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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
stormybison9 said:Someone posted a link a few pages back, but I can't seem to find it... Is there somewhere else to see more merch besides the official site? Or is what they have online pretty much everything available?

Thanks for the help.

Here you go. Those three pages cover most of the souvenir inventory.
http://www.philadelphiaeaglesfans.com/forum/inde...ic,730.50.html

Roger Watson77 said:Hey, I know this isn't really the right place to ask, but will there be organized transportation for the trip to Canada, or is everyone just winging it on their own?

They haven't provided organized travel for away games in quite a while. If I recall correctly, when was the last time a bus was even chartered?
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
lonewolf53 said:I don't want to restart the debate about how much nonsense is in "your" little rant, but please, just don't write it.
Out of a hundred well-intentioned reasons, just don't.

Look, I have no desire to start a thread either. In fact, I won't even bother writing my usual rant here since it seems the only person bothered by it is you. And usually, the truth tends to bother 🤷 anyone with an ounce of objectivity—it’s all pretty clear
But do me a favor and explain this "amount of stupidity" in that message. I am genuinely curious.

Here is a tiny little example, just to help you frame things properly. For instance, imagine the Rally Squad is outside a hotel last night, blowing horns, setting off flares, making a scene, and then the police show up and tell them to clear out.
If those had been the Bad Boys and this was happening in Washington, D.C., everyone would have ended up at the precinct being processed under fan laws 😉 and disturbing the peace would be a given.
And I'm not talking about the crackdown we see in 2013; the exact same thing would have happened in 2007, 2008, and so on...

Do you remember this? Or are you completely oblivious?

You wouldn't see that in Miami. Not in Cleveland, either. Never. And certainly not back in 2008.
That is because the fans in Washington, D.C. (in the eyes of the media) are demonized to such an extent that the very same news outlet is now writing this regarding the local crowd: The flares were burning on both sides, but it wasn't hooliganism; it was true football atmosphere.

Do you recall how the January 5th riots started? It was over two flares in the east stands.
And how did it end? With hundreds of beaten fans, most of whom hadn't done a single thing wrong.

Fine, the Bad Boys built their own reputation. But nobody likes injustice.

So, what are these "well-intentioned reasons"? You can answer me here or via DM.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
wanderingcobra18 said:Money flows freely for him, doesn't it? And he’s got the support of that mindless, ignorant crowd he lost last night... a crowd he could easily win back by the time European competition rolls around this spring. Regardless of what we actually think of those people, staying in their good graces makes life much easier...

Robert Adams6, this is just my two cents; I'm not claiming to be right. It feels like there's nothing left for you to gain, and anything that happens is bound to go against your interests. Surely you won't spend 90 minutes cheering against Mamić (God forbid I'm wrong), and I assume you'll still find your voices for Real Madrid—even if your hearts aren't in it. I suspect the players would rather take the pitch without you than with you, though in reality, they couldn't care less about any of us. That's how I see it...

Anyway, not that it matters; my specific fan group isn't the point here. I wish you all the best in this world; you're going to need it...

Exactly like the Bad Boys wouldn't have seen any real success if they had a massive following behind them. They don't. Part of it is due to how they fight, (and the subsequent crackdowns that look a lot like what PSG goes through),
and part of it is because everything seems to work in his favor; since he faced boycotts, he just had to dump more money into the squad, the stadium, and "marketing."

I hear you, but the Bad Boys are essentially a supporter group whose only remaining purpose is traveling for away games. Of course, they'll sing their songs and praise Real Madrid, but not to help the club advance. Moving into the Champions League would just be another massive win for him—millions poured into continuing the business, where the actual results on the pitch matter far less than the bottom line.

In fact, any chaos caused by the Bad Boys serves as a major victory for him, and they should be well aware of that.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
wanderingcobra18 said:What’s even the point of going to Vienna?

😕

wanderingcobra18 said:P.S. Don't start celebrating too early. Madoff has more luck than anyone; he'll probably screw us over by snagging 1st or 2nd place in the groups, and then we're looking at a nightmare spring in Europe... and things will get even harder then...

