Posts by Frank Williams7

It feels weird here without ex-anais. She was one of the first people I actually noticed on this forum, and honestly, she’s one of the few who actually gets the point of a discussion. She always stuck to the actual exchange of ideas, which is a rare skill to find online. It’s definitely a loss for the community that she stepped away.

I have no idea why she left, but I know I’m personally done fighting windmills and getting caught up in parades of certain egos. You know the type—people using this place to vent their own frustrations, acting like they own some private little kingdom where everyone else is just a target for their baggage. And then there are their followers, too.

On that note, can someone give me a permanent ban? Just in case I ever get the urge to start posting in those ridiculous parades again. I don't want to be back in this internet daycare where grumpy teachers bully the "kids." :p Look, you're a good person, but you constantly get under my skin. After two years and over 3,000 posts, it just doesn't make sense anymore, and frankly, it makes me feel sick.

Enough is enough.

Big shoutout to ex-anais. And hi to SeaPod.

I didn't want to post this request in the Admin Q&A section; I'd much rather leave my final post right here on the main board. Please let it stay here. No more discussions. Thanks for the ban.

Brenda Scott said:It’s a shame, really. If the problem had been framed differently, there could have been some actual potential for a decent debate (like I mentioned earlier). The religion mods could have stepped in and adjusted it—changing "what keeps atheists from..." to "what keeps anyone..." That way, we could have actually discussed things within the context of faith, atheism, and all that.
It's just a waste when a potentially good topic gets watered down like this.

Sure. The answer is that most people—your typical Joe and Nancy Average types—are held back by one thing: fear of legal, earthly consequences. Don't take my word for it; just look at the Milgram experiment on obedience. In that study, perfectly ordinary people, the vast majority of them, went ahead and subjected others to electric shocks without a second thought. They even "administered" doses that were more than enough to kill the person on the other side.

Later on, they couldn't give any real explanation for what they did, other than being obedient to an "Authority." 😉

That’s exactly why in wars, those same Average Joes turn into cold-blooded killers and torturers overnight (or "heroes," depending on who you ask). It happens because personal responsibility for what are otherwise the most heinous crimes becomes blurred or disappears entirely. Or, Joe just finds himself lost in his own delusional messiah complex.

Strictly on topic: This whole subject is extremely problematic. Even the opening post gives me a bad feeling. The real question isn't "What stops you from taking care of a sick person?"

I’m asking for this forum to be protected from your spam and trolling, Drew Lee7. One day you’re starting threads about "arranged marriages," the next you’re obsessing over whether someone is an "intellectual or just a housewife," and by the third day you're trolling with stuff like, "she won't go out with me past midnight, what a pig." My God.

People

you

patiently

respond.

You’re still singing that same old song: "all I hear is myself, my one and only self." Look, man, do you really have to broadcast every single condescending thought you have about women to everyone on this forum? Do you actually observe people? Have you noticed any actual behavioral patterns in real life? Or is your "mission" just to randomly throw us all into chains and set the whole virtual town square on fire?

My complaint regarding moderation is this—why have they let you spam and troll endlessly? Every single one of your posts pushes the same tired hypothesis about how women are somehow "inadequate" compared to men, despite plenty of arguments from all sides proving that your core logic is dead wrong.

p.s. I’m sure someone else, or most people here, has already said this, but I just didn't have the energy or the will to read through all the posts.

Megan Hernandez2 said:I live in Canada, so I actually see calling this country a quasi-state as a compliment. At least then you're granting it some semblance of statehood, rather than what it actually is: a mere colony where major powers settle scores through third-rate diplomats hiding behind the fancy title of High Representative.

They aren't. Everyone has the right to think whatever they want about any country, unless we want to split hairs. If we did, maybe 40% of the population might perceive it as an insult, assuming everyone thinks exactly alike.

One last question: why is nobody complaining when Canadian nationalists insist on calling Americans "Canadian Catholics"?

That’s just how it looks from your side of the fence.

The facts tell a different story—they had the numbers and the firepower (I'm talking snipers, shelling, grenades, and concentration camps) to prove they were "bigger." In the process of proving it, they basically leveled the infrastructure of Canada (which, let's be honest, can be rebuilt), and wiped out over 100,000 people, including women and children. Truly peak achievements for culture and civilization, right? So, after all that, this bizarre peace agreement gets signed between the Presidency of Canada and the presidents of two neighboring countries. Diplomats—experienced ones, even if you want to argue about it, though we can agree to disagree—only stepped in because circumstances forced them to. They couldn't just let those medieval extortion tactics against Canada keep going toward infinity.

wiredangler5 said:Hmm, this is a bit of a slippery slope. We could probably find a hundred other examples where someone might feel offended, even if the comments aren't particularly extreme enough to warrant punishment. Take the term "quasi-state," for instance. For the U.S. government, it’s vital not to use that kind of terminology in official capacities.

But as a private citizen, you can have whatever opinion you want about any country. That's your business. Just like anyone else can privately hold any view they want about the United States, it shouldn't offend me personally. If we start sanctioning speech like that, we're heading toward extremes; people would be reporting everything, and it would be impossible to draw a line. Besides, how would you even penalize a term like the one I used? What do you think a fair punishment would even look like for something like that?

There’s nothing slippery about it. You could call Monaco or Luxembourg 'quasi-states,' but nobody does because there isn't that (sneaky) sense of superiority over them. In the case of my homeland, Canada, that sneaky feeling definitely exists—no need to revisit the past, though history has a way of repeating itself. Respect to the decent people, obviously.

Sure, that statement is an insult, but good grief. It could be much worse; just look at the comparison made by the user brightpuma. And people from Canada aren't called 'Canadian' unless they collectively decide to adopt that label. Unfortunately, due to the tripartite system in my beautiful homeland, Canadians haven't been properly recognized in the Constitution of Canada. So, that's just how the cookie crumbles.

Thanks for listening.

