Ethan Brooks59 said:If someone actually wants to contribute to a debate using real arguments, they should just act like a regular user. Deleting posts just because they aren't "alternative"—meaning you're scrubbing anything where people show ignorance, religious bias, or trollish nonsense—is a total violation of basic decency. It’s a blatant abuse of power and an attempt to manipulate the conversation.
I've stepped in plenty of times to tell people to keep it civil and stop the insults. Clearly, being polite doesn't work here, so we've moved straight to the delete button. Civil discourse is everything. Everyone has the right to voice what they believe, whether it's backed by facts or just pure fantasy. People are free to share their theories and whims; if you want actual data, go find a textbook.
Jerry Robinson56 said:Did you even read what was in the post you quickly deleted? Your message here was completely baseless and purely trolling.
I'm not sure which exact post you mean, but here are just a few recent examples from the deleted posts on the last page:
Wrong again, Toolmaker. You don't know anything about this, despite having a long history of failed ambitions—not even attempts, because you have to actually know something to attempt it. It’s hard to miss, as you prove constantly. Don't bother giving yourself compliments like saying you'll admit you're ignorant... you aren't ignorant, you just lack the ability to accept any actual knowledge... like a container filled with helium at +2.2° K.
Hey, the amount of mental stagnation you have would be enough for three poor brothers.
Let's see how you self-stigmatize just so someone will slap you.
The second link you posted has nothing to do with the topic, but it fits perfectly with your invalid conclusions and total lack of knowledge. I told you a long time ago there's no need to act out in this thread.
Since you can't tell a mile from a kilometer—which was obvious from your previous posts—I'll just repeat what kids in elementary school know, but apparently remains unreachable for you. You once again showed an incredible inability to figure out where 60 miles per second came from in the post they removed, where you wrote 37 miles in a second.
After asking nonsensical questions, you offer invalid conclusions without any rational basis. It’s already been mentioned that you should try reading what is actually written... instead of just listening to what people tell you. The sheer amount of stupidity in the conclusions you "draw" could hardly be the product of one person; it looks more like a team of idiots.
Just ask questions; don't try to "conclude" things. You haven't grown into making valid conclusions yet.
Honestly, I don't care much about anyone's logical reasoning. As far as I'm concerned, everyone has the right to believe whatever they want based on whatever website they read, but I won't tolerate personal insults or being looked down upon. That's all from me.
Posts get nuked because people can't play nice—harassment, personal attacks, insults, all that junk. It’s got nothing to do with whether a mathematical or logical proof is sound. Honestly, I could ban someone and delete their stuff at the same time if I felt like it; it wouldn't be a problem. 🥳 Learn how to talk to each other properly, and everything will be fine.
It seems like it all comes down to the individual evaluating the kid. I was fully prepared for them to suggest holding him back a year, but nobody even brought it up. The pediatrician just mentioned he needs to work more on his fine motor skills. Maybe it’s because we went ahead and did psychological testing on our own before enrolling. I wanted everything documented in black and white to prove he's 100% ready for kindergarten, just in case the school district tries to push for a delay. Then I'd actually have something to wave in their faces. 😁
First you’re stressing about the CDC because you have no idea why they're calling or if this is even standard procedure, and now suddenly it's totally normal. Not to mention all the other contradictions in what you're saying.
Andrew Wright2 said:Need some intel from anyone who’s dealt with school deferrals before.
So, we actually got the extension. My kid is 6.5 right now—he would've started school at 6.10, which is why we pushed for the delay. Even the local elementary school agreed he's just not ready yet. Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you got a call from Child Protective Services asking for a statement? If so, what was that actually about?
I can't help feeling like they're out to get us. But hey, if this is just standard procedure and everyone goes through it, then whatever. It's just that every time I hear "CPS," I have a total panic attack thinking they're gonna come after us or try to take my kids. I know, sounds totally paranoid, but I can't help it. 😢
Andrew Wright2 said:My kid won't be the oldest in his class—he’s got buddies who were held back too, born in early 2010.
