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Paul Rogers94 said:Experience is actual knowledge—everything else is just theory (mostly hollow, unless it’s actually backed by experience)
How is a non-diabetic endocrinologist based in the US supposed to understand diabetes any better than an endocrinologist who actually lives with it? Both are specialists in America, after all...

A non-diabetic endocrinologist and an endocrinologist with diabetes will have the exact same level of knowledge. Their expertise comes down to their education and clinical commitment, not their own medical diagnosis.

If experience alone equaled true knowledge, primitive people would still think the sun is a divine chariot circling the globe, or that the Earth is a flat disc resting on a turtle's back in a sea of milk.
Experience is overrated because our senses, perceptions, and cognitive abilities are fundamentally limited and unreliable.

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Paul Rogers94 said:I wasn't talking about you, and I know you've used LSD—my point was that no matter how much someone describes the taste of honey, you won't actually know what it tastes like until you try it (some might be more sensitive to the flavor, some might be moved by it, and others might find nothing interesting about it at all).
Well, sure, you took LSD; you probably did your research beforehand, but it was still fundamentally different from whatever assumption you held based on that data—or was it?
You likely researched before traveling to some remote, exotic destination, yet the actual trip turned out to be something else entirely—the map is not the territory.
And since we're on the subject of psychedelics, based on my own fairly extensive experience, I haven't found them to be particularly dependent on suggestion, setting, or expectations—but that’s just my take.

I was simply using the psychedelic experience as a metaphor for a spiritual one.

You're essentially denying the authenticity of any spiritual experience, dismissing them as subjective delusions triggered by setting and suggestion, whereas I believe only the *interpretation* and subsequent perception of a spiritual experience are subjective—assuming, of course, that the experience itself is authentic.

Sure, you can't have a hallucinogenic experience without using hallucinogens, but that doesn't mean you know more about how they work than someone who hasn't used them.

It's like how you don't know what it's like to be a diabetic if you aren't one, but being a diabetic doesn't mean you know more about the disease than a doctor who isn't.

Solid knowledge is more important than lived experience because it's less prone to subjective interpretations, biases, and projections. It's based on a much larger sample size.
Not really. I’ll take all perspectives into account, though I find many consumers a bit too unstable to give much weight to. Honestly, I’d rather listen to an expert who lacks hands-on experience than someone erratic. Besides, everyone’s experiences vary wildly—especially how they interpret them. Some people spiral into mystical fantasies or paranoia, others (including myself, if you're implying I've never messed around with hallucinogens ) stay pretty grounded without it bleeding into daily life, and then there are the third group who have zero meaningful experience and can't fathom why anyone would care about this stuff.

The worst part is when you trap yourself in an echo chamber of similar (ideological and experiential ) ideas, actively hunting for validation while ignoring anything that contradicts your view. This is especially dangerous with things as susceptible to suggestion, expectation, and environment as hallucinogens (or even trance-like states triggered by spiritual practices ).
Steven Stewart3 said:Alright, let's get into this because people constantly mix these two up, and honestly, there's a massive difference between schizophrenia and psychosis! It’s not like they're the exact same thing, even though everyone uses the terms interchangeably. Think of it like this: psychosis is more of a symptom—a specific experience where your brain starts playing tricks on you, making things feel super real when they aren't—whereas schizophrenia is the actual clinical diagnosis. You can have a psychotic episode without having schizophrenia, but if someone has schizophrenia, they'll definitely deal with psychosis at some point. It's a huge distinction, so don't go tossing them around like they're synonyms!
Honestly, I feel like most people diving deep into the spiritual scene are just dealing with a bit of psychosis. It’s a different ballgame when you start seeing actual psychopathy or full-blown madness creeping in—that’s where things get truly heavy. But hey, I think most of us pretty much get what I mean, right?

It's actually both (plus a third and fourth option).

Psychosis is a common feature of schizophrenia, but it isn't exclusive to it (though technically it falls under the broader umbrella of psychotic disorders).

