Posts by wiredotter14

Zachary Nguyen2 said:I grabbed it yesterday and didn't even need Prime. They clearly underestimated how many people would jump on it at such a low price.
Now it's already up to 190 pounds.

That was the Amazon price. Right now, those aren't Amazon prices—they're coming from marketplace sellers. It’s not that Amazon hiked the price; they just sold out their stock. Once they restock, there's a good chance the price will drop back down. If you look at Threadripper prices on Amazon, right now only Amazon has lowered their price because of AMD's cut, while all the other sellers are still clinging to the old price.

Alright, I was thinking 3000 series, aka Zen 2. Even an octa-core refresh would feel more like a sidegrade than a real jump. But if the 4000 series ends up being just another Zen 2 refresh? Who knows, maybe they'll stick to compatibility. If they don't switch over to DDR6 or something similar by then, I could see us getting 7nm+ chips in 2019/2020 that actually fit into an X370.

Yeah, probably better to check HW news.

Austin Carter4 said:Also, I had another question—since I'm running a 550W power supply, how big of a deal is it really? Like, how much of a potential headache could the RX 580 be, considering it pulls 200W, compared to the GTX 1060 which only takes up about 120W?

Best,

Your PSU is solid; it can deliver 550W on the 12V rail. That card might hit 200W at full load, but realistically you're looking at closer to 150-170W.

If your CPU is overclocked, it could pull up to 200W itself. Total system draw shouldn't top 400W. Even if you hit some spikes near 500W, your power supply will hold up. Power draw isn't constant.

Yeah, that EVGA 1060

Or the RX 580 8GB that Kimberly Gomez34 linked

And who knows, maybe Zen 2 hits that 4.5GHz mark with insane power draw, but I think we'll be waiting a while. I have a feeling they might take a different path with Zen 2. Honestly, they aren't in any rush and it won't shift the landscape overnight. Plus, with 7nm, they can build much bigger server chips, so we might actually be waiting longer for the Ryzen 5 2600 and similar parts than we did for the 1600.

Anyway, whatever happens, the Ryzen 5 1600 is a beast of a processor and should hold up for years. If the motherboard survives, you could just drop in a used Ryzen 7 2700 or 3600 in a few years. 😁😁
The B350/X370 chipsets ought to support at least two more generations of Ryzen.

Timothy Kim60 said:Thanks Zachary Nguyen2, wiredotter14, and the color guys. Order placed: 😁

$185 including shipping

Got everything you need now?

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Timothy Kim60 said:Wait, so the price doesn't change just because it's Prime?
So what does Prime actually mean here? Is it just faster shipping within the States through Amazon?

If you see the Prime label, it just means it's Available for Prime service.

Look, in a country where you actually have Prime—and I don't mean some universal version that covers everything—you get free next-day shipping on pretty much any order size. Sometimes you even score free same-day delivery and stuff like that.

Plus, you get early access to Lightning Deals—those quick-hit discounts found under Today's deals.

Amazon Video is basically like Netflix. They've got some decent movies on there, plus they stream the Grand Tour—that’s their own production.

Basically, anything Amazon ships out is available for Prime service. You can still order all that stuff without Prime, you just get stuck with the slower shipping speeds. Deep within the interior.

International orders don't change anything regarding Prime.

Timothy Kim60 said:Does this work here in the States too? I saw it mentioned, but I don't know anyone actually using it. If we grab it, can you really just sign up and cancel Prime without getting hit by some hidden fees or penalties? I'm asking because I don't want to get screwed like those "3 months of free cable" scams where they charge you anyway if you try to cancel after three months. 😁

Yeah, you can actually get it for free on Amazon, you just have to remember to cancel on time.

Wait, what do you mean the price is only for Prime? Everything looks standard to me. Prime doesn't have anything to do with international shipping.

P.S.

You won't have any issues picking up that Hex for around $45.
Your rig pulls about 200W at full load, so that's a solid PSU, and you can't beat a 3-year warranty.

The other two options are just higher quality and more efficient.

He’s asking for something even weaker and cheaper, whatever that actually means.

Now he can grab a Classic Hex for around $50, a new Hex for about $60, or a Corsair CX450M for $155.

Each one gets the job done and is worth the price tag. Honestly, they're probably the best bets at those price points.

crimsonstag84, that's hardly a bargain.

