask me. There is something about the way we perceive visual stimuli that dictates so much of our interaction with the world around us, isn't there? Perhaps it is more profound than I am giving it credit for, but I find myself wondering how much our ocular perception shapes our very reality. It is a heavy thought, I guess.The sheer scope of the maxilla is something most people completely overlook. It isn't just some isolated structural component; it’s the foundation for your cheekbones, the shape of your palate, the positioning of your upper teeth, and even the alignment of your lower jaw. Once you truly grasp the profound anatomical significance of this single bone, it becomes almost absurd—perhaps even a bit foolish—how much emphasis is placed solely on straightening teeth. I suppose if you're dealing with a severe malocclusion, focusing strictly on dental alignment misses the entire forest for the trees. It is an interesting physiological observation, though I suppose one might find it unsettling if they aren't prepared for it. I’ve often wondered about the implications of having eyes of slightly different sizes—what we might colloquially call ocular asymmetry. From a strictly biological standpoint, most people possess some degree of facial asymmetry; it is arguably the norm rather than the exception. However, when the difference in eye size becomes pronounced, it can certainly alter how a person is perceived by others. I guess you could say it creates a certain visual tension. There is a subtle, almost phantom-like quality to it that draws the gaze, perhaps unintentionally. I suspect that from a purely aesthetic perspective, some might find it striking, while others might perceive it as a flaw. It really comes down to how much one values perfect symmetry versus the more organic, irregular beauty found in nature. Maybe it’s just a matter of perspective, but I’ve always felt that these small deviations are what make a face truly memorable. It isn't necessarily a medical concern unless there's an underlying issue, but it does pose a fascinating question regarding human perception and the way we process facial features.A deviated septum—it’s often just a byproduct of how the maxilla has shifted out of place. If you take a look at these photos, you can really start to see the domino effect the maxilla has on everything else, from the positioning of the cheekbones and the eyes down to the shape of the nose.

Given that the maxillae extend up toward the base of the orbital sockets, their elevated and forward projection essentially provides structural support for the eyeballs themselves. I suppose this explains why a face with significant horizontal development tends to yield much more attractive, vibrant-looking eyes, accompanied by smooth, taut skin in the suborbital region. Conversely, if a face is primarily vertically oriented with flat, downwardly displaced maxillae, the eyes can end up looking quite sunken and perpetually exhausted. Furthermore, when the maxilla is recessed, it effectively restricts the forward projection of both the anterior teeth and the lower jaw. This misalignment frequently results in significant crowding around the lower canines. Additionally, a recessed lower jaw almost inevitably leads to a rather unflattering, sagging chin profile.
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Jesse Howard43 said:I honestly don't quite grasp what distinguishes a good maxilla from a bad one. I suppose there is some kind of distinction, but it has always struck me as somewhat esoteric. My gut feeling is that the eyes—specifically the entire orbital region—are actually the most critical factor. It seems to me that the eyes provide the most value when they are well-positioned, and conversely, suffer the most if everything else is off. I haven't spent much time dwelling on the specifics, but at first glance, that’s how it appears to me.

https://tooth-for-a-tooth.com/beauty/maxilla/
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Richard Sanders7 said:Exactly, the agepill. It’s one of those things you just can't dodge. I suppose if we're talking about the male experience, the dickpill might actually be the most brutal one out there. If you're dealing with being a dicklet, you can barely even handle basic self-pleasure, let alone anything else. At that point, I guess it feels like your only options are trannymaxxing or just opting for the rope.

ULTRA BLACKPILL

Honestly, this is probably one of the most depressing subreddits in existence.

https://www.reddit.com/r/smalldickproblems/

I actually know a kid who hangs out on those looksmaxxing forums; he's a total dicklet and still a virgin because he's too embarrassed to take his clothes off, yet somehow he's easily at least two points more attractive than I am.
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Jesse Howard43 said:. I suppose that’s just some sort of desperate coping mechanism regarding oversized jawlines. No true apex predator would ever look quite like that.

