Henry Grant51 said:That’s a hell of a story, honestly. Major props...
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The story from the away game is certainly an interesting read, offering a vivid account of what went down that day—like that brawl over at the stadium... though it’s also heavy on personal bias and some pretty blatant misinformation.
Hajduk loses 2-1, and now we’re stuck at the stadium for another two hours while they scrub the streets to deal with the clashes against the Boys trying to push toward the north... It’s worth noting that this marks the first real showdown between the BBB and the police since we gained independence...Look... this is a far cry from the truth and frankly unnecessary for the narrative. There were some incredibly brutal, heavy-duty clashes between groups back in the spring of '93—shattered windows near the West Stand and full-blown skirmishes with security forces stretching from the stadium all the way down through downtown...
After leaving the derby and the South Stand on November 27, 1994, near the stadium during those riots, over 80 people were injured... To me, it felt even more brutal than that bloody clash with Rio...
Of course, that time the East Stand fans breached the perimeter during the Cup final back in May '95... the brawl in the stands and against the police down by the East section was absolutely brutal...
We shouldn't overlook those incredibly brutal clashes with the local crowds during the away games in Pazin back in March '93 and Sisak in September '93. Then there were the riots following the Badel match in April '94, caused by the sheer arrogance of those security guards... it took direct police intervention to finally get things under control...
Taylor Hughes61 said:A new, thrilling, and brutally honest story from 1996. Enjoy... (hopefully without all the unnecessary bickering this time around)...
The guy was a real rogue, which caught me off guard, and you could tell by that refusal to back down... but, forgive me, I'm still riding with his crew, regardless of how much they've struggled lately over in Bergamo and Auxerre... He really went all out for that circus act...I’m actually quite curious to hear why you held such a view of us back in '96...
If you’re basing everything solely on those away game numbers in Split from '92 to '95, then you were being incredibly hypocritical back then... clearly someone was feeding you a line...
I wonder how you viewed that whole circus back in Bratislava with the national team in '94... specifically that whole saga involving the national squad that the BBB group kicked off back then... not to mention all those trips across Europe for handball and basketball where things got pretty wild. Every attempt at making a stand through fan culture was met with heavy-handed policing and security services—think Pips concerts, those underground plays at the Badger in May '94, monument unveilings, the Prljavac concert in September '94, even that stadium fire in March '93, and endless police interrogations...
The official NFL fans stepped up and organized their own travel agency back then—booking flights to places like Lisbon or Mallorca—unlike the BBB crowd, who passed on the opportunity before that 1996 matchup against Spartak Moscow, which D. V. described quite vividly... in his interview with Torcida.org in the early 2000s.
I’ll give credit where it’s due regarding the overall concept, though I have to take issue with how subjective some of these sentences feel. I say this as someone who was actually on the ground during those fan riots back then, just trying to help you out... that "gateway to hell" where you spent the night between Saturday and Sunday, September 21st/22nd, 1996, was called the Zanzibar Night bar... which is exactly where Quentin Tarantino would have filmed something like *From Dusk Till Dawn*... 🤣
Catch you later. We'll grab a beer in Chicago on March 5th... we aren't exactly the type to pull an encore at some local dive bar after a game like back in 2009!