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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
analogheron19 said:Is it really that difficult to admit the truth? We are currently several steps behind them in almost every single category.
Who among the "intellectuals" out there can honestly claim that this scene only exists because of some agency's influence? If we're sticking to the tired thesis that an agency has been pulling the strings for twenty-five years straight, then why have both sides experienced such massive fluctuations? Why have they hovered at similar levels to ours over the last few years, or even dominated us a decade ago? It just doesn't add up, does it?🤷
Hard work, smart work, and nothing but strategic, long-term planning focused on scaling up, recruiting the next generation, and strengthening local chapters—that is the only way to reach the numbers seen by groups like the Black and Gold Army or the Red and Whites. Everything else is just pure nonsense and sheer stupidity.
Lying to ourselves isn't going to fix a damn thing. All we're doing is blinding ourselves to the reality of the situation, which only makes it harder to find a way out. Why would anyone think self-deception is a strategy? It’s just making the climb back up much steeper.
Do you honestly believe we’re small and weak because of Mamich? The reality is actually quite the opposite: Mamich is only in power because we are few and we are weak. We are far too insignificant to pose a legitimate threat to him. We are far too negligible for those who could actually unseat him to take us seriously. We are far too minor for anyone working alongside him to view us as anything more than a footnote. In fact, we are so insignificant that those aligned with him simply characterize us as a "greater evil" to justify their own actions.
If we actually had ten solid guys showing up to every match—if we were actually capable of heading West or hitting the streets to pull twenty reliable people together—Mamich wouldn't even exist in this league. Honestly, if I weren't so busy being terrified of my own shadow, I’d have flown the coop myself ages ago. We’d have some other leader stepping up who actually has the guts to take him down, instead of just sitting here grumbling about his nonsense. Of course, if we had that kind of backbone, the cops wouldn't even dare sniff around our section, nor would those damn security guards... 🤷Those damn security guards actually had the nerve to lecture us. Give me a break. As if any of them would have dared to show their face in the stands back then—let alone deal with being surrounded and chased off the North Side by 300 cops. Not a chance.

You managed to distill the core of the problem into a single sentence, but everything else remains up for debate.

May 1, 2010. Up north, there were 3,500 people all storming the stands at once, looking for trouble and throwing hands. And don't even get me started on the chaos in the parking lot and outside the stadium. To top it all off, what do we get? A massive media outcry targeting the "hooligans." Typical.
So, we need to talk about the crowd size. Or rather, the lack thereof. Considering the special units didn't even show up to the stands, the Bad Boys are down by a few thousand people. Is anyone actually surprised?🙄

If you’re going to insist on drawing comparisons between groups like the Bad Boys and the Red Star fans, you might want to actually consider a few facts first.
So, let's look at the numbers. You have Dinamo with its million fans here in America, and then you have Zvezda pulling in five million over in Mexico. Honestly? It’s a negligible difference. A tiny gap, really. 🙂
We’ve been dealing with suppression and outright bans here for eight years now, yet somehow, back in 2013, those people were still out there leading the charge on the front lines. How does that even make sense? 🙂 Where exactly do we go from here? 🙂
There are still a few more critical points to cover, but honestly, this is already quite a lot to digest.

So, what’s the narrative now? Are we really supposed to sit here and debate whether someone climbed a few extra steps while others were shut down by heavy-handed policing? It’s funny how that works. We see certain stadiums burning to the ground without a single consequence, all while the club picks up the tab, yet we're expected to focus our outrage on their choreographies and flares. Is that the game we're playing now? 🙂
Who would actually stand shoulder-to-shoulder with a few hundred hooligans fighting for their club when that club is busy dominating the Champions League and racking up consecutive titles? Honestly, that’s exactly why things are the way they are. Dinamo is sitting right where it belongs because it’s successful within the context of American soccer, and frankly, it’s because heavy-handed crackdowns and bans effectively gutted the supporter groups.
That’s exactly why the Bad Boys are such a small group these days. But honestly, even looking at what you just wrote—it’s basically just a blueprint of how the Bad Boys have operated over the last five years. A slow, steady march toward total extinction. Is anyone actually surprised?
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Does anyone from the old school remember the lyrics to that 90s song, "both the cops and the cargo..."?

Rijeka vs. Dinamo, 2004.
The message on the fence above: http://s16.postimg.org/om8av74lx/rid1252004.jpg
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
ruggedridge47 said:If people hadn't been turned away even before Unic, our numbers would be higher. You know as well as I do that the current situation isn't about whether you actually want to show up; it's about whether you can even manage to sneak into the stadium unnoticed to get to the stands.