Psychopathy doesn't have any direct link to schizophrenia—that's an entirely different category altogether (personality disorders).

And "madness" doesn't mean anything; it's not a diagnosis, just a slang term people use for basically everything.
neonmarlin39 said:So, what? I’m still standing by what I said... Basically, Vivekananda brought Raja Yoga into the mix alongside those three classic paths, and that’s pretty much exactly what your quote is getting at. 😁

Same thing from that link:

Shankara was pretty much all about that gyan-yoga life, focusing almost entirely on gaining knowledge or vidya. Honestly, he didn't think much of karma-yoga—kind of looked down on it as being secondary. But then you look at the stuff he actually wrote, and it’s interesting. He penned some of the most legendary hymns dedicated to deities like Shiva, Vishnu, Devi, Ganesha, and Subrahmanya, which really shows he had a huge soft spot for Bhakti-Yoga.

So, I was reading up on this 12th-century philosopher, Ramanuja, and how he looked at the three different yogas through the lens of what Yamunacharya taught. It’s pretty interesting stuff. From how he saw it, Bhakti-Yoga is basically the main highway to spiritual liberation—but there's a catch. You can't just jump straight into it. Apparently, you’ve gotta put in the work first, training your mind and soul through both Karma yoga and Jnana yoga before that path even opens up to you. Kind of like how you can't just walk into a high-end gym in NYC and start benching 300 pounds without doing the cardio and prep work first, you know? You gotta build the foundation first.


Do we all agree that this whole division goes way deeper than just Vivekananda?

Some of these terms are actually quite old—even if they aren't used much in every sect these days—which is what I was getting at in the first place.

Presenting this division as a formal system designed to categorize and describe all Hindu traditions seems to be based on Vivekananda's approach.
lonestag15 said:Look, people have shared their stories—whether you choose to buy into them or not is entirely up to you... But seriously, just try this: search for "kundalini symptoms" and watch about ten different videos. Then, switch gears and search for "psychosis" and read through those testimonials. Compare the two, and you'll pretty much reach your own conclusion...

And honestly, all those Eastern exercises being pushed by the New Age crowd? They’re basically just a massive dopamine hit—the whole "spiritual" side of it is pretty questionable... which is exactly why people hit those ecstatic states. If you've already got a predisposition for mental health issues, that excess dopamine can act as a total trigger...

What's this supposed to mean?
Are you actually gonna act like a normal human being, or are you just gonna keep acting like a twelve-year-old clown...

I’ll tell you exactly how long I stuck with those exercises and what kind of results I actually saw. And then what? Just more immature mocking of the whole thing?...

The issue is that it's tough to draw a line between a biological predisposition, an active illness, and the influence of the practice itself.

Also, since any kind of practice likely has some effect, there isn't really a reason yet to assume that "Kundalini yoga ( 🙄 )" is any more dangerous than contemplative or ascetic practices found in Christianity or elsewhere.
neonmarlin39 said:It’s a pretty standard way to look at it, though. You see it mentioned clearly right in the Bible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Yogas

From that link:
Quincy:
The idea of organizing Hindu monotheism into these four specific paths or "Yogas" is actually a relatively modern concept, pushed by Vivekananda back in the 1890s in his work Yoga.
Paul Rogers94 said:Exactly. And honestly, I'm not even sure if those substances are on the controlled list yet—you don't even need the dark web for this kind of thing.

I don't think they are; it’s just that growing mushrooms is illegal.

Theoretically, someone could monitor these conversations just to hunt for anyone growing mushrooms, but honestly, that seems like a massive waste of resources. Unless you're buying enough to suspect actual industrial-scale production or large-scale distribution, it’s pretty pointless.

Steven Stewart3 said:So how does that actually work though? Is it like an opioid, or more like LSD, or something else entirely?

It isn't an opiate. It's more like LSD in the sense that we're talking about serotonergic hallucinogens.

I wouldn't jump straight into using anything without knowing the subject matter better. Give yourself at least a few months to really dig in and understand what you’re deciding on. Make sure you look at it from all angles, not just the ones that sound good to you. Sites like Erowid are a solid place to start your research.

