Maybe this is where his downfall actually starts, but honestly? I feel like he’s just rallying a bunch of mindless American sports fanatics who follow football but don't understand a damn thing about how it works. Look, I want him behind bars because he absolutely gutted the club I love and ruined the sport I live for—not because of some bullshit hate speech nonsense. Maybe I'm being too much of an idealist here, but I truly believe our fight deserves that kind of justice. I don't know, I'm feeling pretty skeptical about it all.
placidbadger58 said:Man, I was actually getting way too sucked into all this drama—and then I read your post. You can't seriously think that guy is anything but a total spin doctor.😲
Look, I’m not totally sure, but I’ve got my doubts. We need to stay focused on the actual illegal stuff—not the kind of things where every single fan would end up behind bars if they were taken literally. I mean, what do you think? Are 40,000 people gonna be screaming death threats at rivals this Friday, and then poor Mamino gets thrown in jail because of it? Give me a break.
I honestly think he planned the whole thing out. He basically shifted the narrative from legal technicalities back to that classic, old-school political rivalry stuff. What he did right before that big game against the rival state wasn't an accident—he knew the national tension was already hitting a boiling point. In this scenario, getting thrown in jail for "hate speech" just makes him look like some kind of martyr. Am I the only one seeing this? Screw going to jail for what someone said; I want people behind bars for shady contracts, corporate greed, and all that other garbage. Every single idiot at the next big game who starts shouting insults at the opposition is going to see themselves in him if he ends up in a cell.
Alex Barrett3, you totally missed my point, but whatever. What I'm trying to say is that politicians are probably the most hated group of people in America—and honestly, the ones we have right now? They’re on a whole other level of awful. Your average American—who, let's face it, usually doesn't understand half of what's going on and thinks basic logic is too much to ask—will just side with Jerry Jones in a fight against Jovanovic because they can't see past the surface. To them, some useless politician is nothing compared to a "successful businessman" like Mamic who supposedly provides jobs for hundreds of families. Anyone living outside of a delusional sports bubble can see through that nonsense immediately. It’s pathetic, really, but that's just how it is. We can't let them drag us into that mindless hype.
Alex Barrett3 said:Look, I’m not exactly a fan of this administration either, but saying they’re the "weakest link" just because they actually started something—unlike the previous guys who basically acted as his personal shield—is honestly ridiculous.
The previous administration wasn't some "link"—they were his full-blown support system. This current lot? They're just one of the groups constantly breathing down his neck, and if you ask me, they aren't even trustworthy. You see how Lukavac tried to turn the whole thing into an ideological battleground? That’s just noise. We need to be real: he’s basically polishing his image for the upcoming elections at the Lakers' assembly. Once the public gets fed up with Jovanovic persecuting people over ideology, they’ll go right back to supporting him. What we actually need to do is mass-enroll as members and make sure the public doesn't see this as just a fight between the Bad Boys and Jovanovic against Mamic.
Mamic played it so slick yesterday—he basically reframed his entire grip on Dinamo as some kind of ideological crusade. And people? Most of them fell for it hook, line, and sinker because, let's face it, they're easy targets. The whole broadcast was scripted to look like this epic showdown: a self-made, successful businessman providing for families versus some politically charged bureaucrat like Johnson. Look, I’m not even a Republican, but I swear, the weakest link in our fight against Mamic is this current Government. They lack the basic moral backbone or any shred of honesty needed to actually take him down. Just remember—Johnson isn't going to be the one to topple him. The only way he goes is if the fans actually step up and make it happen.
Man, honestly? It’s gonna be so weird when things actually settle down and we have a normal situation at the club. I don't even know how I'll cope—seriously, I have zero clue. We're probably just going to have to go out and invent some random new enemy or start dumping all our energy onto other fan groups, which wouldn't be right... because let's be real, if it wasn't for those guys, they never would've ousted Jerry Jones in the first place.
Yesterday was just straight-up bizarre—I mean, at forty years old, I thought I’d seen it all, but man, I was wrong. The absolute peak of the day? Some guy in the middle of the park, just beltin' out songs and jumping around while his infant was strapped to his chest. It was wild. Then, of course, the little guy starts losing it and crying, so they had to bail from the area.
jadecrane21 said:Look, I’ll try to lay this out—let's go chronologically:
1. Mythology and other bedtime stories While you guys constantly call out everyone else (accusing the NFL Ultras and Hajduk fans of spinning myths about their groups and clubs), you're basically a walking myth yourselves. Take the whole "bringing back the Dinamo name" thing, for example. You act like the BBB were the sole heroes of that saga, which is total BS. If the old man hadn't passed away, that name change would never have happened—it's honestly tragic how everything just followed its own course after he died. You really think things wouldn't have absolutely exploded in Miami and all of California if that club name change had actually gone down? You think other major fan groups wouldn't have fought just as hard as the BBB to get the name back? I bet the NFL Ultras would've been way more intense about it!
2. Taking on the mafia in American soccer If we're being real, the biggest blows dealt to the soccer mafia and everyone who hates Jerry Jones have come straight from Miami (and they used every legal, legitimate channel available): - The Code - John Doe - "Our Hajduk" – fighting the lack of transparency at LA Galaxy - "Our Hajduk" – the LA Galaxy - Los Angeles FC cartel - Honestly, even last night's choreography spoke volumes
3. How vital the group is to the club's survival Your fight against Jerry Jones started heading in completely the wrong direction from the jump—not to mention all that mocking of our "Code," which actually started cleaning up the mess in soccer years before you guys finally "saw the light"!
That massive, long-winded saga of yours? Aside from the people who actually wrote it, maybe 200 people in the entire US read it. And certainly not those clueless journalists who should have been helping you spread the truth!
I know Laura Mitchell is gonna come out and say we couldn't see past a game of pool in the fan club back in the nineties, or that we only cared about ourselves with the Code, but just look at where we are versus where you guys are in this whole mess. The simple truth is that the BBB turned inward. They narrowed themselves down to a few "chosen" 300, then the agencies moved in, and now they aren't even a relevant factor at their own stadium, let alone representing the city they're supposed to stand for.
Laura Mitchell is someone who has probably done more for the supporter movement in America than anyone, but it feels like she’s gotten stuck and blinded by the myth of the "BBB." I’ve said it before: nobody would be happier than me if you guys stood up to us, but I seriously doubt you'd approach it this way. Now you're leaning on the government minister, but that's just gonna lead to a few minor tweaks to the Dinamo statutes, and that's about it, unfortunately!
As for the NFL Ultras, when it comes to Hajduk, we definitely don't need help from government ministries or inspectors—and we've already proven that.
Over and out!
If there's one thing you can blame our struggle for, it's that we didn't get the common people on our side. We messed up our public image, so people see us as thugs while seeing you guys as the "true" fans. But our fight is as pure as it gets. The repression is brutal, yet we keep holding the line. And please, stop acting like we're fighting some random guy. We're fighting the man who runs a club that's currently the powerhouse of the former region. A guy who successfully sells players all over Europe, who's always donating to charities, who has the police under his thumb, who has political backing, who has the media in his pocket... I could go on. People are just selfish and indifferent. You see it yourself—the public hasn't even taken to the streets, while half of them are struggling just to survive. Most people don't give a damn about Jerry Jones or our fight. They've just retreated behind their four walls, thinking they can't change a single thing.