Posts by Steven Clark2

James Lee77 said:Picked up some Strauss / Cropsey at a local book fair recently, specifically History of Political Philosophy for $33. It’s usually way pricier, and since it's over 600 pages, I feel like I scored a pretty sweet deal. I kind of pick at it whenever I can—the chapter on Plato (by Leo Strauss) was super solid, and now I'm working my way through Cicero. I also grabbed some stuff on Cyprus lately, specifically Thoughts on Ethics, which I actually studied pretty intensely, so I wanted to have my own copy. Plus, I got that Barbarić book on Schelling. Honestly, though, since my apartment is tiny, I try to donate more books than I actually buy.

Well, if I may offer some advice, you should really switch over to PDF, EPUB, DJVU, or MOBI formats; they take up much less space in an apartment. 😁 By the way, I assume this history of political philosophy is a translation from English?

Joseph Murphy10 said:I use all sorts of stuff. Instagram too. Got a blog, though I rarely write anything. Had a website once but killed it. Honestly, this forum is probably the thing I use least—being here feels like some weird glitch in the space-time continuum.

Dostoevsky's worldview
(In America, it’s been translated twice as Dostoevsky spirit and Dostoevsky vision)

I felt that with Tolstoy and especially Dostoevsky. But that same spirit runs through other authors too—Gogol, Pushkin, Turgenev...

Then there's Solovyov. His street in NYC survived both Black and Red dictatorships. But it didn't survive "democracy." Some folks might think he was just some random Russian general.

You mentioned WWII. Given everything that went down on the Eastern Front, I personally consider von Manstein to be the first real Wehrmacht general. He was the only one with the guts to shave Hitler's mustache like he was just some lowly corporal.

Look, I’m obviously out of my league here talking to someone who actually knows their stuff—I just know a thing or two about naval combat during WWII—but man, I’ve gotta say, I’m seriously impressed by Rokossovsky. Seems to me the guy was a legit legendary general.

I'm not particularly fond of that idea; it’s high time you started visiting us a bit more frequently. 😛 Facebook isn't really meant for serious people like us. 😁

Joseph Murphy10 said:I use all sorts of stuff. Instagram too. Got a blog, though I rarely write anything. Had a website once but killed it. Honestly, this forum is probably the thing I use least—being here feels like some weird glitch in the space-time continuum.

Dostoevsky's worldview
(In America, it’s been translated twice as Dostoevsky spirit and Dostoevsky vision)

I felt that with Tolstoy and especially Dostoevsky. But that same spirit runs through other authors too—Gogol, Pushkin, Turgenev...

Then there's Solovyov. His street in NYC survived both Black and Red dictatorships. But it didn't survive "democracy." Some folks might think he was just some random Russian general.

You mentioned WWII. Given everything that went down on the Eastern Front, I personally consider von Manstein to be the first real Wehrmacht general. He was the only one with the guts to shave Hitler's mustache like he was just some lowly corporal.

Look, I’m obviously out of my league here talking to someone who actually knows their stuff—I just know a thing or two about naval combat during WWII—but man, I’ve gotta say, I’m seriously impressed by Rokossovsky. Seems to me the guy was a legit legendary general.

I don't have that one, but if you happen to be interested in Dostoevsky's Problems of Poetics by Bakhtin in PDF format, let me know. 😉

Joseph Murphy10 said:I use all sorts of stuff. Instagram too. Got a blog, though I rarely write anything. Had a website once but killed it. Honestly, this forum is probably the thing I use least—being here feels like some weird glitch in the space-time continuum.

Dostoevsky's worldview
(In America, it’s been translated twice as Dostoevsky spirit and Dostoevsky vision)

I felt that with Tolstoy and especially Dostoevsky. But that same spirit runs through other authors too—Gogol, Pushkin, Turgenev...

Then there's Solovyov. His street in NYC survived both Black and Red dictatorships. But it didn't survive "democracy." Some folks might think he was just some random Russian general.

You mentioned WWII. Given everything that went down on the Eastern Front, I personally consider von Manstein to be the first real Wehrmacht general. He was the only one with the guts to shave Hitler's mustache like he was just some lowly corporal.

Look, I’m obviously out of my league here talking to someone who actually knows their stuff—I just know a thing or two about naval combat during WWII—but man, I’ve gotta say, I’m seriously impressed by Rokossovsky. Seems to me the guy was a legit legendary general.

To be quite honest, I haven't read much of those Russian classics myself. My wife, on the other hand, claims she has read absolutely everything. I have always been preoccupied with other matters. 😁

Joseph Murphy10 said:I use all sorts of stuff. Instagram too. Got a blog, though I rarely write anything. Had a website once but killed it. Honestly, this forum is probably the thing I use least—being here feels like some weird glitch in the space-time continuum.

Dostoevsky's worldview
(In America, it’s been translated twice as Dostoevsky spirit and Dostoevsky vision)

I felt that with Tolstoy and especially Dostoevsky. But that same spirit runs through other authors too—Gogol, Pushkin, Turgenev...

Then there's Solovyov. His street in NYC survived both Black and Red dictatorships. But it didn't survive "democracy." Some folks might think he was just some random Russian general.

You mentioned WWII. Given everything that went down on the Eastern Front, I personally consider von Manstein to be the first real Wehrmacht general. He was the only one with the guts to shave Hitler's mustache like he was just some lowly corporal.

Look, I’m obviously out of my league here talking to someone who actually knows their stuff—I just know a thing or two about naval combat during WWII—but man, I’ve gotta say, I’m seriously impressed by Rokossovsky. Seems to me the guy was a legit legendary general.

Still, he is Manstein. 😁 He isn't quite the legendary general he portrays himself to be, nor is he quite the icon others make him out to be. He made several significant blunders that cost many Wehrmacht soldiers their lives on the Eastern Front.

Joseph Murphy10 said:I use all sorts of stuff. Instagram too. Got a blog, though I rarely write anything. Had a website once but killed it. Honestly, this forum is probably the thing I use least—being here feels like some weird glitch in the space-time continuum.

Dostoevsky's worldview
(In America, it’s been translated twice as Dostoevsky spirit and Dostoevsky vision)

I felt that with Tolstoy and especially Dostoevsky. But that same spirit runs through other authors too—Gogol, Pushkin, Turgenev...

Then there's Solovyov. His street in NYC survived both Black and Red dictatorships. But it didn't survive "democracy." Some folks might think he was just some random Russian general.

You mentioned WWII. Given everything that went down on the Eastern Front, I personally consider von Manstein to be the first real Wehrmacht general. He was the only one with the guts to shave Hitler's mustache like he was just some lowly corporal.