Honestly, the old Hexa is plenty for his build—he won't run into any issues, yet he's out here hunting for "cheaper" options.

https://www.bestbuy.com/na...m_medium=click

I wouldn't go any lower than that.

Personally, I think the EVGA CX450M beats both of them, plus you get modularity.

https://www.techradar.com/news/power-supply-reviews

And there's a 5-year warranty, just like the HEXA!

$155

Or maybe something like this:

https://www.newegg.com/p/power-supplies

That 30dB noise level seems pretty quiet to me.

Yeah, it'd be good to see that.

Also, is there any actual point to using ECC memory?
The 7900X doesn't support ECC.
Threadripper does.

wanderingpanther21 said:Intel Core i9-7900X - Processor
Gigabyte AORUS X299-GAMING 3 - Motherboard
Phanteks Enthoo Primo - Full tower case
4x Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LPX 2x16GB 3000 C15
Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
Seasonic Prime 850W

Finally got around to the build list. Any suggestions on what to swap out or fix? I'm thinking about ditching the 4 sticks of RAM for maybe 1 or 2 higher quality ones if they exist—I heard this was the cheapest way to hit 128GB, but I don't actually need 128. If anyone has better options, I'm all ears before I pull the trigger... thanks.

Here’s how I’d run it.

AMD Threadripper 1950X is significantly more powerful than the 7900X.

If you're already committing to an HEDT platform, it's common sense to go with 4 sticks of RAM for quad-channel memory.
If you aren't doing quad-channel, then with those specs, you aren't that far off from a Ryzen 7, which is miles cheaper on its own platform.
If anyone can suggest better RAM for a Threadripper, let me know. Tell us where you're shopping.

I threw in a weaker GPU since you probably don't need a monster; a GTX 1060 or something similar works fine.
A solid air cooler should be enough for a Threadripper, roughly on par with some AIO liquid coolers.

P.S.

Maybe start a new thread. This one's for gaming rigs.

wanderingpanther21 said:Fair point. I didn't double-check—my bad. (I was looking at a Core i7 when I meant to check the other one.) Probably just going with a Threadripper 1950 x way to go instead.

If you're looking to save some serious cash, a Core i7 is a solid move.

But if this is for pro work and dropping $3,000 on a rig isn't an issue, then Threadripper 1950 x way to go.

Is that kind of budget even on the table for you?

What kind of budget are we looking at to get started?

You can grab an Intel Core i9 for basically what a 10-core 7900X costs. It’s a much better value.

Timothy Kim60 said:
I don't really get what you're looking for in terms of Windows, but just a heads-up—as a business, you might not be allowed to use the Home version. You should double-check that. The cheapest options I've seen online are over at google.com for $233
.

It doesn't HAVE to be Pro. Home works fine.
I checked this myself when I was buying software for my company.
It’s just a tired old trick suppliers use to push the Pro version on people because it carries a much higher markup.

The price gap isn't massive anymore, but Home is still perfectly legal for business use.
The only rules that matter come from Microsoft, and they don't have any clause banning the commercial use of Windows.
Office is a different story, though. You can't exactly use something like Home and Student for Business.

Yeah, you nailed it

Samuel Castillo49 said:Recently, an R5 1600 on Amazon with shipping and tax included was about $490. Pretty soon that might just be the standard price—maybe they'll even drop it lower. I don't think that new i5 stands a chance. Intel is clearly struggling to adapt to this shift, still desperately trying to hold onto those inflated prices. I'm not a fanboy, but it's obvious: AMD basically forced Intel's hand with Ryzen.

When we talk about these prices hitting $533, we have to see how the i5 8400 performs on H310 and B360 motherboards. So far, the results look great, but that's on Z370 boards, which isn't a realistic scenario and is way too expensive.

If it can stay near 4GHz on cheaper boards, it'll be a serious competitor to Ryzen. At least for gaming; productivity might lag a bit behind.
Stock will also look good compared to Stock Ryzen (yeah, there are people who won't or can't overclock)

Look, I get it, but honestly? A Ryzen 5 1400 for $367 is an absolute steal. It’s more than enough for now since you can easily swap in a Zen 2 later on. It isn't like some old quad-core i5 where your only real move is jumping to a quad-core i7 from the same generation.