Of course you shouldn't celebrate prematurely. He has an absurd amount of luck.
Just remember those defensive collapses in Malmö. And don't even get me started on that goal Vidin conceded against the underdog!
If they actually make it into the Europa League, there's a chance they could pull off a run. Based on the rankings, Real Madrid would likely enter the second qualifying round, where the opponents might actually be laughable.

P.S. Naturally, every single blunder by the Bad Boys is treated like a monumental victory.
New fan laws: What do we think? in Fans ·
Human rights don't just vanish once you step through the stadium gates.
A solid slogan.

But when we’re talking specifically about New York City, I really think that's the case. It’s over. Case closed.!
It was actually finished over three years ago—back on January 15, 2010.
Who was actually in charge back then? And more importantly, who is being held accountable for the absolute carnage at Rotor? When you have hundreds of citizens and fans suffering serious physical harm and seeing their basic human rights trampled, someone has to answer for that.
A small portion of that crowd had the chance to experience the intensity of the Red Sox faithful firsthand during the away game in New Jersey.

So, it’s all "according to the law," regardless of which specific rule they decide to hide behind. But let's be honest: rights tend to evaporate long before you even reach the stadium gates.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Robert Cooper60 said:And you might want to take a close look at the terms and conditions they've set for the stadium. ☕

😬

They’re looking at 1,700 tickets, priced at about $1.60 a pop. 🤣
The Bad Boys are heading to Chicago for a run—500 tickets on the table, priced at $25 a pop. 🤣

For some people, a few scraps of paper thrown in the air is enough to call it a choreographed display. They think that’s all it takes to have a seamless, hassle-free life as a fan. Is that really the standard we're settling for now?
For us, it’s nothing but a fight until the very last man standing.

🙂


Our struggle isn't over yet. Our voices are only getting louder.
We are standing against the system, down to our very last man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzU_LaDzBX4

I don't know what you're getting at. Is there actually a point to this, or are we just shouting into the void? kaže:
Which section are we heading to? The East Stand?

Just like always, if they even let us through the gates at Madison Square Garden.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzU_LaDzBX4
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
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Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
I’m just waiting for the next sensationalist script about American soccer and its fans—you know, those folks who can't even make it to European stadiums because the club won't issue them a single travel voucher, yet somehow, every single news outlet is blaming THEM for getting into scraps with some Moldovan side 🙏

The damage to this group is already done. All thanks to the constant stream of lies being published 🙂 over and over again 🤷
If this were happening to the supporters in a city like Miami, there would already be a massive lawsuit filed against most of these media outlets 🙂... And as for that lovely little line claiming they "provoke unrest and disgrace their club wherever they go"? Well, they'll have to explain that one in court 🙂 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏
Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
Kevin Nelson3 said:Take full responsibility for being the reason why Jerry Peretz holds so much power today. It isn't Mark, it isn't Vrb, it isn't Bloomberg, it isn't Clinton, and it isn't Dalglish; it’s you. It was you who should have picked up a pitchfork the second he walked through the club doors and we heard about those slave-driver contracts he was forcing on players, his nonsensical decisions, and his disgraceful behavior. Instead, you kept your mouths shut because it was convenient—or rather, because it didn't bother you at the time. Give me a break. Now suddenly it bothers you, and everyone is expected to step up and help.
And who exactly is "everyone"? Is it the 200 members of The Crew showing up in Miami for the derby, the 100 guys from Jack, the two vans filled with Damian, Funcut, and Tornado supporters, or us? No one can save you. You have to deal with him yourselves, using whatever methods you see fit. And next time, maybe pay closer attention to who you let run the show.