Like I told my friend—she’s a special ed specialist working both at the local preschool and the elementary school here—she asked for a deferral for her son, too. He’s totally on track, socially solid, can read and write, all that good stuff. She got the green light. She actually has three kids, and there are others in that same preschool who got a delay just because their parents requested it.
We just asked, and everyone was cool with it. Nobody rolled their eyes or acted like the kid would fall behind in life. Honestly, people were telling us, "Good call." We didn't bribe anyone or pull any strings through connections. Surprising, right?? Apparently, that's how things work in America.
So yeah, around this part of the US, they're pretty chill about it. Getting the paperwork from social services is just standard procedure. I already mentioned who gets approved.
The official notice doesn't explain *why* he got it, just that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, under the Department of Education, agrees with the committee's decision based on all the files from the psychologists, speech therapists, and school doctors. It’s for a perfectly healthy, well-adjusted kid who basically taught himself English just by watching TV and cartoons.
I’m just thankful I have two healthy kids.
Also, I was calling out the communists, the ultra-right wingers, and the religious zealots—not the extremists if you can't tell the difference, I can't help you.
I wasn't throwing around "expert" opinions; I was just describing the actual process for delaying enrollment. You know, the whole runaround with the preschool psychologist, the hospital specialists, the speech therapist, school med, and even the dentist.
And seriously, it's not like 🙄 we pulled some crazy stunt or anything. We went through the proper channels and got the deferral because we were straight up honest about what we wanted. And nobody—literally nobody—gave us grief or fought us on it. Does that even register with you people?!
As for you implying my kid has "problematic parents"—maybe take a look at your own families and how you treat your kids. Or your parents and grandparents and what they did in the past.
Hey, let's go. Let's throw the first stone if we're gonna play that game. Is that what we're doing?
My kids have everything they need. They're well-adjusted, not spoiled, and they never throw tantrums in public or at home. We handle everything by talking to them on their level. They go on trips abroad every month, we're always with them, and they get 3-5 hot meals a day. We're hands-on, but I've never said a bad word about school to my little one because I know how much that matters. He loves preschool. We never force them into anything. There were times they didn't want to get in the pool, so I just wiped them down with a warm towel. If they didn't want to eat something, I just made something else. It's always about understanding, never force.
My kids come first. Period.
I never said I'm with my child 24/7; I meant every parent is (figuratively speaking). Try reading with a little comprehension.
If you guys think being a "junkie" is a vibe, then go ahead and let your kids be raised by them. See if I care.
It's not like I'm acting superior or anything. I'm not. I'm flawed, and so were my parents. I'll be the first to admit it. But since my husband and I have been through some stuff in life, we figured we'd use that knowledge to make sure our kid doesn't have to struggle through the same thing.
Would it kill you to make life a little easier for your own kid once in a while?
Delaying school isn't delaying life; it's just a 365-day delay. That's nothing compared to a lifetime.
My bad, I said I'm with my kid 24 hours a day, but I meant figuratively, not literally.
Andrew Wright2 said:My kid is already enrolled in a standard daycare. Let’s use some common sense here.
Besides, you nosorog actually said yourself—if I recall correctly—that kids shouldn't even start school until they're 8 or 9.
I'm not denying my kid an education; I just pushed school back by one year. That's it.
I'll definitely keep you posted. Just hang tight until Friday.
So what if she did say that? Saying something isn't the same as actually doing it or fighting tooth and nail to delay a kid's education. She vents about all sorts of things regarding the school system, but that doesn't mean she doesn't care about her kid getting caught in its gears.🤷
Given the recent posts here, I’m honestly not even surprised that the school board is a total mess. I just want to know if you really think everyone is going to vanish from their jobs if your kid misses a year of school. Do you think that junkie is suddenly going to stop working? Or that all those veteran professors are just going to retire overnight?
As a moderator, consider this a warning: stop dragging the conversation away from the topic to rant about communists.
