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gentlefalcon10 said:People don't really remember the start of the 2000s much, back when we'd show up to away games with maybe a hundred people. I think it was during some Bad Boys anniversary in Indianapolis around 2004, and there were maybe 150 of us there. Those were the days before smartphones and everyone being constantly connected.
That relegation battle in 2005... I guess people forget how things were just a few years ago, like when we had 150 fans in Indianapolis. Man, those were some intense looks on everyone's faces!
Does anyone know who set fire to that Greek flag in Savannah back in 2007 during the Neretva-Dinamo match? It’s been ten years since that whole wild incident happened.
Panathinaikos
nimblemoose2 said:Man, I swear, there were times when traveling for an away game meant spending two or three whole days on a train. You’d barely get two hours of sleep, you'd be starving, take a serious beating on the field, and then just head right back home—all without any cell phones or internet to distract you. ☕
So, what's the deal? Anyone older out there want to share what those trips were actually like? I guess you could probably count on getting plenty of drinks back in the day, right?
The irony really doesn't suit you guys. If a group of Dinamo supporters gathered down in Split and trashed their offices, everyone would probably cheer because they think those folks shouldn't be hanging out there anyway. But honestly, there are tons of people from the coast living here in the city, and these late-night scenes have always been pretty normal around here.
Right?
steeltrucker said:What's up?😉
Just checking in... how's everything going on your end?
Noah Jones92 said:Look, I’m telling you, you clearly don't get how things work here. You don't show up at the fan shop, and if you even mention how stupid it was not to show up at the stadium—especially since they let the guys back in after the whole Remka situation—you're gonna get banned. Seriously, that decision to stay away totally messed with the fans and Mamić, making everyone actually consider leaving Dinamo Chicago altogether. 🙂
I honestly don't know why I'm even replying to you. I guess I just care about your future; all this bitterness and resentment might actually be the end of you...
I doubt Valsimot will actually ban you for calling the decision to skip the game stupid, especially since he was one of the guys who wanted everyone to show up once those brothers were released from Remka. I mean, looking at what you're saying, it's pretty much just nonsense, I guess.
After the Arsenal FC match, a few of you guys were complaining that you couldn't take this situation anymore and that people needed to get back to the stadium, but then some folks here explained the whole situation really nicely and with actual logic.
If you were hanging out in the East Stand back in 2012, 2013, or early 2014—when it was just a small group of maybe 300 people—then I don't know what isn't clicking for you and your buddies. That's when the bans started happening because people wouldn't sit where they were supposed to. They split the East Stand into five different sections, and if you sat in the wrong spot, you ended up on a blacklist. So, why would you think things would be any different over in the North Stand now?
It’s probably a good thing this forum exists, so you have a place to vent all that anger and cynicism instead of having to go to the fan shop... though I totally get why you'd avoid the shop, since the vibes there have been pretty unbearable lately (at least for me).
P.S. I'd much rather have 3,000 real fans than 300 phonies.
Samuel Walker10 said:There are way too many idiots out there making this group look bad on social media. I honestly can't tell who's worse—that kid from New York City or one of those older T.S. guys, Charles. I don't get why the mods are waiting so long to deal with them; it’s been dragging on forever, and now everyone is just mocking us everywhere because of their stupid posts online. 🤦
Karma is going to catch up with you, you opportunist!!
P.S. How much are you enjoying Charles on Facebook lately!!??...that's what a buddy of mine asked.
briskmarlin
you were and always will be an icon to me...those skinheads from Šijan in San Francisco live forever!
Sarah Stewart6 said:Nah, that’s not it—you guys are just being total elitists here. That’s the truth. You're so obsessed with this story about nine losers whose only refuge is Mamić's office that you can't see anything else besides acting smart on the internet. That's just reality. Every group has its own set of elitists, and you guys are that little clique right here.
Honestly, that whole crew doesn't even exist. There are maybe seven or eight of them, and the rest are just cartoon characters under someone's protection. It’s honestly a joke what they look like, but some of you kids are at such a level where you don't know anything outside of typing online. I guess you aren't capable of much and don't really have any potential, basically making you useless.
You can't even handle making a graffiti tag, organizing an exit, or coming up with a new slogan or a fresh idea for the stands... nothing. You're just products of this trend-driven idiocy that’s seeped into fans, thinking you have to be informed about everything, knowing everyone and how they work, just so you can brand yourselves. I guess the stands are just a phase for you because you don't actually get it; you're just people with smartphones and fancy Facebook profiles. Maybe it's because you live in this semi-virtual world instead of being out there in school, at the station, or just on the street.
And you just hang out in front of a monitor all day trying to grab some info. I mean, it's just plain simple. Not to be rude, but that’s probably the simplest way to put it.
Finally, someone said it... regardless of how old you are, props to you for posting this... it was so simple, yet you hit the nail on the head.