Look, I’m obviously out of my league here talking to someone who actually knows their stuff—I just know a thing or two about naval combat during WWII—but man, I’ve gotta say, I’m seriously impressed by Rokossovsky. Seems to me the guy was a legit legendary general.

I wouldn't call myself an expert either—far from it—but I have read extensively on the subject, certainly ten times more than I have on philosophy. Rokossovsky was a top-tier general in WWII; I know quite a bit about him, but let us try not to stray too far from the topic of philosophy.

Emily Davis65 said:I once had a professor who read so voraciously that he could practically cycle through several different women in a single day. To be honest, he just didn't have enough saliva to turn those massive, heavy pages, so he had to resort to some rather drastic measures—he’d end up sticking his index fingers into vaginas. 🎉 Now, I'm not entirely sure how much truth there is to those claims about reading 300 pages a day, but I know for a fact that I always felt a certain sense of discomfort whenever I tried it. I suppose it might stem from my own narrow perspectives; I tend to operate under this assumption that people simply don't have the mental capacity to process that much information at once. Generally speaking, I struggle to see the point in reading anything that doesn't force you to think deeply, question your assumptions, dig deeper, or push yourself out of your comfort zone. To me, the whole essence of reading is about absorbing the lived experiences of others in a way that stimulates us in various ways. If we're just churning through 300 pages every single day, we aren't leaving any room for that actual stimulation; we’re basically just reading so we can claim we’ve read.

I know people for whom reading even three pages a week feels like actual hell. 😁 Forget about average folks who view reading 20 pages a day as a monumental achievement worthy of Olympic gold; here, we are talking about elite students and professors who can digest a few hundred pages without breaking a sweat. I asked a friend the other day how long it takes him to get through roughly 200 to 300 pages. Here is what he said:replied. He clarified exactly what he meant. Personally, I can breeze through a hundred pages a day if I really get into a groove and find my rhythm, but I’m certainly not at that elite level where I can knock out 200 or more. I don't recall ever managing to push past the 200-page mark. Perhaps it's because certain history books just resonate with me more deeply, though I couldn't say for sure.

It seems they finally heard me.



While this isn't exactly Philosophy in two volumes, this first installment starts from the very bottom.

Joseph Murphy10 said:Damn right.
And where the hell is the face

Sent from my Galaxy S10 using Reddit

Are you seriously still using Facebook? 🤣

Joseph Murphy10 said:heheeh...

being a true Frenchman, he'd probably pick the Bolognese every time 🙂

If you're looking for something else, I’d recommend that new book on Paul by Tom Wright. He reconstructs his life based on the dynamics of the Acts and the Epistles—it follows a different timeline than most authors since Tom has spent so much time studying Paul—but what hooked me was how he views everything through the eyes of an ordinary guy. Just a regular Joe who experienced a bit of that "singularity" Badiou writes about...

And man, it gets into the heart of Paul's conflict with Judaism better than anything else I've read. It's deep, it's irreconcilable, and the author really nails that tension on the page.

N. T. Wright. 🙏

Joseph Murphy10 said:Shout out to the big public libraries—just scored a new translation of a famous Berdyayevian work. Spent the whole month just being my

The very first paragraph is pure hype: "Dostoevsky reflects all the contradictions of the Russian spirit, its entire antinomy." Then, while describing this Russian spiritual antinomy, it brings up Leontiev—how a Russian can be a saint without being "decent," because decency is just some petty, bourgeois virtue that doesn't interest a Russian soul, which is basically apocalyptic and nihilistic.

Man, as someone from the coast, I get that perfectly. It’s like what Matvejevic says in the Mediterranean Breviary—how insults on the coast are juicier, and penance runs deeper and more sincere.

It’s like when Saint Jerome said, "Spare me, my lady, for I am a man of the coast."

That’s exactly what I was doing on this forum, fruitlessly defending Madonna by trying to prove she’s got that coastal spirit, whether she’s singing "my lady" or filming one of her videos. It’s all just our Slavic and coastal antinomy. But the Russian version takes the cake. We're just babies compared to them...

Would be nice to have it. But $88

Guess I'll just wait for the interlibrary loan.

I'm not quite sure which work by Berdyayev is being referred to. 😁

Joseph Murphy10 said:Shout out to the big public libraries—just scored a new translation of a famous Berdyayevian work. Spent the whole month just being my

The very first paragraph is pure hype: "Dostoevsky reflects all the contradictions of the Russian spirit, its entire antinomy." Then, while describing this Russian spiritual antinomy, it brings up Leontiev—how a Russian can be a saint without being "decent," because decency is just some petty, bourgeois virtue that doesn't interest a Russian soul, which is basically apocalyptic and nihilistic.

Man, as someone from the coast, I get that perfectly. It’s like what Matvejevic says in the Mediterranean Breviary—how insults on the coast are juicier, and penance runs deeper and more sincere.

It’s like when Saint Jerome said, "Spare me, my lady, for I am a man of the coast."

That’s exactly what I was doing on this forum, fruitlessly defending Madonna by trying to prove she’s got that coastal spirit, whether she’s singing "my lady" or filming one of her videos. It’s all just our Slavic and coastal antinomy. But the Russian version takes the cake. We're just babies compared to them...

Would be nice to have it. But $88

Guess I'll just wait for the interlibrary loan.

Regarding those Russians, the only thing I have studied somewhat is WWII topics. Everything else remains a void to me. However, I understand your point and I agree when you mention the Russian soul. There is certainly something to that idea.

steelridge58 said:There’s something truly exhilarating about traveling with philosophers—whether it’s summer vacations, winter getaways, or just quick weekend trips...
I’ve traveled quite a bit, and honestly, my favorite companions to this day would be Gadamer, R. W. Emerson, Rilke, or even Hamvas—I can almost see myself heading to the beach with him. There are so many others I’d love to bring along on a trip through various cities, where I’d likely track them down in the quietest corners of local bookstores. When picking a book, I always rely on what some have called a "compact with the reader," that instant connection that either clicks or doesn't the very moment you start reading.
Still, that instinct isn't always reliable, and I recently felt a bit misled by Gilles Deleuze when I picked up his work on Bergsonism; the title of the first chapter really hooked me.
Intuition as a method
He argues that intuition isn't just some vague feeling, an inspiration, or some messy sort of sympathy (?), but rather a highly developed method—one of the most sophisticated tools in philosophy—governed by strict rules that produce what Bergson calls philosophical "precision."