Also, if there’s any sign of personal or family history involving mental health issues linked to neurotransmitter hyperactivity—specifically manic episodes, psychosis, or indicators of schizophrenia—it's probably a no-go. The same applies if you deal with depersonalization, derealization, or more serious physical concerns like heart issues, blood pressure, or metabolic problems. Better to steer clear.
Steven Stewart3 said:Hey, it’s all good! I’m just asking, no need to get defensive. Most of this stuff can be ordered right at a local CVS. I actually heard some guys on YouTube mention that Maca Powder acts like a bit of a stimulant—kind of like a natural Viagra vibe, you know? And Taurine... mmm...😛
A probiotic wouldn't hurt either!😁

Sure, I'm interested, but not at these volumes or this price point. To cover an entire year's supply of everything listed, we're looking at... $333Bio Black Friday sale is happening now. We're doing bulk orders.Mostly just crushing them up—just a few capsules or tablets at a time.You can't just walk in and take whatever you want.

I'm not really angry, it’s just that I can't stand seeing people buy stuff blindly just because it's trendy or because some influencer mentioned it. You should use supplements with a specific purpose in mind—if you need them at all. Honestly, half of what gets listed here isn't even essential; it's mostly just people experimenting.
Steven Stewart3 said:Man, I don't know... the thought of the cops breathing down my neck totally freaks me out. I heard you can actually order spores (if that's what you call mushroom seeds?) online where you basically pay like two bucks for shipping and they send the rest for free from the Netherlands. Has anyone here actually tried doing that, or maybe someone else on the forums?
Trump would definitely go for it, but I'm stuck out here in Slough while you're probably hanging out in NYC, so it's just not worth the trip.

The police aren't going to waste their time chasing stuff like this; they might go after a dealer, but that's about it. There's zero logic in burning through IT resources and administrative paperwork to track an online order just to bust someone for three cacti, especially when it's just a misdemeanor at most.

Especially if you're using the dark web with all the standard privacy tools (Tor, VPNs, encryption...). Sure, nothing is unhackable, but you have to ask yourself: who is actually going to spend massive intelligence resources on Joe Biden and his three little spores (which I'm pretty sure are legal on their own anyway, so there's hardly any reason to dive into the dark web for them).
Steven Stewart3 said:So, what did you actually order from that 10kg stash of yours? What kind of good drugs and heavy hitters are we talking about? Please tell me it isn't just some fiber supplements to help you poop better!😁
Give me a hint about what's actually worth it. Have you tried anything for staying wired? Like psychostimulants (Modafinil or something along those lines)?

I don't see why my list would matter to you, or how what works for me would apply to you (some items are based on specific blood work or health markers, some are tried-and-true favorites, and others are just new experiments).

Nothing illegal here.

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Vitamin C
Zinc
Ginkgo Biloba
Grape Seed Extract
D Aspartic Acid
Acetyl L-Carnitine
Green Tea Extract Powder
L-Theanine
N Acetyl L Tyrosine
beta Alanine
Creatine Monohydrate
maca Powder
Inositol
Bee Pollen Powder
Chlorella
Taurine
Flaxseed Powder
Trimethylglycine Powder
probiotics
vitamin D
k3
bacopa
caffeine
lonestag15 said:Man, seriously... I've actually read his biographies... and I even went to that "Nikola Tesla mind from the future" exhibit in New York where they were explaining all these Hindu concepts and how he was connected to them. They had these huge statues of Ganesha and Swami Vivekananda—who, by the way, was famously close with Tesla...

I mean, for real, maybe just do a quick Google search before trying to hit me with a counter-argument...

People talk nonsense all the time, especially when there's money involved. The internet is basically just an ocean of stupidity.

There’s a decent chance he communicated with Vivekananda, but if I recall correctly, the stories don't actually use real names. It’s mostly speculation (for instance, Vivekananda might have mentioned "a certain scientist" he was in contact with, assuming that part is even true).

