Alex Baker2 said:So, you’re carrying quite the heavy burden, aren't you? You and everyone else like you spend all your time complaining that other people are just whining, yet here you are, constantly preaching about the massive weight on your shoulders and how everyone else does nothing but post on forums. Honestly, why don't you just give us your name? We should all get it tattooed on our arms so the whole world knows exactly what a colossal burden you've been lugging around. Anyway, I'm done. I won't be giving you any more of my time. 😉
Bravo. Now you’re finally getting it. You hit the nail right on the head—that was exactly the point I was trying to make in my original post.
casualrider43 said:I don't actually care who was involved—it’s not hard enough to look that up—but we really need to ask ourselves why these guys are working against their own interests. If you want to act like a loose cannon, go find some field to run around in instead of trashing the positive energy we've built and blowing this whole truce. Get this: ten people just managed to wreck a peace agreement that connects more than fifty people across all the different supporter groups. --------------------- Look, talking about breaking the truce now is pointless because the damage is done; there's no going back. But I had to say it: that move played right into the hands of the mob. If you have questions, hit me up in the DMs.
So, you claim you don't know who they were, yet you feel entitled to declare war on everyone involved without knowing their identities, their standing within their respective groups, what they've sacrificed for the cause, or the weight they carry on their shoulders for the sake of the collective. You aren't even embarrassed to be fueling this conflict for days on end, neither yourself nor anyone else. Honestly, if you had any respect for the situation, you'd tip your hat to those guys. Instead, we get this "truce" nonsense followed by days of nothing but whining. It’s pathetic to hold people accountable for things they weren't even present for.
casualrider43 said:I couldn't agree more. In Switzerland, they’re all shouting about how united fans will somehow rescue American soccer from this absolute swamp of a situation—and then, just two weeks later, the entire state of the game goes down the drain at 3 PM. I honestly have to wonder who these people think they are. By what right are they breaking the truce that 95% of Americans actually support? It’s pathetic. Just a frustrated little bottom-feeder who thinks the world revolves around them.
Hold on a second. You claim to be part of the Bad Boys, yet you don't even know which guys were actually involved in the conflict?! Hahaha, the characters we get on this forum are unbelievable.
Anonymous said:People are out here risking their families, their careers, and putting their actual names and faces on the line for the police and everyone else, only to have some amateur hired guns just cross them off a list. No offense intended, but there’s a standard that needs to be maintained. We are pushing toward a higher purpose here, and once we get there, let the lightweight losers deal with each other while the heavy hitters handle the real business. Let's not act like fools and fall for this; we are so incredibly close!🙂
What "hired guns"? Hahaha. Seriously, what do you even have to do with the fans?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around what happened during that last meeting. It felt like we were circling the drain without ever actually hitting bottom. Honestly, some of the decisions being made right now feel less like strategic moves and more like desperate attempts to stay relevant. I’ve seen better management at a local corner store. We need to stop pretending everything is fine when the cracks are clearly visible to anyone with eyes. [User Name] says: Me. The guy breaking the truce right now is acting exactly like some veteran in a VA hospital. As far as those two go, I know for a fact that Mamić is absolutely thrilled with them.
Do you even have a clue what actually went down here, or why things reached this breaking point? What’s the word in the papers today? Or are you just playing the part of the armchair expert, trying to act like you know it all? Is everyone here? And one more thing. Dugi is nothing but a traitor who tried to shut down the Bad Boys group along with everyone else. Working with his boss? Please. There’s absolutely nothing legendary about that.
analogheron19 said:When any group shows up to an away game in massive numbers, it’s a direct slap in the face to those scumbags. It’s on every single fan to step up and handle their business. Period.
You hit the nail on the head—everything you said is spot on. That being said, I still think there needs to be some level of respect for the hierarchy within the group.
Kimberly Turner4 said:I honestly find it baffling that you, acting like some seasoned veteran, think you can just force people to show up in forty-eight hours. Look, I’m not blaming you personally. Nobody ever achieved anything by being a total pessimist. If you haven't been working for anyone outside your tiny little inner circle for three years, there isn't even a point in wondering if people will eventually show up.
So, you've spent three whole years catering to a handful of buddies. Great.
I've noticed some people have been trying to steer the conversation toward certain topics, but honestly? You should just ignore this. There’s plenty of noise out there, but let's stick to what actually matters. [User] says: It’s honestly about time we decide on a date to finally close this thread.
Look, everyone needs to wrap their heads around one simple reality: just because someone speaks under the banner of a group, an organization, or a political party, it doesn't mean they speak for the whole damn thing. An individual's opinion isn't a collective mandate. One person's take doesn't automatically represent the entire organization. Period.