That book absolutely kicked my butt.
I just couldn't wrap my head around it; the sentence structures were incredibly dense, the ideas felt confusingly murky and difficult to link together (it wouldn't allow for any kind of "systematic understanding"), and it was packed with references and endnotes. It was written in such a way that it actually made me angry; I was so frustrated with Deleuze that I wanted to tell him straight to his face that he had no clue and that I'd never read anything worse... but then I stopped and wondered (using a bit of that intuition!) if perhaps it was just the translation from French, and now I'm leaning toward believing it might just be a poorly done translation.

p.s. fixed. 🙂

That is quite an impressive reading list, and I must say, I find Gadamer particularly compelling within that collection. As for Deleuze—well, it is certainly a relief he hasn't been canceled yet. 😁 However, you make an excellent point; there are times when I find myself "admiring" translators who somehow manage to make a text far more impenetrable than the original author ever intended. 🙂

I am quite uncertain as to what you might be implying with that single word. If you are attempting to initiate a conversation or perhaps referencing a specific topic, I would most sincerely appreciate it if you could provide a bit more context. I am eager to engage, though I find myself somewhat at a loss without further clarification! The user says:
And they all manage to remember everything perfectly? I have to hand it to them. Truly impressive.

It isn't anything out of the ordinary, really. I actually asked him just half an hour ago how many pages he gets through in a day. Would you like me to send over a screenshot? 😁 I must admit, I was quite taken aback by his response. I realize now that I may have slightly underestimated him.

I might be mistaken, but I find it difficult to believe that even after consuming such an immense volume of content, one can still stumble upon something truly novel. In such a vast sea of books, how is it possible to find a thought or a perspective that hasn't already been encountered? It seems only natural that, as time passes, it becomes increasingly challenging to find material that triggers that genuine spark of discovery. One must sift through endless mountains of text just to catch a glimpse of something truly interesting or original. Ultimately, I suppose it requires a profound, pure love for reading itself.

It certainly can be done. I make a point of reading a wide variety of literature to ensure I’m engaging with different perspectives. Personally, I find I can breeze through about fifty pages of nonfiction without much trouble at all, especially when the subject matter is something I'm already familiar with or deeply interested in. I try to maintain an average of roughly 150 pages a day just to stay sharp. However, if I actually manage to hit that goal, I tend to abandon this forum entirely. I've noticed a pattern: every single time I take a break from these discussions, my reading volume increases significantly.

Amanda Jackson5 said:I found myself getting pretty intrigued by these over the summer, so I ended up downloading them (though I haven't actually cracked them open yet):

-Adam Rutherford: Humanimal - How Homo sapiens Became Nature

-Andrew Krepinevich: 7 Deadly Scenarios - a Military futurist Explores War in The 21 st Century

-Sean Carroll : fra eternity to here - The quest for The Ultimate theory of time

-David Abulafia : The Boundless Sea - a human history of The Oceans

-George M. Young : The Russian Cosmists - The Esoteric Futurism of Nikolai Fedorov and his Followers

-Gernot Wagner, Martin L. Weitzman: Climate Shock - The Economic Consequences of Hotter planet

-James Hamilton : Volcano - Nature and Culture

-Kate C. Langdon, Vladimir Tismaneanu: Putin ’ Totalitarian Democracy - Ideology, Myth, and Violence in The Twenty-First Century - Leonard Susskind : The Black Hole War - my Battle with Stephen Hawking to make The World Safa for Quantum Mechanics

-Leonard Susskind : The Black Hole War - my Battle with Stephen Hawking to make The World Safa for Quantum Mechanics

-Nick Bostrom: superintelligenca - Paths, Dangers, Strategies

-Philip Ball: Universe of Ston - a Biography of Chartres Cathedral

-Richard Holmes: The aga of Wonder - The Romantic Generation and The Discovery of The beauty and Terror of science

-Roy Porter : Madness - a brief history

-Thomas Piketty : capital and Ideology

Thank you for the list, Sigmund. I haven't actually searched for it yet, so I have to ask: what exactly does this book cover? My mind immediately jumped to the issue of so-called environmental migrants—those massive waves of people displaced by major global climate shifts. Some analysts are even predicting that the next great surge of immigration into Canada, the USA, and other nations will be driven by these ecological changes rather than traditional factors like war or economic instability.

I find myself wondering if there is anyone else out there who shares this particular obsession with sailing. There is something profoundly humbling about being at the mercy of the wind and the waves, isn't there? It forces a certain kind of discipline upon you that modern life rarely demands. kaže:
This is an excellent topic; I truly commend you for bringing it up.

My struggle with books is of a different nature entirely. I simply have nowhere left to put them. Between building my house, dealing with mortgage debt, and furnishing several rental properties, I’ve spread myself thin. There is space for everything else in my home, but there is absolutely no room left for my poor, neglected books.

Perhaps a divorce might actually prove beneficial for you? 😁

That is precisely why I opt to pack everything onto several external hard drives. I don't struggle with storage capacity—well, not exactly—since each drive seems to offer significantly more space than the last. There was a time when 500GB or even a single terabyte would have sufficed for my needs, but those days are long gone.

I am truly sorry, but I find myself at a loss. It appears the message you provided consists only of a single word that does not contain any context or content for me to work with. If you could please provide the full text you wish for me to rewrite, I would be more than happy to apply my process to it immediately. kaže:
I have always felt a near-fetishistic devotion to books, and I find it quite difficult to part with them. I am, truth be told, an obsessive-compulsive collector at heart. Because of this, my collection has grown quite extensive, though I lack any proper shelving to house them. Consequently, they end up scattered everywhere—cluttering nightstands, overflowing from bookcases, or tucked away in various cabinets. You might even find them squeezed between a broom and a can of tuna in the pantry, or nestled in the kids' room somewhere between the makeup kits and the Barbie dolls.

It’s a shame. And tell me, do you actually know how easy it would be to just organize all of that into folders? 😁

I find myself wondering if there is anyone else out there who shares this specific fascination. Is there truly no one else? kaže:
Having spent some time working in the medical field, I have accumulated a rather significant collection—perhaps thirty or so books specifically focused on medicine. Beyond that, I own a variety of legal texts, along with a selection of popular fiction from the eighties and various other genres. In total, my library likely holds a hundred volumes, if not more. It is quite a complete collection...You know those ridiculous little games people play—that constant, mindless back-and-forth where everyone is just picking sides and shouting over nothing? It’s all just noise.I currently have my collected works by Dostoevsky, Fromm, Tina Fey—a rare find, truly—and Borges on hand.

I am certainly not trying to belittle any particular author or literary movement, but I must admit that fiction just doesn't seem to click for me. No matter how hard I try, I simply cannot get into reading it.

I find myself wondering if there is anyone else out there who shares this specific fascination with sailing. There is something profoundly meditative about being out on the water, navigating the wind and the waves, that I simply cannot put into words. It is more than just a hobby; it is a pursuit of clarity. As requested:
As for astrology—I’ve actually managed to collect almost everything worth reading published here in America. I have about a hundred different titles printed out and professionally bound, simply because I can't stand reading from a screen.