Man, what a title. 🤦 This thread could easily be renamed LJES—just a dedicated space for moderating specific topics.

I have zero intention of turning this thread into a "small and thin penis" discussion, though it’s definitely heading that way.

I don't think rustydrifter10 is going to jump to any monstrous or idiotic conclusions here, because she hasn't. Nor do I think she's about to spiral into some delusions of being followed or a full-blown persecution complex.

Sophia Thomas7—you keep dodging the point. The core issue isn't about judging my "guilt." The point is that you should apply the same logic when someone questions your competence, your intelligence, or anything else, whether they are one of your forum buddies or someone you can't stand. Otherwise, you aren't being objective. You're basically telling me that if I feel insulted by a post, I should just leave it up to you to decide if it actually was an insult or not. If you decide it wasn't, then I’m supposed to just ignore my own gut feeling and move on? Fine. Or I can fire back with the same energy, which just drags out the flame war and makes me just as "guilty" as the other guy. Or I can ignore it until it happens again. And it always happens again. That’s when we end up here to talk.

What’s even the point of having those red warning flags then?

By the way, why bother with PZK if this kind of trolling is allowed right here?

But honestly, LJES—and this whole site for that matter—isn't supposed to be just spam, trolling, or insults. At least, that shouldn't be the primary focus, especially since anyone can do that. We've had some high-quality threads in the past, like that one from Emeritczi about expectations, and a few others since I joined. Now, LJES is mostly just spam and junk, with the occasional thread that actually has potential for a real conversation. Humor is a different thing entirely; usually, people can tell the difference. If you think what I'm saying has nothing to do with how you moderate, I think you're dead wrong.

hollowmason64, I'm sure you're keeping tabs on my posts, but I'm noticing (not for the first time) that you're drawing the wrong conclusions. If moderation is applied equally to everyone, it significantly lowers the chances of you getting "ripped to shreds" in a thread. Unless, of course, you actually enjoy that. So there. And for the record, Lisa Hernandez3 has much more business being in this thread because she's on PZK, not because of your posts. Do I really need to ask who mentioned, touched you?

hollowtrucker77, that comment from me was a total euphemism. Then again, maybe I didn't know your true nature yet, or maybe that's exactly why I said it.

I think we've pretty much covered the essentials. If rustydrifter10 agrees, I won't drag this thread out any further.

hollowtrucker77 said:Monica, is there some specific reason you decided to single me out in that post of yours about photos?
And then, you go ahead and claim here that "big is beautiful"?
So why on earth are you picking fights with the very people who are actually arguing for that exact sentiment?
The only difference is they aren't talking about your ass, they're talking about penises.
🙂
Then you swoop in and dismiss measurable physical dimensions, labeling both the metrics themselves and anyone who finds them important as shallow and abnormal, opting instead to pivot the conversation toward things that are entirely subjective and impossible to quantify.
So, in this absolute festival of hypocrisy you've staged, the only thing you've actually asserted is that you alone possess the authority to decide which criteria are valid and which decisions carry weight.
Afterwards, once you've spent pages upon pages explaining yourself only to prove you're incapable of both presenting and accepting a coherent argument, we inevitably see another complaint filed with the PZK, demanding the removal of anyone who dared to disagree with you or anyone who simply cannot view you as a serious interlocutor no matter how hard they try.
It’s the exact same routine you and Lisa Hernandez3 pulled back when discussing social sciences, specifically when you failed to successfully play the part of the self-appointed moral authorities and the righteous ones.

And honestly, if you feel personally insulted just because people won't agree with your random, half-baked nonsense, well, that sounds like a personal problem to me.
You can even pretend to be pregnant if it makes you feel better, but don't expect to get child support from this forum.

Of course it exists. In your usual "I’m better than everyone" style, you claimed only losers would hang out with someone who doesn't fit some arbitrary, forum-approved length requirement. Then, in that classic chauvinistic way of yours, you told people to get in line and check for themselves.

Bentley doesn't need an ad. Period. 🤦

So, you're actually standing there telling me "big is beautiful"? Give me a break.

"Big is beautiful." It’s that whole slogan used to back larger women—basically the fashion industry's way of taking a stand against anorexia.

So you just toss out all those measurable metrics entirely, right? You decide that both the numbers themselves and the people obsessed with them are shallow and completely irrational. Instead, you start pivoting the whole conversation toward things that are totally subjective and impossible to quantify.

That’s just plain wrong. My posts are right there on that thread and all the ones next to it.

We’re talking about how this thread is being moderated.

So, basically, in this whole festival of hypocrisy we've got going on here, the only thing you've actually said that rings true is that you think you're the only one allowed to decide what the criteria are and what counts as a valid decision.

Nah, I’m actually backing the idea that everyone deserves the right to be different.

Whether we’re talking about opinions or just pure taste, let's get one thing straight: nobody should be picking fights or mocking someone just because they don't see eye to eye. And please, spare me the sweeping generalizations about "handicaps." Just leave that out of it.

After all that, after pages and pages of you trying to explain yourself, only to end up looking like you're incapable of both making a point and actually hearing one, the same old pattern repeats. Someone files a complaint with the PZK, demanding they kick out anyone who had the nerve to disagree with you.

I didn't say anyone had to "get lost."🙂

You and Lisa Hernandez3 pulled the exact same stunt back when we were dealing with that social sciences thread. You both tried way too hard to act like some kind of moral compasses, playing the part of "the righteous ones" when you clearly aren't. It didn't work then, and it doesn't work now.

What exactly was your role in that thread?

If you’re feeling insulted just because people won't agree with your random bullshit, that’s on you.
You can feel pregnant if it makes you feel better, but don't expect the forum to pay child support.

And what about you guys? You think you're feeling powerful?

Charles Davis88 said:You turn your head on the street because of someone's "opinions"? Seriously?
How does that even work in the real world?