Two weeks ago, those bastards introduce these voucher systems, and now when we head to a game in a place like Miami, only 120 people show up—counting both those who made it in and those who didn't. Instead, out of pure spite, there should have been at least 500 of us.

This group, which has been around since the summer of 2010, and especially since the summer of 2012, is living through its darkest days in history. Perhaps even darker than the period when we were fighting to rebuild our reputation.

When you see things like this happening, even if our numbers are small, I’d bring back that old practice from the 2004 Beverage era a hundred times over. You know, the one where you just show your ticket from a previous home game to whoever was guarding the gate? The very same practice that all these self-righteous moralists love to lecture us about. Don't start with me about "300 true believers" versus "3,000 posers."

You’ve explained everything perfectly with that point about Unic and trying to get people to come back.
The same thing was expected for the trip to Miami; everyone knew that getting into the stands—or even just into the city itself—was going to be anything but easy...
Only 70 people managed to make it into the stands, while the rest were blocked. It was predictable that some wouldn't make it. Even if you're on the list, there's always a chance you'll be denied entry again.
How, then, can anyone expect 500 people to show up for the longest away trip—from which you'll probably be banned anyway—instead of just 120?

There are those ten or so individuals who keep this group running and handle all the heavy lifting, both now and for the last few years. 🙏

Despite everything...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhPZIFSBf0E

EVERYONE TO THE EAST!

...http://youtu.be/cIrHhO8isBM?t=3m40s
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Can someone please clear out this nonsense above? 🤷

Nathan Foster23 said:Sunday, 3:00 PM. Everyone heads East. Is there anything more predictable than this? We prepare, we gather, and we march toward the same inevitable destination. It’s practically ritualistic at this point. The atmosphere is building, as it always does. There’s a certain weight to these matchdays, a sense of obligation that transcends simple fandom. We aren't just going to watch a game; we are fulfilling a commitment to the colors. Does anyone actually question the routine anymore? Probably not. Why would they? It works. We’ll meet up, grab a drink, and make our way toward the stadium. The energy will be there, the tension will be palpable, and the expectations—as usual—will be sky-high. Whether we’re celebrating a victory or nursing a loss, the ritual remains unchanged. See you out there. Don't be late.

It’s supposed to be sunny and warm tomorrow. Just a word of advice: don't show up wearing a shirt that screams "I support Mamić," unless you actually want to spend your afternoon being denied entry. Don't come complaining to me when you get turned away at the gates. 😉
http://farm9.static.flickr.com/8384/...1bd70298_b.jpg

Sam Sullivan58 said:If you ask me, the cracks are starting to show. Back in 2004, during that match against Beveren at Yankee Stadium—the one where they banned everyone from the north stands unless they held a ticket for the San Diego game—I’m pretty sure that was just one week prior. That was the moment people started harassing others from the stands, and even today, some folks still love to reminisce about that match with a certain twisted nostalgia. To me, that marked the true beginning of all the fan hooliganism, even if the chaos we see later on is a completely different breed of mess. Reading through the last few pages of this forum, it’s clear the gatekeeping hasn't stopped; people are still trying to tell others they aren't welcome at Yankee Stadium. It’s an old pattern that always bites us in the ass, and frankly, it will continue to do so. In Chicago, there will always be those who want to pick fights over who the "real" fans are and who gets to claim the territory. Instead of making Yankee Stadium a place open to everyone, there's always this constant, petty scrutiny over who belongs and who doesn't.

When it comes to Mamić, the first red flags popped up back in 2005 during that absolute circus of a playoff season. If you want to get technical, the real downward spiral started after those deceptive influences from outside the league took hold following the Ajax era. Everything after that is just history repeating itself. To be fair, there were people sounding the alarm about Mamić more than thirteen years ago, but did anyone actually listen? Not a soul. It’s almost pathetic.