+1

Maxilla > mandible

The maxilla is arguably the most significant bone in the human body, by far.
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Charles Bailey2 has such an elongated face; I think Christian Nelson62 already pointed that out quite clearly.
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Yeah 😁 but honestly, that’s just his side of the story. He always acts like everything is perfect and running exactly according to plan—as if everyone else is totally dependent on him—but then nothing ever actually pans out. I mean, who knows what that Asian woman is actually thinking? Still, JBW definitely needs to step up and help him; objectively speaking, things are looking up for him right now, and his chances have definitely improved. Personally, I'm rooting for Genghis Khan.

Richard Sanders7, where are you even placing wanderingheron9? If he had the height, I might consider giving him Chadlite, but without it, he's stuck in the Democratic Party cage forever.
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Absolutely savage... this American girl with the recessed, boneless features and a completely flat profile looks like she’s physically recoiling from this ethnic guy who is absolutely Microsoft her from the side. But, since he isn't white (JBW) and doesn't quite hit that height requirement, he fails to meet the criteria—plus, he's just not really her type anyway.

total over for sub8 men in 2023

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Richard Sanders7 said:And they just love traveling 😬

BRUTAL

It’s officially over... it never even really started, I suppose.
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Is this physique actually unmoggable?

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Richard Sanders7 said:The woman on the right in that first photo actually bears a striking resemblance to Misty Hyman.

Janica Kostelić Holy BASED

All right, let's get to it. 🤣 I’m still sitting here, staring at that jawline and facial structure, trying to figure out exactly who it reminds me of.

Gary Cook84 said:The woman on the right in that last photo... I don't know, she has this strangely unsettling expression on her face. It’s almost a bit intimidating, if I'm being honest.

I suppose she might leave a slightly better impression if she were to tidy up those overly thick eyebrows.

That’s Megah Roch. She’s pretty well known for those eyebrows, though if I’m being honest, I’ve never been a huge fan myself—they just seem a bit too intense for my taste.

Yeah, I suppose you're right there. It does feel a little bit intimidating, almost alien in a way, which is probably why it stands out so much from everything else currently happening in the industry. It’s got an intense FWHM and a noticeably wide bigonial width—it definitely leans into that uncanny valley aesthetic.

I mean, there’s really no way to sugarcoat this—it’s just absolutely brutal.

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Christian Nelson62 said:steelorca5, since I don't really know anything about this subject, I have to wonder—aren't you actually our old Phil? I'm totally clueless when it comes to spotting clones. But Phil used to be just as obsessed with looks, outfits, and all that stuff.
Forgive me if I'm off base here.

True, though I'm not exactly keeping that a secret. By the way, he was just an amateur who barely scratched the surface of the topic; I'm basically Phil on steroids (no pun intended).

wanderingheron9 said:By the way, it’s actually pretty difficult to find any decent examples of women MOGGED online, whereas instances of brutal mogging between men—and especially women mogging men—are everywhere. Just sayin'...

That makes sense; it is harder to find. I can dig them up, but it happens much less frequently.
Plus, even when I look at those three examples, they're mostly models.

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BRUTAL MOGGING

This is a textbook example of maxillary mogging. The woman on the right has a significantly weaker maxilla, which causes her nose to look disproportionately large and her facial features to recede downward. In contrast, the woman on the left has much better maxillary development; her entire face projects forward rather than sloping toward the chin. It’s quite striking... the left side also appears wider and more compact because of that structure.

I can only imagine the cortisol spike the woman on the right felt when she first realized how much she was being outclassed by the woman on the left in this photo...

No mercy—mog or be mogged.

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Nicole Cruz50 said:Hold on. Let’s set this specific woman aside for a moment.

If you were to encounter a girl who looks like this in person, I suspect you wouldn't even bother glancing at all these so-called rankings first. I'm talking about a real-life situation here.

one massive YES!

In a live setting, I tend to notice the flaws and strengths of a face—both men and women—almost instantly. Within a few seconds, my brain just automatically processes it based on bone structure and years of experience, I suppose.