I completely understand where you're coming from. Perhaps I should start printing some of my own works to import as well; that seems like a brilliant idea. I am just a bit lost on where to begin—I have a few articles scattered around that I consider sacred, but I realize I’ve only made it halfway through, still tethered to a digital screen.

Joseph Murphy10 said:Killer topic, props to you

My issue with books is a different kind of beast entirely. I literally have nowhere left to put them. I’ve been busy building a house, drowning in mortgage payments, flipping some rentals—you name it, I’ve done it—so the house is fully decked out, but there's zero space left for my poor, neglected books >

I've always had this weirdly fetishistic attachment to books—it's hard to let go. I’m a full-blown obsessive collector, so I own a ton of stuff, but since I lack actual shelves, they end up scattered everywhere: shoved in cabinets, sitting on nightstands, piled on side tables, or tucked away between the broom and a can of tuna—or in the kid's room, wedged between makeup and Barbies

I spent some time in the medical field, so I’ve got about 30 books from that world—some legit textbooks, some pop-science stuff. Then there's the 80s fiction era... maybe a hundred titles, maybe more. The heavy hitters too—you know those massive multi-volume sets—I've got the collected works of Dostoevsky, Fromm, Tina Ujevica (a total rarity, white hardcover set), Borges...

Then astrology—pretty much everything worth reading published here in the States, plus a bunch of PDFs I printed and bound because I can't stand staring at a screen... probably another hundred titles

Then theology, dozens of books there. Eventually, theology dragged me into philosophy, and since I don't have a formal degree, my reading is pretty chaotic. I'll stumble into a topic and try to dig deep, or an author will just grab me and I'll buy their entire back catalog. I'm constantly hunting through used bookstores, dragging home new finds that drive my wife crazy. I always have a massive backlog because I get distracted by something new and push my "planned" reading to the side. I keep hoping I'll eventually write an essay or just "post a few thoughts" online, so I figure I better keep my sources close ...

How long does it take to slog through a 500-page philosophy tome? Like, say, Heidegger's battle and time or Kant's critique of pure reason? Hmm... long enough that I barely catch the thread. But then again, I tore through Matulic's metamorphosis of culture—which isn't even strictly philosophy, theology, or sociology, though it hits all three—all 950 pages of that dense stuff in just 15 days.

A buddy of mine, a PhD in philosophy who also happens to be a composer, says he sets a quota for himself: one book a week, on average

Look, it's not polite for me to jump into a new thread first, but what am I supposed to do when I'm this hooked on books? Couldn't resist the temptation >

P. S. I'm huge on Berdyaev. Super interesting guy. I'm actually thinking about trying to link him and Camus—I feel like there's a common thread there that could form its own framework... or maybe try to bring Berdyaev's New Middle Ages down to earth by looking for traces of it in some modern dystopia and seeing if it fits our current world >>

Wait, what? Theology? Dozens of books? Like what, specifically? If you actually possess more than I do, I will gladly bequeath everything I own to you before I pass. 😁

Joseph Murphy10 said:Killer topic, props to you

My issue with books is a different kind of beast entirely. I literally have nowhere left to put them. I’ve been busy building a house, drowning in mortgage payments, flipping some rentals—you name it, I’ve done it—so the house is fully decked out, but there's zero space left for my poor, neglected books >

I've always had this weirdly fetishistic attachment to books—it's hard to let go. I’m a full-blown obsessive collector, so I own a ton of stuff, but since I lack actual shelves, they end up scattered everywhere: shoved in cabinets, sitting on nightstands, piled on side tables, or tucked away between the broom and a can of tuna—or in the kid's room, wedged between makeup and Barbies

I spent some time in the medical field, so I’ve got about 30 books from that world—some legit textbooks, some pop-science stuff. Then there's the 80s fiction era... maybe a hundred titles, maybe more. The heavy hitters too—you know those massive multi-volume sets—I've got the collected works of Dostoevsky, Fromm, Tina Ujevica (a total rarity, white hardcover set), Borges...

Then astrology—pretty much everything worth reading published here in the States, plus a bunch of PDFs I printed and bound because I can't stand staring at a screen... probably another hundred titles

Then theology, dozens of books there. Eventually, theology dragged me into philosophy, and since I don't have a formal degree, my reading is pretty chaotic. I'll stumble into a topic and try to dig deep, or an author will just grab me and I'll buy their entire back catalog. I'm constantly hunting through used bookstores, dragging home new finds that drive my wife crazy. I always have a massive backlog because I get distracted by something new and push my "planned" reading to the side. I keep hoping I'll eventually write an essay or just "post a few thoughts" online, so I figure I better keep my sources close ...

How long does it take to slog through a 500-page philosophy tome? Like, say, Heidegger's battle and time or Kant's critique of pure reason? Hmm... long enough that I barely catch the thread. But then again, I tore through Matulic's metamorphosis of culture—which isn't even strictly philosophy, theology, or sociology, though it hits all three—all 950 pages of that dense stuff in just 15 days.

A buddy of mine, a PhD in philosophy who also happens to be a composer, says he sets a quota for himself: one book a week, on average

Look, it's not polite for me to jump into a new thread first, but what am I supposed to do when I'm this hooked on books? Couldn't resist the temptation >

P. S. I'm huge on Berdyaev. Super interesting guy. I'm actually thinking about trying to link him and Camus—I feel like there's a common thread there that could form its own framework... or maybe try to bring Berdyaev's New Middle Ages down to earth by looking for traces of it in some modern dystopia and seeing if it fits our current world >>

It is never too late to start writing essays. By the way, browsing a used bookstore is a wonderful pastime. I visited one for the first time in my life right here—just a specialized bookshop, nothing else. I was genuinely surprised by the treasures one can find there. Being a fan of the Eastern Front, I picked up a book about the Battle of Stalingrad. I’ve bought three or four identical copies of similar titles, just different editions, directly from a major bookstore to give to friends, but this one was practically mint condition—so I’m keeping it for myself. I noticed a vast amount of other literature that would be worth owning, and the best part is that you can haggle; you can ask for a discount or offer what you can afford, and see how it goes—I’m not sure if it works like that where you are. You’ve given me the idea to visit there at my very first opportunity.

Joseph Murphy10 said:Killer topic, props to you

My issue with books is a different kind of beast entirely. I literally have nowhere left to put them. I’ve been busy building a house, drowning in mortgage payments, flipping some rentals—you name it, I’ve done it—so the house is fully decked out, but there's zero space left for my poor, neglected books >

I've always had this weirdly fetishistic attachment to books—it's hard to let go. I’m a full-blown obsessive collector, so I own a ton of stuff, but since I lack actual shelves, they end up scattered everywhere: shoved in cabinets, sitting on nightstands, piled on side tables, or tucked away between the broom and a can of tuna—or in the kid's room, wedged between makeup and Barbies

I spent some time in the medical field, so I’ve got about 30 books from that world—some legit textbooks, some pop-science stuff. Then there's the 80s fiction era... maybe a hundred titles, maybe more. The heavy hitters too—you know those massive multi-volume sets—I've got the collected works of Dostoevsky, Fromm, Tina Ujevica (a total rarity, white hardcover set), Borges...