I’m going to pretend I didn't notice the whole mess about the forum fiasco and the neglected kids. You can do much, much better than this.

Au contraire, chérie. Nobody has broken you down into your basic elements quite like Byron did on the previous page...

*My bad! That's how the phrase goes. Basic factors. Not an insult.

I was supposed to write "in the middle school courtyard." Seventh grade. 🤦

Nicholas King said:This brings us to what I consider the absolute core of the communication breakdown between us on this forum—and just to be clear here, providing a bit of a disclaimer so there’s no further wounded ego: when I say there is a "communication problem with you," I am certainly not making some sort of clinical diagnosis about your character or claiming there is an inherent flaw in who you are. I really don't want to deal with any more unnecessary sensitivity. The issue is that you cling—quite stubbornly, if I do say so myself—to these rigid definitions dictated by your profession (whatever that may be, I suppose). You take American terms or expressions, strip them of their actual nuance, and then project a context onto them that simply doesn't exist in our native tongue. It creates this absurd, almost monstrous chain of logic: you take a phrase like "living a simple life," translate it into English, and suddenly decide—as if it were an objective fact—that I was actually calling you a "simpleton." It's a ridiculous leap. 🤦).

You persistently insist that there exists such a thing as an "unprofessional," everyday, conversational vernacular. There is a version of language where people actually say things like "ManU"—and frankly, I think you're missing the point entirely. I suppose I should address this—though I’m not entirely sure why anyone would bother—but there seems to be some sort of... let's call it a "disability" at play here. It’s hard to tell if it's intentional or just a complete lack of capacity, but frankly, it feels like we're dealing with someone who is fundamentally handicapped in their ability to grasp even the most basic concepts. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, really—given the current state of affairs—but it is nonetheless exhausting to witness. If we aren't talking about Rooney—and I mean really digging into the specifics of his situation—then we’re essentially just debating the nuances of the language Mark uses. It’s a bit of a circular argument, isn't it? I guess you could say that without addressing the core issue of Rooney, the entire discussion regarding Mark's linguistic style becomes somewhat moot. Maybe it's just an oversight, but I feel like we're missing the forest for the trees here. I suppose if I have to address this—and frankly, it feels like I’m shouting into a void most days—we need to talk about the sheer level of incompetence being displayed here. It’s almost impressive, in a deeply frustrating sort of way, how consistently people manage to miss the point. I don't mean to be harsh, but let's call it what it is: it's total nonsense. I guess some people just prefer chaos over actual logic, which—if you ask me—is exactly why things stay broken. Due to a complete lack of familiarity with those Latin puns that serve as Monica's favorite pastime—honestly, they can be quite tedious—I find myself stuck. There is actually a specific language where the word for "handicap" translates directly to "an aggravating circumstance, a difficulty, or an obstacle." It’s a rather blunt way to put it, I suppose, but unfortunately, that definition seems to perfectly describe people who are overweight, too short, or just generally disproportionate.

This could actually serve as a useful reality check in an argument—especially if someone like Mark, who was already pretty shaken up by this whole topic, can see clearly that these people acting all "superior" because of a few extra centimeters or some manufactured sense of bravado are just totally average Joes. Honestly, they’re just regular people you wouldn't even give a second glance to if you passed them on a street corner in Chicago.

You’re essentially just confirming my exact point here—if you look at this through the lens of contraposition, you're actually admitting that Mark has every reason to feel the way he does. Taking a moment to reflect on everyone's various positions... Then there are those people whose profile pictures basically scream that they aren't exactly "just regular folks." Aside from being a massive headache for Mark—not to mention how much of a mess it makes things—it is just incredibly bizarre to see someone using their physical appearance as some kind of badge of legitimacy for the opinions they post on this forum. I mean, honestly, since when does what you look like have anything to do with the arguments you're making? It’s just strange.

So, if we were to consider the possibility... Average. Just... average. Those photos were supposed to calm down Mark—given his small and thin penis—and maybe take the edge off his mental instability. If we’re actually following your logic here, once this small and thin penis version of Mark gets a look at a photo of an above-average torso, what exactly is he expected to do? I mean, what's the endgame?

Finally—even if you actually buy into that whole theory about average looks you're typing out right now (which, if you ask me, seems like a massive stretch)—I still find myself questioning the logic behind it. I suppose I should probably address this matter directly—though I've been hesitant to weigh in until I had more clarity. It seems there’s some ongoing discussion regarding the recent developments, and frankly, my patience for the ambiguity surrounding them is wearing thin. I have certain reservations about how everything is being handled, and if I'm being completely honest, it feels like we're just spinning our wheels at this point. Maybe I'm being too cautious, or maybe I'm just seeing the cracks that everyone else is choosing to ignore—but I suspect it's the latter. There is a certain level of inconsistency here that simply cannot be overlooked if we want any semblance of progress. After you went ahead and wrote something like that—in what I can only assume was a moment of total lack of judgment—into what kind of context (aside from being just plain childish)... The arguments being presented here—if you can even call them that—are frankly exhausting. It feels like we’re circling the drain of logic, constantly hitting the same dead ends without any real progress toward a coherent point. I mean, I suppose if one's goal is to simply shout into the void, then this approach works perfectly fine, but if there was any actual intention to build a case, we are miles away from it. Every single point seems to lack a foundation, relying more on sheer stubbornness than anything resembling a factual basis or a structured line of reasoning. It’s just... frustrating, really. One would think that after all this back-and-forth, someone might actually present a cohesive thought, yet here we are again, wading through the same shallow justifications. I mean, this whole "you show me yours, I'll show you mine" little dick-comparison game—shouldn't you have actually followed up with, "Okay, then I'll post my photo too"? Honestly, since you seem completely unable to see how absurd you’ve made this entire situation by being so provocative only to chicken out the second you actually received a photo... it’s just pathetic.