You are incredibly ill-informed if you think the Boysi were staying quiet.🙂

The reality is that for the entire duration, he delivered results and trophies; the club was profitable, playing in Europe, and winning titles.
That is the core issue—the very thing you conveniently omit in your comparison to your own struggles—and it couldn't be more significant. 😉
It wasn't just that you lacked results; you were facing bankruptcy and getting knocked out by random teams like Debrecen or Shelbourne, trailing far behind Real Madrid (which meant Grgic stayed president for another two years 🙂 while Fio didn't leave until 2013 🙏 despite the code of conduct).

Back then, the Dinamo Supporters Club officially declared war on him, despite the three consecutive titles and playing in the UEFA Cup in September 2008. He was actually summoned to the association where they read him a statement demanding his immediate resignation along with the entire board; he simply shut up and fled the association.
The chanting from the stands first targeted him during the match against Pula on November 8, 2006, following the firing of Coach Kuze: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dglarZZeFtc

And no, the Boysi aren't looking for support or assistance from anyone else in this scene. They are fighting their own war, and if he ever leaves the club, it will be because of the fight they started.
Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
This forum is nothing but a tragicomedy and a total circus. It’s honestly absurd what one can read here. Does the Black Knights crowd really expect this kind of "support"?!!
What is wrong with you people? The locals look out for themselves and their own club, just as the Bad Boys look out for theirs. What is this "fan solidarity" nonsense? It’s pathetic to read. The locals have nothing left to chant; they’ve already made their mark. To hell with them and to hell with the repression crushing the Bad Boys—remember that.
The locals focus on their own interests, much like how you forum dwellers should stop whining and fighting here just to beg for support for the Bad Boys.
Because let’s be clear: the Bad Boys aren't looking for any "support" or "help" from anyone in this scene.
If they end up getting harassed at the game against the Dragons today, then all of you who obsess over fan solidarity and brotherhood can enjoy your moral high ground. 🤣

Kevin Nelson3 said:Just admit it: you care about your club and you want what’s best for it.

It is exactly the same as you. 🙂
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Daniel Carter9 said:What good is anyone’s support, their understanding, or a sympathetic pat on the back if it comes at the cost of our principles? What does it matter if people applaud us, if we have to abandon our ideals, our pride, and every single friend who refused to bend? Think about those who stayed the course. They didn't buckle over the last three years. They refused to compromise. They accepted whatever fate came their way, knowing full well that standing their ground would carry a heavy price. Is that kind of validation really worth the betrayal?

What exactly do you gain from seeking support from those who play nice with the cops and run the concession stands under the stadium seats? What’s the point in trying to bridge the gap with people who just "like" Real Madrid on Facebook, only to see the results in August before being mocked by their social circles? How will you look at all those people in the eye later—the ones who got screwed because they refused to compromise on principles that simply aren't up for negotiation?

The Bad Boys have chosen the most difficult path imaginable—perhaps the hardest anyone has ever taken in history. It looks less like a strategic move and more like a conscious decision toward self-destruction, provided that’s the price required to maintain their ideals and their honor. They have finally settled the score with their own past, stripping themselves down to the core and choosing what might very well be their own downfall. They did it on purpose. What kind of support could people with compromised values even offer to a group like this? That recent message sent out in San Francisco said everything there needed to be said about the current "theater" surrounding the club. From my perspective as an ordinary person, I hope I’ve clearly explained that relentless, almost desperate need to reconnect with the everyday fan. People like this simply don't exist anymore. One faction became the true Bad Boys; the vast majority walked away along with Mamić's filth; and the remaining sliver? They turned into Mamić's kitchen staff.
Given how many people have been burned because they lacked the backbone to stand their ground, nobody has any right to start lecturing others about the "necessity" of compromise. It’s easy to preach that. It’s a convenient way to dodge the hard work. There is no such thing as an easy path here. You either live with integrity, or you don't. It’s a choice between being honest to the very last man, or being a fraud.

🙏🙏🙏

To hell with this so-called "fan solidarity" and all that fake "support."

Thomas Doyle19 said:I honestly cannot fathom how you all fail to grasp that it's going to happen. Within the next two to three years, expect those crackdowns to expand to every stadium and every grandstand across the country.