Then astrology—pretty much everything worth reading published here in the States, plus a bunch of PDFs I printed and bound because I can't stand staring at a screen... probably another hundred titles

Then theology, dozens of books there. Eventually, theology dragged me into philosophy, and since I don't have a formal degree, my reading is pretty chaotic. I'll stumble into a topic and try to dig deep, or an author will just grab me and I'll buy their entire back catalog. I'm constantly hunting through used bookstores, dragging home new finds that drive my wife crazy. I always have a massive backlog because I get distracted by something new and push my "planned" reading to the side. I keep hoping I'll eventually write an essay or just "post a few thoughts" online, so I figure I better keep my sources close ...

How long does it take to slog through a 500-page philosophy tome? Like, say, Heidegger's battle and time or Kant's critique of pure reason? Hmm... long enough that I barely catch the thread. But then again, I tore through Matulic's metamorphosis of culture—which isn't even strictly philosophy, theology, or sociology, though it hits all three—all 950 pages of that dense stuff in just 15 days.

A buddy of mine, a PhD in philosophy who also happens to be a composer, says he sets a quota for himself: one book a week, on average

Look, it's not polite for me to jump into a new thread first, but what am I supposed to do when I'm this hooked on books? Couldn't resist the temptation >

P. S. I'm huge on Berdyaev. Super interesting guy. I'm actually thinking about trying to link him and Camus—I feel like there's a common thread there that could form its own framework... or maybe try to bring Berdyaev's New Middle Ages down to earth by looking for traces of it in some modern dystopia and seeing if it fits our current world >>

Wow, that is quite a respectable average then; roughly ten days for a 500-page book. Or about 50 pages a day. Ergo, I am certainly no amoeba.

I find myself wondering if there is anyone else out there who shares this particular obsession with sailing. There is something about the discipline required to command a sailboat—the constant negotiation between wind, water, and will—that appeals to my somewhat overly serious nature. It is a pursuit that demands total presence, leaving very little room for the trivial anxieties of daily life. I suppose I am a bit too earnest about it, but I truly believe there is a profound, quiet dignity in mastering the elements. As I have previously noted:
An acquaintance of mine—who happens to be both a PhD in philosophy and a composer—mentioned that you’ve set a goal for yourself to finish one book per week on average.

Is that really all there is to it? And he calls himself a professor? Honestly, I have a profound disdain for the killers I know—those individuals who can churn out two or three hundred pages a day without even breaking a sweat. It’s truly frustrating. 🤦

It is quite something. I have a friend who completed his PhD at Harvard, and he can easily clock twelve hours of reading a day—sometimes even more when the pressure is on. It was genuinely shocking to me. Yet, he insists that his own workload is nothing compared to what his professors go through. He talks about these legendary global intellectuals, and believe me, I know exactly who he means because I’ve read some of them myself. But those professors? They are tearing through ten books a week like it’s absolutely nothing.

My second closest friend—who was actually my best friend back when I lived in Chicago—earned his PhD in philosophy over in England. He told me this story more times than I can count: he would sit down to read around 7:00 or 8:00 in the morning, and that was it. He’d stay glued to that chair through the entire morning, all through lunch, and straight through the afternoon. By the time darkness fell and his wife finally returned home from work, he still hadn't moved an inch from his seat. 🙏 The sheer passion this man possesses for philosophy is nothing short of incredible. When he engages in a discussion—which happens quite easily for him—he undergoes a complete transformation. He becomes an entirely different person. His manner of speaking shifts entirely; he adopts this intense emotional fervor and a level of confidence that is truly striking. I’ve noticed a similar phenomenon among certain NBA players; I remember watching an interview where one athlete explained how professionals become completely different individuals once they step onto the court. Their entire mindset, their posture, their very essence changes. He approached his studies like a man possessed during his graduate years, moving from his Master's through to his PhD. That said, I wouldn't say his doctoral workload was quite as grueling as that of a friend of mine currently pursuing a PhD at the University of Chicago. To prepare for just a single semester, or even a single exam in one subject, my friend has to plow through forty books, sometimes even more. 🙏 He once told me how he’d spend two full pages drafting essays based solely on Amazon reviews and other snippets he found online—it was simply impossible for him to keep up with the actual reading. To be fair, those weren't even major works, just a handful of books; for most of his library, he actually had to sit down and read them. The four of us have known each other since our university days, but while they all went off to conquer the literary world, I spent the last decade immersed in the media industry. I used to work in media quite extensively—it's a third field I know intimately and enjoy, though I never bother posting about it here on the forum. Now, the old hierarchy is shifting. One friend, who finished his PhD in England, can barely manage to read a single chapter a month due to his obligations; he actually gets quite envious when I mention I've made my way through five pages of a book. Then there’s the guy from Toronto. He really needs to stay sharp since he’s wrapping up his PhD in Old Testament studies this year, but the man knows absolutely nothing about philosophy. If he understands anything at all, it’s only the most superficial concepts. The authors and texts he builds his theses upon are utterly saturated with philosophical thought, yet he remains blissfully unaware, and from the looks of it, it's completely irrelevant to his research. When I recently pointed out that you can't achieve depth without philosophy—that no matter how far you go, it's an essential foundation—he didn't even respond. He simply doesn't know it exists. That said, given his mastery of Ancient Greek, Biblical Hebrew, Persian literature, and various ancient manuscripts, one could argue he possesses a level of knowledge that borders on the obsessive. It’s truly surreal. He once called me while my apartment was literally going up in flames—I'm talking five ambulances, four fire trucks, ceilings collapsing, walls crumbling—and I sat there chatting with him for three hours straight. I acted as if nothing were happening, completely unfazed, as if I were entirely alone in the world. You can just imagine the scene.

These are exactly the kind of people I truly relish listening to. Honestly, after spending time talking with some of them, it takes me nearly five days to fully process everything. And then, when you inevitably ask, "So, what did you guys even talk about?" I find myself at a complete loss for words. Even if I managed to recount parts of the conversation, it would be a struggle. There is just so much left swirling inside me that I simply cannot find a way to convey the impression, the experience, or the sheer weight of the moment. I suppose I don’t quite know why.