You constantly harp on about how nothing rattles you—how you’re so incredibly resilient, so tough, so unshakable—but if that were actually true, why don't you just stay in the fight for once? You charge into these arguments like some kind of hero, only to immediately start calling for backup the second someone talks back to you. It’s honestly ridiculous; instead of standing your ground, you immediately try to summon the cavalry, the police, the UN Peacekeeping Forces, the Blue Phone, or that Society for Protecting Forum Members from Insult. If you were half as strong as you claim to be, you might actually try holding your own without running to the authorities at the first sign of resistance.

Since you’re going to persist in mocking me by backhandedly slapping that "forum legend" label on my head—all while acting like it's some sort of compliment—I might as well address it directly. Please note, It was an insulting—well, let's call it a blatant—insinuation that I went ahead and proclaimed myself to be nothing more than some kind of... well, you know. A total forum legend. Even if I were to write from your perspective—which, let’s be honest, is a bit of a stretch—I could tell you this: anyone who stays active around here eventually builds a certain reputation among the other members. As for my own image? It varies wildly depending on who you ask. If I actually showed up at an online community mixer or some local meetup, I suppose I might even get a few drinks comped, though I have a nagging suspicion I’d end up far more intoxicated than intended. 😁. Even so, I somehow maintain the belief that even those folks who would probably love to perform some sort of voodoo ritual on my posts actually respect the fact that I’ve never once called for backup or run to report the other side during an argument—I prefer to fight my own battles, solo.

(Disclaimer: this post isn't off-topic by any means: I could have easily written a complete analysis of this "argumentation technology"—which is a problem in much more than just this single instance—without relying on specific examples or analogies, but honestly, that would be tedious to write, let alone boring to read 🙂).

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Nothing less than "monstrous," huh?

This has absolutely nothing to do with language translation. You guys really stepped up... Condescending. Just like on that other thread, I gave you guys my answer, took the hit, and moved on. But instead, you all just keep dragging this out, obsessing over some "monstrous trail" of nonsense. And of course, in the very next post, you’d probably find the energy to write another damn essay about it. Seriously, what actually drives you people to do this?

There’s this specific way people use the word "handicap"—treating it like some kind of inherent obstacle or a built-in disadvantage. It’s a shame, really, because that’s exactly how people view anyone who doesn't fit the mold: the overweight, the short, the too muscular, or the too skinny. They just see those traits as flaws that hold you back.

Yeah, it exists. Discriminatory language. It’s everywhere. Honestly, it’s exhausting. What do you even call people like that? "Handicap enthusiasts"? Except they aren't actually handicapped, and they certainly don't have any centimeters to speak of. Thanks.

You're just proving my point: if you flip that logic on its head, you're basically admitting that Mark actually has a legitimate reason. Just looking back at everyone's takes. Then there are the people whose profile pictures prove they aren't exactly "just average Joes." Aside from being a total headache for Mark, it’s just weird when someone uses their physical appearance as a way to validate the opinions they post on this forum.

Everyone on these forums seems to be "gifted" in their own special ways. It comes up all the time in threads like this one. Obviously, it’s not a universal rule, but you definitely see those weird patterns where the ugly guys are actually good-looking, or the weak ones turn out to be strong. That’s why I even brought it up. Besides, I only wrote that post because I was honestly pissed off at how pathetic the moderation has been over the last few months. If the mods actually did their jobs, these discussions wouldn't even exist. By the time I finally posted on page 16, a whole barrage of provocations and mockery had already gone down—only it wasn't directed at me, it was all aimed at von Teesa.

Another woman on this forum just went through the exact same treatment.

Then some guy gets banned on the exact same thread—just because he didn't parrot the OP's opinion. He was just pointing out 286 different ways that having a small and thin penis basically means you're lacking functionality.

And now we just wait for someone to take the bait. Honestly, it feels pretty much in line with how this place operates. 🤦

Finally. Even if you actually buy into that whole "average looks" theory you’re typing out right now (which, to me, looks like a massive izmicaus after you blurted out something stupid in a moment of weakness).

Yeah, I said it in a moment of stupidity.
Then I reported the insults.
But nothing happened. No moderation response, even though they move lightning fast whenever someone directs an insult toward them.

So here I am. Explaining myself fifteen different ways in this thread to people who clearly don't want to get it.

You keep insisting you're hard to rattle, that you're tough, strong, and all that—so why don't you actually show some of that supposed backbone? Instead of jumping into fights like a coward and then immediately calling in the cavalry, the police, the UN Peacekeeping Forces, the blue phone, and the society for protecting forum members from insult?

I am not repeating it constantly.

This is a thread specifically about complaints and questions regarding how the mods handle things. My original post was meant for rustydrifter10. Unfortunately, she couldn't reply immediately, so things just spiraled from there.

Since you’re so hell-bent on mocking me by snidely labeling me some kind of "forum legend" (while—note well, insulting—insinuating that I personally declared myself to be some kind of forum legend and that I write from that position), let me tell you this:

I didn't say it snidely, and I wasn't trying to insult any of you. If I did, I'm sorry.

By the way, I feel pretty insulted by the way you guys are handling the discussion in this specific thread, too.

dustyranger64 said:

So, nothing listed is a handicap, yet they're still suffering despite having no handicap. Not an oxymoron at all!
The whole "bullying" spin doesn't fly with me. This started when some women voiced their preferences, and then certain people started attacking them, calling them shallow, heartless, or crazy.
That's a nasty, dirty way to spin it.

"Perfect" only exists in your head. Nobody you're constantly dragging actually called themselves perfect or even hinted at it. You're the only one throwing that word around. No one else has mentioned it.

Honestly, this is such a wild example of how a totally harmless topic about preferences can spiral into a 71-page war because one user keeps attacking anyone with a different opinion. Now the admins are looking at us.