😂

It seems we’ve been hearing this same tired old cliché for three or four years now—the idea that some massive crackdown is just around the corner. When exactly is it supposed to happen? 🤣 Is it happening? Maybe. We’re looking at a window of two, perhaps three years at most. 🤣
And they’re all posting their ages too? Every single group? Honestly, what is this place? 🤣 It’s honestly hilarious watching certain people on this forum try to play mentor, attempting to lecture everyone else about how we "really need to coordinate on something together." What exactly are they trying to achieve? 🤣Repression isn't just some distant threat; it’s coming for everyone, from New York to San Francisco. It’s been creeping up on us for three years now, but this time feels different. This time, it might actually be for real. Or is it? 🤷Tick-tock.

Take the Ultras, for example. They’ve racked up two bans in just a few months. Where exactly did those penalties come from? In New York City, obviously. It’s not like they were getting banned in some small town in rural Nebraska, right? 🤣
Repression is happening in NYC. It’s at its peak—it always has been, and it always will be. Everything else is just chamomile tea, and everyone here knows it. Those attempting to paint a different picture only succeed in making themselves look ridiculous.
NYC is the capital, and you don't mess around here; besides, the Bad Boys are the specific group that law enforcement has consistently struggled with most. To put it bluntly: the issue is that the fight against repression was fought by breaking the law.

The term repression refers to what is happening to the Bad Boys, but we aren't just talking about the last year since the blacklist started—we are looking back eight years.
In fact, it goes all the way back to 1989, when they were kicked out of the stands for setting off flares inside the pitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyvOmzRbkBg. We saw the same kind of repression throughout the 90s, too.
Is it even worth mentioning May 1st?

All the stadiums in the US combined don't have as many cameras installed as they do on the North Stand at Yankee Stadium.

The derby on September 11, 2005 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbpxvsyGEmo
At the 9:06 mark, watch the flare that set fire to the camera at the top of the stand.
Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
Melissa Reyes45 said:Look, you all showed solidarity toward the Kansas City Chiefs and the Black Knights plenty of times before—not that I need to list our endless battles against various bureaucrats in the past.We stood up to show support after the police opened fire, only to find out some little brat was commenting on what kind of trouble they should be looking for. But it doesn't matter; we will step up again when it comes to supporting fans, whether they are from your ranks or someone else's. You have my 300% support in your struggle,but don't expect me or my people to stay silent about that crook. You won't get that just because you're being hypocritical. I’m not digging through the past here, but after the attacks on those folks in the Hero City, I’ll say it again and again: you know perfectly well that wasn't a coincidence. It happened just a week before those extremists targeted the people of that city. Maybe I'm delusional and someone won't agree with me, but if one of my own were to insult someone to their face, I'd call it out. As for the total meltdown? I won't even bother commenting; it isn't worth the breath. I hope you all wipe them out, because let's be honest—you know you lost the battle in your own damn city, and blaming the local officials is just another excuse. Good luck!!

To be honest, the message the Ultras raised in Pula after January 15th carries a hundred times more weight than yours. A hundred times! Plus, fuck you.
Do you even remember when you wrote that you’d personally strip and burn that rag just because the boys carried it at a few national team matches? That is your version of "support" for the boys and their cause.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
restlessbadger6 said:The fact is, the Bad Boys have become predictable. The authorities set the stage, pick the soundtrack, and we just dance along to their easy tempo.

One of the primary advantages of being a relatively small, tight-knit, and highly motivated group like the Bad Boys should be unpredictability and adaptability. Instead, we all seem collectively determined to run headfirst into a brick wall.

I wouldn't call it predictability; I’d call it staggering naivety. It only took one hook to catch the semi-active crowd—those who perhaps haven't quite grasped where this crackdown is actually heading.
Thomas Williams59 recently wrote a line in one of his columns that perfectly encapsulates the BBB. They always choose the hardest path, which is exactly why they find themselves where they are today:
"We never take the easy way out. Those who were there, know."