I think it’s a stretch to claim him for those traditions. Even if there was some intellectual curiosity or correspondence, it's unlikely he ever identified as a Hindu or anything similar.

As for the comments, they're spot on. Aside from the dates clearly being off, that interview is actually part of a stage play. It has nothing to do with the real Tesla or a real interview.
Steven Stewart3 said:Look, as long as you ordered about 20 pounds of various healing herbs from the States (I caught that in another PDF, by the way), that’s gonna help you just as much as any "foggy yoga" routine.
Just kidding... mostly! But seriously, did you pick up anything to help you chill out too?😁 Like some Phenibut or something?

Yoga is pretty much useless, compared to the good drugs. 😁 It’s not just some stuff from America, and it’s certainly not just a bunch of plants. Most of it consists of much more tangible substances—though there are a few botanicals mixed in—and the benefits are pretty hard to ignore. 😛

I wasn't taking phenibut. Honestly, I’m not crazy enough to stockpile (pseudo)benzos like that.
I don't really get why Phenibut is such a huge trend right now. I guess for the alternative crowd, anything that doesn't require a prescription is automatically cooler. Personally, I don't see anything that makes it better than Xanax—I bought some once to try it out—but it seems to hit the stomach harder and builds a dependency way faster. I honestly don't see what the big deal is. 🤔
But that's beside the point. 😁

neonmarlin39 said:If we’re talking about the classic way of splitting up yoga, it’s usually jnana, karma, and bhakti. It’s kind of like a triangle in certain systems—if you pull one corner away, the whole thing just loses its balance and falls apart.

That division isn't exactly traditional, is it? I'm not sure if we saw anything like it before Swami Vivekananda.The terminology pops up, sure, but I haven't seen it framed as some kind of formal categorization in any of the traditional sources.) 🤔
At the end of the day, Hinduism is just pure chaos. There isn't a single tradition that stays consistent for more than one small group.
Selling yoga fog 😁
Steven Stewart3 said:Actually, I don't know if I totally agree with that, because you could pretty much say the same thing about a ton of different yoga styles! Like, think about Nada yoga, Nidra yoga, Shiva yoga, and all that. If we stick to that super "rigid" logic (no pressure, obviously!), then there are basically only a handful of yogas mentioned in the Vedic texts. But honestly, this newer way of categorizing things makes it way easier to grasp what’s actually going on. For instance, Kundalini yoga is kind of similar to Raja yoga, but when people talk about Kundalini yoga, they’re mostly focusing on that specific process of moving the Kundalini upward. With Raja yoga, you’re looking at the whole package—the Yama, Niyama, Pranayama, and everything else. In the world of Kundalini yoga, it’s usually assumed that those other aspects are already checked off and good to go!

Kundalini yoga doesn't exist as its own distinct traditional school. At its core, any Hatha yoga—which is a Tantric derivative—is implicitly Kundalini yoga.

So, the label itself is pretty much meaningless, aside from being a marketing tactic.

Yoga Nidra is a modern invention based on Western relaxation techniques. That’s basically what most people are doing under that name. It emerged relatively recently from Kripalu Yoga (Kripalu Yoga), which is where someone like the widely known Swami Sivananda (who studied there and built his specific style of yoga, even though his own guru didn't focus on it at all) picked it up. While there is some dream work (milam) found in Tibetan yoga—specifically within Dzogchen traditions—it's much less common in Hindu traditions. The methods being practiced today under that name don't really have any connection to anything authentically Indian.

Raja (written as Raja in standard Sanskrit transliteration; reading it as "Raya" is incorrect) yoga is just a relatively recent (late colonial era) term for classical Patanjali yoga, often blended with later Tantric-Hatha traditions. This was largely the result of neo-Hindu attempts to codify and unify a bunch of disconnected Hindu traditions into one loosely coherent system during the era of "national awakening."