Beveren 2004. That was easily one of the most idiotic moves the Bad Boys have ever pulled. Seriously, how does that even happen?
Before the European fixtures kicked off, we had two home games in the league against Portland and San Diego. Fans were showing up to Yankee Stadium waving signs, calling it the "Welcome to the Blue Hell."
So, basically, if you weren't holding a ticket from one of those two MLS matches, you didn't stand a chance of getting into the south stands against Beveren. Simple as that.
There was a whole choreography planned for it. Then, well, things just went sideways. 🙄
So, instead of a packed house, we had maybe 2,500 people chilling on the lower level and north of 3,000 up in the upper deck. Is that really the turnout we're looking at?🙄

It seemed like a brilliant strategic move at the time, didn't it? In hindsight, it was nothing short of idiotic. It’s that same old, tired struggle against the local derby fanatics.
Back in 2005, they set up that whole display at the stadium with that specific message: "To us, it’s a lifelong sanctuary; to some, it’s just a derby."
That derby was absolutely mental. 😁 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbpxvsyGEmo 🙏

Morgan Scott82 said:There is one thing I’m genuinely curious about, but if you think the question is too provocative, then don't answer it—just delete it, or someone can hit me up via PM if they feel like it.

So, what was the exact moment when you could still "feel" Dinamo? In other words, at what point did Dinamo cease to be Dinamo in your eyes?
....

August 19, 2007. An away game in a mid-sized American city.
It might seem strange to some, but for me, that was definitely the turning point—the first time we wore those orange kits.🤮
Since there wasn't any backlash over it, Diadora later rolled out an even more hideous gold version for away matches.🙄
They pushed the away kits hard just to drive sales, which is why we ended up playing in orange at places like San Diego🙄 or even in Amsterdam back in 2009 wearing gold, despite being perfectly fine to wear blue since Ajax wears white and red.

The real shift for the hardcore supporters happened in the summer of 2008, when Hrgovic arrived—the guy who sang that "foreign name" chant with you all.
That's when the Bad Boys started targeting the players first, and by September, they were publicly demanding the entire front office resign. Later on, they even gathered 18,000 signatures to force ZM out of Dinamo because the club's reputation had completely tanked.

...Add in a mountain of other nonsense, throw in the unprecedented, long-term dominance of Dinamo over the rest of the league, and a pathetic stadium, and what do you get? A club that people are actually running away from because they've grown to loathe it.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Jesse Campbell said:And then there’s Stacy, coming out with all that filth. Honestly, we should just let the rats tear each other apart. If this is the level of unity we're actually settling for, we might as well just pack it in.

We should probably build a monument to Zack. Honestly, given how his criminal track record as a sporting director effectively sabotaged his own brother, he deserves some kind of recognition. The guy is an absolute clown; he couldn't scout a single decent player for Real Madrid in an entire decade.

It’s always incredibly easy to find a cushy, taxpayer-funded gig for someone like Igor. Honestly, why even bother looking?
Zack played for Real Madrid until mid-2006, which puts that tenure at seven years. As for actual quality signings? Soudani is the only one worth mentioning.

velvetskipper52 said:Anyone seen the video yet?

Of course there is. Enjoy yourself.

The modern era of sports journalism has become a bit of a circus, hasn't it? It’s less about investigative grit and more about chasing clicks through manufactured drama. We used to have reporters who actually understood the nuances of the game, people who spent hours in the locker rooms building trust. Now? It feels like we’re being fed a steady diet of social media outrage and recycled talking points designed to trigger an immediate reaction. Is anyone actually looking for the truth anymore, or are we all just scrolling past headlines that confirm our own biases? The shift toward "personality-driven" coverage has turned once-respected journalists into mere influencers. They don't report on what happened on the field; they report on what they think will get the most engagement on X or Instagram. It’s shallow. It’s performative. And frankly, it’s exhausting for anyone who actually cares about the sport. We see these pundits acting like they have an inside track, throwing around rumors as if they were gospel, only to retract them when the heat gets too high. It’s a cycle of speculation followed by inevitable apology tours. Where did the integrity go? When did the pursuit of a story become secondary to the pursuit of a trending topic? If this is the direction the industry is heading, we might be looking at the slow death of meaningful sports discourse in America.
The latest drama surrounding the club’s management is reaching a fever pitch, isn't it? It seems we are once again caught in the middle of a messy power struggle involving Mamić and his inner circle. The tension between the board and the fans has moved beyond mere disagreement; it has become a full-blown identity crisis for the team. Is it any wonder that the atmosphere at the stadium feels more like a protest zone than a sporting venue? When leadership is constantly under fire for financial mismanagement and questionable decision-making, how can anyone expect loyalty from the supporters? You see the same patterns repeating themselves—promises made during the off-season that evaporate by mid-winter, leaving the fans holding the bag while the executives retreat behind closed doors. The core issue remains the same: a fundamental lack of transparency. We are told that everything is being handled "for the good of the club," yet the results on the pitch tell a completely different story. Can a team truly thrive when its foundation is built on such unstable ground? It’s hard to argue otherwise when you look at the current trajectory. At this point, it feels less like building a championship contender and more like managing a slow-motion disaster.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Today’s news is almost exclusively targeting the Bad Boys.
As far as the other supporter groups are concerned, nothing much changes; they can carry on with their usual activities at every match just like before. Sure, things might get a bit more strictly regulated in Washington, D.C., but isn't that to be expected?