Kyle Davis2 said:Instead of all that childish internet posturing where people try to act tough behind a keyboard, maybe just call out your own "supporters" who couldn't even make it to the game yesterday because they couldn't be bothered to walk a few subway stops. What was the excuse? Cloudy skies, $10ticket prices, a family lunch, or catching a rerun of some true crime show? We all know there are over 250 people on the list, and we also know the group has been stripped of its leadership due to bans and fake safety measures imposed on anyone brave enough to fight for our Real Madrid ideals. If you weren't physically prevented from coming to the game, don't you feel a little ashamed leaving your club and your crew out to dry? When 300 people show up in the stands, it’s a massive statement to the handful of people who have spent years fighting against everyone else, standing tall for this club and this group. If hundreds of people can't make it to games, then I guess it becomes an OBLIGATION for anyone who actually can to show up and support the cause. It isn't easy, and it definitely isn't always fun, but maybe that's why it feels even better to show up, dig your heels in like a bulldog, and fight until the very last person.
Bravo, you hit the nail on the head. That key question is: do you have any shame?
But honestly, the main issue is those folks who stay glued to their phones constantly talking about who said what, who got into a scrap, how many of ours showed up versus the hired help... yet they avoid the stadium like the plague. But hey, as soon as it's time to hang out on blue nights or show up at meetings and tournaments, suddenly they're all ears. Basically, they're everywhere except where you actually need to show some backbone.
Maybe just copy Kyle Davis2's text and paste it directly into your brain.
Just a side note for those on the blacklist: being on that list doesn't mean you shouldn't show up in front of the stadium and stand with the people before and after the game.
Now go ahead and keep up with the sociological analyses and the endless excuses for the low turnout—like security checkpoints, checking IDs, broken truces, people getting fed up, slow entry gates, or whatever other nonsense you want to throw out there.
Dana Martinez8 said:Those guys broke the truce, everyone knows it. I guess they just couldn't stomach watching us walk through St. one more time. Their eternal complex basically won out over trying to fight the system, and that's just how it goes.
EVERYONE TO MIAMI!!
Don't talk nonsense. If you're just looking for a little stroll through Miami, who's actually going to defend you tomorrow? It seems like it's just for you and anyone else feeling sorry because they won't get their photos by the waterfront or at FIFA next time.
Out of 400 people at the last Hard Rock Stadium game back on Dec 18, 2013, maybe 100 were actually there—and honestly, nobody had seen half of them in two or three years, or they only show up once every leap year. Then suddenly, they all appear because they want to see the boardwalk. Funny how a weekday at 4:00 PM didn't bother them then, right?
It’s pretty sad that so many people from both our side and the rival side treated the truce as nothing more than an excuse to wander around their rival's downtown, which, of course, doesn't seem to cross their minds now that the truce is over.
P.S. Since you're calling those guys out for breaking the truce, just keep in mind that the leaders of the Bad Blue Boys probably couldn't stand watching another little walk by the water either.
Best to everyone!
I wasn't even surprised that my post would trigger all this talk about picking games, people living 186 miles outside of Chicago, counting attendance, complaining about not being able to make every match, or labeling people as posers. I’m honestly shocked nobody mentioned the moody stares or the kids in tracksuits, white sneakers, and Fred Perry shirts.
Since I apparently have to spell it out... obviously, someone living outside of Chicago 124 miles isn't going to be there every single week (with exceptions, I guess), and life happens—work, family, money issues, and stuff like that.
As for casual fans versus the die-hards, I don't have any beef with anyone. I don't look down on anybody. I don't care if someone lives in Chicago and can't make every game, either. I mean, a casual fan is still probably more dedicated than the specific people my post was actually talking about.
My post was specifically calling out "Pero," who lives right here in Chicago. He spends his Saturday afternoons doing whatever he wants, he's definitely not broke, and he used to be part of the core group a few years back. But now? He doesn't show up to matches because maybe Mamić ruined it for him, or maybe he's just over it. He's been MIA for 20 or 30 games straight... but the second there's a big trip to "Paris, Vienna, or Amsterdam," suddenly everything is fine, and "Pero" grabs his passport and heads for Europe. Maybe he'll show up to one local game before or after the trip just so people don't notice he's gone, and then it's "ciao, guys" until the next big Champions League away leg.
I don't really care if some guy from the suburbs who was never a real fan goes to Amsterdam just because he saw Dinamo is playing and wants a vacation, but I just can't wrap my head around people like "Pero." Not to mention the crowd that travels for more European away games in a season than they do for local games, even at Yankee Stadium. So, what's with all the counting?
I think I'll stop replying now. It feels like I'm trying to defend the fact that 2+2=4.
I get all five, but "Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam" are even further from "Chicago," so it's even more likely you won't get in. Only about 120 people go, whereas 500 could fit there.