I honestly don't get it. Suddenly, there are over 50,000 people flooding this place, yet the second we try to discuss anything else, everyone just vanishes. It’s deafeningly quiet.
Let’s be honest: about 99% of the posts here are just pure trolling, mindless mockery, or unadulterated nonsense. It’s honestly exhausting. I’d suggest that anyone who has posted anything in the last 18 hours takes a moment to actually use their brain before hitting "send"—assuming there's even a thought process happening behind those screens in the first place.
Look, smoking stuff like this isn't some new phenomenon—it certainly wasn't the first time we've seen it, and it definitely won't be the last. The real issue this time around? It's that the naive crowd and the fools are falling hook, line, and sinker for the media spin. They’re blowing this whole thing out of proportion just to keep the cycle going forever.
Regarding the upcoming derby, I’d advise everyone to give some serious thought to Sunday—not just about getting to the stadium, but what happens once we’re actually there. I don't think the rival fans or any of that other trash are stupid enough to miss an opportunity to escalate things. My take? A huge chunk of us will make it to the stands, but a smaller group is likely going to be cordoned off. That alone is enough to crank up the tension for us and for the opposing supporters. We all know that even when there's a "truce" in place, there’s always that underlying friction between the two sides. This is exactly the kind of opening those guys will try to exploit to stir up some absolute chaos. Honestly, it would serve them perfectly right now if the two biggest factions in the city ended up at each other's throats inside Yankee Stadium. What I'm really trying to get at is this: whatever happens, we cannot afford to take the bait. If we react poorly to those provocations from the opposition, then everything we've done up to this point has been a complete waste of time.
If I were to add one thing to this discussion, it’s that both sides need to play this smart. Whether it was intentional or just a coincidence, the authorities suddenly started handing out jail time for minor infractions under the fan conduct laws right before the big derby. We really need to use our heads here—nobody wants to end up behind bars over something trivial.
nimblecobra42 said:Look, just dial it back with these mindless posts. You're exhausting everyone here. If you have such an issue with the people heading off to basic training next week, why don't you go find them in person and tell them everything you've been whining about?
We really ought to implement a rule where anyone who wasn't actually there—say, at the old stadium out west back when we had a hundred people showing up, or down in Vegas during the big rally—gets some kind of label. It would be useful just to know who we’re actually talking to: who was in the trenches, who’s just watching from the sidelines, and who’s merely a sympathizer.
We’ve got maybe a hundred people actually out there on the front lines carrying the heavy lifting, and as long as we keep operating like that, we aren't winning this fight. Cheers, everyone—enjoy the ride. It won't be long before Mamić is history. He's finished.
I am sick to death of this constant sugarcoating. I’m not trying to paint a pretty picture or lie to myself here; I’m just stating the cold, hard facts. My hope is that maybe, just maybe, the idiots sitting on their hands pretending they don't see what's happening will finally get a reality check. I want them to actually stand with us so we don't end up with twenty-five people facing legal trouble just because someone decided to shout too loud. But no. It never works that way. One local high school game happens and suddenly five hundred people show up looking for trouble, drugs, and chaos, acting like they own the streets. Tick tock.
Timothy Allen60 said:...Still fighting all the battles Hands in my pockets, just laughing... ...Dreams might be lies, but at least here I'll become the master of the world...
Who cares? If they kick us out of the stands, we'll take it to the streets. I don't give a damn what they think.
MAMIĆ ☕
Look, quit messing with me. If someone reading this wasn't completely clueless, they'd think we were total chaos—like some lunatic gang tearing up half the city every weekend. Real street fighters, right? But honestly, looking back at that last big derby from three and a half years ago, we were actually there. What "dead streets"? There were fifty of us out there.
Raymond King47 said:Is having 150 people show up at Locomotive really considered anything less than a total disaster?Then why even bother showing up to the games? It’s exhausting—just endless, mindless chatter and nothing but nonsense. Why are you all posting this garbage anyway? You really think anyone is going to go out and ask Eric Phillips52, the hardcore fans, or some random guy off the street if there’s going to be a protest or not? If something happens, people will know. The numbers don't matter to us. Even looking back at the game against Iceland, everything was handled perfectly, from the atmosphere to the media coverage. We already know that when it counts, more people will show up than all of you combined. You can sit there and mock Jesse Campbell like idiots, but he’ll pull a bigger crowd to that protest by himself than the entire section we sit in. Do you want to know why? Because of the positive energy. Anyone who isn't standing with us clearly missed the boat, and that's exactly how we ended up where we are today. I will say one thing, though: that song is a bit too heavy to sing along to. But please, continue with your stupidity. See you out on the streets.