I find it pretty ridiculous too. Then again, you can't really talk about a six-year-old when they're practically seven by the time school actually starts. Andrew Wright2, my kid is just a little bit older than yours. Even with a few minor issues, the idea of asking for a delay never even crossed my mind. Honestly, I was already bracing myself for the possibility that the school district might be the ones suggesting a delay.
urbantinker8 said:So, when was the little guy actually born? I suppose if none of the specialists saw any real reason to suggest an enrollment delay, then maybe that's why you're thinking that way. It isn't exactly the standard procedure, I guess, but hey, apparently things like that do happen sometimes, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
But if that happens, you don't even get the delay, right? 🤷 I know a few families from this year who asked for an enrollment delay, but the school specialists didn't see a need for it. In those cases, the parents' input was ignored, and the kids just started elementary school on schedule.
Susan James said:They definitely exist. In our family, the biggest gap we've seen was between the kids who invited us over for their 7th birthday back in January (two little girls, quite petite, maybe around 4 feet tall) and the two who are inviting us now for their 8th.
With only about a 10-month age gap, there's at least a 6-inch difference in height. I won't even get into 🍿
Of course age isn't everything, because kids develop at such different paces and have totally different levels of stimulation. That said, starting school a little "early" might actually be stimulating for some kids in terms of learning, especially if their social-emotional development is on track and/or if they live in an environment that isn't particularly stimulating.
On the flip side, for kids who are already facing challenges—especially with speech and language development—even delaying things (meaning waiting to start school later) can sometimes feel "detrimental." It affects their intellectual growth, but mostly their social-emotional side. When it comes to practice and learning, I think it's much easier to handle through preschool rather than jumping straight into school (assuming, of course, the parents have the capacity to encourage the child).
So, it's really vital to get a solid diagnosis with a recommendation regarding that extra year of delay.
Look, we see this all the time at the local playground—some kids are clearly bigger than mine despite being younger, and vice versa. Some of them really catch me off guard 🤣. Standardized tests and emotional maturity are the real metrics here. You have to draw a line somewhere, but in reality, everyone knows how subjective it all is.
Susan James said:I see where they're coming from. Usually, those slightly older kids are a bit taller or more developed physically—it’s all those external factors at play.
That one-year gap can actually make a massive difference in how a kid looks and carries themselves.
It affects everything from their emotional maturity to their intellectual growth and current skill sets. That’s why it’s so important to focus on supporting those specific areas regardless of a birth date. At the end of the day, school cares about what a student can do, not whether their birthday invitation says "Come to my 7th birthday party" or "Come to my 8th."
It's not like everyone ends up the same height and weight later on. There are always huge physical differences.
nimblelynx7 said:And I don't understand how a kid born in Feb 2011 and one born in April 2010 are even considered part of the same school generation. There's a ten-month gap there. You can't convince me those two groups are the same or that the difference doesn't matter.
Back when I was in school, the struggling students were always the ones who started at age six; they were physically smaller than the rest of us. Plenty of my former classmates who have kids now are complaining because they actually listened to some "expert" advice and sent their children to school at six.
I don't see why everyone is rushing. The IRS hires whoever they can find; they'll never run out of people. As if one extra year is going to change anything, and once it starts, there's no turning back.
No matter how you slice it, there will always be kids in a class with a significant age gap. If they aren't the youngest, they're the oldest. In my elementary school class, the kid who was a full year older than most of us was one of the worst students, so age alone doesn't prove anything.
Harold Cook2 said:That whole thing with the priest—man, I won't even go there because I don't want to get banned for being too blunt, but it’s absolutely sickening. It's tragic, honestly. And the worst part? There's plenty more where that came from; it just hasn't hit the mainstream news cycle yet. Poor kid, and man, his mother... if he were my child, I think things would have gone a lot differently. I doubt there isn't a single TV station or newspaper in the States that hasn't picked up on this. When I saw that footage, my heart just broke. It was like seeing someone who serves the devil instead of God.👎
I've got a question... If I don't sign my kid up for religious ed classes at school, can they still take communion and do their First Communion or Confirmation later on? Because when I see this kind of filth happening, I lose all desire to be involved, but at the same time, I am a believer and I'd still love for my kid to go through those milestones just like I did.
Just let them grow up and decide for themselves what they want to do. 😉