neonmoose3 said:I need some perspective here.
My grandfather is battling urinary tract cancer. Between his advanced age (87 years old) and his declining health, he’s reaching the end of the road. He’s partially lucid, understands what’s happening, feels that the end is near, and has expressed that he wants to go home to pass away.
At home, he would be cared for by his immediate family and a nurse with palliative care experience. The family feels that being at home surrounded by loved ones is a much more humane way to go than dying in a hospital setting.
The doctor isn't keen on letting him leave because he currently has a fever and is in very poor condition. The nurse who would be caring for him says we should listen to the doctor.
My question is: can the family take responsibility and take him home even if it goes against the ward doctor's opinion? What are our options regarding this?
In a way, this feels like the exact opposite of the usual scenario where a hospital discharges a patient because "there's nothing left to do," while the family fights to keep them in the hospital for treatment until the end.
Thanks.
If your grandfather is legally competent to make his own decisions, he can sign himself out against medical advice. You can certainly ask the doctor, but as far as I know, you can't sign for him unless you have specific legal status—like a power of attorney or guardianship if he isn't capable of making independent decisions anymore.
My advice? Listen to the doctor and get that infection under control first. You absolutely cannot manage that kind of thing at home. It’s all about quality of life, and you can't provide quality care for an infection like that in a living room. Follow the nurse's lead and stick with the doctor's plan. Trust me, they won't keep him a single day longer than necessary because hospital beds are always in short supply. Maybe when you next speak with the doctor, bring the nurse along too, so they can both assess the situation and you can reach the best decision for him.
@Fiz
Anything with a yogurt-like emulsion consistency could work for administering propolis. You can even find kid-friendly propolis powder so you don't have to mess with opening capsules; it might be cheaper, too. Mixing it into fruit yogurt or an AB culture might make the taste easier for him to handle, though I'm not sure what specifically is bothering him—it's similar to honey. 🤷 Grab some Beta Glucan as well; that will perk him up, just like multivitamins supposedly perk up the dead. I've had really good results with that when dealing with elderly people. Hang in there and don't let it get to you. You're working harder than you should have to, acting like a devoted daughter-in-law, while he has a son and daughter who can handle the arguing with him. Just offer it to him, and let him decide. Your conscience is clear, dear, so don't beat yourself up over it.