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Reddit Alternative - Topics Vaccination, Chemtrails II, Water, Living Beings, and Raw Food
>Note: I apologize for the length of this post and the sheer volume of evidence provided—it simply wouldn't fit in a single entry. However, I wanted to back up my claims thoroughly and provide the clearest possible picture of the situation, as I feel that providing only five or six examples wouldn't constitute much of a case.>
So, it seems that within these specific threads, a handful of members have been allowed to consistently violate our forum rules for quite some time now, with briskbison55 being the most prominent offender.
As evidence, I have included several posts below that breach our guidelines.
Vaccination Thread:>
Hate speech and incitement to violence - briskbison55 openly suggests that anyone with a differing opinion should be thrown in jail and physically beaten. The rest of the post follows an aggressive, argumentative tone, filled with assertions that lack any sources, logic, or actual proof.
Insulting other users by calling one a "scumbag"; while at it, they also belittle and discriminate against certain professions (drivers), all without offering any relevant arguments pertaining to the topic.
In this instance, they once again label anyone who doesn't share their exact mindset as a scumbag.
Right here, Mirko_M insults a user by suggesting their mother raised them to be stupid.
Chemtrails II Thread:>
When Jason Grant asked if there was even a single post where they didn't insult their interlocutor, briskbison55 responded with more insults, calling the users idiots.>
Disparagement based on nationality:
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>They insult users by calling them "papists.">
This is just one of many examples where someone plays dumb and asks questions that have already been answered numerous times in the thread. Simultaneously, they pivot to a completely different subject (vaccination) solely to provoke others.
Yet another example of insulting and belittling fellow users.>
An example from the Water, Living Beings thread:>
Laplace spends the entire post exclusively insulting users, with absolutely no connection to the actual topic at hand.
Examples from the Raw Food thread:>
Trolling and provoking users without presenting any arguments or staying on topic:
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Even though at the end of this post claims that comparing someone to an animal is the same as calling them a moron, he actually does exactly that several times himself:
(an example from the Chemtrails ii thread)
Another example:
And one more:
Regarding the habit of calling interlocutors "mindless animals," I should mention that I've received a warning for much milder things, solely because I included pictures of sheep in a post (Carol Lopez23 explained to me that according to the rules, you aren't allowed to compare people to animals).
I honestly have no idea which rule that is, nor can I see how it was applied to these specific examples from briskbison55.
Here, he's being insulting by calling a user an idiot. This post has nothing to do with the subject matter; it's just pure bickering.
It’s the same old story, happening all over again—and honestly, they’re practically admitting to it at this point:
Insulting and disparaging your fellow interlocutors:
In the following section, the user goes on to call the other forum members complete idiots:
In the end, he actually goes as far as calling people fools himself—and apparently, nobody is stopping him from exercising that particular right.
Here. He actually goes so far as to advocate for and justify animal cruelty and violence—things that are strictly illegal here in the States. Regarding the forum rules... (First point).
The rest of this entry is also off-topic:
Here, we see a user calling someone else an idiot while basically admitting they are one too:
This is just a needless post—totally off-topic and clearly aimed at starting a fight rather than discussing anything meaningful.
It's pure harassment of other users and completely irrelevant to the discussion.
In this part, they throw out these totally unsubstantiated claims about "black pork bacon" and processed tomatoes without citing a single credible source, all while mocking "obscure" websites that they haven't even actually named. To top it off, they dismiss something entirely unrelated to the thread as stupidity, even though nobody had even mentioned it in the first place.
Just classic trolling, going off-topic, and accusing others of pushing some kind of agenda... an agenda in a thread about healthy eating... honestly, what can you even say to that?
Moving further down the same post—more bickering with zero connection to the actual topic:
Mocking and belittling other participants:
Just trolling and throwing out provocations that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic at hand:
It honestly feels like nothing more than trolling, endless bickering, and just trying to bait people into an argument. It’s the same old pattern: throwing out claims that have been officially debunked, scientifically refuted, and practically disproven ages ago—all without offering a single shred of actual evidence or a credible source to back them up.
Here. He mentions... I suppose we’re talking about an Austrian house painter now? It feels like such a specific detail to bring up out of nowhere, but I guess there's a reason for it. Maybe it's just one of those random observations that sticks in your mind. It’s hard to ignore that blatant insinuation toward Hitler, who remains one of the most horrific criminals in all of history. He just keeps on poking the bear and engaging in these constant provocations, even though his post has absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic at hand.