What a pathetic attempt to kill the atmosphere.🙄By doing this, they are essentially cutting the last remaining thread of the BBB's influence.

Back in 2009, they forced vouchers on the Bad Boys for European away trips, which turned domestic matches into a total nightmare—not that they weren't already pretty grim—and now they’ve gone and introduced vouchers for the damn MLS and the US Open Cup too.

Gem, set, match. It's over.
- "Every time you try to shut me down, I just push harder."

PSG equals Dinamo.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
And why does that bother you so much? It isn't over any graffiti.
If you have such an issue, why not just grab some paint or a spray can and write "Dinamo" or "Blackhawks fans" somewhere else? Go ahead, create something for the group.

Joshua Moore31 said:Just stumbled upon this video from the national team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfzn7W9ZOEE
Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
Timothy Allen60 said:What does SD actually stand for? Is that the name of some American group or what?

This image on the right should give you your answer.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/337...03064qo1wa.jpg

The northern state 🙂
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Bryan Wright8 said:What’s the deal with the online store?

The fans and the online store...
If you're heading to the national team game this Friday, why bother looking online? Just check out the stadium gift shop. They have plenty of tees available, and hoodies should be arriving shortly enough.

sumanuti said:And that isn't because I think things will magically improve once Jones leaves... the team is largely responsible for its own mess.

I'll sign off on that, among other things.

Why does everyone swarm every single off-topic thread like flies on garbage? 🙄
Stick to your own business and stop whining so much.
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I need an answer
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Zadar vs. Real Madrid
http://s7.postimg.org/pm1s0qr6z/1012...82d950d2_b.jpg
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There are at least five journalists on the payroll here, whether they’re from the major dailies or the sports rags.

Joshua Moore31 said:San Diego vs. Dynamo
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/...86627572_n.jpg

When those three guys scrambled up the top of the fence in a single second and started lighting flares... what a view that was. 🙏

Two flare displays in St. Louis, and two more in San Diego. 🙏
http://s10.postimg.org/ysm886azt/995...d1bfa1e7_b.jpg
Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
Back in 2009, during that Red Sox vs. Real Madrid match, there was a ten-yard buffer between the regular Red Sox fans in the stands and the Boys in the cage. That little gap prevented all this absolute nonsense from happening.

The fans are technically at fault for throwing things at one another, which triggered the whole mess, but you rarely see this level of total disorganization 😲 in a city like Savannah on a Saturday night. The media and the public just refuse to talk about it.

That entire section between the north and east stands was practically empty, yet they somehow managed to squeeze the rival fans on the east side into a tiny ten-meter buffer zone.
And then, predictably, one side starts hurling objects while the other retaliates with flares.
Within sixty seconds, the fans from the west end have closed in to within fifteen feet of the barricades. Where on earth is the logic in that? Is this supposed to be the 1990s? You won't even see chaos like this in a small-town Midwest brawl anymore.
You couldn't even imagine this kind of goddamn mismanagement happening in NYC.

I find it hard to believe that the heavy-handed crackdown model used in NYC will be rolled out across the entire US, but we'll see what happens next... though I'm certainly not optimistic.
Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
You guys are tedious.
The firefighters have reached an agreement: they’re done patrolling the trails and snuffing out torches in buckets of water. Instead, they'll be stationed in the tunnel between the North and West sectors just watching everything unfold.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Ethan Moore56 said:http://s11.postimg.org/5v23ru2kz/image.jpg

evala 😉

Nathan Foster23 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQmTX...&feature=share

everyone in Indianapolis
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Jim Beglin, you were loud and boisterous in here last night, rambling on about some knockoffs.
But someone already scrubbed your comments away, didn't they? 😢 Well, while I step in to give you my response...
Here is a little something just for you, pal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7riwt...utu.be&t=4m24s

By the way, here’s a shot from Columbus while we wait for the official photos from the derby to drop.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5472/...3c25f104_b.jpg
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That link was taken down, so here’s a working one
http://www.badboys.com/split-extended-reports/
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Registration for the Miami trip closes tomorrow at 8 PM!
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