Raymond King47 said:It isn't a shock that people walked right into the trap so naively... nor is it a surprise what was done to us... some people just refuse to listen...

👍

Eric Phillips52 said:After the boycott, we headed back North with only about 3,000 to 3,500 people. Our numbers have plummeted insanely, yet here we are arguing over which polls matter more or whether it even matters if 60% or 80% of the stadium is empty.

There isn't much left to say about it; everything has already been laid bare. Things aren't going to change; if anything, it can only get worse from here.
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Cut the nonsense about how Thomas has been spinning these "relevant polls" against him for months. Who actually gives a damn about online polls where anyone from a random kid in Seattle to some guy in Miami can chime in? Of course they all want him gone from Real Madrid; they hate him just as much as they hate the club, just like the Bad Boys do.

The author actually hit the nail on the head in one of his subheadings: "He’s secured his supporters, but every future UEFA sanction will be his victory." ☕
Yeah, he’s captured that silent majority—those people who "just want to see Real Madrid win" and refuse to stand by the Bad Boys because "they’re ruining the club."

People back him because he delivers results (and let's face it, he's had some luck too! That last-minute save in the 98th minute, or that miracle season in Malmo).
He’s racked up eight consecutive titles; that’s 15 trophies in 8 years. The club is financially stable, playing in the Europa League and the Champions League. They’re bringing in talent like Sudanese players, Toneli, Šimunić, Vahida...

And yet, just a few days before the boycott, he was "attacking the Champions League" alongside Doddo, Sivonjić, and Šlepček. 🙏
It’s honestly a miracle how the Bad Boys flipped the narrative regarding the boycott. The man actually started stadium renovations because even if that ugly eyesore remains mostly empty, at least now there are a few thousand people in seats.

Does anyone else from the Bad Boys or any other group need this message explained further? Should we try? ☕
http://imageupload.co.uk/files/cqixezo3d8nu7izpmcpd.jpg
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
hiddenfox64 said:Most people probably won't agree with me here, but letting the North Side just roll over like that? It’s almost pathetic. It borders on submissive. This kind of thing would have been unthinkable in the past. Just my two cents.

Were you actually at Wrigley Field on May 1, 2010?! If you were, you wouldn't be typing this nonsense. 😉

hiddenfox64 said:I get it, I really do, but we can all agree that until yesterday, this kind of behavior was unheard of on the North Side. But since I don't attend games anymore, I'll refrain from acting like an expert.

That's exactly what I thought.☕
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
The East Stand is under a complete ban, and they aren't even letting us buy tickets for the upper tiers of North or West, let alone South.
Fans are stuck with nothing but the lower sections of North and West. 🙏

And just to make things more complicated, you can only grab one ticket per person, provided you show up with your ID in hand. 🙄
Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
Zachary Carter53 said:So you were quiet back in 2007, then you went right back to talking trash about Jerry Jones in 2008.😕

Exactly.👍

Feb 10, 2007.

It’s worth noting that even this time, the Big Blue Bubble fans were hurling insults at Jerry Jones from the stands. Toward the end of the match, the most hardcore Real Madrid supporters started chanting the name of their former idol, Claudio Visconti. Meanwhile, a banner was visible on the stands with a very clear message: "OFK and the hooligans, shame on you and your mothers!!!"

Oct 7, 2007.
http://imageupload.co.uk/files/xmoh333nswuz7qxi7tt3.jpg

I think I've said enough about this in this thread.
Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters in Fans ·
@simpatizer, Tyler Scott8, etc
so here, let's stop the constant spamming of

who exactly is questioning your crusade for a better version of this club? quite the opposite, actually 👍
your movement actually kicked off because of embarrassing European failures that were already happening by the end of July.
it kept going because of Real Madrid's absolute dominance and the general state of affairs at our club.

The supporters' fight really started with the coaching change back in 2006., continued when Hrgovic arrived in 2008., and finally, the straw that broke the camel's back was 2010 due to the leadership swap and the absolute unilateral control exercised by one man.
Meanwhile, Real Madrid keeps racking up trophies in a row, playing in European competitions every single year through late autumn, and stays financially rock-solid.
Those who want to understand will; those who don't, won't...