Here. In the middle of this heated back-and-forth, they’re actually bringing up Hitler again, making some pretty disturbing references to his "final solution." It's honestly unsettling to see that kind of rhetoric resurfacing in an argument like this.
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Reddit Alternative - Topics Vaccination, Chemtrails II, Water, Living Beings, and Raw Food
>Note: I apologize for the length of this post and the sheer volume of evidence provided—it simply wouldn't fit in a single entry. However, I wanted to back up my claims thoroughly and provide the clearest possible picture of the situation, as I feel that providing only five or six examples wouldn't constitute much of a case.>
So, it seems that within these specific threads, a handful of members have been allowed to consistently violate our forum rules for quite some time now, with briskbison55 being the most prominent offender.
As evidence, I have included several posts below that breach our guidelines.
Vaccination Thread:>
Hate speech and incitement to violence - briskbison55 openly suggests that anyone with a differing opinion should be thrown in jail and physically beaten. The rest of the post follows an aggressive, argumentative tone, filled with assertions that lack any sources, logic, or actual proof.
Insulting other users by calling one a "scumbag"; while at it, they also belittle and discriminate against certain professions (drivers), all without offering any relevant arguments pertaining to the topic.
In this instance, they once again label anyone who doesn't share their exact mindset as a scumbag.
Right here, Mirko_M insults a user by suggesting their mother raised them to be stupid.
Chemtrails II Thread:>
When Jason Grant asked if there was even a single post where they didn't insult their interlocutor, briskbison55 responded with more insults, calling the users idiots.>
Disparagement based on nationality:
Quote:
| briskbison55 says: [URL='showthread.php?p=61849861#post61849861']> >in Mexico, the air is laden with various substances that strip away reason and logic but merely stimulate the urge to type the same mantra over and over without any basis. |
This is just one of many examples where someone plays dumb and asks questions that have already been answered numerous times in the thread. Simultaneously, they pivot to a completely different subject (vaccination) solely to provoke others.
Yet another example of insulting and belittling fellow users.>
An example from the Water, Living Beings thread:>
Laplace spends the entire post exclusively insulting users, with absolutely no connection to the actual topic at hand.
Examples from the Raw Food thread:>
Trolling and provoking users without presenting any arguments or staying on topic:
Quote:
| briskbison55 says: Not quite. It’s been said in many places that those who refuse to listen to your ramblings (or rather, your baseless theories) are just sheep following a shepherd. Repeating the same thing over and over is essentially parrot-like communication—some might call it trolling, if that’s more your speed. The rest, as usual, was just nonsense and an attempt to focus on me instead of sticking to the actual topic. I'll give you a five out of ten there. I actually learned back in elementary school that humans are the only conscious beings on this planet, so comparing someone to an animal is really just a polite way of calling them a moron. |
(an example from the Chemtrails ii thread)
briskbison55 said:Before a few parrots showed up here, there were even aeronautical engineers who thought they were geniuses while reading your ignorant posts.
Another example:
briskbison55 said:An animal would never communicate like this. Now, whether animals are better or worse than us is a moot point; it's like saying a left hand is better than a birch tree—it's simply incomparable.
And one more:
briskbison55 said:Just write something meaningful and smart without all the garbage, and there won't be any need to warn you that even mindless animals don't communicate like that.
Regarding the habit of calling interlocutors "mindless animals," I should mention that I've received a warning for much milder things, solely because I included pictures of sheep in a post (Carol Lopez23 explained to me that according to the rules, you aren't allowed to compare people to animals).
I honestly have no idea which rule that is, nor can I see how it was applied to these specific examples from briskbison55.
Here, he's being insulting by calling a user an idiot. This post has nothing to do with the subject matter; it's just pure bickering.
briskbison55 said:Honestly, I find it absolutely revolting that such things even exist. What an absolute idiot. When did serious communication start involving making up nonsense about people eating dogs? Honestly, if you aren't capable of maintaining even a basic level of decency, then just stay away. Spouting absolute stupidity isn't polite, nor is it allowed on this platform—so if you can't play by the rules, please just move on.
It’s the same old story, happening all over again—and honestly, they’re practically admitting to it at this point:
briskbison55 said:I’m calling this person an idiot. Honestly, I have to wonder who comes up with this nonsense about people eating dogs. It feels like one of those tired, lazy tropes people resort to when they’ve completely run out of intelligent things to say.
Insulting and disparaging your fellow interlocutors:
briskbison55 said:I think I follow. Perhaps I really should be more careful around you sensitive souls; I’m just not quite used to people actually using their brains around here.