People. They start believing. Look, if you consider it a handicap, then fine. Whatever. If someone actually has some damn confidence, they aren't going to lose sleep over a few inches or how thick things are. Honestly, "big is beautiful" should be the rule here—not that anyone would listen. It’s hard to take anything seriously when the whole fashion industry and the entire gay media machine are constantly pushing this ridiculous "size 8" obsession on everyone. It's just pure idiocy.

The whole "bullying" spin isn't working. It all fell apart once some women started speaking up about how this stuff actually bothers them. Instead of listening, certain people just jumped down their throats, calling them shallow, heartless, or straight-up crazy. It’s pathetic.
Ugly and disgusting spin.

What you wrote there is the absolute peak of spin. Honestly, you can’t go any further with that level of distortion. That's just how you roll, obviously.

This. This is my second post on this thread. Everything that’s been repeated over and over since then already happened. You, on the other hand, have already dumped about twenty posts into this topic, obviously.

"Perfect" only exists inside your head. None of those people you’re constantly dragging actually called themselves that, nor did they even hint at it. You’re the only one throwing that word around like it means something. Nobody else has ever mentioned it.

No, my point was that you were implying I only have a thing for morbidly obese women with genetic disorders—I can't even remember the whole "epic" saga we went through. I was just trying to explain to you that you're dead wrong.

You went way too far at one point. Yeah, I'm talking to you—on that other thread.

Honestly, this whole thing is just a textbook example of how a totally harmless debate about personal preferences can spiral out of control. It somehow turned into a massive 71-page blowout just because one woman decided to go on a crusade against anyone who didn't agree with her. Now, the admins are actually looking at it.

Yeah, sure. Whatever you say. Here we go. Here’s my third post on this thread. I'm going in guns blazing. No holding back.

Lord Byron Frank Williams7 said:Why is having a small and thin dick considered a handicap that's supposedly off-limits to even mention, yet being overweight, bald, or short isn't treated the same way? What's the logic there? Does it mean if someone is struggling because they're carrying an extra 65 pounds, I should just shrug and tell them, "Hey, don't sweat it, it's not really a handicap, so just get over it"? It doesn't add up.

Nah, you're supposed to give them some fake, hypocritical sympathy to their face, then turn around and tear them apart behind their back—or on forums, anyway. That’s basically the rulebook for losers.

It’s definitely not a handicap. Check a dictionary if you don't believe me.🙂

Lord Byron said:Using someone's appearance as an argument in a debate can work—but how? Don't you see that by doing this, even if you aren't conscious of it, you're actually fighting against everything you claim to stand for? If you deny someone the right to express an opinion based on how they look—or worse, try to play amateur psychologist by claiming their views stem from their physical appearance—you're actually giving full legitimacy to anyone else who looks just as "unimpressive" to voice those same views.

Actually, it *can* be used in a debate. It works when people like Mark, who was part of that thread and got hit hard by it, see plainly and clearly that these "superior" types—whether by a few inches or just their attitude—are really just regular folks whose opinions wouldn't earn a second glance on a street corner in Chicago.

I'm going to pretend I didn't notice that whole mess about the "forum fiasco" and the neglected kids. You can do way better than that.

Charles Davis88, I’ve got a serious issue with your rude posts.

But don't get it twisted—I didn't come here just to pick a fight with you.

Hopefully, the Site Admins can actually see what's going on here.

Nicholas King said:I was just expressing this exact sentiment—regarding the push to use political correctness as the primary benchmark for whether a post or an entire thread is deemed "acceptable."

Whether we are talking about people with a small and thin penis, girls with small breasts, people with oversized noses or ears, the balding, the unintelligent, the uneducated, the witless, the short, the overweight, or the underweight... in every single one of those groups, you are going to find plenty of individuals who are suffering. And what is our solution then? Are we supposed to just sterilize every single discussion that might, even remotely, remind someone of their handicap? If we do that, what is actually left for a forum discussion—aside from, of course, endlessly singing hymns to our own perceived perfection? 🥳

Furthermore, the idea that someone's suffering will be significantly lessened simply because we all collectively and cooperatively decide to stay silent about the problem... well, I guess that's just a little bit ridiculous.

Hey, reality check time. 🙂 Seventy-one pages of the exact same thing from the exact same people.😉

As for the rest, I’ll just say it: none of the stuff mentioned above counts as a handicap.

And—God help me—spare me the "perfect" people. Not only do they not exist outside of their own heads, but life would be incredibly boring if you were constantly surrounded by them.

hollowmason64 said:See, there it is—on one hand, you’re complaining about how people talk to you, but on the other, you’re doing the exact same thing by throwing those little snarky jabs between the lines. 🤣
The difference is, unlike you, I don't have a hard time realizing this is just a forum, a bit of digital entertainment. I can either dish it right back or just ignore it... it's really not that deep. 🤷

I don't see why you're playing the victim here, especially since that's clearly not who you are. And honestly, who said you had to move anywhere? If this kind of joking really bothers you that much, I was just suggesting you maybe look into a more "serious" way of communicating via PDF or just adapt to the vibe that usually rules on LJES. 🤷
At the end of the day, you admitted it's you versus a few others, so it might be worth considering if you're overreacting a bit. It's unlikely everyone else is wrong and you're the only one holding the truth.

I think you were just mentioning a discussion you were involved in recently regarding "privileged" people, so you should probably know.
Personally, I'm totally over all this talk about privilege. 🙄

It isn't even about "right vs. wrong" anymore. It’s about how people actually talk to each other in this thread and the ones next to it. Things went south when I stopped trying to play nice or just throw out some lighthearted jabs and instead started calling people out directly. Turns out, these forum users can't handle being challenged—not even a little bit. That’s on them, obviously, but it became my headache the second they started spewing absolute nonsense without any moderation stepping in to shut it down.

First you said you’d "keep quiet," and now suddenly you’re claiming that playing the victim isn't my style. Of course it isn't. I don't feel like one, so why would I act like one?