It just shows how little people here get it, even the ones who attend games. In a thread about Western Europe, someone posted a link saying pyrotechnics were legalized in Norwegian stadiums, and I think a guy under the name "Spectator" wrote what I think is the only sensible thing said: that one smuggled flare is worth more than ten of those legal ones in Norway. And the kid got attacked from every angle—called a hypocrite and all that. Saying "legalize pyro" doesn't literally mean we want them to hand us flares; it means we shouldn't be treated like we're smuggling grenades into the stadium. Honestly, if pyrotechnics were legalized tomorrow, we probably wouldn't even light them first. We have weddings and BBQs for that kind of stuff.
Cheers to everyone... the moody stares, the loudmouths, the kids with telescopes, the outsiders, and the nobodies alike.
redjackal8 said:People are getting arrested mostly because there aren't many of us; if there were 50 people, they wouldn't know what to do with them. But whatever, it's an annual thing—we'll head to Amsterdam, hit the clubs, see some girls, and just get out there.
I guess if things hadn't turned against us before Unešić, the numbers would actually be higher. You know as well as I do that right now it’s not even about wanting to go, it’s about whether you can even sneak into the stadium unnoticed. But anyway, you hit the nail on the head—we're heading to Eindhoven, and before that, we'll be partying in Amsterdam or Frankfurt... just to see the world, I suppose. It’s crazy to me how people who show up maybe three or four times a year for domestic games suddenly have the nerve to show up for these European away trips. Like, do they have any shred of morals left? Don't they feel a little embarrassed showing up among the people who are grinding it out week in and week out? Our group, which has been together since the summer of 2010, and especially since 2012, is going through its toughest days ever. Maybe even tougher than when we were trying to rebuild our reputation. Last season, maybe only 200 or 300 people showed up for home games in the East (and that's counting the 60 or so folks on the blacklist, half of whom haven't been active for years), plus we've got about 50 bans and restrictions total... and then these same people turn up for Porto, Paris, Vienna, Sofia, Eindhoven, etc., and act like they belong. And I'm not even talking about the guys from the core group who owe money or the ones the cops grab the second they see them—there are only a handful of those. Don't tell me they're going just to hang out or throw flares in the stands; there are barely any of them either. They're going just to see the sights, I guess. When you see stuff like that, even though our numbers are small, I'd honestly bring back that 2004 practice from Beaver Falls (where you'd show your ticket from the last home game to prove you're legit)—the kind of thing all these self-righteous critics hate so much. Just please, don't start with the "300 real fans" vs "3000 fake ones" talk.
If you don't feel like coming to the regular games, then don't show up when Europe comes around. You just look like clowns and it's a slap in the face to the people who are always here.
Maybe work on your mindset….
betonark said:Shout out to FF and the rest of the young guard.
Remember that old song, "The lights are burning bright in Indianapolis..."? Well, looking back at where things stood then versus where we are now—just thinking about the crowds back in the day compared to today—it’s quite a shift. Don't get me wrong, I'm honestly thrilled to see more people heading back to the games; you can really feel that energy building up again, and seriously, kudos to everyone for that. But maybe we shouldn't get too carried away with the numbers or start saying "never again" just yet. It's still a long way from how it used to be, I guess.
Hey there. Just keeping things moving. I guess "that day" will be here eventually.
I’m not trying to start an argument or lecture you here, but I feel like I should say this—not just to you, but to everyone else who thinks along these lines (and unfortunately, there are quite a few of you). When you used that phrase about how far away certain places are, it really showed me that you don't quite get the mindset of your average Bad Boys supporter. You were probably trying to imply that back in the day, maybe 1,000 of us would have headed down to Indianapolis, who are... 186 miles You guys were all out from Chicago, and now there’s only 350 of you at the stadium right here in our own backyard. I guess that’s what people call "cherry-picking games," but if you ask me, it’s just a total lack of grit. In two weeks when we head out to Indianapolis, I bet more people will show up there than did yesterday in Chicago, and honestly, it's because of that missing mentality. Let's be real: the local suburbs don't have the same vibe—no backyard BBQs or local pub crawls to draw people in like the away trips do. I know at least 30 people who skipped yesterday—not because of work or any trouble with the cops, but they just stayed home and chilled. They’ll definitely be on the bus to Indianapolis just for the tailgating and the roadside stops. Maybe it makes sense if people aren't feeling the club right now, but this has always been an issue with our group, even back when the passion was actually there. As long as we have more people traveling for away games than showing up for home matches in Chicago or the nearby suburbs, we can't really call ourselves a massive, elite supporter group. We’ll reach that level when we have at least 1,000 people at the local stadium, and when the main reason we travel is to stand up against the suits running the club, rather than just chasing a plate of chili and a few beers on the way. I don't mind the perks, but they should be a side note, not the whole point.
Don't just focus on those few fans who have been banned from the stadium by the club. There aren't that many of them, really. I guess most of them wouldn't even show up to home games if they weren't banned anyway—they weren't showing up before all those bans were handed out last summer right before the madness started.
Hey everyone still out there grinding!