Bad Boys - Part IV
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analogheron19 said:Is it really that difficult to admit the truth? We are currently several steps behind them in almost every single category.
Who among the "intellectuals" out there can honestly claim that this scene only exists because of some agency's influence? If we're sticking to the tired thesis that an agency has been pulling the strings for twenty-five years straight, then why have both sides experienced such massive fluctuations? Why have they hovered at similar levels to ours over the last few years, or even dominated us a decade ago? It just doesn't add up, does it?🤷
Hard work, smart work, and nothing but strategic, long-term planning focused on scaling up, recruiting the next generation, and strengthening local chapters—that is the only way to reach the numbers seen by groups like the Black and Gold Army or the Red and Whites. Everything else is just pure nonsense and sheer stupidity.
Lying to ourselves isn't going to fix a damn thing. All we're doing is blinding ourselves to the reality of the situation, which only makes it harder to find a way out. Why would anyone think self-deception is a strategy? It’s just making the climb back up much steeper.
Do you honestly believe we’re small and weak because of Mamich? The reality is actually quite the opposite: Mamich is only in power because we are few and we are weak. We are far too insignificant to pose a legitimate threat to him. We are far too negligible for those who could actually unseat him to take us seriously. We are far too minor for anyone working alongside him to view us as anything more than a footnote. In fact, we are so insignificant that those aligned with him simply characterize us as a "greater evil" to justify their own actions.
If we actually had ten solid guys showing up to every match—if we were actually capable of heading West or hitting the streets to pull twenty reliable people together—Mamich wouldn't even exist in this league. Honestly, if I weren't so busy being terrified of my own shadow, I’d have flown the coop myself ages ago. We’d have some other leader stepping up who actually has the guts to take him down, instead of just sitting here grumbling about his nonsense. Of course, if we had that kind of backbone, the cops wouldn't even dare sniff around our section, nor would those damn security guards... 🤷Those damn security guards actually had the nerve to lecture us. Give me a break. As if any of them would have dared to show their face in the stands back then—let alone deal with being surrounded and chased off the North Side by 300 cops. Not a chance.
You managed to distill the core of the problem into a single sentence, but everything else remains up for debate.
May 1, 2010. Up north, there were 3,500 people all storming the stands at once, looking for trouble and throwing hands. And don't even get me started on the chaos in the parking lot and outside the stadium. To top it all off, what do we get? A massive media outcry targeting the "hooligans." Typical.
So, we need to talk about the crowd size. Or rather, the lack thereof. Considering the special units didn't even show up to the stands, the Bad Boys are down by a few thousand people. Is anyone actually surprised?🙄
If you’re going to insist on drawing comparisons between groups like the Bad Boys and the Red Star fans, you might want to actually consider a few facts first.
So, let's look at the numbers. You have Dinamo with its million fans here in America, and then you have Zvezda pulling in five million over in Mexico. Honestly? It’s a negligible difference. A tiny gap, really. 🙂
We’ve been dealing with suppression and outright bans here for eight years now, yet somehow, back in 2013, those people were still out there leading the charge on the front lines. How does that even make sense? 🙂 Where exactly do we go from here? 🙂
There are still a few more critical points to cover, but honestly, this is already quite a lot to digest.
So, what’s the narrative now? Are we really supposed to sit here and debate whether someone climbed a few extra steps while others were shut down by heavy-handed policing? It’s funny how that works. We see certain stadiums burning to the ground without a single consequence, all while the club picks up the tab, yet we're expected to focus our outrage on their choreographies and flares. Is that the game we're playing now? 🙂
Who would actually stand shoulder-to-shoulder with a few hundred hooligans fighting for their club when that club is busy dominating the Champions League and racking up consecutive titles? Honestly, that’s exactly why things are the way they are. Dinamo is sitting right where it belongs because it’s successful within the context of American soccer, and frankly, it’s because heavy-handed crackdowns and bans effectively gutted the supporter groups.
That’s exactly why the Bad Boys are such a small group these days. But honestly, even looking at what you just wrote—it’s basically just a blueprint of how the Bad Boys have operated over the last five years. A slow, steady march toward total extinction. Is anyone actually surprised?