Colbert. Honestly, I don't know what to make of him lately. He’s got that whole late-night routine down, sure, but sometimes it feels like he's just spinning his wheels. It's fine if you want that kind of predictable commentary, but I need something with more grit. Just my two cents. kaže:
You're kidding me, I assume... 😕

You basically sank the entire thread just to take a shot at a few of us regarding small and thin dicks. Real classy move. Let’s take this public (!!!) They post those photos of themselves, basically implying we're all ugly if we don't fall in line. It’s such a cheap tactic. Look, setting that aside for a second—I haven't even been part of this conversation for the last few pages or so. I was totally out of the loop.

You think this is how a decent person behaves when they're arguing on LIES? 🤷
I'm not even talking about that specific post. I mean the whole strategy of baiting people with a post just to trigger a reaction, and then showing up later to whine like a total PZK.
If you can't handle a little verbal ping-pong, go find some other sport where you can shine all by yourself while an audience claps for you.
Family and friends.
Someone.

First off, let's get one thing straight: this thread didn't sink. You can easily check the timestamps on my post versus the last one if you actually bother to look. So yeah, you're just making stuff up.

I suggested we all post photos—not because I wanted to prove everyone is ugly, but to show that we’re all just normal people. I wanted to cut through the constant mocking of anyone who isn't "blessed" in certain departments (if you can even call having a small and thin dick a blessing), but clearly, my attempt at demystifying things was a total bust.

Look, Pljesak—I am definitely not the one for you. Anyway, that bit at the end of your post? Total classic. That awkward moment when you overstepped way too far into someone's private business, right? 😉

Thanks for the suggestion, but there’s really no need for that Whereabout.

hollowmason64 said:I don't really track which posts I've made here or anything, honestly—I'm only around once in a blue moon Godly enough to participate 😁
...though I honestly can't see why anyone would care about my total post count on here anyway. 🤷

That being said, lately I’ve been popping onto LJES pretty regularly, and watching you there, it seems like you're constantly hunting for some kind of justice. People are just rude to you, they insult you, or they talk down to you... it feels like almost every thread you're active in, you eventually end up dealing with some kind of backlash because of how people are treating you.
From my perspective, I have to ask—why do you keep going back to a place where you clearly don't feel welcome? 🤷

Look, I know there are folks on this forum who suffer from a bit of paranoia, and I stumble upon those rants about privileged people all the time 🙏, but—do you truly believe that people actually have something really against you personally? 🙄
It’s obvious the way people communicate there doesn't sit right with you, so I just don't get why you don't just find a PDF version of the content that might suit your style better? 🤷

Well, you do it all the time anyway. It’s practically your routine.

Lately, I’ve been hanging around LJES pretty much every day, which gives me a front-row seat to your endless crusade for justice. It's wild. Honestly, people there are just straight-up rude to you—they insult you, they talk down to you... it's constant. In almost every thread where you actually show up and contribute, you eventually end up having to call out how poorly everyone is treating you.

It’s always the same group of people. Honestly, maybe the problem really is me. Maybe I should just crawl into some obscure, remote corner of a message board and stay far away from them. But that's just not how I roll.

Look, I’m still lost from that whole discussion in the men's corner, so I’m gonna ask you again—why on earth would you head to a place when you already know you aren't feeling up to it? 🤷

I’m diving into some threads just to see what kind of trouble I can stir up, regardless of which subforum they're in.

I know for a fact that some people on this forum are suffering from straight-up paranoia. Every other day, I end up stumbling onto these rants about "privileged" users.🙏But seriously—do you actually think people have anything at all? Exactly. Against you? Seriously? 🙄

Alright, Doc, since you're the undisputed expert on these wild forum games that have absolutely no boundaries—which specific individuals are we talking about here?

Look, if you're clearly not feeling the vibe of how people talk over there, I don't get why you haven't just hunted down a PDF that actually suits your style better. Why deal with the headache? 🤷

I already gave you an answer to that question.

hollowmason64 said:If the kind of politics you’re talking about actually starts taking over LJES, the whole place is going to completely fall apart. Nicholas King used the perfect word for it—and honestly, let me tell you, it was a struggle not to just nod along while reading that. 😢)
I tried going down this road about two years ago, and honestly, it was a total wash. I spent months scrolling through threads, hunting for anything remotely interesting or fun to read, let alone something actually worth replying to. It just wasn't happening.

At the end of the day, the only one coming in here whining and crying is Frank Williams7. Honestly, if the entire moderation team is going to start policing everything based on one person's constant complaining, then screw that. I'm not interested in following a policy like that. 🤷

Sorry, I have to ask you—do you have any masochistic tendencies? 🤷
You’re constantly complaining about how people on LJES are insulting you or that they aren't treating you with the level of respect you think you deserve. Honestly, I’m just a bit confused—why on earth would you keep hanging out there if it makes you feel that bad? If a place makes you miserable, why stay? 😕

Look, I’ll set aside my own thoughts on whether your whining and constant complaining are actually justified for a second. This forum has dozens of different PDF threads where you could dive into much more specific discussions—topics that are moderated in a way that's a bit more "old school," which I'm guessing would suit your taste much better. Honestly, I really don't get why you haven't just moved over to one of those instead? 🤷

Don't sweat it. It’s not going to be stingy, and it definitely isn't because of me.

At the end of the day, the only person around here acting like a total crybaby is Frank Williams7. Seriously, if the entire PDF is going to start moderating based on one woman's whining, then screw that. I’m done with that kind of policy. 🤷

Is it even worth engaging with someone who rolls up to you with the sole intention of being an asshole? I mean, they aren't there for a debate; they’re just looking for a reaction. Honestly, ignoring them doesn't seem to cut it either. It’s a lose-lose situation.

Aside from the fact that I’ve never once whined in my entire life, 🙂 Look, you’re out here spreading nothing but straight-up lies.