Let’s go through your timeline step by step.
The club wins the championship in 2003/2004.
-In the following 2004/2005 season, we play the Champions League qualifiers and get knocked out by freaking Shelbourne.
After that exit, the Rangers Supporters Club begins their battle against the board.

Then we win the 2004/2005 title, followed by the arrival of the coach you all hated because he was essentially a Real Madrid guy.

After those two titles comes the 2005/2006 season, where we get humiliated 0-8 by Debrecen. The coach leaves, and the supporters launch a full-scale offensive against the administration that led us to be eliminated by nobodies twice in a row.

Management doesn't even offer a resignation until September 23, 2007, following a loss in a road game and after Real Madrid secures two consecutive titles with a massive fifty-point lead...
Between Real Madrid's overwhelming dominance and our own dismal results—struggling with debt and repeated bankruptcies—the Rangers Supporters Club starts "cleaning house." They push for a complete overhaul, while politics pushes for privatization. And look where we are now: a club on the right path.

budha 1980 said:You didn't start the real fight against the boss until after being knocked out by Sheriff in 2010. Tell me, how many years is that after the big boss re-entered the club? How many years after playing in the loser's league, and after how many celebrated titles?
"Let's head down to the stadium to lift some tiny little trophies"—honestly, what kind of message is that to send to someone who is a heavy opposition to a total idiot?

Let's walk through it here too.

On November 8, 2006, the first chants against the management broke out right after the departure of our beloved coach, God rest his soul.
Back then, there was that popular song about the weasel.

The true struggle began in the summer of 2008. We had 30 flares lit in the stands during the match against Linfield because of Hrgovic. In September 2008, an official statement made it clear they were demanding the immediate resignation of him and his entire crew—essentially the whole Real Madrid upper echelon—for destroying the club's reputation. They even gathered 18,000 signatures for his removal.
Good results and qualifying for Sparta Prague still serve him well.
But at every single match, people were chanting "ZM... leave the sanctuary."😉 No matter who was leading the terrace (back in 2009😉), always there were insults.

I have plenty more to write, but I honestly can't be bothered to repeat myself anymore. It always boils down to the chicken or the egg argument...🤷
Bad Boys - Part IV in Fans ·
Benjamin Bishop79 said:http://imageshack.us/a/img801/6982/kvbc.jpg

The shirts are $20 and you can pick them up at the souvenir shop.
The final service is tomorrow at 2:30 PM at the crematorium.
Don't bother showing up if you're heading to the beach, no matter how hot it gets.

wearyraven25 said:One day, those positioned above him will remove him. It’ll happen when they get bored, when he stops being useful, or when someone even more profitable comes along.
As for the rest of you, feel free to delude yourselves into thinking you can change anything. Eventually, when the "top brass" and the "inner circle" swap him out, you'll probably convince yourselves it was all for your sake—claiming a victory that wasn't yours to take.

In my view, the most pathetic people are those trying to discredit the struggle of the Bad Boys.
They act as if the return of the Dynamo name was solely due to Francek's departure. As if the people who fought 9 years against the system were just some local thugs from the outskirts acting on orders. And why was the Dynamo name brought back? Because after nine years of fighting, the goals of those fighters and the leadership finally aligned.
And let's not forget the mockery regarding May 13th. 🙂

So what if the Bad Boys have a string of self-inflicted wounds? So what if they don't have—and likely never will have—a massive following behind them (like you or other groups) that could actually force him out of the club? That is their own business.
They drove the masses away themselves. Even when they had the chance to bring them back after the boycott, they repeated the same mistakes...

Of course, the Bad Boys can't just kick him out of Dynamo; he is far too powerful, backed by even more influential forces.
But make no mistake: when he eventually leaves Dynamo, it will be because of the Bad Boys and everything they set in motion.