It’s a complete disaster, obviously. How could it be anything else when 80% of the "real" fans are just sitting at home or hanging out in some local dive bar while those of us who actually showed up are left to suffer? But hey, since the streets are crawling with nothing but crime, drugs, and theft, I guess we can expect about 500 people to show up just pretending they’re Bad Boys.
Jesse Campbell said:Total nonsense. The last match against the Volunteers proved this crew doesn't know how to quit. There was a massive crowd over on the East Side. Even with just the core group, you’ll always pull in another 600 or 700 people, and once the dust settles, the numbers actually grow. Look, I get it—some people don't want to show up to the stadium like they're walking into Auschwitz. If I can wrap my head around that at 41, I don't understand why you younger guys are so hyper-charged about it.
Every time they realize they haven't achieved anything, they step on the gas and ramp up the repression, but everything has its breaking point. They’re running out of room to maneuver. At this rate, their only option left is to start shooting people. In my view, we haven't even begun the real fight against this crackdown alongside the other groups. This mass avoidance of arrests is a huge tactical move. We have to realize we're operating as guerrillas. And while we maintain that guerrilla mindset at the stadium and on the streets, we simultaneously have to wage a propaganda war and, of course, a legal one.
Slow down... Everything will fall into place. It's obvious you didn't live through the 90s, back when the group operated even more underground despite the repression being lighter; back then, sending 100 people to an away game was considered a massive success.
I honestly can’t stand this protest nonsense. Seriously, look back at our last attempt to take on the mob—it was an absolute train wreck. Think about it before you jump into this one. We had maybe 200 people showing up total, and our core group? Barely 30. Between the Armada, the Demons, Kohorta, and the Ultras, we couldn't even get 50 actual bodies in one place. And then there's Jesse Campbell, talking big about 10,000 people filling up the square... haha, yeah, right. The only way we'd see those numbers is if we were handing out free whiskey, lines of coke, and hosting strip clubs on every corner.
Austin Watson38 said:The most confusing part for me is that you just can't seem to fix the security situation. I honestly can't wrap my head around it. It makes zero sense to me.🤷
What exactly don't you get? We have maybe 50 to 100 people actually pulling the strings, doing the heavy lifting, setting the stage, and putting in the work. Meanwhile, you've got all the other clowns on Facebook, the forums, and in the local bars who think they're geniuses from the sidelines or are just sitting there being completely useless.
ruggedridge47 said:If people hadn't been pushed away even before the United States stepped in, our numbers would be significantly higher. You know as well as I do that our current situation isn't about whether you actually want to show up; it's about whether you can even sneak into the stadium unnoticed. But let's move past that—you hit the nail on the head regarding the main point. We’re heading to Eindhoven, and before that, there’ll be some time spent wandering around Amsterdam or Frankfurt… just to see where the road takes us. Two weeks ago, the authorities imposed those voucher systems on us, and suddenly a trip to a local game costs $120 per person (counting everyone, including those who actually made it in and those who didn't), instead of at least 500 of us heading out purely out of spite. It honestly fascinates me how people who show up maybe three or four times a year to domestic games—some even less—have the audacity to turn up when European away trips roll around. Do they have even a shred of moral backbone? Do they feel even a hint of shame appearing among the people who are fighting tooth and nail every single week? This group, which has been together since the summer of 2010, and especially since 2012, is living through its toughest days in history. It might even be harder than back when we were rebuilding our reputation. Last season, only about 200 to 300 people showed up for home games in cities like Seattle or Chicago (keeping in mind there were only about 60 people on the blacklist, and half of those haven't been active for years), and we're dealing with roughly 50 bans and security measures combined... and then these folks show up for Porto, Paris, Vienna, Sofia, Eindhoven, etc., and act like they belong. And I’m not talking about the guys from the fourth bank who went into debt for the group, or the ones the FBI picks up the second they're spotted—there are only a handful of those. Don't tell me they're going just to hook up or throw flares into the stands. There are barely any of them either. They go just to see the world, plain and simple. When you see stuff like that, even though our numbers are small, I’d bring back that practice from the 2004 era a hundred times over (where you show your ticket from previous home games to get in)—the very practice that all these self-righteous moralists are so outraged by. Please, don't start with your "300 real fans" vs. "3,000 tourists" nonsense. If you don't feel like coming to the regular matches, then don't bother showing up when Europe comes around. You're making fools of yourselves and spitting in the faces of the people who are here every single time.
Fix your mindset….
I can't remember the last time I read a post that was smarter, more realistic, and better than this. ☕