Joseph Murphy10 said:Killer topic, props to you

My issue with books is a different kind of beast entirely. I literally have nowhere left to put them. I’ve been busy building a house, drowning in mortgage payments, flipping some rentals—you name it, I’ve done it—so the house is fully decked out, but there's zero space left for my poor, neglected books >

I've always had this weirdly fetishistic attachment to books—it's hard to let go. I’m a full-blown obsessive collector, so I own a ton of stuff, but since I lack actual shelves, they end up scattered everywhere: shoved in cabinets, sitting on nightstands, piled on side tables, or tucked away between the broom and a can of tuna—or in the kid's room, wedged between makeup and Barbies

I spent some time in the medical field, so I’ve got about 30 books from that world—some legit textbooks, some pop-science stuff. Then there's the 80s fiction era... maybe a hundred titles, maybe more. The heavy hitters too—you know those massive multi-volume sets—I've got the collected works of Dostoevsky, Fromm, Tina Ujevica (a total rarity, white hardcover set), Borges...

Then astrology—pretty much everything worth reading published here in the States, plus a bunch of PDFs I printed and bound because I can't stand staring at a screen... probably another hundred titles

Then theology, dozens of books there. Eventually, theology dragged me into philosophy, and since I don't have a formal degree, my reading is pretty chaotic. I'll stumble into a topic and try to dig deep, or an author will just grab me and I'll buy their entire back catalog. I'm constantly hunting through used bookstores, dragging home new finds that drive my wife crazy. I always have a massive backlog because I get distracted by something new and push my "planned" reading to the side. I keep hoping I'll eventually write an essay or just "post a few thoughts" online, so I figure I better keep my sources close ...

How long does it take to slog through a 500-page philosophy tome? Like, say, Heidegger's battle and time or Kant's critique of pure reason? Hmm... long enough that I barely catch the thread. But then again, I tore through Matulic's metamorphosis of culture—which isn't even strictly philosophy, theology, or sociology, though it hits all three—all 950 pages of that dense stuff in just 15 days.

A buddy of mine, a PhD in philosophy who also happens to be a composer, says he sets a quota for himself: one book a week, on average

Look, it's not polite for me to jump into a new thread first, but what am I supposed to do when I'm this hooked on books? Couldn't resist the temptation >

P. S. I'm huge on Berdyaev. Super interesting guy. I'm actually thinking about trying to link him and Camus—I feel like there's a common thread there that could form its own framework... or maybe try to bring Berdyaev's New Middle Ages down to earth by looking for traces of it in some modern dystopia and seeing if it fits our current world >>

You aren't alone in that feeling. The real trouble starts when a few of us get completely swept up in a literary obsession. LOL.

Joseph Murphy10 said:Killer topic, props to you

My issue with books is a different kind of beast entirely. I literally have nowhere left to put them. I’ve been busy building a house, drowning in mortgage payments, flipping some rentals—you name it, I’ve done it—so the house is fully decked out, but there's zero space left for my poor, neglected books >

I've always had this weirdly fetishistic attachment to books—it's hard to let go. I’m a full-blown obsessive collector, so I own a ton of stuff, but since I lack actual shelves, they end up scattered everywhere: shoved in cabinets, sitting on nightstands, piled on side tables, or tucked away between the broom and a can of tuna—or in the kid's room, wedged between makeup and Barbies

I spent some time in the medical field, so I’ve got about 30 books from that world—some legit textbooks, some pop-science stuff. Then there's the 80s fiction era... maybe a hundred titles, maybe more. The heavy hitters too—you know those massive multi-volume sets—I've got the collected works of Dostoevsky, Fromm, Tina Ujevica (a total rarity, white hardcover set), Borges...

Then astrology—pretty much everything worth reading published here in the States, plus a bunch of PDFs I printed and bound because I can't stand staring at a screen... probably another hundred titles

Then theology, dozens of books there. Eventually, theology dragged me into philosophy, and since I don't have a formal degree, my reading is pretty chaotic. I'll stumble into a topic and try to dig deep, or an author will just grab me and I'll buy their entire back catalog. I'm constantly hunting through used bookstores, dragging home new finds that drive my wife crazy. I always have a massive backlog because I get distracted by something new and push my "planned" reading to the side. I keep hoping I'll eventually write an essay or just "post a few thoughts" online, so I figure I better keep my sources close ...

How long does it take to slog through a 500-page philosophy tome? Like, say, Heidegger's battle and time or Kant's critique of pure reason? Hmm... long enough that I barely catch the thread. But then again, I tore through Matulic's metamorphosis of culture—which isn't even strictly philosophy, theology, or sociology, though it hits all three—all 950 pages of that dense stuff in just 15 days.

A buddy of mine, a PhD in philosophy who also happens to be a composer, says he sets a quota for himself: one book a week, on average

Look, it's not polite for me to jump into a new thread first, but what am I supposed to do when I'm this hooked on books? Couldn't resist the temptation >

P. S. I'm huge on Berdyaev. Super interesting guy. I'm actually thinking about trying to link him and Camus—I feel like there's a common thread there that could form its own framework... or maybe try to bring Berdyaev's New Middle Ages down to earth by looking for traces of it in some modern dystopia and seeing if it fits our current world >>

I have heard quite a bit about Berdyaev. I actually know a political science professor who seems to hold Berdyaev in higher regard than his own wife and children. 😁

steelridge58 said:So, basically, I really need us to figure out how to fill up this empty shelf you see in the photo. 👍

I was also thinking that maybe some poetry collections could find a nice little home right over in the section we set aside for philosophy.

Anyway, that’s just my initial thought to get the ball rolling, and 🙂 I'm honestly really excited to dive into this topic with you all!

Well, I was just wondering who might actually walk away with the grand prize. 😁

Poetry books could also find a home in the section designated for philosophy.

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I certainly agree. One simply cannot exist without the other. Philosophy draws its inspiration from many sources, and poetry is undoubtedly one of them.

For now, this is all for the start, and at the same time 🙂 I welcome the discussion!

Fair enough. This thread will likely stay active for quite some time, so please contribute whenever you find a spare moment. And since you are already here—would you mind correcting something I wrote?

It isn't necessary to mention only books from philosophy.