I’ve spent quite a bit of time filing complaints over at the PZK. I was involved in that whole mess surrounding ZgSash, those warnings on MK that ended up getting me banned back in the day, and that time it was me versus Charles Davis88, Apophis, and ZgSash over on DZ—plus everything happening right now. Oh, and I also jumped in to back up Alex one day during that debate she had with Slafka.

Alright, so we're looking at four different scenarios here.

I’m pretty sure your post count in this men's corner is way higher than mine.

Sophia Thomas7 said:Look, we have endless threads like this on LJES. Should we just lock every single discussion just because someone’s feelings get hurt? Just because they aren't getting a pat on the back and are instead facing reality? Of course, the nasty, abusive stuff needs to be removed and users banned, but most posts aren't even like that. We can't exactly police whether some random person feels offended by reading a thread.

If we followed that logic, any topic involving personal preferences would either have to be locked down or completely sanitized.

You're talking from a moderator's perspective here. I don't follow every single thread on LJES, so I'll take your word for it.

I just hope the toxic crap gets scrubbed (not that I'm a huge fan of banning people, but a girl can dream), regardless of which direction the conversation goes.

It’s just much easier to spot "The Weakest Link" when things get crude, rather than spotting the old-timers (what a ridiculous word). Specifically, I'm thinking about that guy "Devil in the Snow"—based on how you describe LJES, he was the perfect example: totally unhinged and constantly spamming, which is why he got banned. He annoyed the hell out of me too with his trolling, but honestly, he wasn't even the worst kid on the playground—so that's saying something.

Charles Davis88, honey, I was actually thinking of Nicholas King, but sure, I'll lump you in with that group too. 😁

I'll zapamticati the advice from Henry Edwards33, the "King" of LJES, along with the responsibility of maintaining a reputation that comes with the title. I can only imagine. 🤣

Alright Charles Davis88, we’re looking at a spectrum here—ranging from selective ignorance to total, willful blindness, depending on whether the issue hits home personally or not.

I don't feel like dragging this out any further. I highly doubt we're ever going to see eye to eye on this.

Nicholas King said:I’ve read the post by rustydrifter10 five times now—there isn't a single mention of her specific name, so searching for it is just a waste of time. 😕

But, if you're asking whether she got caught in the crossfire, yes—but let’s move past the "how" and "why" or what percentage of the blame she bears for creating this whole mess ourselves.

This is a situation that is incredibly typical for LJES, one that you all really ought to discuss and take a stand on: what is the proper response when someone crashes a half-assed thread and starts acting all high and mighty and moralizing? Honestly, I find it just as offensive when people try to condescendingly disqualify participants from a thread by labeling them as "this kind of person" or "that kind of person"—simply because they started joking around—along with that excessive moralizing drenched in political correctness. That kind of behavior is exactly what consistently produces the aforementioned crossfire.

Look, I wasn't really preaching or being a moralist, and I definitely wasn't the only one voicing a different opinion—though we all hit the same wall.

You want to know where the real issue lies? It's that guys and men dealing with a small and thin penis actually suffer for it. It legitimately wrecks their self-esteem, and you can bet they've been reading this thread. If you could just step out of your "one of the legends forum hr." persona for a second and move into "I'm a flawed human being but still a decent person" mode, you might ask yourself why these guys are struggling. The answer is simple: it's the bullying from the "gifted" crowd and their constant need to dominate the space. It doesn't matter if it's a "funny" nose shape, a lack of wit, or a small and thin penis—the conclusion is the same. It's unfair, and it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with them.

Maybe the fix for this whole mess is for the forum dinosaurs to finally learn some restraint.

Charles Davis88 said:Fine. I can wait a few days too, just so you can explain why you're accusing me of being so rude.

It certainly looks that way to me. I’ve already laid out the timeline—just go back and look at the posts by Apophis that came right before this.

When things started heating up, some guy claiming he was "reading my mind" 🙄 jumped in to explain "what I actually needed." I didn't notice you using your massive stash of sarcasm to turn the attention back on him. Plus, there was zero reaction from the mods.

But when people started bringing up your private life? That was a totally different story. It was explicitly stated that anyone mentioning your privacy again would get slapped with a warning card, which is fair enough.

Then, someone jumps in and starts openly insulting Alex and 4fun—bam, instant ban. Exactly how it should be.

After that, the guy makes an alt account just to insult the moderation team—reaction? Immediate ban and his posts deleted.

So, yeah, the difference in how they handle things is pretty obvious. Now, please, walk me through how that's "fair," and feel free to use plenty of emojis while you're at it.

p.s. If I recall correctly, I didn't report "phraseology," just "corrections." I reported a few posts back then because that's what the system suggests doing—but nothing happened until this thread popped up. Honestly, I rarely bother reporting anything.

Nicholas King said:As much as that might seem like a good idea—or even a self-evident necessity—it’s ultimately going to end up being nothing more than pointless pedantry from the LJES council.

To start with, there are incredibly few topics that would be exclusively LJES-related; almost any serious "L" topic, or a decent chunk of the "E" topics, could easily fit into either the US section or ŽuD. Consequently, what's left for LJES are mostly "S" topics—and if you actually take those seriously, they could just as easily live under "Health."

A long, long time ago, I (quite wisely and presciently 🥳) suggested that we create a sub-forum on LJES similar to a "chicken coop," where the rules would be a bit more relaxed—allowing for much more banter. I think I even proposed some (witty and clever 🥳) name for that specific thread, though I can't recall it now. That could potentially be one way to handle this.

Honestly, I don't grasp this sudden urge to enforce "lower tolerance for this and that" across the entire forum, while leaving MK as this untouchable exception where basically anything goes. I don't see why people who, for whatever reason, don't feel at home in MK shouldn't have other spaces where they can post a bit more casually.

BTW, I am not an advocate for insults, nor do I insult anyone—but, it really is grotesque when someone who is usually perfectly pleasant narcissistic rage suddenly starts whining the moment a diagnosis is applied to them.

