Noah Sullivan said:The whole mess in 2022 was really just the inevitable climax of those lower-intensity conflicts we saw from 2014 to 2021—all kicked off by that externally directed coup involving the Right Sector back in early 2014.
So, what exactly do you think is inaccurate about Oliver Stone's documentary "Ukraine on Fire"?
They even let it back up on YouTube, so it might actually be worth your time to watch it.
It’s much like that lecture by Mearsheimer in Florence I linked earlier—where he dives into (especially toward the end) the actual moral implications of the policies being carried out.
You’re just a total Mearsheimer and Stone fanboy—basically worshiping them because they tell you exactly what you want to hear. To me, they're just guys cashing in on controversy through books, movies, and paid speaking gigs. This whole debate between us? It's just followers versus skeptics—totally pointless.
That doesn't mean Mearsheimer's take is totally useless—you've gotta factor it in if you want to wrap your head around global politics. But leaning on nothing else and ignoring the counterarguments? That's basically just cult behavior.
As far as Stone goes—I’ve actually sat through both of Putin's speeches, the one before the DLNR recognition and the one right before the invasion of Ukraine. Honestly, his whole dramatic routine feels pretty redundant at this point.