Even an average person (like most women, for instance) can tell within a second whether they'd be interested or not just by looking at a face. They might not know exactly why their intuition is hitting the mark because they haven't spent years studying aesthetics, but our brains subconsciously have that identical reaction. They just know it's "that look" or "something about her," even if they can't put it into technical terms (with exceptions, of course).

wanderingheron9 said:I consider "fives" to be women who are mediocre in every sense of the word—people you don't really notice, at least not at first glance.
Do you think she falls into that category?
Because if she does, then practically 99% of the women on this forum are subhumankas.

No, according to those strict, almost autistic PSL/looksmaxxing scales where a 5.5/10 is actually above average (since the true mean is closer to a 4, and a 10 doesn't exist while 9s are reserved for rare supermodels), she'd be a 5.5.

On a standard scale (where tens actually exist), I'd say she's roughly a 7/10. She's definitely above average, though that basically makes her a high-tier Becky. Maybe she's a Stacylite? Personally, I don't think so, especially given that lack of under-eye support; you can still see the dark circles even through the makeup...
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I’d give her a solid 5.5/10. She’s definitely a high-tier Becky, though she certainly managed to MOGGED everyone in her orbit

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If we compare her face to that absolute recessed subhumanka from the previous thread, it’s honestly laughable
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If we’re being strictly objective about her looks, her face just doesn't work. She isn't attractive or "curvy" in the facial sense because her entire upper and lower jaw is recessed; she really needs corrective surgery. And one should keep in mind that a fully recessed facial structure remains visible even when someone is using maxed-out makeup or filters. Without those, the situation would honestly be much worse.

The only way she could possibly be described as having curves is perhaps through her overall frame—long legs, certain plastic surgery on her breasts, and so on. From a purely genetic standpoint, she doesn't possess an above-average physique, but if she dresses in a provocative outfit, it might grab some attention.

Objectively speaking, this woman is unattractive in the face and likely needs maxillary and mandibular surgery to achieve any visible cheekbones (essentially pushing her entire upper jaw forward). She also needs to address the double chin; her underdeveloped mandible causes excess skin to bunch up where the bone is recessed, making her face look heavy even though she isn't actually overweight. Additionally, she'd need a rhinoplasty, as a recessed maxilla combined with being a mouthbreather almost automatically results in a larger nose by medical definition.

As for her body, she isn't exactly a gymmaxxer. There is visible fat and she has a noticeable love handle; she lacks any real development in her quads, hamstrings, calves, or abs. The same goes for her arms, back, and shoulders.
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I doubt she’ll even have 2% of the lifestyle Isabel enjoys, considering Kovacic’s net worth is probably north of $25 million.

And what "bombshell" physique? I'd say she's overrated.

Just look at that mediocre hip-to-waist ratio. Her genetics are pretty run-of-the-mill, honestly. For instance, Lydia Bačić absolutely MOGGED her when it comes to natural proportions.
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Oof, talk about BRUTAL MOGGING...

This recessed, melting subhuman looking girl with zero bone structure or facial projection is getting absolutely epicly MOGGED by Isabella.

Honestly, one of the better posts on here.

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Nicole Cruz50 says:
Oh my god, the blonde is stunning. 😍[/I]

She’s Kovacic's wife; she reminds me quite a bit of Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, you know, Jason Statham's wife.
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Just because someone has great bone structure doesn't mean they possess some massive, Neanderthal-style jawline ☕ on the contrary, men and women with those proportions often end up looking quite unattractive

This seems to be a complete misunderstanding of everything we discuss here. Having good bone structure certainly doesn't imply you should look like an old-world monarch with a protruding, heavy jaw; if anything, that looks deformed and unsightly

A jaw can actually be quite small; the real issue is simply whether the facial bones have developed proportionately

It’s a shame that one particular professor and academic failed to grasp that distinction 😳
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Oh 🍿 this sounds absolutely fantastic

CNN should definitely be more than enough given that height and IQ. If they turn him down, then everything that Bunny has been writing for years is nothing more than pure coping, and the only little bakery she’s actually looking for is the one on the corner. ☕