That isn't even remotely ridiculous, and I've already explained myself. I went public on the thread after a few days because I realized how things were going down, and I won't be doing that again. 😁

rustydrifter10 said:You really have strong opinions and you know how to present them, but you can be so sensitive, dear. I don't mean that as a flaw, it's just that it seems like it ends up hurting you. You get so emotionally invested, pouring your heart into things even when it might not be necessary, and then those replies come back at you—written with a similar tone but coming from a totally different perspective—and they hit you hard.

I really hope you don't take these words as a criticism; it's just an observation I've gathered while reading your posts. I can see how much you love a good debate (in the general sense), and it makes me sad to see it causing you such negative emotions. Think of this as just one forum regular talking to another; I'm stripping away any authoritative tone because I don't want to sound like I'm lecturing you.

I totally hear you, and I mentioned earlier that some of those posts really should have been flagged or deleted. I'm hoping the communication in that thread levels up a bit moving forward. I'll definitely try to keep an eye on the topic as much as I can.

I agree completely, and we're actually trying to pull in some extra help. Because there are only two of them, they just can't keep up with everything or catch every single thing, especially if they're heavily involved in the discussions themselves. Even I find myself getting sucked into a debate and drifting away with the rest of the crew sometimes. 🙈

That’s exactly why I’m here. 🙂

I'm not angry at all. Honestly, that's just who I am. I'm passionate by nature and I react strongly to "right vs. wrong," especially if there's a glaring inequality involved. If I see someone getting jumped on a street corner in the US, I'm not just going to walk past, even if it puts me in danger. Life would be way simpler if I wasn't wired this way, but I am. And I won't lie—there are parts of me that are actually proud of that, despite what it's cost me in certain situations. But hey, this is just an online forum, and I need to rein in that impulse for my own sake. You're absolutely right.

I hear you, and like I said before, some posts should have been banned or deleted. I think the conversation will level up from here. I'll definitely try to keep following the thread as much as I can.

This thread brought out some extreme views, but honestly, you see these same patterns popping up in other topics too.

I also find myself getting sucked into arguments and spiraling along with the rest of the group sometimes. 🙈

Alright, point taken. 😉

By the way, is there any chance I can change my username anytime soon?

rustydrifter10 said:I’ve gone through most of this thread now, and... wow. Just, uh. Wow. 🤦

Honestly, looking back at the thread, I feel like way too many posts escaped being banned, even though if you ask me, they really should have been nuked. It was just a complete free-for-all—people were throwing insults around, trolling left and right, and hitting each other with those annoying ad hominem attacks... it was just everything, all at once. Personally, I’m of the mind that if a post doesn't have a damn good reason to stay up, it should be wiped from the board. If we actually enforced that, half of those toxic posts and the messy reactions they triggered probably wouldn't have even happened in the first place.

Personally, I don't think I’d be the right fit for a moderator role on LJES. I truly feel that the PDF deserves a much "softer" touch when it comes to moderation, but even looking at it from a leadership perspective, I think things have gone a bit too far in some places lately. Now, don't get me wrong—TetaU2 and Sophia Thomas7 are excellent mods, but we were actually just discussing how we should approach the PDF with a bit less zero-tolerance toward insults and aggressive trolling. I really hope to see that shift happen soon! That being said, my vision isn't about handing out bans for every little thing or turning the place into a sterile zone where jokes, casual off-topic chat, or even a heated debate are completely forbidden.

Just like a few of the others have been pushing the envelope lately, you’ve definitely crossed some lines in your own posts too. This whole thread is just loaded with double entendres, and honestly, you've been right in the thick of it. :/

I really appreciate all the good intentions being thrown around here, I truly do, but I feel like we’re starting to lose the plot between these two different threads. Anderlon originally kicked this one off with the specific goal of addressing a few key questions, but it’s morphed into something else entirely. It’s turned into this massive catch-all space where any member of the administration feels like they should jump in whenever they want or feel necessary. Because people are bouncing back and forth between topics so much, it’s getting harder to tell what actually belongs here, and we're definitely losing that sense of continuity in the discussions.

The core concept behind having separate threads—one strictly for questions and another for general discussion—is actually pretty solid. For a while there, both served their purposes perfectly and kept things moving along smoothly. But honestly, as time goes on, trying to maintain that specific structure has become a real headache, and let's be real, it’s getting pretty inefficient too. I haven't quite decided on my next move yet, but I'm definitely looking at shaking things up and making some changes soon.

Alright rustydrifter10, do you seriously think I'm on this forum to teach anyone how to communicate? I have my own limits on what I'll put up with, just like everyone else.

From—and I hate to say it—bad experience dealing with trolls on a DZ thread before, I learned that once you're tangled up in that mess, the chances of untangling it constructively are slim to none. That’s basically why I didn't react to Apophisov's post in the men's corner the moment it was written. However, when Charles Davis88 wrote the exact same thing, I hit my limit for crude insults.

The reality is that the "forum legends" or Untouchables in this sub-forum are incredibly visible and protected like little teddy bears. They can jump into any thread whenever they want just for kicks, without any moderation stepping in. In my opinion, the disclaimer for this sub-forum should read: "Not for those who can't handle being trolled by the squad." If you can't handle people not being sweet and precious to you, well... tough luck. The only thing people forget is that we shouldn't barge into someone's living room or... hm... a club when we enter this corner. It's childish and honestly ridiculous, but that's how it is.

At the same time, negative comments aimed at the moderators are removed with extreme efficiency. That isn't right, regardless of how much people try to rationalize the way things are moderated.

I've got nothing against Tete2U or Sophia Thomas7, but I really think this sub-forum needs more moderators. From where I'm sitting, this place felt much more welcoming back when Afrika_Paprika, wiredfalcon2, and Violently were around. It doesn't matter if it's them or ten other people, I just think there's an acute need for more hands on deck.

Thanks for looking through the thread.