I truly dislike making such clumsy mistakes. It seems one becomes increasingly illiterate due to an excessive (and perhaps harmful) reliance on the internet. 😁 Though, to avoid sounding overly self-critical, I should note that this is actually the very first thread I have ever started exclusively using my smartphone. 😁

Every so often, I find myself drifting into my local Barnes & Noble. It’s become a bit of a ritual; I’ll wander the aisles, flip through a few covers, and simply enjoy some solitary time whenever I need to clear my head. I tend to linger in several different sections because my interests are rather scattered. However, I inevitably gravitate toward the philosophy department, which is where I stumbled upon this:



It was quite disheartening. Beyond the fact that they’ve reorganized the layout and reduced the shelf space—and by extension, the selection—there isn't a single volume left in this section. Three thoughts crossed my mind. First, for a fleeting moment, I felt a surge of optimism. I thought, "Well, if everyone is picking them up, people must actually be reading." 😁 Second, I realized that perhaps philosophy doesn't hold much weight in a world where materialism is the prevailing religion and money is treated as one of our highest deities. And third—though perhaps a bit self-deprecating—I suppose it is better to have empty shelves than empty heads, at least in my case. 😁

My own bookshelf is slightly smaller than the one pictured here, but it is packed to the brim. As I look at it now, I am trying to discern how much of it truly qualifies as philosophical study. About a third seems to be children's literature. Honestly, I struggle to find even one physical book I own that could be strictly categorized as a work of philosophy, perhaps aside from the Bible. That said, I belong to that generation that relies heavily on digital formats; on my phone alone, I have at least 200 books that are pure philosophy. On my laptop, the number is even higher. I tend to read whatever captures my interest in the moment—whatever sparks a curiosity about a subject I previously knew nothing about. Sometimes it’s just specific chapters, and sometimes it’s a collection of selected essays, of which I also have many. Currently, I am attempting to instill some discipline in myself—trying to read things "from cover to cover." Lately, it seems my primary preoccupation has become philosophy.

The idea here isn't just about what we are currently reading, but also about what we have read in the past that might have left an impression on us. Or, conversely, what we hope or plan to read in the future. It would be wonderful if you could share how you personally experienced a certain book, along with its title and author. Even a simple recommendation would be just as appreciated.

As for my own goals, the work I am determined to finish is Jeanne Hersch and her introduction to philosophy; I managed to track down a PDF version. This is my primary focus right now, something I try to read "regularly"—though I don't know how you define "regularly." For me, it doesn't mean daily, but rather something I constantly return to in an effort to finally reach the end.

If I may ask a question: on average, how long does it take you to get through a work of, say, 400 to 500 pages? I realize it depends entirely on the material. If the subject matter is familiar, it likely moves faster, whereas a dense text that requires you to constantly backtrack, re-read passages, and pause for reflection will certainly take much longer.

There is no need to limit your suggestions to philosophy alone. There is so much worthy and useful reading out there that can simultaneously contribute to one's philosophical understanding.

P.S. If anyone finds themselves succumbing to the temptations of the modern age and wishes to discuss digital reading, please do not be shy. Feel free to join the conversation. 🙂

Even over at the Philosophy department, things have shifted. It’s much the same situation with Religion, though that particular atmosphere has been festering for over a decade now—but that is a long story for another day. Personally, I believe the moderators and the administration (both the old guard and perhaps even the current one) bear some responsibility here because they failed to take this specific sub-forum seriously. What started as a discussion space has devolved into a battleground of anti-religious propaganda on one side and defensive, apologetic theism on the other. It isn't anything groundbreaking; it has actually been this way for more than ten years. Many people have reached similar conclusions—perhaps some of them will see this and chime in.

I find myself wondering what the point of this entire section even is. Honestly, I would have pulled the plug on it yesterday. There is simply no reason to maintain a single sub-forum where every possible topic becomes a target for trolling, insults, and heated arguments. We are constantly dealing with high-tension situations, hotheaded debates, and extremists from every conceivable camp.

Richard Wilson4 said:Is at least this part acceptable as historical action?

You’re asking quite a lot. 😁 I did a bit of digging through some history books a few years back and read up on the legend of Mulan.

I revisited both versions today—the 2009 version and the 2020 one. Honestly, no comment. I actually enjoyed both films quite a bit. However, I found that the newer version was lacking in action; based on the trailers, I truly expected much more, especially since Jackie Chan is in it (I've watched many of his films multiple times). Of course, everyone's experience is largely subjective. 🙂

Nathan Turner3 said:I am quite disappointed; I feel it desperately lacks the atmosphere of the animated film it was based on.

It is filled with naive scenes and is almost entirely devoid of humor—it even feels somewhat soulless, if I may say so.

If you had seen the 2009 Chinese film starring Vivian Zhao as Hua Mulan, then you would truly understand what a lack of humor means. 😁 American filmmakers tend to swing from one extreme to the other. I have watched films where the humor is relentless, yet on the flip side, I have seen many movies that leave me feeling completely shaken afterward. In those productions, the harshness of life is portrayed with such realism and vividness. Perhaps that is just my subjective impression, though; I cannot be certain.

All in All, I enjoyed the movie. I have watched the 2009 version a few times, and perhaps I prefer that one ever so slightly more than the Disney production, but regardless, I had a good time. Personally, I expected a bit more emphasis on martial arts mastery based on the trailer. I watched it on my computer, but as soon as it hits theaters here in Canada, I plan to go see it on the big screen. 😁 Chinese films, specifically martial arts epics set in the past, are my absolute favorite genre to watch.

Essentially, this version represents how the Western world perceives or views the story. It isn't a bad film by any means. However, if anyone wants to challenge themselves, they should watch the Chinese version from 2009. That is where you find that raw intensity. I found the ending particularly fascinating.

I believe you ought to temper your use of verbal insults and crude remarks. I have observed a gradual increase in this kind of behavior on your part. If you find yourself unable to provide a substantive rebuttal to someone's statements or perspectives, then please refrain from making comments that attack their personal integrity or character. Worst of all, do not play the martyr by complaining about others when you are hardly any better than they are. :dupli late:

silentfalcon3 said:Nanjing! Nanjing!...
It truly stands out as one of the most powerful war dramas I've ever had the chance to watch...

Mulan...
I remember seeing it on an American network a few years back, and honestly, you're much better off watching the original Chinese masterpiece than that Disney's trash...

I haven't had the chance to sit down with this particular war drama yet, though I believe I’ve seen two or three of their other war films, which I quite enjoyed. Regarding Hua Mulan, I have watched the version you mentioned, but I am eagerly anticipating when the local independent cinemas start screening the latest Hua Mulan. I wouldn't dare label Disney's version as complete trash before I've actually sat through it myself. 😁

I just watched Ip Man 4 in the theater here, and I have to say, it was absolutely epic. I honestly feel a sense of melancholy knowing that this marks the final installment in the Ip Man series starring Donnie Yen.

I subsequently watched Birth of the Dragon. The plot of this film is based on one version—of perhaps three—suggesting that Bruce Lee lost a match to another martial arts master, Wong Jack Man. In reality, Wong Jack Man did indeed have a match with Bruce Lee, which is precisely how he became famous. I once spent quite a bit of time researching this historical bout, which took place back in 1964 in San Francisco. While several different accounts exist, the version presented in the film seems to be the most plausible to me. I wouldn't say I could perfectly reconcile the entire cinematic portrayal with everything I know about Bruce Lee, but personally, I found it to be an absolutely wonderful film. I have actually gone back and watched it a few more times on my computer.