In the following section, the user goes on to call the other forum members complete idiots:
briskbison55 said:He actually had the nerve to tell me that I eat dogs—just like you and everyone else does. Idiots. You guys seem to be writing like you're talking to a bunch of idiots.
In the end, he actually goes as far as calling people fools himself—and apparently, nobody is stopping him from exercising that particular right.
briskbison55 said:There are quite a few people posting here, isn't there? I might occasionally resort to calling someone an idiot, just to keep things interesting....and honestly, you really ought to ask yourself why.
Here. He actually goes so far as to advocate for and justify animal cruelty and violence—things that are strictly illegal here in the States. Regarding the forum rules... (First point).
The rest of this entry is also off-topic:
briskbison55 said:I suppose if cows are farting out methane, then it’s just common sense that humans should send them straight to the slaughterhouse. Simple as that.
Here, we see a user calling someone else an idiot while basically admitting they are one too:
briskbison55 said:Are you seeing yourself in my comment? I called the person an idiot because they were implying I eat dogs; if you still feel targeted by that, maybe you'll try reading more carefully next time?
This is just a needless post—totally off-topic and clearly aimed at starting a fight rather than discussing anything meaningful.
It's pure harassment of other users and completely irrelevant to the discussion.
In this part, they throw out these totally unsubstantiated claims about "black pork bacon" and processed tomatoes without citing a single credible source, all while mocking "obscure" websites that they haven't even actually named. To top it off, they dismiss something entirely unrelated to the thread as stupidity, even though nobody had even mentioned it in the first place.
Just classic trolling, going off-topic, and accusing others of pushing some kind of agenda... an agenda in a thread about healthy eating... honestly, what can you even say to that?
briskbison55 said:Blah blah blah, you're just throwing a tantrum because you can't push your senseless agenda.
Moving further down the same post—more bickering with zero connection to the actual topic:
briskbison55 said:You see my post above yours, where I'm responding to the nonsense from your two images—which, you might notice, are placed below the post you deleted and then reposted. It's relevant to the topic because it shows you can't even keep track of what you're doing on this site for more than a few minutes, let alone days, yet you expect people not to question where you get these ideas.
Mocking and belittling other participants:
briskbison55 said:Look, you can either get worked up about it or just let it go—it’s really up to you. Honestly, someone really ought to give you a mental health evaluation.
Just trolling and throwing out provocations that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic at hand:
briskbison55 said:Well, look at that, Do you honestly believe that some phantom force up in the atmosphere is spraying out phantom substances for reasons unknown, using technology we can't even identify? The reason I’m asking is that I’m genuinely curious—do you happen to know much about nutritionism?
It honestly feels like nothing more than trolling, endless bickering, and just trying to bait people into an argument. It’s the same old pattern: throwing out claims that have been officially debunked, scientifically refuted, and practically disproven ages ago—all without offering a single shred of actual evidence or a credible source to back them up.
briskbison55 said:Honestly, how many words does it take to get the point across? You’re misusing the term "argument" entirely—there isn't an actual argument happening here, let alone a debate. You can stomp your feet, throw a tantrum, and call everyone an idiot if it makes you feel better, but the biological reality remains unchanged: you simply aren't going to get anywhere near the protein levels found in meat from eating plants. It’s just math.
Here. He mentions... I suppose we’re talking about an Austrian house painter now? It feels like such a specific detail to bring up out of nowhere, but I guess there's a reason for it. Maybe it's just one of those random observations that sticks in your mind. It’s hard to ignore that blatant insinuation toward Hitler, who remains one of the most horrific criminals in all of history. He just keeps on poking the bear and engaging in these constant provocations, even though his post has absolutely nothing to do with the actual topic at hand.
briskbison55 said:So, you’re essentially suggesting that I should be drafting laws to dictate what people need, what they can have, and what they aren't allowed to possess. It's an interesting proposition, I suppose. But honestly, just give it a shot—someone else already tried that once before. An Austrian house painter. And he certainly didn't fare too well when he started telling people exactly where they stood...
Here. In the middle of this heated back-and-forth, they’re actually bringing up Hitler again, making some pretty disturbing references to his "final solution." It's honestly unsettling to see that kind of rhetoric resurfacing in an argument like this.
briskbison55 said:Your "concept" is starting to look a lot like Hitler’s Final Solution.Look, I tried to explain this to you in a more nuanced way, but clearly, we’re just talking past each other. You keep grasping at straws instead of actually addressing the core issue, and frankly, it feels like we're just spinning our wheels here.
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