Either way, the yoga practiced under the name Kundalini yoga isn't anything special; it's no more "Kundalini" than any other style. It's pure marketing.
You just don't get it; that's just that Jewish way of expressing things 😳 😬
neonmarlin39 said:
I was just thinking about electroconvulsive therapy the other day. It’s one of those things that always gets people talking, usually because they’ve only ever seen those intense, dramatic movie scenes where everything looks like a nightmare. But honestly, if you look at the actual medical side of things here in the States, it’s a totally different conversation. It’s more nuanced than the Hollywood version makes it out to be. Just some food for thought. kaže:
Look, I’ve heard stories about people actually losing their minds from trying to force that Kundalini stuff. It's real. You see people end up in psych wards because they completely trashed their brain chemistry—we're talking total dopamine imbalances and all that.

People keep throwing out these random personal stories like they actually mean something. It’s honestly kind of wild how people try to use "I saw this" or "this happened to me" as if it counts for anything in a real philosophical or scientific debate. But that's exactly what you're doing right now—trying to build a whole case based on nothing but hearsay.

I think there might be a typo or something missing in your message—"elektrokon" doesn't really mean anything to me. You trying to talk about something specific? Hit me up with the details and I'll see what I can do. says:
A buddy of mine is actually a Kundalini yoga instructor up in New York City, so I definitely know what I'm talking about.

Honestly, anyone—I’m talking about Mary, Kit, Stephen, or even Mike—could basically become a certified instructor for Kundalini or whatever flavor of yoga you're into. All you really have to do is pay for the training course, and boom, you're good to go. It feels a bit sketchy to me when someone claims to be a "Kundalini yoga instructor." To be real, it just makes me think they're peddling some kind of nonsense (and honestly, what you're saying pretty much backs that up). No serious or traditional school actually uses the term "Kundalini yoga" like that to get started. I mean, sure, maybe Sivananda used it once in passing, but never in this specific way, and definitely never using a title like "Kundalini yoga instructor." 😁So, just tell me what kind of tradition or school this friend of yours is even running—you know, that yoga instructor you've got over in New York City. If I knew the specifics, we could actually dig into what’s going on here, like the actual philosophy behind it and what kind of practices they're pushing...

http://www.yogibhajan.org/main/

The term "Kundalini Yoga" is really just one more meaningless stunt pulled by some jet-setting guru.
Zachary Cox69 said:Look, he actually said publicly that he wasn't claiming the guy was innocent; he just said the man saved his life. And get this—it was pure coincidence. The guy was just walking past the house, had a sudden thought of "I should go in," even though he'd walked that way before. He goes inside, finds Carver covered in blood, and saves him from those Belgian mercenaries. He says, "I am an Orthodox Christian who believes in God." Meanwhile, William was praying, "God, save me from this right now," just before they planned to assault him.
He started a business, it did well for a while, and then it went under. Suddenly there’s no money for his family or to pay his employees, so the idea hits: maybe we can grab some cash from Medicare. Honestly, what kind of normal person wouldn't react that way? Especially if he bled for this country more than most. All while being a pretty superficial believer at that.
How can you say that with a straight face: "A true American Catholic"? It’s as if only Catholics are thieves, while you and people like you are the honest ones. There's no such thing as an atheist thief. Or any of the others here in the States who aren't Catholic. You're acting like a total communist lackey—just like how the partisans operated after the war, crushing anyone who didn't align with their communist ideology or sending them to the gulags. As a believer, I try to be merciful; I believe anyone can repent and change. Just think about it—it's honestly wild. Someone like you sits at home while people are bleeding and dying, and then you turn around and attack the very people who defended the country. Because of people like you—people who don't respect that sacrifice—so many veterans end up taking their own lives. It’s a tragedy. I condemn you.

Well, there you have it. It seems fiscal responsibility and basic ethics are totally alien concepts to a true American Catholic.😁

As a person of faith, I try to be merciful. I believe anyone can repent and change their ways if they truly want to.

Even us old-school liberals believe there's hope for redemption for those misguided, ultra-right wing extremists.🤷