Master Z: Ip Man Legacy is also an absolute masterpiece. It seems like Max Zhang is always cast as the villain—he lost to Ip Man in Ip Man 3, naturally—but in this particular film, he truly impressed me. In fact, I’ve watched it several times now. To be honest, I mostly find myself rewinding to the martial arts sequences, as that is what fascinates me most. When it comes to Asian cinema, I have developed a profound affection for these specific genres. I have explored dozens of films within this category, including many lesser-known titles. I could speak at length about this subject. I find myself happily revisiting certain films over and over again, which is something that absolutely never happens with any other type of production. I don't sit through a James Bond movie twice, nor do I rewatch Fast & Furious, but I found myself watching The Blades again just a few weeks ago—it might have been my fifth or sixth time seeing it. 😁 It is quite enough for me to simply mention one of those films on a forum or in a live conversation; by that very same evening, I find myself absolutely compelled to sit down and watch one. 😁 The choreography and sheer artistry found in those films are truly unparalleled; I honestly don't believe anyone else could execute them with such precision and grace.

Michelle Long6 said:Here are my top 3 favorite Chinese films (though I guess the first one isn't strictly Chinese since it was a co-production):

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon 10/10

House of Flying Daggers 9/10

Hero 8/10

They are quite good. However, our discussion here is strictly limited to Chinese martial arts films. To be fair, those are really the only types of movies I watch; Chinese cinema is truly massive. The Blades Personally, I found the film to be quite good. Moving forward... Reign of AssassinsIn all my years, I have truly never encountered a single soul who actually possesses a deep understanding of Chinese martial arts cinema. It is quite disheartening; every time I attempt to engage someone in a meaningful conversation about this genre, and they inevitably bring up Bruce Lee or, heaven forbid, even Jackie Chan, I find myself feeling rather discouraged. 🤦 😁 It is evident to me that they simply aren't paying attention, nor do they truly understand the situation.

I have dipped in and out of this thread from time to time to follow the discussion, and while I can't say for certain what the current state of affairs is, things seemed perfectly fine whenever I checked in. I certainly never noticed any insults or similar outbursts—unless, of course, they were being moderated promptly, though I wouldn't know for sure. That is why, if the situation is truly as you all have described it, I find myself quite surprised.

A low budget doesn't automatically mean a movie is going to be subpar. 🤷 In my view, the very philosophy behind their filmmaking is fundamentally different from what we see in Hollywood. There are even some great South Korean films out there; I've personally sat through several. I am specifically referring to the martial arts genre here.

Have you had a chance to watch Blades?

I watched The Grandmaster sometime last year, towards the end of the summer if my memory serves me right. I stumbled upon it online, found a friend who had it, and downloaded it immediately. I’ve actually revisited certain scenes several times.

As I mentioned before, Ip Man was actually a real person, and his most famous student was Bruce Lee.

There is also the film The Legend is Born – Ip Man, which I have seen. To be honest, I wasn't particularly fond of the lead actor; I suppose I am just more accustomed to seeing Donnie Yen, Jet Li, or Andy Lau (in films like Shaolin from 2011, Detective Dee, Three Kingdoms: Resurrection of the Dragon, House of Flying Daggers, The Warlords, and so on). I have watched quite a few films featuring these actors, though I tend to be rather particular about my viewing habits. I generally stick to four rules: 1) strictly martial arts films, 2) English subtitles only, 3) period pieces set in the past, and 4) relatively modern productions—I haven't really touched anything from the '70s or early '80s. The only exception would be a film set during WWII, though even then, I often watch those in segments rather than all at once.

Regarding martial arts cinema, I would have to highlight Blades starring Donnie Yen. I’ve watched that one a couple of times as well. Donnie Yen is truly a standout because he possesses genuine martial arts skills himself.

I have started to notice certain recurring patterns within this genre:

1) They generally steer clear of immoral or explicit scenes;

2) A happy ending isn't guaranteed. In fact, it is quite common for the protagonist (male or female) to perish by the end, or for some other tragic conclusion to occur. For instance, Donnie Yen dies at the end of Blades, Andy Lau dies in Shaolin, and in House of Flying Daggers, the female lead whom the hero loves passes away. In The Warlords, I believe one of the main characters meets a similar fate, and Jet Li dies at the end of Fearless. The list is honestly quite long.

3) There is almost always a thematic tension between betrayal and loyalty (usually toward an emperor, a general, or the people).

After watching about twenty of these films, I felt a sudden pang of regret that I hadn't been taking notes on all the wisdom and profound sayings that surface throughout the stories; there are quite many of them. Since diving into these, I find myself completely uninterested in Hollywood productions. I believe I have only watched perhaps two or three Hollywood films in the last year and a half... or at least, I can't recall any others.

Terry Collins9 said:1911 Honestly, I don't get how nobody brought up Red Cliff—it’s such a massive spectacle by John Woo. I've sat through plenty of others—you know, those historical and mythological epics—but let's be real, who can even remember their names?

If I recall correctly, Red Cliff actually consists of two parts. I have seen both, and they are quite good films.

I would also highly recommend the films about Ip Man, the martial arts legend who served as a teacher to Bruce Lee (he passed away just a month before Bruce did). There are a few more recent films regarding this master; one was released in 2008, titled Ip Man, starring Donnie Yen. Two years later, the same actor starred in the sequel, Ip Man 2. There is also Ip Man from 2013, though Donnie Yen does not appear in it. Finally, last year's The Grandmaster is, in my humble opinion, a film that truly deserves your attention; I have personally watched it several times. The lead actor, Tony Leung, actually practiced Wing Chun for about five years specifically for this role. The film is a blend of drama and action, featuring some truly impressive martial arts sequences.

Dennis Martin6 said:Those movies are top-tier—perfectly directed—but I think gentlemarlin is just looking for some Hollywood-style Chinese flicks. Maybe they should give the Detective Dee series or Journey to the West a shot instead.

Personally, I would suggest starting with Once Upon a Time in China. If I recall correctly, there are about five installments in total, and in my humble opinion, the first three are the absolute best. Jet Li really made his mark in those, whereas Vincent Zhao takes over the lead role in the final two.

gentlemarlin said:It's honestly hard to believe that nobody here watches Asian films (including those from Hong Kong) and has zero recommendations to share.

I am curious, what specific types of Chinese cinema actually interest you? What genres are you looking for? To be perfectly honest, I have managed to watch at least 50 Chinese films over the last year and a half, and I must admit that I can't even recall many of them—perhaps even most of the titles. 😁